The Wages Of Ordinary American Workers Has Increased 9% in Forty Years

why do liberals care so much about what everybody makes? Its their life, their bills, their job, their wallet.

Because spending drives our economy fool.
If the bulk of consumers have less to spend then we have little growth.

Because spending drives our economy fool.

Yes, spending is much more important than production.
That's why Greece is the strongest economy in Europe.

It is dumbass. Spending creates demand. Demand increases production. See how that works?

Spending creates demand. Demand increases production.

The Greeks spent (and demanded) plenty, their production was much lower. See how that works?

Not govt dumbass. Consumers.

Yes, Greek consumers spent more than they produced, that's why the government ran up such a big tab, to make up the difference.

Maybe they should concentrate on production going forward?
 
why do liberals care so much about what everybody makes? Its their life, their bills, their job, their wallet.

why do liberals care so much about what everybody makes? Its their life, their bills, their job, their wallet.

Because a healthy middle class equates to a healthy economy.

Socialism does not create a middle class ... in fact, it destroys it.
Socialism creates peasants.

Socialism creates peasants.

Without socialist ideals you couldn't afford to leave your house.
Really ? Explain.

Really ? Explain.

If city streets weren't paid for by taxes, you'd pay a toll every time you left your driveway.
 
why do liberals care so much about what everybody makes? Its their life, their bills, their job, their wallet.

Because a healthy middle class equates to a healthy economy.

Socialism does not create a middle class ... in fact, it destroys it.
Socialism creates peasants.

Socialism creates peasants.

Without socialist ideals you couldn't afford to leave your house.
Really ? Explain.

Really ? Explain.

If city streets weren't paid for by taxes, you'd pay a toll every time you left your driveway.

Building roads isn't socialism, dumbass. :slap:
 
This is simply unbridled Capitalism. The wealthy have the power and buy access to politicians who make them more wealthy through legislation that gives them an advantage. Blaming Presidents is ridiculous. The blame lies with the lower and middle class people who continue to elect corrupt politicians, and continue to believe in thoroughly debunked concepts like trickle down economics, and unrestrained free markets that work directly against their own best interests. Make no mistake, for many of you, the powerful are working to eliminate your job as soon as they possibly can and put you in a low paying service job, if you're not already there.
Capitalism certainly can work, but this unbridled super capitalism works only for an ever decreasing percentage of Americans.
How often do you voluntarily pay a higher price for something if you can get it cheaper? If you don't, why do you fault business owners for seeking the lowest labor costs they can get? A business does not exist to provide jobs, it exists to create a profit, and if your job doesn't help do that, it probably will disappear. That's just reality.

How often do you voluntarily pay a higher price for something if you can get it cheaper? If you don't, why do you fault business owners for seeking the lowest labor costs they can get? A business does not exist to provide jobs, it exists to create a profit, and if your job doesn't help do that, it probably will disappear. That's just reality.

wtf!! How can you equate an employee with a product? Really?????

If a business fails it's the business owners fault, NOT the fact he/she paid employees too much money.

My three keys to a successful business:

1) Five years total capital.
2) Know who to hire (which you can farm out)
3) Never, never, ever, hire family.
No, I equate an employee's WORK with a SERVICE, because that's what it is. If your job does not help the company make a profit, your job will disappear. Why would it not?

No, I equate an employee's WORK with a SERVICE, because that's what it is. If your job does not help the company make a profit, your job will disappear. Why would it not?

Why would an employer have a position that didn't make the company profit?
 
My wealth went up nearly 800% during the Bush and Obama administrations, I don't know what you people are crying about.

And today after the implosion?

I met with my boss this afternoon, my salary is going up again plus a big bonus :banana:

I met with my boss this afternoon, my salary is going up again plus a big bonus

So you sucked AND swallowed?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

When ALL employees receive the same, the economy will be good again.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

When ALL employees receive the same raise and bonus, the economy will be good again.
That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

Why would you hire or keep a slacker?
 
I met with my boss this afternoon, my salary is going up again plus a big bonus :banana:

I met with my boss this afternoon, my salary is going up again plus a big bonus

So you sucked AND swallowed?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

When ALL employees receive the same, the economy will be good again.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

When ALL employees receive the same raise and bonus, the economy will be good again.
That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

Why would you hire or keep a slacker?
Apparently, you're not supposed to notice differences in the value of work employees produce.
 
Socialism does not create a middle class ... in fact, it destroys it.
Socialism creates peasants.

Socialism creates peasants.

Without socialist ideals you couldn't afford to leave your house.
Really ? Explain.

Really ? Explain.

If city streets weren't paid for by taxes, you'd pay a toll every time you left your driveway.

Building roads isn't socialism, dumbass. :slap:

Building roads isn't socialism, dumbass.

Paying for roads through taxes IS socialist ideals.
 
Socialism creates peasants.

Socialism creates peasants.

Without socialist ideals you couldn't afford to leave your house.
Really ? Explain.

Really ? Explain.

If city streets weren't paid for by taxes, you'd pay a toll every time you left your driveway.

Building roads isn't socialism, dumbass. :slap:

Building roads isn't socialism, dumbass.

Paying for roads through taxes IS socialist ideals.

False. Also, you're a fucking idiot.
 
I met with my boss this afternoon, my salary is going up again plus a big bonus

So you sucked AND swallowed?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

When ALL employees receive the same, the economy will be good again.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

When ALL employees receive the same raise and bonus, the economy will be good again.
That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

Why would you hire or keep a slacker?
Apparently, you're not supposed to notice differences in the value of work employees produce.

