The two ends of the political spectrum are killing us

[cnm]

Really, you are held prisoners of an outdated document and a political philosophy that has led to your current dysfunction.

The strictures and expressions of your constitutional setup combined with the philosophy of extreme individual freedom has left you stalled, unable to progress towards better life outcomes for your citizens no matter how much you may desire it. Especially when keeping America's global edge is considered more important than domestic satisfaction by people wanting change.

Intentionally preventing majority rule is a ludicrous policy for a supposed democratic republic. It's not about the extremes, it's about the fact that the middle is disenfranchised, by design. And because it's by design you won't be able to change it while chained to the constitution.

 

[Mac1958]

The other side is just as bad, if you do not hate Trump with all of your being you are a MAGA head.

Hell, just this week I was accused of being a screaming commie and a Trump lover in the same thread.

Yeah, I have to admit that's one of my top two or three moments here - when both ends get simultaneously triggered, demonstrating how similar they can be.

 

[BlackSand]

You're a well rounded reasonable poster here Black one , so lemme lay it out and follow with your take on it

Patriots and Jingoists exist in two separate places in the dictonary

But most peeps can't describe the dif.......~S~

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Thanks ... And it's really funny.

If they have the ability to understand it, unfold it, and apply it ... In context and correctly ...
Then you're just talking to someone who already knows how you are trying to apply the word ...
And in context to the condition you are speaking about.

I mean shit ... You could just say the word ... And if someone actually understands the word and the difference ...
The word is all that needs to be said ... Because they are already smart enough to know where it is headed.

You could damn near have the whole conversation with the single word ...

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[Curried Goats]

Yeah, I have to admit that's one of my top two or three moments here - when both ends get simultaneously triggered, demonstrating how similar they can be.

So your purpose was to trigger? Aren't you also proving how similar you are?

 

[OldFlame]

When parents wanting the right to not have porn in grade school is ridiculed, I'm not sure what right wing extremism is supposed to be? Same goes for voter ID. How is it radical? I'm done thinking republicans are the good guys, but they hardly seem extreme. Is wanting your daughter to play sports against other girls crazy or authoritarian?

You'll notice that the op never addressed my questions or my post.

 

[OldFlame]

Part of Trumpism has clearly been the emboldening of ugly White Nationalism. No doubt. Trying to look for a silver lining, at least we know.

But it didn't happen in a vacuum. It's a response. A ridiculous, ignorant, overcompensation of a response, but a response nonetheless.

That's a bullshit lie, straight up.

 

[OldFlame]

Can't argue, and I listed off several examples in the OP. The Left has always frustrated me in the way that it naturally divides the world into "oppressors" and "the oppressed", although in fairness MAGA world has doing its own version of that for last eight years or so.

So again, going back to the OP, the Left overcompensates by both pushing too hard for that particular victim group and at the same time lowering standards and expectations for that group. Which, again, I'm now seeing MAGA world do with its elected leaders.

I've said many times here that the Left's tactics on the cultural issues played a VERY large role in Trump's win and many other political events since. The Left absolutely refuses to admit that. I guess they can't admit it, because PC and Identity Politics are at their very core now.

So, as I've also said many times, the two ends of the spectrum can be remarkably similar in their behaviors. Hence, this thread.

What's the 'maga world' version of the same thing?

 

[Mac1958]

That's a bullshit lie, straight up.

So you don't understand the difference between a statement of opinion (which is what that is) and a statement of fact.

Not my problem.

 

[Mac1958]

What's the 'maga world' version of the same thing?

You're all victims, particularly your leader, and it's all a conspiracy.

 

[OldFlame]

You're all victims, particularly your leader, and it's all a conspiracy.

Who's "you're"?

 

[Mac1958]

Who's "you're"?

MAGA world. If you're not in MAGA world, that doesn't include you.

 

[OldFlame]

MAGA world. If you're not in MAGA world, that doesn't include you.

Define 'Maga world', what does it mean, what does it describe? What does someone that you consider 'maga' want from government?

 

[Mac1958]

Define 'Maga world', what does it mean, what does it describe? What does someone that you consider 'maga' want from government?

Why? You know what I'm talking about. I'm not going to waste the bandwidth.

 

[BlueGin]

I am sure you view me that way.

From you it is a compliment.

Libertarians dislike fraud in the government ,which you support fully.

The mere fact that you commit “fraud” by claiming to be Libertarian says you are trying to fool people.

Hense. A liar. And not “ moderate”.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Libertarians dislike fraud in the government ,which you support fully.

 

[BlackSand]

So your purpose was to trigger? Aren't you also proving how similar you are?

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Not at all ... He was trying to demonstrate his prowess ...
In attempts to establish a non-existent "high-ground" ... Separate and in his mind "better" ...

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[BlueGin]

Why are you asking me for a link ? Do Libertarians support the rights of the incarcerated or not?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why are you asking me for a link ? Do Libertarians support the rights of the incarcerated or not?

I am asking for a link to me supporting fraud in the government.

I will be happy to wait while you look for one.

 

[BlueGin]

I am asking for a link to me supporting fraud in the government.

I will be happy to wait while you look for one.

You spend the majority of your time arguing for the government. And then pretend you aren’t a partisan.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You spend the majority of your time arguing for the government.