The two ends of the political spectrum are killing us

[Independent thinker]

Political overcompensation is the new Great American Pastime.

A few years ago, some of us were warning the Left: You're going too far with Political Correctness and Identity Politics. You're going too far screaming RACIST at every last fucking thing that moves. You're going too far lowering standards and expectations for people based solely on their skin color. You're going too far in normalizing sexual disorders such as gender dysphoria. You're going too far in putting your agenda in schools. You're going too far in disallowing conservative voices on college campuses. And most of all, you're going too far in attacking, intimidating and penalizing people in everyday life for saying things you don't like.

There's going to be pushback, we said. You're overcompensating, we said. This stuff is not right, we said. I only said that a few thousand times here, to be met with attacks from the Left. (By the way, a zillion examples of that available upon request via the search function)

So now we see the pushback, with this Neanderthal, middle school bully-approach to the culture from the Right. This is the pushback we warned about -- although, admittedly, even worse than I imagined. And this sucker has legs, just like your weaponized PC and Identity Politics did. They're making laws and attacking and intimidating. Gee, what a coincidence. What Deja Vu we're seeing, huh? Go figure!

And most amazing of all, this pushback included the election of a petulant child, an obvious con man, an orange buffoon, in 2016, and all the fucking unbelievable madness that has followed.

No doubt there will be pushback to this, too. Back and forth. Back and forth. More and more damage.

Ideological politics poisons everything it touches. Now it's putting this country at risk of falling apart. Great job, gang. You're BOTH so much like those you hate, and you just won't stop.

Young Republicans Are Begging Party Elders To Stop Saying 'Woke'

The next generation of conservatives support their party's culture wars. But they hate the way they describe them

www.rollingstone.com

Translation: Calling others woke and attacking woke is working.

 

[OldFlame]

Why? You know what I'm talking about. I'm not going to waste the bandwidth.

No, I don't, you guys throw that term around as a pejorative, an insult, but you won't define what it actually means. What does 'maga' personify, what does someone you slap that label on believe in politically, what kind of government do they want, what do they want to force on others using government power? Do you really know, or do you just use it to use it?

 

[BlueGin]

Do you as a “Libertarian” support the rights of Americans …including the incarcerated?

 

[gipper]

That IS the D.

Right now, deep state = democrat and democrat = deep state

If you take out the Dems you take out 2/3 of the deep state.

Agreed, but the Rs are no different. Did you somehow fail to see who Trump surrounded himself with when he was potus? Did you fail to see all the neocon deep state actors in W’s administration?

Do you fail to see the enormous support of Biden’s proxy war by nearly all Rs in congress. Thus fully supporting deep state neocons and the MIC?

 

[Mac1958]

No, I don't, you guys throw that term around as a pejorative, an insult, but you won't define what it actually means. What does 'maga' personify, what does someone you slap that label on believe in politically, what kind of government do they want, what do they want to force on others using government power? Do you really know, or do you just use it to use it?

My goodness, this really bothers you. I get called "evil" and "demonic" by Trumpsters, and I don't care. They're just Trumpsters.

Let's try this: If you think the 2020 election was rigged, if you enjoy and believe Trump's speeches and rallies, and/or if you like seeing pickup trucks with massive tires and Trump flags, you're part of MAGA world.

That's my description. Mac's personal description. If you don't like it, too bad. You don't have to.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

People here just need to realize that whenever Mac attempts his basic ruse, the "middle" is always crafted to be consistent with the prevailing DNC orthodoxy.

In 2016, that middle was represented by Hillary, so he went after "regressives" to the left of her. Now that the DNC has shifted so far left, the imaginary middle he is trying to create has shifted left as well.

Now, and as always, he offers just two choices -- display complete fealty to the DNC talking points or he will call you names. His current pet name is now "Trumpster"

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Do you as a “Libertarian” support the rights of Americans …including the incarcerated?

Of course I do. I have said that a dozen times in the discussion about the Jan 6th tapes over the last few days.

I just do not accept what Tucker says as the gospel like you do. And that pisses you off to no end.

 

[OldFlame]

My goodness, this really bothers you. I get called "evil" and "demonic" by Trumpsters, and I don't care. They're just Trumpsters.

Let's try this: If you think the 2020 election was rigged, if you enjoy and believe Trump's speeches and rallies, and/or if you like seeing pickup trucks with massive tires and Trump flags, you're part of MAGA world.

That's my description. Mac's personal description. If you don't like it, too bad. You don't have to.

So that's what you define as a threat to democracy? Seriously? Highly amusing, thanks for revealing that you basically have nothing when you refer to someone as 'maga', it's just an insult to you, nothing more. You can't even personify what it means outside of trump rallies, flags, and trucks. You clearly need to get out more.

 

[Mac1958]

Man, I'm up in some heads here.

 

[OldFlame]

Of course I do. I have said that a dozen times in the discussion about the Jan 6th tapes over the last few days.

I just do not accept what Tucker says as the gospel like you do. And that pisses you off to no end.

Tucker said nothing, he just showed the footage. And now here's where you claim it was doctored so you can preserve your own confirmation bias. You're never wrong.

