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Why is a homicide or a suicide with a gun somehow worse than a homicide or suicide without a gun?Has the number of gun homicides “plummeted”? How about gun suicides?
It isn’t worse. It’s easier.
Next.
If it's easier then why are knives and bare hands used to kill more people than rifles every year?
And Suicide is a choice but we all know how you hate it when people have choices
Yeah. It easier to kill with a knife than a gun. That’s perfect logic. Thanks for playing.
Then tell me why knives are used more often to kill than rifles.
Does the right to bear arms...
... supersede the safety...
... and well being of others?
That seems to be the question...
... our society is struggling with.
A better question is whether the forced inability of law-abiding citizens to defend ourselves and uphold our constitutional rights because of the actions of a very tiny few makes us a safer, freer and better society for all, and whether taking away guns like this has actually ever worked to make anyone more safe, more free---- or less? History says otherwise.
How many times have you been forced to defend yourself with a gun?
If ever, did you put yourself in jeopardy, knowing you had a gun, and that this simple possession gave you the courage to act against common sense?
The meme from the NRA and its fellow travelers is a gun is used 16 trillion times a day (yes, hyperbole, but used for effect) by simply showing the gun, and another 500 times a day, to shoot a bad guy.
Odd that any number can be put into this ^^^ paragraph, and used on forums such as this one. And yet, actual records / facts offer evidence that guns are used everyday to kill or maim a person, under varying circumstances.
Deaths and injury by gun shot are expensive ER interventions, and high speed projectiles do extensive damage to tissue and organs by tumbling upon impact. One who is honest understands why such weapons are used by those intent on killing masses of human beings with a weapon with less recoil and more effect on the target.
Where are computers mentioned in the First?
Misdirection. This is about the 2nd.
And what you say applies to all rights
so it is an acceptable direction for the conversation
I suppose, if you admit you can't prove your previous point
I certainly can prove computers were not mentioned in the first amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
That's nice. Has nothing to do with what we were discussing, but nice.
Men can't define the parts of a woman's body/reproductive system, but want to Ban women's health organizations/the right for women to determine what to do with their own bodies.Imagine that... Some snowflake in Illinois wants to Ban the following...
The list is long and includes all the following models or duplicates thereof: AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR, AR-10, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, Olympic Arms PCR, AR70, Calico Liberty, Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle, Dragunov SVU, Fabrique NationalFN/FAL, FN/LAR, FNC, Hi-Point Carbine, HK-91, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle, SAR-8, Sturm, Ruger Mini-14, and more.
Shit is getting deep boys and girls...
Town votes to ban assault rifles, fine violators $1,000 a day
What are you talking about? Former President Obama already grabbed everyone's guns....just like the NRA warned he would.Does the right to bear arms...
... supersede the safety...
... and well being of others?
That seems to be the question...
... our society is struggling with.
A better question is whether the forced inability of law-abiding citizens to defend ourselves and uphold our constitutional rights because of the actions of a very tiny few makes us a safer, freer and better society for all, and whether taking away guns like this has actually ever worked to make anyone more safe, more free---- or less? History says otherwise.
How many times have you been forced to defend yourself with a gun?
If ever, did you put yourself in jeopardy, knowing you had a gun, and that this simple possession gave you the courage to act against common sense?
The meme from the NRA and its fellow travelers is a gun is used 16 trillion times a day (yes, hyperbole, but used for effect) by simply showing the gun, and another 500 times a day, to shoot a bad guy.
Odd that any number can be put into this ^^^ paragraph, and used on forums such as this one. And yet, actual records / facts offer evidence that guns are used everyday to kill or maim a person, under varying circumstances.
Deaths and injury by gun shot are expensive ER interventions, and high speed projectiles do extensive damage to tissue and organs by tumbling upon impact. One who is honest understands why such weapons are used by those intent on killing masses of human beings with a weapon with less recoil and more effect on the target.
Whatever you say s0n...youve been wasting your breath on gun grabbing for what...50 years? I don't get it....
Nah, you gave some screed that gave no useful information, such as what their laws were before they were amended. They were already strict.And I've already shown you how the gun laws of those European countries you love so much did not lower their murder rates below what they were before the gun laws were passed.
There are no categories of semiautomatics since they ALL function exactly the same wayNo it isn't. They are banning certain categories of semis. Read the damned legislation.A ban on semi-autos is a blanket ban. That is what that town in by Chicago is doing,
Why is a homicide or a suicide with a gun somehow worse than a homicide or suicide without a gun?
It isn’t worse. It’s easier.
Next.
If it's easier then why are knives and bare hands used to kill more people than rifles every year?
And Suicide is a choice but we all know how you hate it when people have choices
Yeah. It easier to kill with a knife than a gun. That’s perfect logic. Thanks for playing.
Then tell me why knives are used more often to kill than rifles.
Where are you getting your stats?
Murder - number of victims by weapons used 2016 | Statistic
Rifles? That’s a wonderful clarification that makes you a into an equivocating loser. So boring to talk to people who cannot be honest.
