This is Why Blacks Don't Listen to Black Sellouts

[Paul Essien]

@andaronjim

And you know what's funny. Most black people are actually conservative in their views. That is most black people believe in Individual Freedom, Limited Government, The Rule of Law, Peace through Strength, Fiscal Responsibility, Free Markets.

However white supremacy and racism runs through all conservative values in this system

 

[IM2]

"In the late 1800s, depending on the city, 70% to 80% of black households were two-parent. Dr. Thomas Sowell has argued, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. “ For the purpose of enabling each State to furnish financial assistance, as far as practicable under the conditions in such State, to needy dependent children, there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, the sum of $24,750,000, and there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for each fiscal year thereafter a sum sufficient to carry out the purposes of this title. The sums made available under this section shall be used for making payments to States which have submitted, and had approved by the Board, State plans for aid to dependent children.”

This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Seems that Sowell is unable to point this out and in fact this is part of long tradition of taking care of poor single parent white families.

Aid to Dependent Children or ADC (later renamed Aid to Families with Dependent Children, AFDC) was Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1935. At first it functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states maintain their mothers’ aid laws that had been passed in 40 states between 1910 and 1920. With the federal government providing 1/3 of costs, the program offered aid to poor parents, imagined at that time to be always female, caring for children without a husband.

The ADC plan was written by the former directors of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in the Department of Labor, Grace Abbott and Katherine Lenroot. They lobbied hard to get this program added to the Social Security bill, which was aimed at male breadwinners, reflecting the masculinist assumptions and composition of the Committee on Economic Security (CES) that wrote the bill. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers lacked the support of a breadwinner, no matter how they got to that position.

Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

For its first three decades, AFDC operated much like a private charity, with its case workers given discretion in investigating clients, cutting off benefits to those determined to be unsuitable, a…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

Children’s Bureau

Written by Kriste Lindenmeyer, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County. The establishment of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in 1912 marked a high point in the effort by ma…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

From the time of the Childrens Bureau until 1965 no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and subsisided the disintegration of the white family. It was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant about the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Nobody serious in the black community respects Thomas Sowell. No-one

Name black people like Thomas Sowell from the 1950's and 1960 that are remembered and homoured by people ?

I'll wait.

But you know who the fk who is MLK was.
You know who the FK who Malcolm X was.
You know who the FK who the black panthers were.
You know who the fk who Rosa Parks was.
You know who the FK who Nelson Mandela was.

Why ? Coz they stood up and fought were not afraid to die. T

For people who don't know who Thomas Sowell is. Let me bring some clarity.

Thomas Sowell is a black man who is a senior fellow at The Hoover Institute which is a white supremacist think tank.

Thomas Sowell also thinks that the book "The Bell Curve" (The white supremacist bible which is a book that basically tries to prove how stupid blk ppl are) is a good well written book.

Thomas Sowell is retired. He's a 90 year old man. He's made enough money from hustling the white supremacists by articulating their racist views for them.

It's the oldest play in the Book of White Eddicts: use a black man to condone and excuse or cover for racist actions by white people. Because if a black man agrees, it can't possibly be racist.

I bet you only talk for the black community that is uneducated in the inner cities...Most of my friend who live in Baltimore and Cheverly Maryland, in the respectable neighborhoods think very highly of Thomas, while thinking pretty lowly of you race baiters...

You don't know any educated blacks who live anywhere.

 

[IM2]

I know the facts about the filibuster rule and the FACT that escapes you is that regardless of the southern democrat fillibuster, the majority of democrats voted for the civil rights act and more democrats did than republicans. Southern republicans opposed Civil rights and the 1964 Republican presidential nominee opposed civil rights. These are FACTS that you choose to ignore in order to blame democrats for racism that has been bi-partisan.

When those like you talk about race based policy, start with the constitution. Stop pretending that race based policies began in the 1960's.

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Sweetie ... You ought to know by now that I am not particularly fond of Republicans either.

