CDZ There's something seriously wrong with a system...

[Care4all]

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

What “coup attempt”?

A coup is an armed overthrow of the government, usually by the military.

Nothing like that has happened.

Fyi

A "Soft Coup" is not violent...

 

[$ecular#eckler]

The checks and balances do not work, and you refuse to recognize that. The government is improperly organized and so that prevents the proper checks on power.
You are describing the symptom of the lack of proper checks on power.
Two minute video here. Former representative describes how he witness that the Republican Attorney General refused to prosecute a corrupt bureaucrat because he was too close to Hillary Clinton.


You set this discussion in the Clean Debate category - does anybody have a better explanation?

Or are you experiencing derails???

 

[Care4all]

Trump lost.

So Trump wanted to burn or blow the house down....

He convinced his minions, to enact his revenge... If democracy, voted him out, then he was going to destroy that democracy.

You ALL are just his helpers, so he doesn't have to get his precious little fingers, dirty.

YOU are being used and abused, but are so far in to supporting him as your savior from all the perceived liberal evil and deep state conspiracy, that you have to keep supporting him and his Big Lie, to save face....

It's a sad situation, but one that Trump, counts on.....

 

[Anomalism]

It is

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

What “coup attempt”?

A coup is an armed overthrow of the government, usually by the military.

Nothing like that has happened.

Not necessarily armed, just sudden and violent. Militaries are well placed for this kind of action but coup attempts certainly don't require the military.

So yes, it was indeed a coup attempt.

It's kind of a stretch to call it a coup attempt. Usually a lot of people die in a coup attempt. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Not a stretch. That's what it was. We are simply lucky they were inept.

I think your view has been distorted by partisan insanity if you think that giant group of people went there to overthrow the government in some kind of organized coup attempt. Considering the death count that view is absurd.

 

[Batcat]

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

There is something seriously wrong with a party that supports riots that include looting and burning blocks of cities and also throwing bricks and firing commercial grade fireworks at cops. Some of these rioters set a police precinct ablaze with cops inside.

Portland rioters attempt their own 'autonomous zone', torch police precinct while people were inside

The riots have gotten even more sinister and violent. Rioters blocked building exits while setting it on fire. Have we had enough yet?

www.lawenforcementtoday.com

Dems have abandoned all principle by telegraphing approval of some rioting

Are some riots good and others unacceptable? Surely not. Those who destroy property and commit assaults, whether against law enforcers or civilians, ought to be punished, no matter the cause they c…

nypost.com

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

America is a constitutional republic whose democracy is both indirect and diffused – the executive and judicial branches of government often don’t reflect the will of the majority of the people, as is the case with the Senate in the legislative branch.

The presidency, Federal courts, and the Senate reflect the will of the majority of the states – not the people.

That’s how the party responsible for an attempted coup is able to block an investigation into that attempted coup and terrorist attack.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

There's something seriously wrong with a system that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup.

The Checks and balances do not work. This is a symptom of that inadequacy.

For the sake of reason - you do not know what the bipartisan commission would reveal. Probably a big nothing burger that costs millions of dollars that could have been spent on Critical Race Theory seminars.

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.

Okay, what do you want the people here at USMB to do??? Vote them out, and then what - is that all the justice you want???

And, you think you have convinced "the Cultist" to see things your way, the real truth, and that they will vote them out???

They need to be removed.

Sounds like you are threatening something

Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

You love the Constitution - don't you?
How about Article I Section 5 that lets the legislatures make their own rules - do you like how that works in this situation?

Wake Up!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Well, it's up to the electorate. It's up to the Democrats to get out the vote.

It is and it isn't. They clearly violated their oaths and should be removed. The political will doesn't seem to be there though.

And that lack of political will exists among the voters who elected those Republicans to the Senate.

Or more precisely, among voters whose political will is to ignore the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy, to lie about it, and pretend it never happened.

Republican voters and Republican elected officials know that the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy is a political liability for the GOP – the last thing they want is an investigation into Trump and the right’s culpability in that terrorist attack.

 

[Batcat]

Trump lost.

So Trump wanted to burn or blow the house down....

He convinced his minions, to enact his revenge... If democracy, voted him out, then he was going to destroy that democracy.

