The two main reasons to support Trump:

[dblack]

a mandate says you do it or else

So does a tax incentive.

 

[boedicca]

The only real reason to support Trump is that he is Not hiLIARy.

Just sayin'.

dont kid yourself

a vote for anyone other then Trump

is a vote for Hillary

Scuze me - but I just pointed that out, bub.

But as a Californian, my vote is totally disenfranchised by illegal immigrant motor voters and Dem Precinct Captain Bus Tours for Dead People, so at this point What Difference Does It Make?

 

[jon_berzerk]

a mandate says you do it or else

So does a tax incentive.

stop being silly

a tax incentive is to encourage particular economic activity

a mandate forces it

 

[dblack]

The only real reason to support Trump is that he is Not hiLIARy.

Just sayin'.

dont kid yourself

a vote for anyone other then Trump

is a vote for Hillary

yeah, yeah, yeah. And a vote for anyone other than Hillary is a vote for Trump. That would make a vote for a Libertarian a vote for both? Methinks your logic blows.

 

[jon_berzerk]

The only real reason to support Trump is that he is Not hiLIARy.

Just sayin'.

dont kid yourself

a vote for anyone other then Trump

is a vote for Hillary

yeah, yeah, yeah. And a vote for anyone other than Hillary is a vote for Trump. That would make a vote for a Libertarian a vote for both? Methinks your logic blows.

if you say so slick

 

[dblack]

a mandate says you do it or else

So does a tax incentive.

stop being silly

a tax incentive is to encourage particular economic activity

a mandate forces it

It forces it in the same way a tax incentive "encourages" it - through economic penalties. Do the the math. It's the same thing.

 

[Mertex]

3) Hillary Clinton...an avaricious liar & crook, and incompetent, and in poor health...who all not willingly blind know should be indicted just on the public record if General Petraeus got indicted.

Petraeus knowingly and willingly gave classified information to a person without the clearance to have it. Hillary did no such thing. The FBI has not been able to find any fault.

Hillary is the best qualified of the three that are left. Trump is a know-nothing that thinks that by insulting everyone he will be loved by all. Only those that identify with his type of vile and hate will fall for it. When Hillary debates him he will look like the fool that he is.

Her crime is 100 times worse...but of the same nature.

In your dreams. She has not committed any crime. You just spew what your conservative peers keep repeating, without proof.

 

[jon_berzerk]

a mandate says you do it or else

So does a tax incentive.

stop being silly

a tax incentive is to encourage particular economic activity

a mandate forces it

It forces it in the same way a tax incentive "encourages" it - through economic penalties. Do the the math. It's the same thing.

no it dont

but continue in your ignorance in the matter

 

[dblack]

a mandate says you do it or else

So does a tax incentive.

stop being silly

a tax incentive is to encourage particular economic activity

a mandate forces it

It forces it in the same way a tax incentive "encourages" it - through economic penalties. Do the the math. It's the same thing.

no it dont

but continue in your ignorance in the matter

compelling argument!

 

[The Rabbi]

Why arent our citizens picking crops in fields and building roads and doing landscaping work?

Because employers don't want to pay American style wages. They'd rather pay the kind of wages they pay in Mexico, and illegal immigration makes that possible.

Employers would rather have slave labor. That isnt the point.
Can you show employers in America pay lower wages to illegals, when those illegal present fraudulent credentials?

That isn't the test of whether immigrant labor drives down wages.

OK so that's a fail on your part.
There is no evidence employers pay less than legal wages.
And no evidence illegals drive down wages either.

Spare us your economic idiocy. The laws of supply and demand say that if the supply of labor increases, then price will go down.

You fail.

Except there is no evidence of such a thing. Post it or STFU.
Oh wait. You never post anyting to back up what you say. You're like the JakeStarkey of USMB.

 

[The Rabbi]

Show this empirical evidence.
But you can't. Because you are pulling shit out of your ass again.

Israel’s Security Fence Saves Lives, Builder Says

Israel is the size of a postage stamp . That wall is just a few miles . Not 1000 ! And our relationship wh Mexico is waaaay different that Israel / Palistine.

Israel's wall is 400 miles long. If a country the size of Israel can build a wall that long, then a country 50 times bigger can easily build a 2000 mile lone wall. Our relationship with Mexico is far better that Israel's relationship with the the PLO, so that's hardly an argument.

Except you're missing the other differences. Like Israel's wall is close to population centers and ours wont be. But in similarities, Israel's wall simply prompted Palestinians to tunnel underneath. So will illegals.

Walls work better in non populated areas, so that's no argument against it. Hama and the PLO consumed vast amounts of resources to tunnel under the wall. Nevertheless, whenever they attempted to use them, the Israelis quickly located them and destroyed them. Furthermore, didn't you read the article I posted a link to about new tunnel detection technology?