If you want to beat up on me about something ... I do own a copy of Black Rednecks and White Liberals by Thomas Sowell.
I know the works of Marx and Ingalls as well ... And own a copy of the Communist Manifesto.

Of course if you want to make the mistake that means I am a Marxist, you couldn't be more incorrect.

.​

You really need to stop reading Sowell. He's an idiot.

I don't call people Marxists because they read Marx. I've read Marx and the manifesto too.

Interesting that an idiot would call a very intelligent person and idiot......

Sowell is an idiot. To you he's intelligent because he tells you what you want to hrar.

I had the great pleasure of taking an Economics class with Thomas Sowell at Amherst College. He was by FAR the most intelligent of any of the Economics professors that I took classes with. You hate him because he tells you something you don't want to hear!

Lefties always hate people smarter than they are. They're indoctrinated, so an educated person is a real threat. Those of us that are lifetime students and truth seekers enjoy learning. Lefties don't. Too much work.

Wrong. I have both a bachelors and masters in social science and not economics. Plus now 36 years of continuous study and research. Sowell is an economist, his views on the matters affecting blacks shows he has not done any study. Indoctrinated is you and you damn sure aren't seeking any truth. Deep study and critical evaluation are 2 things not done by the right. Simple minds like yours tries to find simple and easy answers.

Not economics? So you don't know economics and Thomas Sowell has taught it at some of the most prestigious universities in the country...but you think you know more than he does? Amusing...really... (eye roll)

Thomas Sowell is a fucking idiot. Understand? I don't give a damn where he taught, His assertions about blacks are incorrect and the only reason you defend him as opposed to those who are accurate like Michael Dyson, Jelani Cobb Lani Guinier, or the or the lady at the lady at the 1619 Project is because he says shit you want to believe about blacks. There are people who don't get paid to teach who know more than those who do. I have studied some economics but I have worked in the black community and Sowell has not. Those 3 -100 year old black survivors of Tulsa know more about these issues than me or Sowell and not one of them have a framed piece of paper hanging up on their wall.

Sowell is a dumb ass with no clue of the cause of the problems in the black community. Neither do you. Single parent families are not it. Now I showed you where welfare in the form of payments to single women with children existed for at least 55 years before blacks got benefits and these were the same times that the two idiots in the OP described as when the black family was supposed to be so great. I showed you that poverty in the black community was 2-3 times higher and that in fact crime is lower now than in those same great days those 2 idiots were talking about.

You cannot provide evidence that disputes any of it. So yes, I have shown that I know more than Sowell, which really is not that hard.

This idiot has been my latest to be put on ignore...I just cant take that stupidity anymore...

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You need to ignore people like Sowell.

 

[Turtlesoup]

if there is no black father, it's an 80 percent chance the son will be: 1) broke sitting under a tree or 2) in jail or 3) dead

A black man without a father served 2 terms as president. None of what you said is true white boy. Concern yourself with the huge problems in the white community such as daddy living at home molesting his son or daughter.

Black man without a father was up till Biden the worst president ever---just a druggy puppet who aided terrorists.

 

[IM2]

Thomas Sowell earned at least 2 million dollars in grants from right wing foundations who financed his salary and research for his anti black bullshit. White racists made this man a comfortable living and not one of you racists who slurp on his dick can name one initiative e started in black communities to create a solution. Yet you white idiots tell us how he is one to listen to. I have more respect for Robert Woodson and he's a sellout, but at least he used money from right wingers to establish economic development programs.

 

[IM2]

if there is no black father, it's an 80 percent chance the son will be: 1) broke sitting under a tree or 2) in jail or 3) dead

A black man without a father served 2 terms as president. None of what you said is true white boy. Concern yourself with the huge problems in the white community such as daddy living at home molesting his son or daughter.

Black man without a father was up till Biden the worst president ever---just a druggy puppet who aided terrorists.

