The two main reasons to support Trump:

[bripat9643]

That isn't the test of whether immigrant labor drives down wages.

OK so that's a fail on your part.
There is no evidence employers pay less than legal wages.
And no evidence illegals drive down wages either.

Spare us your economic idiocy. The laws of supply and demand say that if the supply of labor increases, then price will go down.

You fail.

Except there is no evidence of such a thing. Post it or STFU.
Oh wait. You never post anyting to back up what you say. You're like the JakeStarkey of USMB.

There's no evidence for the laws of supply and demand? Really?

Fail.
Once again you belly flop when confronted with a challenge to your preconceived notions.
OOps.
Illegal Immigrants Don't Lower Our Wages Or Take Our Jobs


Deflection/claims of bias coming in 3...2...1....

"Myriam Quispe-Agnoli, and Fernando Rios-Avila find that documented workers’ wages rise with increases in the share of undocumented workers in a worker’s county and employed by their employers."

Yeah, there's a couple of unbiased researchers - a couple of immigrant economists who think they proved the laws of supply and demand are invalid.

Sheesh, you'll swallow anything, won't you?

Here's the nut of their moronic argument:

Why? The law of comparative advantage says we get more productive when we have more trading partners, and the arrival of undocumented workers with limited English skills frees up low-skill American workers who can then specialize in tasks that require better English.
​

What does comparative advantage have to do with the labor supply inside one country? The answer is nothing. Comparative advantage is about trade between countries. English skills certainly aren't of any use in trading with foreign countries that don't speak English.

As for specializing in tasks that require better English, what makes anyone think there are such tasks? If a guy is qualified to dig ditches, how will his English skills find him a better job? He's not qualified to run heavy equipment or program computers. The only thing he's "freed up" for is the unemployment line.

 

[bripat9643]

Walls work better in non populated areas, so that's no argument against it. Hama and the PLO consumed vast amounts of resources to tunnel under the wall. Nevertheless, whenever they attempted to use them, the Israelis quickly located them and destroyed them. Furthermore, didn't you read the article I posted a link to about new tunnel detection technology?

The bottom line is that the wall has drastically reduced the incidence of suicide bombers in Israel.

The wall works.

Walls work better in non populated areas? What are you smoking?
Israel still experiences terrorist attacks and the Palis have used the tunnels for commerce at least as much as terror.
We can add Israel to things you know nothing about.

Yes, the work better in non populated areas. For one thing, that makes it harder to build tunnels since you can't hide the opening inside a building.

The claim that "Israel still experiences terrorist attacks" is meaningless. What kind of attacks, with Katyusha rockets? One kind it no longer experiences is from suicide bombers who simply walk across the border.

Walls work.

Suck on it.

Or they stab people. Or ram people with cars. Or.....
The wall did nothing to make Israel safer.

The only people they can stab or ram with their cars are other Palestinians on their side of the wall.

We can add Israel (again) to things you know nothng about.
Palestinian teens stab, kill Israeli in West Bank supermarket
And about a dozen more links to different incidents.

Note: this occurred in the West Bank - that is, it occurred on the other side of the wall.

 

[The Rabbi]

OK so that's a fail on your part.
There is no evidence employers pay less than legal wages.
And no evidence illegals drive down wages either.

Spare us your economic idiocy. The laws of supply and demand say that if the supply of labor increases, then price will go down.

You fail.

Except there is no evidence of such a thing. Post it or STFU.
Oh wait. You never post anyting to back up what you say. You're like the JakeStarkey of USMB.

There's no evidence for the laws of supply and demand? Really?

Fail.
Once again you belly flop when confronted with a challenge to your preconceived notions.
OOps.
Illegal Immigrants Don't Lower Our Wages Or Take Our Jobs


Deflection/claims of bias coming in 3...2...1....

"Myriam Quispe-Agnoli, and Fernando Rios-Avila find that documented workers’ wages rise with increases in the share of undocumented workers in a worker’s county and employed by their employers."

Yeah, there's a couple of unbiased researchers - a couple of economist who think they proved the laws of supply and demand are invalid.

Sheesh, you'll swallow anything, won't you?