Does the right to bear arms...
... supersede the safety...
... and well being of others?
That seems to be the question...
... our society is struggling with.
A better question is whether the forced inability of law-abiding citizens to defend ourselves and uphold our constitutional rights because of the actions of a very tiny few makes us a safer, freer and better society for all, and whether taking away guns like this has actually ever worked to make anyone more safe, more free---- or less? History says otherwise.
How many times have you been forced to defend yourself with a gun?
If ever, did you put yourself in jeopardy, knowing you had a gun, and that this simple possession gave you the courage to act against common sense?
The meme from the NRA and its fellow travelers is a gun is used 16 trillion times a day (yes, hyperbole, but used for effect) by simply showing the gun, and another 500 times a day, to shoot a bad guy.
Odd that any number can be put into this ^^^ paragraph, and used on forums such as this one. And yet, actual records / facts offer evidence that guns are used everyday to kill or maim a person, under varying circumstances.
Deaths and injury by gun shot are expensive ER interventions, and high speed projectiles do extensive damage to tissue and organs by tumbling upon impact. One who is honest understands why such weapons are used by those intent on killing masses of human beings with a weapon with less recoil and more effect on the target.
Whatever you say s0n...youve been wasting your breath on gun grabbing for what...50 years? I don't get it....
It isn’t worse. It’s easier.
Next.
If it's easier then why are knives and bare hands used to kill more people than rifles every year?
And Suicide is a choice but we all know how you hate it when people have choices
Yeah. It easier to kill with a knife than a gun. That’s perfect logic. Thanks for playing.
Then tell me why knives are used more often to kill than rifles.
Where are you getting your stats?
Murder - number of victims by weapons used 2016 | Statistic
Rifles? That’s a wonderful clarification that makes you a into an equivocating loser. So boring to talk to people who cannot be honest.
Just the FBI
Expanded Homicide Data Table 4
Just in case you can't read the table I will give you the salient poits
in 2016 homicides with rifles 374
with knives 1604
with fists/feet 656
So I'll ask you if it's so much easier to kill with a rifle (especially those scary black ones) why do murders with knives and/or fists outnumber murders with rifles?
Does the right to bear arms...
... supersede the safety...
... and well being of others?
That seems to be the question...
... our society is struggling with.
A better question is whether the forced inability of law-abiding citizens to defend ourselves and uphold our constitutional rights because of the actions of a very tiny few makes us a safer, freer and better society for all, and whether taking away guns like this has actually ever worked to make anyone more safe, more free---- or less? History says otherwise.
How many times have you been forced to defend yourself with a gun?
If ever, did you put yourself in jeopardy, knowing you had a gun, and that this simple possession gave you the courage to act against common sense?
The meme from the NRA and its fellow travelers is a gun is used 16 trillion times a day (yes, hyperbole, but used for effect) by simply showing the gun, and another 500 times a day, to shoot a bad guy.
Odd that any number can be put into this ^^^ paragraph, and used on forums such as this one. And yet, actual records / facts offer evidence that guns are used everyday to kill or maim a person, under varying circumstances.
Deaths and injury by gun shot are expensive ER interventions, and high speed projectiles do extensive damage to tissue and organs by tumbling upon impact. One who is honest understands why such weapons are used by those intent on killing masses of human beings with a weapon with less recoil and more effect on the target.
Whatever you say s0n...youve been wasting your breath on gun grabbing for what...50 years? I don't get it....
Once again you lie. And as usual the lie is an emotional response to facts. Or, you do not understand the fact of the nature of a wound made by a high velocity projectile?
FYI this thread is about banning rifles.If it's easier then why are knives and bare hands used to kill more people than rifles every year?
And Suicide is a choice but we all know how you hate it when people have choices
Yeah. It easier to kill with a knife than a gun. That’s perfect logic. Thanks for playing.
Then tell me why knives are used more often to kill than rifles.
Where are you getting your stats?
Murder - number of victims by weapons used 2016 | Statistic
Rifles? That’s a wonderful clarification that makes you a into an equivocating loser. So boring to talk to people who cannot be honest.
Just the FBI
Expanded Homicide Data Table 4
Just in case you can't read the table I will give you the salient poits
in 2016 homicides with rifles 374
with knives 1604
with fists/feet 656
So I'll ask you if it's so much easier to kill with a rifle (especially those scary black ones) why do murders with knives and/or fists outnumber murders with rifles?
You tell me? First of all you omitted how many were killed by hand guns, some of which are semi-autos. Then you've defined a defensive weapon, used in close quarters which require some athletic ability and/or skill.
In fact hand guns have been used by mass murderers, see:
101 California Street shooting - Wikipedia
If it's easier then why are knives and bare hands used to kill more people than rifles every year?
And Suicide is a choice but we all know how you hate it when people have choices
Yeah. It easier to kill with a knife than a gun. That’s perfect logic. Thanks for playing.
Then tell me why knives are used more often to kill than rifles.
Where are you getting your stats?