The worst president ever was trump. G.W. Bush is second.

 

[BlackSand]

BS. You guys don't want to have an honest conversation. Mainly because your side of the conversation is filled with untruths that you will want to argue. And I am not talking about political parties, because Democrats have not divided anyone, that is the republican defense for not wanting to face contiuing racism and you say you are not a republican. This is about the refusal of WHITES to listen. It is bi-partisan, but at the highest level, democrats have done a better job. But not good enough. 1 may be better than 0, but both are low numbers.

This nation has never been united and it's time to drop the pretense that it ever has been. That would be a start towards the very tough conversation that must be had.

.

I knew you never wanted to have the conversation ... Which is what I said in the place.
You telling me it is BS, then doing exactly what I said you would do ... Just makes you look kind of silly.

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[Oldestyle]

I know the facts about the filibuster rule and the FACT that escapes you is that regardless of the southern democrat fillibuster, the majority of democrats voted for the civil rights act and more democrats did than republicans. Southern republicans opposed Civil rights and the 1964 Republican presidential nominee opposed civil rights. These are FACTS that you choose to ignore in order to blame democrats for racism that has been bi-partisan.

When those like you talk about race based policy, start with the constitution. Stop pretending that race based policies began in the 1960's.

.

Sweetie ... You ought to know by now that I am not particularly fond of Republicans either.

If you want to beat up on me about something ... I do own a copy of Black Rednecks and White Liberals by Thomas Sowell.
I know the works of Marx and Ingalls as well ... And own a copy of the Communist Manifesto.

Of course if you want to make the mistake that means I am a Marxist, you couldn't be more incorrect.

.​

You really need to stop reading Sowell. He's an idiot.

I don't call people Marxists because they read Marx. I've read Marx and the manifesto too.

Interesting that an idiot would call a very intelligent person and idiot......

Sowell is an idiot. To you he's intelligent because he tells you what you want to hrar.

I had the great pleasure of taking an Economics class with Thomas Sowell at Amherst College. He was by FAR the most intelligent of any of the Economics professors that I took classes with. You hate him because he tells you something you don't want to hear!

Lefties always hate people smarter than they are. They're indoctrinated, so an educated person is a real threat. Those of us that are lifetime students and truth seekers enjoy learning. Lefties don't. Too much work.

Wrong. I have both a bachelors and masters in social science and not economics. Plus now 36 years of continuous study and research. Sowell is an economist, his views on the matters affecting blacks shows he has not done any study. Indoctrinated is you and you damn sure aren't seeking any truth. Deep study and critical evaluation are 2 things not done by the right. Simple minds like yours tries to find simple and easy answers.

Not economics? So you don't know economics and Thomas Sowell has taught it at some of the most prestigious universities in the country...but you think you know more than he does? Amusing...really... (eye roll)

Thomas Sowell is a fucking idiot. Understand? I don't give a damn where he taught, His assertions about blacks are incorrect and the only reason you defend him as opposed to those who are accurate like Michael Dyson, Jelani Cobb Lani Guinier, or the or the lady at the lady at the 1619 Project is because he says shit you want to believe about blacks. There are people who don't get paid to teach who know more than those who do. I have studied some economics but I have worked in the black community and Sowell has not. Those 3 -100 year old black survivors of Tulsa know more about these issues than me or Sowell and not one of them have a framed piece of paper hanging up on their wall.

Sowell is a dumb ass with no clue of the cause of the problems in the black community. Neither do you. Single parent families are not it. Now I showed you where welfare in the form of payments to single women with children existed for at least 55 years before blacks got benefits and these were the same times that the two idiots in the OP described as when the black family was supposed to be so great. I showed you that poverty in the black community was 2-3 times higher and that in fact crime is lower now than in those same great days those 2 idiots were talking about.

You cannot provide evidence that disputes any of it. So yes, I have shown that I know more than Sowell, which really is not that hard.

