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Eightball, your contention is a possibility, but you can't prove it. Other possibilities exist: JS was delusional, JS had bi-polarism (which is at times characterized by hyper-sexuality), JS was a prophet.
My point here is this: this claim of Smith's in 1832 was a mainstream belief, nothing unusual at all. If he had said this will happen in "April 1862 in the great and spacious bay known as Charleston," then we should all pay closer attention I would admit.
Eightball, your contention is a possibility, but you can't prove it. Other possibilities exist: JS was delusional, JS had bi-polarism (which is at times characterized by hyper-sexuality), JS was a prophet.
My point here is this: this claim of Smith's in 1832 was a mainstream belief, nothing unusual at all. If he had said this will happen in "April 1862 in the great and spacious bay known as Charleston," then we should all pay closer attention I would admit.
Beg to differ, Starkey........on one point of your post...........
Joseph Smith meets the total biblical criteria of a "false prophet".
I have been remiss.
I have failed in my obligation to regularly bump this thread.
Belated bumpage!
I have a question for yu
Why are you bumping this thread? Are you a mormon?
So far, it seems that Truthspeaker is doing fine in mainstreaming Mormonism with his posts. I no longer see them as a bunch of cookie cutters and kids in white shirts and dress slacks riding around on bikes trying to spread the faith.
Now I see them as another group of crazy Christians!! Right up there between the Baptists and the Catholics.
Stop denouncing alcohol, Mormons!!
Some of us need a hard drink every now and then
Eightball, your contention is a possibility, but you can't prove it. Other possibilities exist: JS was delusional, JS had bi-polarism (which is at times characterized by hyper-sexuality), JS was a prophet.
My point here is this: this claim of Smith's in 1832 was a mainstream belief, nothing unusual at all. If he had said this will happen in "April 1862 in the great and spacious bay known as Charleston," then we should all pay closer attention I would admit.
Ok so then we shouldn't pay much attention to prophecies in the Bible because they don't contain specific dates? this is what you are telling us to do!
Sorry, but I don't buy it. None of the Bible prophecies are narrowed down the way you would like them to be by month and year. So I'm going to be a watchful learner and not dismiss the prophecies like a foolish virgin.
Eightball, your contention is a possibility, but you can't prove it. Other possibilities exist: JS was delusional, JS had bi-polarism (which is at times characterized by hyper-sexuality), JS was a prophet.
My point here is this: this claim of Smith's in 1832 was a mainstream belief, nothing unusual at all. If he had said this will happen in "April 1862 in the great and spacious bay known as Charleston," then we should all pay closer attention I would admit.
Ok so then we shouldn't pay much attention to prophecies in the Bible because they don't contain specific dates? this is what you are telling us to do!
Sorry, but I don't buy it. None of the Bible prophecies are narrowed down the way you would like them to be by month and year. So I'm going to be a watchful learner and not dismiss the prophecies like a foolish virgin.
Nobody carries what you think about this, truthspeaker. You want to defend the prophecy, but you refuse to do so in its historical context, something we are able to do far more clearly in this day and age. Your interp is one of several possibilities, and does not fit the most logical one.
All hail Xenu! ...oh forgot, this isn't the Scientology thread, can't tell the difference.
Keep in mind, Glenn Beck is a mormon. Nuff said.
Yay Glenn Beck!
Keep in mind, Glenn Beck is a mormon. Nuff said.
I'll second that thought!
Keep in mind, Glenn Beck is a mormon. Nuff said.
Keep in mind, Glenn Beck is a mormon. Nuff said.
And you're a moron...
So close...
Thanks, Truth, for ignoring my poor spirit on this one. I believe you are wrong because of your faith leaning, not because you less than honest from whence you reason.
I will point out that many thought it would begin in 1832 or the next year, and almost everyone believed it would be the clowns from South Kackalacky that would start it.
My contention is this: JS can claim no exclusivity to his prediction.
Keep in mind, Glenn Beck is a mormon. Nuff said.
I'll second that thought!
The mormons can claim him. He represents well.
Keep in mind, Glenn Beck is a mormon. Nuff said.
And you're a moron...
So close...
Wow, thats a good one! Wow, seriously, I bow down to your superior intellect. This is an example of how bright you really are. Seriously. Wow.
Thanks, Truth, for ignoring my poor spirit on this one. I believe you are wrong because of your faith leaning, not because you less than honest from whence you reason.
I will point out that many thought it would begin in 1832 or the next year, and almost everyone believed it would be the clowns from South Kackalacky that would start it.
My contention is this: JS can claim no exclusivity to his prediction.
Which, of course, was never claimed until after the prophecy was fulfilled in exactness.
Funny how the story changes from "No way it will happen" to "Everyone knew it would happen" when it actually does.
I'll second that thought!
The mormons can claim him. He represents well.
He certainly does. He is a good and honorable man. And he is a living testimony to the power of Christ bringing Redemption to the Soul.