Murder - number of victims by weapons used 2016 | Statistic
Rifles? That’s a wonderful clarification that makes you a into an equivocating loser. So boring to talk to people who cannot be honest.
Just the FBI
Expanded Homicide Data Table 4
Just in case you can't read the table I will give you the salient poits
in 2016 homicides with rifles 374
with knives 1604
with fists/feet 656
So I'll ask you if it's so much easier to kill with a rifle (especially those scary black ones) why do murders with knives and/or fists outnumber murders with rifles?
You tell me? First of all you omitted how many were killed by hand guns, some of which are semi-autos. Then you've defined a defensive weapon, used in close quarters which require some athletic ability and/or skill.
In fact hand guns have been used by mass murderers, see:
101 California Street shooting - Wikipedia
Another fact, beatings by fist and a knife attack, generally, do less damage unless than a single gun shot from a high velocity weapon. Of course all of the above can be fatal, but the gun is less personal and much more effective when more than one victim is the target.
Yeah. It easier to kill with a knife than a gun. That’s perfect logic. Thanks for playing.
Then tell me why knives are used more often to kill than rifles.
Where are you getting your stats?
Murder - number of victims by weapons used 2016 | Statistic
Rifles? That’s a wonderful clarification that makes you a into an equivocating loser. So boring to talk to people who cannot be honest.
Just the FBI
Expanded Homicide Data Table 4
Just in case you can't read the table I will give you the salient poits
in 2016 homicides with rifles 374
with knives 1604
with fists/feet 656
So I'll ask you if it's so much easier to kill with a rifle (especially those scary black ones) why do murders with knives and/or fists outnumber murders with rifles?
You tell me? First of all you omitted how many were killed by hand guns, some of which are semi-autos. Then you've defined a defensive weapon, used in close quarters which require some athletic ability and/or skill.
In fact hand guns have been used by mass murderers, see:
101 California Street shooting - Wikipedia
Another fact, beatings by fist and a knife attack, generally, do less damage unless than a single gun shot from a high velocity weapon. Of course all of the above can be fatal, but the gun is less personal and much more effective when more than one victim is the target.
BTW, have you ever read a corner's report on a gun shot victim? I have, and what is readily apparent are secondary projectiles (bone fragments),which can be the fatal cause when they nick an artery - more likely when the faster projectile enters the body cavity.
Ffs. Enough of the gunsplaining.So a handgun in the hands of a practiced rapid reloader and shooter would be an assault weapon, but in the hands of a normal person it wouldn't be?
Yeah. It easier to kill with a knife than a gun. That’s perfect logic. Thanks for playing.
Then tell me why knives are used more often to kill than rifles.
Where are you getting your stats?
Murder - number of victims by weapons used 2016 | Statistic
Rifles? That’s a wonderful clarification that makes you a into an equivocating loser. So boring to talk to people who cannot be honest.
Just the FBI
Expanded Homicide Data Table 4
Just in case you can't read the table I will give you the salient poits
in 2016 homicides with rifles 374
with knives 1604
with fists/feet 656
So I'll ask you if it's so much easier to kill with a rifle (especially those scary black ones) why do murders with knives and/or fists outnumber murders with rifles?
You tell me? First of all you omitted how many were killed by hand guns, some of which are semi-autos. Then you've defined a defensive weapon, used in close quarters which require some athletic ability and/or skill.
In fact hand guns have been used by mass murderers, see:
101 California Street shooting - Wikipedia
FYI this thread is about banning rifles.
No it isn't. They are banning certain categories of semis. Read the damned legislation.A ban on semi-autos is a blanket ban. That is what that town in by Chicago is doing,
No it isn't. Semi automatic rifles are still permitted. In what chamber are you echoing?it a ban on a common and widely used mechanism for firearms, and is thus unconstitutional under the 2nd amendment.
No it isn't. They are banning certain categories of semis. Read the damned legislation.A ban on semi-autos is a blanket ban. That is what that town in by Chicago is doing,
It covers basically any semi-automatic with a detachable magazine.
That's all of them except for M-1's.
Then tell me why knives are used more often to kill than rifles.
Where are you getting your stats?
Murder - number of victims by weapons used 2016 | Statistic
Rifles? That’s a wonderful clarification that makes you a into an equivocating loser. So boring to talk to people who cannot be honest.
Just the FBI
Expanded Homicide Data Table 4
Just in case you can't read the table I will give you the salient poits
in 2016 homicides with rifles 374
with knives 1604
with fists/feet 656
So I'll ask you if it's so much easier to kill with a rifle (especially those scary black ones) why do murders with knives and/or fists outnumber murders with rifles?
You tell me? First of all you omitted how many were killed by hand guns, some of which are semi-autos. Then you've defined a defensive weapon, used in close quarters which require some athletic ability and/or skill.
In fact hand guns have been used by mass murderers, see:
101 California Street shooting - Wikipedia
FYI this thread is about banning rifles.
Correct, and my response is what is common in long guns and hand guns which use high velocity projectiles. Do you think the Tech-9 is any less effective than the AR 15 in most mass murders?
