The War On Everyday Americans: Why Jobs Are Disappearing, & why universal basic income is our future

[ThunderKiss1965]

a UBI would be cheaper and more effective than what we do now, economically. If you take the total amount we spend on anti-poverty programs and divide by the number of poor people, there should be no poor people!

Poor people aren’t lazy, they’re trapped in the current system. A UBI is not contingent on staying poor, so it would both lift people out of poverty and flatten out the benefits cliff. Of course, this means that the new UBI would be instead of existing programs, rather than a supplement, and not everyone agrees with that.

Finally, there is crude "realpolitik." Plenty of very wealthy people already live in the US, and the new economy is likely to create inequality on steroids. In a democracy, the poor and middle class have many tools to “negotiate” redistribution at gunpoint.

So who is going to pay for this ?

 

[basquebromance]

a UBI would be cheaper and more effective than what we do now, economically. If you take the total amount we spend on anti-poverty programs and divide by the number of poor people, there should be no poor people!

Poor people aren’t lazy, they’re trapped in the current system. A UBI is not contingent on staying poor, so it would both lift people out of poverty and flatten out the benefits cliff. Of course, this means that the new UBI would be instead of existing programs, rather than a supplement, and not everyone agrees with that.

Finally, there is crude "realpolitik." Plenty of very wealthy people already live in the US, and the new economy is likely to create inequality on steroids. In a democracy, the poor and middle class have many tools to “negotiate” redistribution at gunpoint.

So who is going to pay for this ?

you

 

[Theowl32]

s, been concerned and saying this for a while. Humans will become more and more useless. AI is and has been taking over and surpassing humanity. We know for instance AI or machines have all but completely taken over assembly lines. Not new there.

The next step, as AI takes over all menial jobs and then take over more crucial jobs, there will be a need to cull the herd.

In other words there will be another great plague or mass nuclear war. Something, to wipe out a gigantic number humans.

Don't doubt it. The globalists have been wiping out millions upon millions of Africans. Look up how DDT was the most effective defense against the spread of malaria in Africa. All of a sudden a fake study (proven fake) showed how DDT was so harmful to the environment. THEY banned the use, all of a sudden mosquitoes went back to spreading the deadly disease. Millions of Africans have died and continue to as a result of the banning of DDT which is not harmful to the environment.

People shouldn't automatically assume that the machine is superior to human workers. I recently deposited $560 into a bank's ATM machine, only to receive back a piece of paper not crediting me with the deposit, and telling me to call the bank.

I did, and they said they were investigating my deposit. What needs to be investigated is THEM, and their screwy ATM machine. Never again.

Always an exception and always will be. The bottom line, is the bottom line.

Machines work tirelessly for free.

 

[protectionist]

a UBI would be cheaper and more effective than what we do now, economically. If you take the total amount we spend on anti-poverty programs and divide by the number of poor people, there should be no poor people!

Poor people aren’t lazy, they’re trapped in the current system. A UBI is not contingent on staying poor, so it would both lift people out of poverty and flatten out the benefits cliff. Of course, this means that the new UBI would be instead of existing programs, rather than a supplement, and not everyone agrees with that.

Finally, there is crude "realpolitik." Plenty of very wealthy people already live in the US, and the new economy is likely to create inequality on steroids. In a democracy, the poor and middle class have many tools to “negotiate” redistribution at gunpoint.

The biggest job disappearance (from Americans) by far, is the 8 million jobs gone to illegal aliens, swiping them away from American workers. Are you concerned about that ?

 

[protectionist]

Always an exception and always will be. The bottom line, is the bottom line.

Machines work tirelessly for free.

I'm not so sure this is an "exception". I've heard of it happening to other people as well. Point is, there is a QUALTY difference. With a live teller, you can insist on a receipt, and you get it.

And the machines are "free". You have to buy them, maintain them, and if/when they screw up, you could have hell to pay.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

a UBI would be cheaper and more effective than what we do now, economically. If you take the total amount we spend on anti-poverty programs and divide by the number of poor people, there should be no poor people!

Poor people aren’t lazy, they’re trapped in the current system. A UBI is not contingent on staying poor, so it would both lift people out of poverty and flatten out the benefits cliff. Of course, this means that the new UBI would be instead of existing programs, rather than a supplement, and not everyone agrees with that.

Finally, there is crude "realpolitik." Plenty of very wealthy people already live in the US, and the new economy is likely to create inequality on steroids. In a democracy, the poor and middle class have many tools to “negotiate” redistribution at gunpoint.

Sorry to burst your bubble but most poor people are in fact lazy.

 

[eagle1462010]

Not gonna happen..........Pipe Dreams...........put down the pipe and go to rehab.

 

[Thinker101]

Jobs are disappearing? Dang, who knew?

Just good jobs going unfilled because we must save the rich... So we can't afford cheap education and Training....

Good jobs going unfilled to save the rich?? WTF kinda nonsense is that...oh, sorry, you're a fricken lib...never mind.

3 to 6 million good technical jobs are going begging because the GOP blocks cheap training and education for them, all to save the rich from paying taxes, dumbass.

You have a link no doubt?

 

[sparky]

a UBI would be cheaper and more effective than what we do now, economically. If you take the total amount we spend on anti-poverty programs and divide by the number of poor people, there should be no poor people!

Poor people aren’t lazy, they’re trapped in the current system. A UBI is not contingent on staying poor, so it would both lift people out of poverty and flatten out the benefits cliff. Of course, this means that the new UBI would be instead of existing programs, rather than a supplement, and not everyone agrees with that.