From your reply it's obvious that you know as little about Thomas Sowell as you do about Economics! He hasn't worked in the black community? He grew up in Gastonia, North Carolina...a town with so few white people that he says he didn't known that blonde was a hair color because he'd never seen it! He had to drop out of high school at 17 because his family was too poor to send him. He moved from there to Harlem in New York City. His first college was Howard University! Thomas Sowell isn't some "preppie" black man who grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth surrounded by white people like you've assumed! His early life was exactly the opposite of that!

 

[Canon Shooter]

AZrailwhale
What fools like you don’t understand, it that you can’t DEMAND equality, you have to earn it each and every day by taking whatever life throws at you and overcoming it to achieve success. Equality cant and won’t be handed to you

Fk outta here. Black people should not have to work harder. Why are white people so inferior that blk ppl should just accept the headstart whites have and work harder ?

Where, exactly, did he say silly negroes like you should work harder? I've read his comment six times and it's not there.

Admit it: You're just afraid of work...

Black people built the USA. Trump admits this. Reparations in the form of CASH PAYMENTS.

So, all of a sudden you're a Trump fan?

Everybody else has got their slice of te cake

I've busted my white ass my entire fucking life for what I have...

Reparations was also given to the HEIRS of the Japanese who we’re interned. So the same should be done for the heirs of Black American slaves

The American racist has taken part in the slaughter of over 50,000,000 Black people; therefore repatriations is a modest demand.

Reparations Package should start off at 40 Trillion.

[/QUOTE]

Since you bring up the Japanese (and I agree, that was horrible), let's use their numbers.

According to you, each individual, or that person's heirs, was given an equal portion of $3.39 billion. That equates to $41,231.35 per person.

That's what you'll get, m'kay?

That would be $Imillion going to every Foundational Black American who’s lineage traces back to the American slave trade that was enforced by the government Those payments can be dispersed in increments of $16k a month for 5 years

The US Government never "enforced" the slave trade. It may have permitted it to happen, but it played no role in ensuring there were fresh negroes on the auction block...

Meanwile North Carolina gave $846 million in taxpayer funds to white owned and run Apple (worth $2.3 trillion) to build a mainly white campus there. White owned and run Amazon (worth $1.7T) got $3.8B in subsidies across the U.S. When people get free money, it's "welfare." When white corporations do, it's "incentives."

26.5% of Amazon employees are black. Where is your evidence that the new campus will be "mainly white"?

AZrailwhale
Get an education, dress for success, speak general American, go to work every day on time, do your best at every job and work at being a productive member of society.

And after all that still find that white criminals are prefferred over black men that are clean

Because no one wants to hire colored boys like you who whine all the time.

A previous poster nailed it: You're not interested in equality and you're not interested in fairness. You're interested in revenge. You're all too willing to destroy the progress black have made in order to get it. Well, no one's done anything to you, so you're due no revenge. But, if that's what you want, Buckwheat, you're gonna' have to take it.

And you and I both know that negroes like you are too cowardly to do that...

 

[Oldestyle]

@andaronjim
I bet you only talk for the black community that is uneducated in the inner cities.

Black people don't fk with Thomas Sowell. He's just a white ass kissing fool.

@andaronjim​

Most of my friend who live in Baltimore and Cheverly Maryland, in the respectable neighborhoods think very highly of Thomas, while thinking pretty lowly of you race baiters.​

Is that supposed to impress me ?

I hate to break this to you, Paul but Thomas Sowell has more intelligence in his little finger than you have in your entire body! He's never kissed white's asses. He's simply refused to kowtow to the Left's ridiculous narrative about black limitations.

 

[Canon Shooter]

"In the late 1800s, depending on the city, 70% to 80% of black households were two-parent. Dr. Thomas Sowell has argued, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. “ For the purpose of enabling each State to furnish financial assistance, as far as practicable under the conditions in such State, to needy dependent children, there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, the sum of $24,750,000, and there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for each fiscal year thereafter a sum sufficient to carry out the purposes of this title. The sums made available under this section shall be used for making payments to States which have submitted, and had approved by the Board, State plans for aid to dependent children.”

