This country is seriously fucked

[Samson]

I don't know what else to say when 45% of Americans and 44% of Democrats want to give the government the power to target American citizens with drones on American soil without any judicial review or due process at all.

Sad isn't it? Guess what, it doesn't get much better if they ask if the president should have the power to do this on his own.

Sorry about the picture being so small, the full poll is here. It turns out that this entire country loves drones, and almost no one cares if it kills a few innocents because that is better, and easier, than making sure we get the right person.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2013/03/04/fox-news-poll-majority-supports-use-drones/

80% of the republicans APPROVE OF THE DRONE KILLINGS.

Odd that your post failed to note that.

30. Do you approve or disapprove of the United States using unmanned aircraft called drones to kill a suspected terrorist in a foreign country?

...............Total.. Dem...Rep... Ind
Approve....74%. 69%... 80%.. 73%
Disapprove.22%.. 27% ..16% ..21%
(Don'tknow)4% .....3% ......3% ..6%​

The point is AMERICAN citizens IN AMERICA and by extention Americans abroad. So try and stay on point. 41 percent of democrats said it was OK to kill Americans in America only by the say so of the POTUS, that should scare you. One day you might be standing next to a Tea Party grandma when the POTUS decides to take that threat out.

Isn't question 30 like asking if you approve of using an F16???

Agreed, but the point is that Americans agree with the "preemptive" Bush Doctrine, that, given even the SUSPICION of immanent threat, the US President is ultimately responsible for protecting Americans, and therefore has a "license to kill."

Obviously, ANY president can abuse his authority, and this is why they are impeachable.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

If there is a terrorist on U.S. soil and we know in fact that is a terrorist, why to send a drone? Why don't we use those 2700 MARP's along with 1.6 billion bullets to simply catch him?

As I posted yesterday they are building, modifying, a base just for drones in California, why? It is softening us, all they need is an attack somewhere and that will be their pretext for taking us to total control.

That's what Porky Limbaugh said, huh?​

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

I don't know what else to say when 45% of Americans and 44% of Democrats want to give the government the power to target American citizens with drones on American soil without any judicial review or due process at all.

BUHCO decided they were entitled to view everyone's e-mail.

Maybe the conservative response applies, here, as well


"If you're not doing anything, wrong, what're you WORRIED-about???"


[/CENTER]

Only a left wing liberal who belongs to the Democrat Party would equate reading emails to killing American citizens, in America or elsewhere.

Unless it's in Iraq or Afgan or any other country that ends with "stan" under the holy Bush Administration, right?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

If there is a terrorist on U.S. soil and we know in fact that is a terrorist, why to send a drone? Why don't we use those 2700 MARP's along with 1.6 billion bullets to simply catch him?

As I posted yesterday they are building, modifying, a base just for drones in California, why? It is softening us, all they need is an attack somewhere and that will be their pretext for taking us to total control.

That's what Porky Limbaugh said, huh?​

No, it was reported here.

Controversies - Navy Considers Putting a Drone Base at Point Mugu - Ca - News

 

[Mr. Shaman]

As I posted yesterday they are building, modifying, a base just for drones in California, why? It is softening us, all they need is an attack somewhere and that will be their pretext for taking us to total control.

That's what Porky Limbaugh said, huh?​

No, it was reported here.

Controversies - Navy Considers Putting a Drone Base at Point Mugu - Ca - News

You're (obviously) a "little" confused about the schedule.....​

 

[LordBrownTrout]

That's what Porky Limbaugh said, huh?​

No, it was reported here.

Controversies - Navy Considers Putting a Drone Base at Point Mugu - Ca - News

You're (obviously) a "little" confused about the schedule.....​

Who am I kidding?! You can quote limbaugh word for word. I must be confused.

 

[Freewill]

That's hardly an excuse for the Republicans to ignore the safety of the country. What does any of that have to do with them denigrating everything Clinton did to try and stop terrorism?

I am not sure what is being denigrated? He didn't do much in my opinon. Maybe 72 days of terror bombing Serbia??

He bombed Afghanistan, Iraq and the Sudan, too. That's what I was talking about. Serbia was another story. The action over Kosovo didn't cost a single American life.

Only three Chinese.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Not arguing but discussing the details. Had Clinton not sexually harrasshed so many women then none of what happened would have happened. It was not Monica that brought suit she merely was the reason he was caught lying. Why his lying was important was because his past boorish behavior was in question. It was Paula Jones that brought suit and settled for a large sum of money. I am not surprised at how many democrats don't know the facts of what happened. All they keep chanting is that it was over a BJ in the Oval office, which is very far from the truth.

The sad thing is ....I miss the good ol days with clinton. Compared to obama he was genius.
And I have to admit. If I was the pres I'm not sure I could resist that temptation.
It must have been pretty heady.....

In my opinion you miss the Republican Congress. Clinton damaged this country that were unseen until now.

Some truth to that. At least he wasn't so obvious when he was fucken us.
Obama leaves the light on.

 

[AmericanFirst]

I don't know what else to say when 45% of Americans and 44% of Democrats want to give the government the power to target American citizens with drones on American soil without any judicial review or due process at all.

Sad isn't it? Guess what, it doesn't get much better if they ask if the president should have the power to do this on his own.