You ALL are just his helpers, so he doesn't have to get his precious little fingers, dirty.

YOU are being used and abused, but are so far in to supporting him as your savior from all the perceived liberal evil and deep state conspiracy, that you have to keep supporting him and his Big Lie, to save face....

It's a sad situation, but one that Trump, counts on.....

If the Trump supporters had really wanted to take over the Capitol Building they would have came armed to the teeth and accomplished that mission.

The “insurrection“ was simply a rowdy mob that got out of control. Mobs often do that. At least the Trump mob didn’t burn the Capitol building like The BLM and Antifa mobs did to many blocks in our cities.

 

[alang1216]

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

Well, it's up to the electorate. It's up to the Democrats to get out the vote.

This is a pretty ugly time in our history, and there's no guarantee we'll get out of it intact.

Are the Democrats providing a strong enough alternative to end this madness? We'll see soon enough.

I don't think anything will improve so long as the cult of trump is going strong.

 

[Mac1958]

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

Well, it's up to the electorate. It's up to the Democrats to get out the vote.

This is a pretty ugly time in our history, and there's no guarantee we'll get out of it intact.

Are the Democrats providing a strong enough alternative to end this madness? We'll see soon enough.

I don't think anything will improve so long as the cult of trump is going strong.

It's polluting pretty much everything.

 

[alang1216]

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

Well, it's up to the electorate. It's up to the Democrats to get out the vote.

This is a pretty ugly time in our history, and there's no guarantee we'll get out of it intact.

Are the Democrats providing a strong enough alternative to end this madness? We'll see soon enough.

I don't think anything will improve so long as the cult of trump is going strong.

It's polluting pretty much everything.

Like the rest of the world, I've lost a good bit of respect for this country. I'm hoping it is just an aberration.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

Well, it's up to the electorate. It's up to the Democrats to get out the vote.

It is and it isn't. They clearly violated their oaths and should be removed. The political will doesn't seem to be there though.

And that lack of political will exists among the voters who elected those Republicans to the Senate.

So what do you want to do about it???

Or more precisely, among voters whose political will is to ignore the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy, to lie about it, and pretend it never happened.

Republican voters and Republican elected officials know that the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy is a political liability for the GOP – the last thing they want is an investigation into Trump and the right’s culpability in that terrorist attack.

You do not know what the bipartisan commission would reveal. It does not necessarily have to go your way.

How are you going to prove that it was anything more than some overzealous protesters who for several months witnessed riots and looting on the part of their political rivals???

 

[$ecular#eckler]

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

Well, it's up to the electorate. It's up to the Democrats to get out the vote.

This is a pretty ugly time in our history, and there's no guarantee we'll get out of it intact.

Are the Democrats providing a strong enough alternative to end this madness? We'll see soon enough.

I don't think anything will improve so long as the cult of trump is going strong.

It's polluting pretty much everything.

Like the rest of the world, I've lost a good bit of respect for this country. I'm hoping it is just an aberration.

The rest of the world does not understand our politics, just like you do not understand any other country's politics.

When was the last time you noticed other countries having some noticeable respect for the United States - when they were massively immigrating to America???

When? What made you think other countries really really respected America?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Well, it's up to the electorate. It's up to the Democrats to get out the vote.

It is and it isn't. They clearly violated their oaths and should be removed. The political will doesn't seem to be there though.

And that lack of political will exists among the voters who elected those Republicans to the Senate.

So what do you want to do about it???

Or more precisely, among voters whose political will is to ignore the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy, to lie about it, and pretend it never happened.

Republican voters and Republican elected officials know that the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy is a political liability for the GOP – the last thing they want is an investigation into Trump and the right’s culpability in that terrorist attack.

You do not know what the bipartisan commission would reveal. It does not necessarily have to go your way.

How are you going to prove that it was anything more than some overzealous protesters who for several months witnessed riots and looting on the part of their political rivals???

Conservatives will of course argue that the Framers’ intent in creating a constitutional republic was to protect a political minority from the tyranny of the majority – but it was not the Framers’ intent to create our political system to conceal the truth, advance lies and disinformation, and pander to the partisan whims of one individual, as Republicans seek to do.