Apparently, you're not supposed to notice differences in the value of work employees produce.

You brought it up. Why would you hire or keep a slacker?
 
If a job isn't worth an employee getting a living wage to do it, then the job shouldn't be done.
 
I met with my boss this afternoon, my salary is going up again plus a big bonus :banana:

I met with my boss this afternoon, my salary is going up again plus a big bonus

So you sucked AND swallowed?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

When ALL employees receive the same, the economy will be good again.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

When ALL employees receive the same raise and bonus, the economy will be good again.
That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

Why would you hire or keep a slacker?

why should the vast majority on welfare, most of whom are able bodied get to stay on welfare for generations?
 
I met with my boss this afternoon, my salary is going up again plus a big bonus

So you sucked AND swallowed?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

When ALL employees receive the same, the economy will be good again.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

When ALL employees receive the same raise and bonus, the economy will be good again.
That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

Why would you hire or keep a slacker?

why should the vast majority on welfare, most of whom are able bodied get to stay on welfare for generations?
They shouldn't.
They shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. Being able to support yourself and your own family should be a prerequisite to getting pregnant.
 
So you are a sicko, shocker.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

When ALL employees receive the same raise and bonus, the economy will be good again.
That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

Why would you hire or keep a slacker?

why should the vast majority on welfare, most of whom are able bodied get to stay on welfare for generations?
They shouldn't.
They shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. Being able to support yourself and your own family should be a prerequisite to getting pregnant.

Ladies and Gentlemen........The King and Queen of stupid!!!!
 
So you are a sicko, shocker.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

When ALL employees receive the same raise and bonus, the economy will be good again.
That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

Why would you hire or keep a slacker?
Apparently, you're not supposed to notice differences in the value of work employees produce.

Apparently, you're not supposed to notice differences in the value of work employees produce.

You brought it up. Why would you hire or keep a slacker?
Slacker is a relative term. Even if all of your employees are above average, there will still be weaker and stronger performers. Again, why should he/she get the same rewards as the superstar?
 
why do liberals care so much about what everybody makes? Its their life, their bills, their job, their wallet.

why do liberals care so much about what everybody makes? Its their life, their bills, their job, their wallet.

Because a healthy middle class equates to a healthy economy.

Socialism does not create a middle class ... in fact, it destroys it.

Socialism does not create a middle class ... in fact, it destroys it.

I wrote socialist ideals, not socialism.

Mighty fine line you draw ... "let's implement socialist ideals without implementing socialism."

Clearly, you know something nobody else in the history of failed socialism knew.
 
Last time I checked, they called that socialism ... and all socialist economies collapse. Check out a history book.

Last time I checked, they called that socialism ... and all socialist economies collapse. Check out a history book.

Try socialist ideals, which help the middle class prosper.

.... which, of course, is absolutely false, as you well know.

.... which, of course, is absolutely false, as you well know.

You pay for most public services through taxes which is placing money in a pot, or a socialist ideal.

Obtuse, don't you think? It makes no sense whatsoever. In fact, it demonstrates a shallow and simplistic understanding of macro economics.

Obtuse, don't you think? It makes no sense whatsoever. In fact, it demonstrates a shallow and simplistic understanding of macro economics.

Thanks for your uneducated opinion. If you'd like to state fact as to where I'm wrong, go ahead.

You purport to support "socialist ideals" without supporting socialism. Further, you refuse to answer challenges to your position, but rather attack the challenger. Your one-liners carry no intelligent, supporting, discussion, but rather, serve as "pronouncements from on high" - pronouncements that you seem incapable to defend.
 
You see, the teabaggers don't know how to understand statistics and graphs. Unless "the donald" and the koch boys tell them what it means.


Meanwhile:

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Your graph is bullsh#t and I will tell you why. It shows everybody equal in 1979. And that is simply NOT true.

No it doesn't. The graph shows percentage change over time. Not absolute value. All categories will start at 0% change at the beginning of the measurement period.
 
Because spending drives our economy fool.
If the bulk of consumers have less to spend then we have little growth.

Because spending drives our economy fool.

Yes, spending is much more important than production.
That's why Greece is the strongest economy in Europe.

It is dumbass. Spending creates demand. Demand increases production. See how that works?

Spending creates demand. Demand increases production.

The Greeks spent (and demanded) plenty, their production was much lower. See how that works?

Not govt dumbass. Consumers.

Yes, Greek consumers spent more than they produced, that's why the government ran up such a big tab, to make up the difference.

Maybe they should concentrate on production going forward?

Just dumb. SMH
 
I met with my boss this afternoon, my salary is going up again plus a big bonus

So you sucked AND swallowed?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

When ALL employees receive the same, the economy will be good again.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

When ALL employees receive the same raise and bonus, the economy will be good again.
That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

Why would you hire or keep a slacker?

why should the vast majority on welfare, most of whom are able bodied get to stay on welfare for generations?

The maximum is five years in a lifetime. Not generations.
 
The nazi in you emerges.


So you are a sicko, shocker.

So you are a sicko, shocker.

When ALL employees receive the same raise and bonus, the economy will be good again.
That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

That's dumb. All employees do not represent equal value to the company. Why should a slacker get the same raise and bonus as a superstar?

Why would you hire or keep a slacker?

why should the vast majority on welfare, most of whom are able bodied get to stay on welfare for generations?
They shouldn't.
They shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. Being able to support yourself and your own family should be a prerequisite to getting pregnant.
 

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