Here's the nut of their moronic argument:

Why? The law of comparative advantage says we get more productive when we have more trading partners, and the arrival of undocumented workers with limited English skills frees up low-skill American workers who can then specialize in tasks that require better English.
​

What does comparative advantage have to do with the labor supply inside one country? The answer is nothing. Comparative advantage is about trade between countries.

As for specializing in tasks that require better English, what makes anyone think there are such tasks? If a guy is qualified to dig ditches, how will his English skills find him a better job? He's not qualified to run heavy equipment or program computers. The only thing he's "freed up" for is the unemployment line.

So what are you saying here? What evidence of bias do you find in the research?

 

[The Rabbi]

Walls work better in non populated areas? What are you smoking?
Israel still experiences terrorist attacks and the Palis have used the tunnels for commerce at least as much as terror.
We can add Israel to things you know nothing about.

Yes, the work better in non populated areas. For one thing, that makes it harder to build tunnels since you can't hide the opening inside a building.

The claim that "Israel still experiences terrorist attacks" is meaningless. What kind of attacks, with Katyusha rockets? One kind it no longer experiences is from suicide bombers who simply walk across the border.

Walls work.

Suck on it.

Or they stab people. Or ram people with cars. Or.....
The wall did nothing to make Israel safer.

The only people they can stab or ram with their cars are other Palestinians on their side of the wall.

We can add Israel (again) to things you know nothng about.
Palestinian teens stab, kill Israeli in West Bank supermarket
And about a dozen more links to different incidents.

Note: this occurred in the West Bank - that is, it occurred on the other side of the wall.

You're such a nincompoop.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/24/world/middleeast/israel-jerusalem-palestinian-stabbing.html
Palestinian Stabbing Attack in Jerusalem Foiled When Knife Bends Out of Shape
Palestinian shot after stabbing Israeli woman in Jerusalem
Palestinian shot after stabbing Israeli woman in Jerusalem
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=769058

 

[bripat9643]

Spare us your economic idiocy. The laws of supply and demand say that if the supply of labor increases, then price will go down.

You fail.

Except there is no evidence of such a thing. Post it or STFU.
Oh wait. You never post anyting to back up what you say. You're like the JakeStarkey of USMB.

There's no evidence for the laws of supply and demand? Really?

Fail.
Once again you belly flop when confronted with a challenge to your preconceived notions.
OOps.
Illegal Immigrants Don't Lower Our Wages Or Take Our Jobs


Deflection/claims of bias coming in 3...2...1....

"Myriam Quispe-Agnoli, and Fernando Rios-Avila find that documented workers’ wages rise with increases in the share of undocumented workers in a worker’s county and employed by their employers."

Yeah, there's a couple of unbiased researchers - a couple of economist who think they proved the laws of supply and demand are invalid.

Sheesh, you'll swallow anything, won't you?

Here's the nut of their moronic argument:

Why? The law of comparative advantage says we get more productive when we have more trading partners, and the arrival of undocumented workers with limited English skills frees up low-skill American workers who can then specialize in tasks that require better English.
​

What does comparative advantage have to do with the labor supply inside one country? The answer is nothing. Comparative advantage is about trade between countries.

As for specializing in tasks that require better English, what makes anyone think there are such tasks? If a guy is qualified to dig ditches, how will his English skills find him a better job? He's not qualified to run heavy equipment or program computers. The only thing he's "freed up" for is the unemployment line.

So what are you saying here? What evidence of bias do you find in the research?

#1 It's obvious bullshit.

#2 The authors are both immigrants.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes, the work better in non populated areas. For one thing, that makes it harder to build tunnels since you can't hide the opening inside a building.

The claim that "Israel still experiences terrorist attacks" is meaningless. What kind of attacks, with Katyusha rockets? One kind it no longer experiences is from suicide bombers who simply walk across the border.

Walls work.

Suck on it.

Or they stab people. Or ram people with cars. Or.....
The wall did nothing to make Israel safer.

The only people they can stab or ram with their cars are other Palestinians on their side of the wall.

We can add Israel (again) to things you know nothng about.
Palestinian teens stab, kill Israeli in West Bank supermarket
And about a dozen more links to different incidents.

Note: this occurred in the West Bank - that is, it occurred on the other side of the wall.