That conservatives are embarrassed by, and fearful of, an investigation into the causes of the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy is not ‘justification’ to block that investigation.

 

[surada]

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

There is something seriously wrong with a party that supports riots that include looting and burning blocks of cities and also throwing bricks and firing commercial grade fireworks at cops. Some of these rioters set a police precinct ablaze with cops inside.

Portland rioters attempt their own 'autonomous zone', torch police precinct while people were inside

The riots have gotten even more sinister and violent. Rioters blocked building exits while setting it on fire. Have we had enough yet?

www.lawenforcementtoday.com

Dems have abandoned all principle by telegraphing approval of some rioting

Are some riots good and others unacceptable? Surely not. Those who destroy property and commit assaults, whether against law enforcers or civilians, ought to be punished, no matter the cause they c…

nypost.com

Rioter, looters etc are supposed to be arrested. Everybody knows that.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

Well, it's up to the electorate. It's up to the Democrats to get out the vote.

It is and it isn't. They clearly violated their oaths and should be removed. The political will doesn't seem to be there though.

And that lack of political will exists among the voters who elected those Republicans to the Senate.

So what do you want to do about it???

Or more precisely, among voters whose political will is to ignore the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy, to lie about it, and pretend it never happened.

Republican voters and Republican elected officials know that the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy is a political liability for the GOP – the last thing they want is an investigation into Trump and the right’s culpability in that terrorist attack.

You do not know what the bipartisan commission would reveal. It does not necessarily have to go your way.

How are you going to prove that it was anything more than some overzealous protesters who for several months witnessed riots and looting on the part of their political rivals???

Conservatives will of course argue that the Framers’ intent in creating a constitutional republic was to protect a political minority from the tyranny of the majority – but it was not the Framers’ intent to create our political system to conceal the truth, advance lies and disinformation, and pander to the partisan whims of one individual, as Republicans seek to do.

Where is the word "truth" in the Constitution?

That conservatives are embarrassed by, and fearful of, an investigation into the causes of the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy is not ‘justification’ to block that investigation.

That's the rules of the game theory that is in play that is set up by the almighty United States Constitution - what are you going to do about it?

 

[Crepitus]

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

What “coup attempt”?

A coup is an armed overthrow of the government, usually by the military.

Nothing like that has happened.

Fyi

A "Soft Coup" is not violent...

Yeah, I didn't figure a subtle distinction like that was within his capabilities.

 

[Crepitus]

It is

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

What “coup attempt”?

A coup is an armed overthrow of the government, usually by the military.

Nothing like that has happened.

Not necessarily armed, just sudden and violent. Militaries are well placed for this kind of action but coup attempts certainly don't require the military.

So yes, it was indeed a coup attempt.

It's kind of a stretch to call it a coup attempt. Usually a lot of people die in a coup attempt. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Not a stretch. That's what it was. We are simply lucky they were inept.

I think your view has been distorted by partisan insanity if you think that giant group of people went there to overthrow the government in some kind of organized coup attempt. Considering the death count that view is absurd.

I think that you've been watching too much faux niwz.

 

[Crepitus]

...that lets the party responsible for an attempted coup block investigation into the attempted coup. They need to be removed. Every single one that supported this and continues to should be removed for cause, they've violated their oaths to the constitution.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution states that no elected official "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution]"

We need to apply that vigorously and get rid of these anti American types who want to do away with democracy in favor of authoritarian rule.


They know it, too. That's why they blocked the commission.

There is something seriously wrong with a party that supports riots that include looting and burning blocks of cities and also throwing bricks and firing commercial grade fireworks at cops. Some of these rioters set a police precinct ablaze with cops inside.

Portland rioters attempt their own 'autonomous zone', torch police precinct while people were inside

The riots have gotten even more sinister and violent. Rioters blocked building exits while setting it on fire. Have we had enough yet?

www.lawenforcementtoday.com

Dems have abandoned all principle by telegraphing approval of some rioting

Are some riots good and others unacceptable? Surely not. Those who destroy property and commit assaults, whether against law enforcers or civilians, ought to be punished, no matter the cause they c…

nypost.com

That's still a false equivalency, just like it was the other ten thousand times one of you tRumplings posted it.