The bottom line is that the wall has drastically reduced the incidence of suicide bombers in Israel.

The wall works.

Walls work better in non populated areas? What are you smoking?
Israel still experiences terrorist attacks and the Palis have used the tunnels for commerce at least as much as terror.
We can add Israel to things you know nothing about.

 

[The Rabbi]

Huh?
You obviously think illegals come here just to colelct welfare benefits and live in public housing.
That makes you an idiot.

Please then compare and contrast what their lifestyles were in the fucking shithole tar paper shacks they lived in the the shithole sand dune they lived in in Mexico?

You mean before or after we wiped out their agriculture and manufacturing?

You have no clue about Mexico. None at all.

How did we wipe out their agriculture and manufacturing?

We didnt. That's his point.

Whether we did or we didn't, how does his claim support his argument?

Im sorry but if you can't keep up Im not helping you.

 

[bripat9643]

Israel’s Security Fence Saves Lives, Builder Says

Israel is the size of a postage stamp . That wall is just a few miles . Not 1000 ! And our relationship wh Mexico is waaaay different that Israel / Palistine.

Israel's wall is 400 miles long. If a country the size of Israel can build a wall that long, then a country 50 times bigger can easily build a 2000 mile lone wall. Our relationship with Mexico is far better that Israel's relationship with the the PLO, so that's hardly an argument.

Except you're missing the other differences. Like Israel's wall is close to population centers and ours wont be. But in similarities, Israel's wall simply prompted Palestinians to tunnel underneath. So will illegals.

Walls work better in non populated areas, so that's no argument against it. Hama and the PLO consumed vast amounts of resources to tunnel under the wall. Nevertheless, whenever they attempted to use them, the Israelis quickly located them and destroyed them. Furthermore, didn't you read the article I posted a link to about new tunnel detection technology?

The bottom line is that the wall has drastically reduced the incidence of suicide bombers in Israel.

The wall works.

Walls work better in non populated areas? What are you smoking?
Israel still experiences terrorist attacks and the Palis have used the tunnels for commerce at least as much as terror.
We can add Israel to things you know nothing about.

Yes, the work better in non populated areas. For one thing, that makes it harder to build tunnels since you can't hide the opening inside a building.

The claim that "Israel still experiences terrorist attacks" is meaningless. What kind of attacks, with Katyusha rockets? One kind it no longer experiences is from suicide bombers who simply walk across the border.

Walls work.

Suck on it.

 

[bripat9643]

Please then compare and contrast what their lifestyles were in the fucking shithole tar paper shacks they lived in the the shithole sand dune they lived in in Mexico?

You mean before or after we wiped out their agriculture and manufacturing?

You have no clue about Mexico. None at all.

How did we wipe out their agriculture and manufacturing?

We didnt. That's his point.

Whether we did or we didn't, how does his claim support his argument?

Im sorry but if you can't keep up Im not helping you.

I'll take that to mean it doesn't help his argument.

 

[bripat9643]

Because employers don't want to pay American style wages. They'd rather pay the kind of wages they pay in Mexico, and illegal immigration makes that possible.

Employers would rather have slave labor. That isnt the point.
Can you show employers in America pay lower wages to illegals, when those illegal present fraudulent credentials?

That isn't the test of whether immigrant labor drives down wages.

OK so that's a fail on your part.
There is no evidence employers pay less than legal wages.
And no evidence illegals drive down wages either.

Spare us your economic idiocy. The laws of supply and demand say that if the supply of labor increases, then price will go down.

You fail.

Except there is no evidence of such a thing. Post it or STFU.
Oh wait. You never post anyting to back up what you say. You're like the JakeStarkey of USMB.

There's no evidence for the laws of supply and demand? Really?

 

[jon_berzerk]

a mandate says you do it or else

So does a tax incentive.

stop being silly

a tax incentive is to encourage particular economic activity

a mandate forces it

It forces it in the same way a tax incentive "encourages" it - through economic penalties. Do the the math. It's the same thing.

no it dont

but continue in your ignorance in the matter

compelling argument!

--LOL

who needs a compelling argument

when it is obvious they are two different things

Definition of ENCOURAGE

the definition of mandate

 

[The Rabbi]

Israel is the size of a postage stamp . That wall is just a few miles . Not 1000 ! And our relationship wh Mexico is waaaay different that Israel / Palistine.

Israel's wall is 400 miles long. If a country the size of Israel can build a wall that long, then a country 50 times bigger can easily build a 2000 mile lone wall. Our relationship with Mexico is far better that Israel's relationship with the the PLO, so that's hardly an argument.

Except you're missing the other differences. Like Israel's wall is close to population centers and ours wont be. But in similarities, Israel's wall simply prompted Palestinians to tunnel underneath. So will illegals.