Sorry about the picture being so small, the full poll is here. It turns out that this entire country loves drones, and almost no one cares if it kills a few innocents because that is better, and easier, than making sure we get the right person.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2013/03/04/fox-news-poll-majority-supports-use-drones/

How much more proof do the libtards need to know their hero obamaturd is a socialist?

 

[AmericanFirst]

No, it was reported here.

Controversies - Navy Considers Putting a Drone Base at Point Mugu - Ca - News

You're (obviously) a "little" confused about the schedule.....​

Who am I kidding?! You can quote limbaugh word for word. I must be confused.

No, you are not. Mrs shameass just is off her meds.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

It the country is "seriously fucked" it isn't because of a poll. It's that basic honesty has been sacrificed to try to make some sort of cheap point.

YOUR GRAPHIC above....

47% of the respondents identifying themselves as republican responded to the affirmative ..a full 3% HIGHER than the percentage of democrats...yet somehow in your commentary it becomes some sort of indictment of democrats?

The subjugation of honesty to attempt to make a point is pretty sad

That is a statistical tie in a poll with a +/- pf 3 points. Last time I looked Democrats were supposed to be the people who are opposed to government killing people. I expect Republicans to be all gung ho about war and killing, pointing out that Democrats are just as fucking bad just shows how fucked the country is.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

see what pumping fear as a poltical tool does?


The right wanted Americans to be driven by fear after 911.

It helped them sell wars on lies and get more republicans elected

The right is wrong, now the left is wrong.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I don't know what else to say when 45% of Americans and 44% of Democrats want to give the government the power to target American citizens with drones on American soil without any judicial review or due process at all.

Sad isn't it? Guess what, it doesn't get much better if they ask if the president should have the power to do this on his own.

Sorry about the picture being so small, the full poll is here. It turns out that this entire country loves drones, and almost no one cares if it kills a few innocents because that is better, and easier, than making sure we get the right person.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2013/03/04/fox-news-poll-majority-supports-use-drones/

80% of the republicans APPROVE OF THE DRONE KILLINGS.

Odd that your post failed to note that.

30. Do you approve or disapprove of the United States using unmanned aircraft called drones to kill a suspected terrorist in a foreign country?

...............Total.. Dem...Rep... Ind
Approve....74%. 69%... 80%.. 73%
Disapprove.22%.. 27% ..16% ..21%
(Don'tknow)4% .....3% ......3% ..6%​

Since I have consistently argued against using drones in this forum, even if I were a Republican I would be in the 20% that oppose it. I always thought that Democrats had better sense on issues like this, now I know I was wrong, and the country is fucked.

 

[boedicca]

This is the logical result when public schools no longer instruct students on the history and role of The Constitution.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

If there is a terrorist on U.S. soil and we know in fact that is a terrorist, why to send a drone? Why don't we use those 2700 MARP's along with 1.6 billion bullets to simply catch him?

... cuz he bought several military assault weapons and many 100 round drums.

Legally.

NRA wants to arm terrorists.

 

[boedicca]

If there is a terrorist on U.S. soil and we know in fact that is a terrorist, why to send a drone? Why don't we use those 2700 MARP's along with 1.6 billion bullets to simply catch him?

... cuz he bought several military assault weapons and many 100 round drums.

Legally.

NRA wants to arm terrorists.

[Rhetorical Question]Could you possibly be a stupider moron?[/Rhetorical Question]

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I don't know what else to say when 45% of Americans and 44% of Democrats want to give the government the power to target American citizens with drones on American soil without any judicial review or due process at all.

Sad isn't it? Guess what, it doesn't get much better if they ask if the president should have the power to do this on his own.

Sorry about the picture being so small, the full poll is here. It turns out that this entire country loves drones, and almost no one cares if it kills a few innocents because that is better, and easier, than making sure we get the right person.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2013/03/04/fox-news-poll-majority-supports-use-drones/

80% of the republicans APPROVE OF THE DRONE KILLINGS.

Odd that your post failed to note that.

30. Do you approve or disapprove of the United States using unmanned aircraft called drones to kill a suspected terrorist in a foreign country?

...............Total.. Dem...Rep... Ind
Approve....74%. 69%... 80%.. 73%
Disapprove.22%.. 27% ..16% ..21%
(Don'tknow)4% .....3% ......3% ..6%​

Since I have consistently argued against using drones in this forum, even if I were a Republican I would be in the 20% that oppose it. I always thought that Democrats had better sense on issues like this, now I know I was wrong, and the country is fucked.

When compared to $$TRILLIONS spent and MILLIONS killed and maimed, YEP, smart people do prefer (NOT love) drones.

You already knew this.

Interesting that the usual hacks can't come up with anything better. When you can, come back and post it. I'd really love to hear it because, in fact, I don't like drones. I DO prefer them.

See the difference?

 

[boedicca]

When was the last time the U.S. government spent $$Trillions and killed Millions of people apprehending a U.S. citizen suspected of terrorism within the U.S.?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

When was the last time the U.S. government spent $$Trillions and killed Millions of people apprehending a U.S. citizen suspected of terrorism within the U.S.?

Sorry, I should have been more clear that drones do not cost what war costs.

 

[boedicca]

Ah, so now you want Obama to be able to declare war on domestic terrorists?

Really?