This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Seems that Sowell is unable to point this out and in fact this is part of long tradition of taking care of poor single parent white families.

Aid to Dependent Children or ADC (later renamed Aid to Families with Dependent Children, AFDC) was Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1935. At first it functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states maintain their mothers’ aid laws that had been passed in 40 states between 1910 and 1920. With the federal government providing 1/3 of costs, the program offered aid to poor parents, imagined at that time to be always female, caring for children without a husband.

The ADC plan was written by the former directors of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in the Department of Labor, Grace Abbott and Katherine Lenroot. They lobbied hard to get this program added to the Social Security bill, which was aimed at male breadwinners, reflecting the masculinist assumptions and composition of the Committee on Economic Security (CES) that wrote the bill. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers lacked the support of a breadwinner, no matter how they got to that position.

Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

For its first three decades, AFDC operated much like a private charity, with its case workers given discretion in investigating clients, cutting off benefits to those determined to be unsuitable, a…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

Children’s Bureau

Written by Kriste Lindenmeyer, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County. The establishment of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in 1912 marked a high point in the effort by ma…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

From the time of the Childrens Bureau until 1965 no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and subsisided the disintegration of the white family. It was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant about the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Nobody serious in the black community respects Thomas Sowell. No-one

Name black people like Thomas Sowell from the 1950's and 1960 that are remembered and homoured by people ?

I'll wait.

But you know who the fk who is MLK was.
You know who the FK who Malcolm X was.
You know who the FK who the black panthers were.
You know who the fk who Rosa Parks was.
You know who the FK who Nelson Mandela was.

Why ? Coz they stood up and fought were not afraid to die. T

For people who don't know who Thomas Sowell is. Let me bring some clarity.

Thomas Sowell is a black man who is a senior fellow at The Hoover Institute which is a white supremacist think tank.

Thomas Sowell also thinks that the book "The Bell Curve" (The white supremacist bible which is a book that basically tries to prove how stupid blk ppl are) is a good well written book.

Thomas Sowell is retired. He's a 90 year old man. He's made enough money from hustling the white supremacists by articulating their racist views for them.

It's the oldest play in the Book of White Eddicts: use a black man to condone and excuse or cover for racist actions by white people. Because if a black man agrees, it can't possibly be racist.

I bet you only talk for the black community that is uneducated in the inner cities...Most of my friend who live in Baltimore and Cheverly Maryland, in the respectable neighborhoods think very highly of Thomas, while thinking pretty lowly of you race baiters...

You don't know any educated blacks who live anywhere.

My neighbor's an educated black man.

I do not, however, know any educated negroes...

 

[Canon Shooter]

and not one of you racists who slurp on his dick can name one initiative e started in black communities to create a solution.

Hey, if you colored fucks refuse to do it, why should anyone else?

 

[NoNukes]

There is “stuff“ that society provides for We the People
That includes poor people, working people and wealthy people

“Society” does not provide it.

Honest people work hard to earn it; and then it is taken from them and given to others who did nothing to earn it.

“Society” cannot give anything to anyone, without first taking it from those to whom it rightfully belongs.

Society helps those who need it. More employment is needed for the poor and they will pay their way.

 

[NoNukes]

"In the late 1800s, depending on the city, 70% to 80% of black households were two-parent. Dr. Thomas Sowell has argued, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. “ For the purpose of enabling each State to furnish financial assistance, as far as practicable under the conditions in such State, to needy dependent children, there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, the sum of $24,750,000, and there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for each fiscal year thereafter a sum sufficient to carry out the purposes of this title. The sums made available under this section shall be used for making payments to States which have submitted, and had approved by the Board, State plans for aid to dependent children.”

This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Seems that Sowell is unable to point this out and in fact this is part of long tradition of taking care of poor single parent white families.