Finally, there is crude "realpolitik." Plenty of very wealthy people already live in the US, and the new economy is likely to create inequality on steroids. In a democracy, the poor and middle class have many tools to “negotiate” redistribution at gunpoint.

The biggest job disappearance (from Americans) by far, is the 8 million jobs gone to illegal aliens, swiping them away from American workers. Are you concerned about that ?

I'm concerned how many are going to buy into that fallacy

~S~

 

[sparky]

a UBI would be cheaper and more effective than what we do now, economically. If you take the total amount we spend on anti-poverty programs and divide by the number of poor people, there should be no poor people!

Poor people aren’t lazy, they’re trapped in the current system. A UBI is not contingent on staying poor, so it would both lift people out of poverty and flatten out the benefits cliff. Of course, this means that the new UBI would be instead of existing programs, rather than a supplement, and not everyone agrees with that.

Finally, there is crude "realpolitik." Plenty of very wealthy people already live in the US, and the new economy is likely to create inequality on steroids. In a democracy, the poor and middle class have many tools to “negotiate” redistribution at gunpoint.

Sorry to burst your bubble but most poor people are in fact lazy.

Right, and most sick folks are due to thier diets. lifestyle, or the fact their liberals

~S~

 

[HenryBHough]

What a wonderful world when everyone (human nature being wot it is) TAKES and nobody MAKES. Until all the stuff that was MADE has been TAKEN. Maybe that's why a couple of multi-billionaires are thinking the future lies on some planet other that "Planet Progressive"?

 

[francoHFW]

Jobs are disappearing? Dang, who knew?

Just good jobs going unfilled because we must save the rich... So we can't afford cheap education and Training....

Good jobs going unfilled to save the rich?? WTF kinda nonsense is that...oh, sorry, you're a fricken lib...never mind.

3 to 6 million good technical jobs are going begging because the GOP blocks cheap training and education for them, all to save the rich from paying taxes, dumbass.

You have a link no doubt?

High-Paying Trade Jobs Sit Empty, While High School Grads Line Up For ... - NPR
NPR › sections › 2018/04/25 › high-payi...
Apr 25, 2018 · Listen· 3:54 ... Some 30 million jobs in the United States that pay an average of ... State Auditor found that good jobs in the skilled trades are going begging because ...


Washington Monthly | High-Paying Jobs Go Begging While High School Grads ...
Washington Monthly › 2018/05/02 › hig...
May 2, 2018 · High-Paying Jobs Go Begging While High School Grads Line .... million to improve the delivery of career and technical ...

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

a UBI would be cheaper and more effective than what we do now, economically. If you take the total amount we spend on anti-poverty programs and divide by the number of poor people, there should be no poor people!

Poor people aren’t lazy, they’re trapped in the current system. A UBI is not contingent on staying poor, so it would both lift people out of poverty and flatten out the benefits cliff. Of course, this means that the new UBI would be instead of existing programs, rather than a supplement, and not everyone agrees with that.

Finally, there is crude "realpolitik." Plenty of very wealthy people already live in the US, and the new economy is likely to create inequality on steroids. In a democracy, the poor and middle class have many tools to “negotiate” redistribution at gunpoint.

Sorry to burst your bubble but most poor people are in fact lazy.

Right, and most sick folks are due to thier diets. lifestyle, or the fact their liberals

~S~

Most chronically sick people have poor lifestyle choices to blame. Dunno why you mentioned liberal too. That is a blatantly stupid fucking comment

 

[protectionist]

I'm concerned how many are going to buy into that fallacy

Who would you consider a valid source on the subject ? (8 million jobs gone to illegal aliens,) Take your pick

A. Breitbart
B. Fox News
C. Pew Research Center
D. Daily Caller

 

[protectionist]

Size of U.S. Unauthorized Immigrant Workforce Stable After the Great Recession

 

[JBond]

a UBI would be cheaper and more effective than what we do now, economically. If you take the total amount we spend on anti-poverty programs and divide by the number of poor people, there should be no poor people!

Poor people aren’t lazy, they’re trapped in the current system. A UBI is not contingent on staying poor, so it would both lift people out of poverty and flatten out the benefits cliff. Of course, this means that the new UBI would be instead of existing programs, rather than a supplement, and not everyone agrees with that.

Finally, there is crude "realpolitik." Plenty of very wealthy people already live in the US, and the new economy is likely to create inequality on steroids. In a democracy, the poor and middle class have many tools to “negotiate” redistribution at gunpoint.

Sorry to burst your bubble but most poor people are in fact lazy.

Many created their own challenges. Poor decisions have consequences. Something most adults understand.

 

[sparky]

I'm concerned how many are going to buy into that fallacy

Who would you consider a valid source on the subject ? (8 million jobs gone to illegal aliens,) Take your pick

A. Breitbart
B. Fox News
C. Pew Research Center
D. Daily Caller

E. The Federal Gub'mit>>>
Temporary Protected Status

~S~

 

[basquebromance]

universal basic income is the most ambitious social policy in history.

it eliminates welfare and eliminates poverty at the same time

 

[Mac1958]

It's essentially inevitable at this point. Technology and productivity have seen to it.

So, we can collaborate and figure out the best way to do it, or we can make it just another shallow, grade school-level winner-takes-all struggle.

Gosh, I wonder which one it will be.


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[basquebromance]

UBI is a way of transferring the wealth of a society, while still keeping the free market intact