 

[Mac1958]

So that's what you define as a threat to democracy? Seriously? Highly amusing, thanks for revealing that you basically have nothing when you refer to someone as 'maga', it's just an insult to you, nothing more. You can't even personify what it means outside of trump rallies, flags, and trucks. You clearly need to get out more.

This is always fascinating. You just pretend that I've called you a threat to democracy. But I didn't.

You folks have been conditioned to just create fantasies, stories and conspiracies on the fly.

This is exactly why I told you I didn't want to waste the bandwidth. I know how you folks are. In MAGA world.

 

[OldFlame]

Man, I'm up in some heads here.

Clearly you can't even defend your position, apparently trump rallies, flags, and big trucks have gotten to you.

 

[OldFlame]

This is always fascinating. You just pretend that I've called you a threat to democracy. But I didn't.

You folks have been conditioned to just create fantasies, stories and conspiracies on the fly.

This is exactly why I told you I didn't want to waste the bandwidth. I know how you folks are. In MAGA world.

You use the term with such confidence, but now you've revealed that you can't even define what it is. Talk about conditioning, fantasies, and conspiracies.

Why don't you go back and answer my first post in this thread, which was a direct quote of your op?

 

[Mac1958]

You use the term with such confidence, but now you've revealed that you can't even define what it is. Talk about conditioning, fantasies, and conspiracies.

Why don't you go back and answer my first post in this thread, which was a direct quote of your op?

Because I don't care enough about your opinion of me to bother.

This is now getting creepy.

 

[OldFlame]

Because I don't care enough about your opinion of me to bother.

This is now getting creepy.

Aw, going to pull out some more bullshit because you can't answer my questions.

Here's my original post that you avoided.

So you listed some of the extremes of the left, you left out open border policies and mass illegal immigration, the fact that all of their policies cause major debt and that their spending causes major inflation. You described the 'pushback' to the crazy ideology of the left as 'right extremism', so pushing back on these idiots on the left makes one a right extremist?

How about listing what the extreme right is trying to push on everyone via government fiat or even via culture intimidation? I'll start if for you, I'm sure your number one issue will be the supreme court sending abortion back to the states (even though that is constitutionally correct), and SC is hardly 'extreme right'. What else do you have?

 

[BlueGin]

Of course I do. I have said that a dozen times in the discussion about the Jan 6th tapes over the last few days.

I just do not accept what Tucker says as the gospel like you do. And that pisses you off to no end.

When? Before or after you refuse to even look at their court transcripts?

Why are you throwing Tucker into the conversation? Mr “ Moderate”?

 

[Mac1958]

Aw, going to pull out some more bullshit because you can't answer my questions.

Here's my original post that you avoided.

So you listed some of the extremes of the left, you left out open border policies and mass illegal immigration, the fact that all of their policies cause major debt and that their spending causes major inflation. You described the 'pushback' to the crazy ideology of the left as 'right extremism', so pushing back on these idiots on the left makes one a right extremist?

How about listing what the extreme right is trying to push on everyone via government fiat or even via culture intimidation? I'll start if for you, I'm sure your number one issue will be the supreme court sending abortion back to the states (even though that is constitutionally correct), and SC is hardly 'extreme right'. What else do you have?

I don't agree with your opinions on the Left and the economy. My 22+ years in the industry tell me something different. Yes, I put more blame on the Left for the border issue.

You don't understand my opposition to Trumpism, and given your behavior so far, I'm not inclined to get into it again. I already know what to expect, and that would be one boring conversation for me.

I think someone like you would be better off dealing with a hardcore left winger, so that the two of you can trade lies and personal insults.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

When? Before or after you refuse to even look at their court transcripts?

I looked at the court transcripts, I just did not watch your videos, which always pisses you off.

 

[BlueGin]

I looked at the court transcripts, I just did not watch your videos, which always pisses you off.

why would I care if you watch them or not? It’s just fun watching you shit yourself because I watched them.

So then since you have read them I would like to hear your opinion on them.

 

[BrokeLoser]

There's going to be pushback, we said. You're overcompensating, we said. This stuff is not right, we said. I only said that a few thousand times here, to be met with attacks from the Left. (By the way, a zillion examples of that available upon request via the search function)

So now we see the pushback, with this Neanderthal, middle school bully-approach to the culture from the Right. This is the pushback we warned about -- although, admittedly, even worse than I imagined. And this sucker has legs, just like your weaponized PC and Identity Politics did. They're making laws and attacking and intimidating. Gee, what a coincidence. What Deja Vu we're seeing, huh? Go figure!

And most amazing of all, this pushback included the election of a petulant child, an obvious con man, an orange buffoon, in 2016, and all the fucking unbelievable madness that has followed.

Translation:
”We filthy twisted fucks hate that good real core Americans have found their nutsacks and become retailitory…we liked it much better when us disgusting unAmerican subhumans were unimpeded and running amok morphing America into the weird, socialist third world foreign shithole we desire. All conservatives have to do is stop being retailitory, stop trying to defend their nation and we will all get along just fine.”