You're such a nincompoop.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/24/world/middleeast/israel-jerusalem-palestinian-stabbing.html
Palestinian Stabbing Attack in Jerusalem Foiled When Knife Bends Out of Shape
Palestinian shot after stabbing Israeli woman in Jerusalem
Palestinian shot after stabbing Israeli woman in Jerusalem
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=769058

The wall wasn't built through the middle of Jerusalem. It's a UNESCO heritage site. You think they're going to build some huge wall right through the middle of buildings that are thousands of years old?

 

[The Rabbi]

Except there is no evidence of such a thing. Post it or STFU.
Oh wait. You never post anyting to back up what you say. You're like the JakeStarkey of USMB.

There's no evidence for the laws of supply and demand? Really?

Fail.
Once again you belly flop when confronted with a challenge to your preconceived notions.
OOps.
Illegal Immigrants Don't Lower Our Wages Or Take Our Jobs


Deflection/claims of bias coming in 3...2...1....

"Myriam Quispe-Agnoli, and Fernando Rios-Avila find that documented workers’ wages rise with increases in the share of undocumented workers in a worker’s county and employed by their employers."

Yeah, there's a couple of unbiased researchers - a couple of economist who think they proved the laws of supply and demand are invalid.

Sheesh, you'll swallow anything, won't you?

Here's the nut of their moronic argument:

Why? The law of comparative advantage says we get more productive when we have more trading partners, and the arrival of undocumented workers with limited English skills frees up low-skill American workers who can then specialize in tasks that require better English.
​

What does comparative advantage have to do with the labor supply inside one country? The answer is nothing. Comparative advantage is about trade between countries.

As for specializing in tasks that require better English, what makes anyone think there are such tasks? If a guy is qualified to dig ditches, how will his English skills find him a better job? He's not qualified to run heavy equipment or program computers. The only thing he's "freed up" for is the unemployment line.

So what are you saying here? What evidence of bias do you find in the research?

#1 It's obvious bullshit.

#2 The authors are both immigrants.

Ah yes your assertion of "obvious bullshit" makes it so.
Your presumption of bias based on biography is the definition of bigotry.
What is it about Trump that he brings out the worst qualities in people? Bigotry, hatred, violence, envy, ignorance?

 

[The Rabbi]

Or they stab people. Or ram people with cars. Or.....
The wall did nothing to make Israel safer.

The only people they can stab or ram with their cars are other Palestinians on their side of the wall.

We can add Israel (again) to things you know nothng about.
Palestinian teens stab, kill Israeli in West Bank supermarket
And about a dozen more links to different incidents.

Note: this occurred in the West Bank - that is, it occurred on the other side of the wall.

You're such a nincompoop.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/24/world/middleeast/israel-jerusalem-palestinian-stabbing.html
Palestinian Stabbing Attack in Jerusalem Foiled When Knife Bends Out of Shape
Palestinian shot after stabbing Israeli woman in Jerusalem
Palestinian shot after stabbing Israeli woman in Jerusalem
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=769058

The wall wasn't built through the middle of Jerusalem. It's a UNESCO heritage site. You think they're going to build some huge wall right through the middle of buildings that are thousands of years old?

Thanks for admitting you are wrong.
And ignorant.
And smell funny.

 

[Trump.Stamped]

Well you got the meathead line of thinking down!

A wall is a waste of money . Better off improving ins and expanding immigration courts .

And who gives a shit about ISIS !? U watch too many movies .

lol...immigration courts...so we can deport them faster so they can get back sooner?

 

[dblack]

a mandate says you do it or else

So does a tax incentive.

stop being silly

a tax incentive is to encourage particular economic activity

a mandate forces it

It forces it in the same way a tax incentive "encourages" it - through economic penalties. Do the the math. It's the same thing.

no it dont

but continue in your ignorance in the matter

 

[jon_berzerk]

a mandate says you do it or else

So does a tax incentive.

stop being silly

a tax incentive is to encourage particular economic activity

a mandate forces it

It forces it in the same way a tax incentive "encourages" it - through economic penalties. Do the the math. It's the same thing.

no it dont

but continue in your ignorance in the matter

yes you are a fool

that much was obvious