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Yeah, I think all we can do is optimize the guardrails, since we know that politicians, politicos and pundits will remain on the edges of those guardrails. At least minimize their worst impulses.Multi-rep districts would solve the gerrymandering problem better than "Bipartisan" (just two?) commissions.
The biggest dysfunction, in my view, is that we're trying to use government to shape society - government has become the coach rather than the referee. Instead of government that keeps the peace and protects our freedom to live as we want, we have government that tries to push and prod people toward someone's vision of the "good life". Naturally, everyone wants to control that process, and/or is terrified that someone they don't trust will control it.
Eh?Yeah, I think all we can do is optimize the guardrails, since we know that politicians, politicos and pundits will remain on the edges of those guardrails. At least minimize their worst impulses.
Well, we need to change the system under which these people operate. We already know, just by the way they are, that they'll go as far as they can within any system. So we've tossed around ideas like ranked choice voting, term limits, bipartisan redistricting, etc., etc., in order to minimize their bullshittery.
It's not just the Web. We would be where we are without the Web. The Web is an amplifier of something that is already there.It preys on the worst impulses of many. It enables the best of the best, and the worst of the worst.
It feels like a race: Will we be able to constructively adapt to it, before it destroys us.
Well, this goes back to my OP. Look at all the cultural issues that you and I agree have been bad ideas from the Left. From the Left's perspective, those tactics have been a response to actions and behaviors it sees from the Right. And yes, the Right has had things to answer for. So the Left raised the stakes, intensified the game.Anyway, Mac, let's keep arguing with each other, and invite the rational people from each of our sides to join in. And ignore the ones who just want to exhibit their personality disorders online.
There is little difference between the two criminal gangs and the differences promoted by the state run media are all for show to divide Americans.Not at all gipper….there’s plenty to criticize about Trump, mostly in the way his ego drives him. But, objectively he did a better job as POTUS than Biden by leaps and bounds.
We can’t help that dems are emotion driven, and are triggered by the slightest things.
Well ... one problem is that the issues that really divide us -- "culture war" issues -- don't seem to be amenable to an "innovate" approach. And they don't seem to be the kind of issues where you can split the difference. And even when they were, from my side's point of view, the Left just keeps on pushing.
An example is the gay question. Up until not too long ago, it was illegal. Then, over a few decades, we reached a kind of compromise, coming from the libertarian strain within conservatism.
The basic idea was that the government had no right to tell two consenting adults what they could and couldn't do in the bedroom. I think most people on my side were happy with that. In daily life, it meant accepting that, in a government job, you couldn't be fired because you were gay. In the military, it meant "Don't ask, don't tell".
But ... that wasn't enough. Gay marriage was demanded. I thought we had a pretty good compromise in the concept of a "Civic Partnership", which would give gay couples the legal advantages of married couples with respect to inheritance, vistation rights in hospital, etc.
But that wasn't enough. Then on we wen to putting people out of business, or in prison, if they wouldn't bake a wedding cake for a gay marriage. And in the schools, positive pro-homosexual propaganda for kids.
So, although the idea of 'getting along with each other', 'live and let live', etc. sounds good -- I'm afraid my side doesn't believe that that's what your side really wants. Sort of like Hitler's claim, "This is my last territorial demand in Europe". Uh huh.
Do you not remember the withering opposition from dems and reps, refusing to work with him on ANYTHING?That is such a low bar it should tell you something that it is the bar that you have to use
Your dislike of D voters is proof your stuck. You need to focus your attention on the oligarchy that controls everything, including the two crime families.
Thank you for the kind compliment. The only problem with my term-paper-long posts is that almost no one reads them!
None of this means anything. I have no idea what you stand for.Well, this goes back to my OP. Look at all the cultural issues that you and I agree have been bad ideas from the Left. From the Left's perspective, those tactics have been a response to actions and behaviors it sees from the Right. And yes, the Right has had things to answer for. So the Left raised the stakes, intensified the game.
In response, the Right has done exactly the same thing. From its perspective, its tactics are a response to what the Left has been doing. The election of Trump in 2016 is the shining example of that. He's the bull in the china shop the Right wanted to express their anger and frustration over the direction in which the country was going.
So as the two ends (not "sides", but "ends") of the spectrum are pulling further and further apart from the other, they are taking the rest of the country along with them. We're seeing an abject breakdown in the things that I personally think are key to maintaining America's global edge: Communication, collaboration, and innovation.
This is a classic self-inflicted wound, and neither end appears to care.
Do you not remember the withering opposition from dems and reps, refusing to work with him on ANYTHING?
Of which neither you are Mac are.Those are not the two ends in this country. The liberty minded people are closer to the middle in this country.
Of which neither you are Mac are.
You are the “ extremist ”If the moderates would pay attention during the primaries we could keep the extremists from being our only choices in the general election
You are the “ extremist ”
Do you? So far all I've seen is you wishing politics operated differently, but to what end? What policies do you actually hope to come out of it? Or do you seriously think that in and of itself will fix political discourse? And how do you there? Or is this cosplay hour with Mac1958?I know.
For these poor souls, if you're not an obedient Trumpster, you're a screaming commie.
That's the binary thinking to which they've been reduced.