Walls work better in non populated areas, so that's no argument against it. Hama and the PLO consumed vast amounts of resources to tunnel under the wall. Nevertheless, whenever they attempted to use them, the Israelis quickly located them and destroyed them. Furthermore, didn't you read the article I posted a link to about new tunnel detection technology?

The bottom line is that the wall has drastically reduced the incidence of suicide bombers in Israel.

The wall works.

Walls work better in non populated areas? What are you smoking?
Israel still experiences terrorist attacks and the Palis have used the tunnels for commerce at least as much as terror.
We can add Israel to things you know nothing about.

Yes, the work better in non populated areas. For one thing, that makes it harder to build tunnels since you can't hide the opening inside a building.

The claim that "Israel still experiences terrorist attacks" is meaningless. What kind of attacks, with Katyusha rockets? One kind it no longer experiences is from suicide bombers who simply walk across the border.

Walls work.

Suck on it.

Or they stab people. Or ram people with cars. Or.....
The wall did nothing to make Israel safer.

 

[The Rabbi]

Employers would rather have slave labor. That isnt the point.
Can you show employers in America pay lower wages to illegals, when those illegal present fraudulent credentials?

That isn't the test of whether immigrant labor drives down wages.

OK so that's a fail on your part.
There is no evidence employers pay less than legal wages.
And no evidence illegals drive down wages either.

Spare us your economic idiocy. The laws of supply and demand say that if the supply of labor increases, then price will go down.

You fail.

Except there is no evidence of such a thing. Post it or STFU.
Oh wait. You never post anyting to back up what you say. You're like the JakeStarkey of USMB.

There's no evidence for the laws of supply and demand? Really?

Fail.
Once again you belly flop when confronted with a challenge to your preconceived notions.
OOps.
Illegal Immigrants Don't Lower Our Wages Or Take Our Jobs


Deflection/claims of bias coming in 3...2...1....

 

[bripat9643]

Israel's wall is 400 miles long. If a country the size of Israel can build a wall that long, then a country 50 times bigger can easily build a 2000 mile lone wall. Our relationship with Mexico is far better that Israel's relationship with the the PLO, so that's hardly an argument.

Except you're missing the other differences. Like Israel's wall is close to population centers and ours wont be. But in similarities, Israel's wall simply prompted Palestinians to tunnel underneath. So will illegals.

Walls work better in non populated areas, so that's no argument against it. Hama and the PLO consumed vast amounts of resources to tunnel under the wall. Nevertheless, whenever they attempted to use them, the Israelis quickly located them and destroyed them. Furthermore, didn't you read the article I posted a link to about new tunnel detection technology?

The bottom line is that the wall has drastically reduced the incidence of suicide bombers in Israel.

The wall works.

Walls work better in non populated areas? What are you smoking?
Israel still experiences terrorist attacks and the Palis have used the tunnels for commerce at least as much as terror.
We can add Israel to things you know nothing about.

Yes, the work better in non populated areas. For one thing, that makes it harder to build tunnels since you can't hide the opening inside a building.

The claim that "Israel still experiences terrorist attacks" is meaningless. What kind of attacks, with Katyusha rockets? One kind it no longer experiences is from suicide bombers who simply walk across the border.

Walls work.

Suck on it.

Or they stab people. Or ram people with cars. Or.....
The wall did nothing to make Israel safer.

The only people they can stab or ram with their cars are other Palestinians on their side of the wall.

 

[The Rabbi]

Except you're missing the other differences. Like Israel's wall is close to population centers and ours wont be. But in similarities, Israel's wall simply prompted Palestinians to tunnel underneath. So will illegals.

Walls work better in non populated areas, so that's no argument against it. Hama and the PLO consumed vast amounts of resources to tunnel under the wall. Nevertheless, whenever they attempted to use them, the Israelis quickly located them and destroyed them. Furthermore, didn't you read the article I posted a link to about new tunnel detection technology?

The bottom line is that the wall has drastically reduced the incidence of suicide bombers in Israel.

The wall works.

Walls work better in non populated areas? What are you smoking?
Israel still experiences terrorist attacks and the Palis have used the tunnels for commerce at least as much as terror.
We can add Israel to things you know nothing about.

Yes, the work better in non populated areas. For one thing, that makes it harder to build tunnels since you can't hide the opening inside a building.

The claim that "Israel still experiences terrorist attacks" is meaningless. What kind of attacks, with Katyusha rockets? One kind it no longer experiences is from suicide bombers who simply walk across the border.

Walls work.

Suck on it.

Or they stab people. Or ram people with cars. Or.....
The wall did nothing to make Israel safer.

The only people they can stab or ram with their cars are other Palestinians on their side of the wall.

We can add Israel (again) to things you know nothng about.
Palestinian teens stab, kill Israeli in West Bank supermarket
And about a dozen more links to different incidents.