Aid to Dependent Children or ADC (later renamed Aid to Families with Dependent Children, AFDC) was Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1935. At first it functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states maintain their mothers’ aid laws that had been passed in 40 states between 1910 and 1920. With the federal government providing 1/3 of costs, the program offered aid to poor parents, imagined at that time to be always female, caring for children without a husband.

The ADC plan was written by the former directors of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in the Department of Labor, Grace Abbott and Katherine Lenroot. They lobbied hard to get this program added to the Social Security bill, which was aimed at male breadwinners, reflecting the masculinist assumptions and composition of the Committee on Economic Security (CES) that wrote the bill. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers lacked the support of a breadwinner, no matter how they got to that position.

Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

For its first three decades, AFDC operated much like a private charity, with its case workers given discretion in investigating clients, cutting off benefits to those determined to be unsuitable, a…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

Children’s Bureau

Written by Kriste Lindenmeyer, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County. The establishment of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in 1912 marked a high point in the effort by ma…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

From the time of the Childrens Bureau until 1965 no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and subsisided the disintegration of the white family. It was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant about the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Facts!

Black Americans' biggest problem remains racism via government policies and culture from the dominant white society.

Yet you continue to vote for the very people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who keep you poor...Notice how you gasoline prices have gone up, sure isnt making you rich, notice how the taxes are going up, sure isnt making you rich...I used to feel sorry for the poor, but when they vote for the very people who keep them poor, i just laugh at their stupidity...

Another Blacks are too stupid to know what is good for them post? I bet you claim to not be a racist.

 

[NoNukes]

"In the late 1800s, depending on the city, 70% to 80% of black households were two-parent. Dr. Thomas Sowell has argued, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. “ For the purpose of enabling each State to furnish financial assistance, as far as practicable under the conditions in such State, to needy dependent children, there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, the sum of $24,750,000, and there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for each fiscal year thereafter a sum sufficient to carry out the purposes of this title. The sums made available under this section shall be used for making payments to States which have submitted, and had approved by the Board, State plans for aid to dependent children.”

This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Seems that Sowell is unable to point this out and in fact this is part of long tradition of taking care of poor single parent white families.

Aid to Dependent Children or ADC (later renamed Aid to Families with Dependent Children, AFDC) was Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1935. At first it functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states maintain their mothers’ aid laws that had been passed in 40 states between 1910 and 1920. With the federal government providing 1/3 of costs, the program offered aid to poor parents, imagined at that time to be always female, caring for children without a husband.

The ADC plan was written by the former directors of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in the Department of Labor, Grace Abbott and Katherine Lenroot. They lobbied hard to get this program added to the Social Security bill, which was aimed at male breadwinners, reflecting the masculinist assumptions and composition of the Committee on Economic Security (CES) that wrote the bill. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers lacked the support of a breadwinner, no matter how they got to that position.

Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

For its first three decades, AFDC operated much like a private charity, with its case workers given discretion in investigating clients, cutting off benefits to those determined to be unsuitable, a…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

Children’s Bureau

Written by Kriste Lindenmeyer, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County. The establishment of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in 1912 marked a high point in the effort by ma…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

From the time of the Childrens Bureau until 1965 no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and subsisided the disintegration of the white family. It was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant about the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Facts!

Black Americans' biggest problem remains racism via government policies and culture from the dominant white society.

Yet you continue to vote for the very people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who keep you poor...Notice how you gasoline prices have gone up, sure isnt making you rich, notice how the taxes are going up, sure isnt making you rich...I used to feel sorry for the poor, but when they vote for the very people who keep them poor, i just laugh at their stupidity...

Now you're just a dumb ass. For you to actually believe that shows you have a supreme mental disibility. If the republican party offered something better we'd vote republican. You motherfuckers are trying to make it harder for us to vote and you're trying to tell us that stale ass lie you right wing racist punks repeat every day. Why in the FUCK would I join a party full of white USMB members?

Now stop lying about why gas prices are going up and stop lying about taxes. The only people working to make us poorer are republicans and we would be extremely stupid to support the Anglo Saxon Heritage Caucus.

Republicans had the black vote for 60 years.
Then they sold them out for the southern conservative vote

Yes, blacks were republicans for 100 years. Then they nominated Goldwater and that was the lat straw.

Blacks started to migrate to Democrats under FDR
Why? Because his programs helped them.

They supported JFK for the same reason

Once LBJ passed Civil Rights legislation, Blacks became firm Democrats and Republicans scrambled to recruit disgruntled white racists

I know this. It is what my parents told me, and I saw what happened with Golwater myself.

Blacks left the republican party because Hoover lied to Robert Moton about him possibly getting a job in his administration. But some blacks hung on until 1964. In fact there are blacks who are republicans today who will tell you they do so because of Lincoln. I guess it's fine to hold a white person from the past to current standards when it's favorable.

Lincoln thought that Black people were inferior to White people.

 

[rightwinger]

Lincoln thought that Black people were inferior to White people.

Very few thought otherwise in his day.
But Lincoln thought blacks should be compensated for their labor. He thought slavery was an abomination. He was willing to stand up and say so.....not many at the time were willing to say so

 

[BS Filter]

I know the facts about the filibuster rule and the FACT that escapes you is that regardless of the southern democrat fillibuster, the majority of democrats voted for the civil rights act and more democrats did than republicans. Southern republicans opposed Civil rights and the 1964 Republican presidential nominee opposed civil rights. These are FACTS that you choose to ignore in order to blame democrats for racism that has been bi-partisan.

When those like you talk about race based policy, start with the constitution. Stop pretending that race based policies began in the 1960's.

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Sweetie ... You ought to know by now that I am not particularly fond of Republicans either.

If you want to beat up on me about something ... I do own a copy of Black Rednecks and White Liberals by Thomas Sowell.
I know the works of Marx and Ingalls as well ... And own a copy of the Communist Manifesto.

Of course if you want to make the mistake that means I am a Marxist, you couldn't be more incorrect.

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You really need to stop reading Sowell. He's an idiot.

I don't call people Marxists because they read Marx. I've read Marx and the manifesto too.

Interesting that an idiot would call a very intelligent person and idiot......

Sowell is an idiot. To you he's intelligent because he tells you what you want to hrar.

I had the great pleasure of taking an Economics class with Thomas Sowell at Amherst College. He was by FAR the most intelligent of any of the Economics professors that I took classes with. You hate him because he tells you something you don't want to hear!

Lefties always hate people smarter than they are. They're indoctrinated, so an educated person is a real threat. Those of us that are lifetime students and truth seekers enjoy learning. Lefties don't. Too much work.

Wrong. I have both a bachelors and masters in social science and not economics. Plus now 36 years of continuous study and research. Sowell is an economist, his views on the matters affecting blacks shows he has not done any study. Indoctrinated is you and you damn sure aren't seeking any truth. Deep study and critical evaluation are 2 things not done by the right. Simple minds like yours tries to find simple and easy answers.

Not economics? So you don't know economics and Thomas Sowell has taught it at some of the most prestigious universities in the country...but you think you know more than he does? Amusing...really... (eye roll)

Thomas Sowell is a fucking idiot. Understand? I don't give a damn where he taught, His assertions about blacks are incorrect and the only reason you defend him as opposed to those who are accurate like Michael Dyson, Jelani Cobb Lani Guinier, or the or the lady at the lady at the 1619 Project is because he says shit you want to believe about blacks. There are people who don't get paid to teach who know more than those who do. I have studied some economics but I have worked in the black community and Sowell has not. Those 3 -100 year old black survivors of Tulsa know more about these issues than me or Sowell and not one of them have a framed piece of paper hanging up on their wall.

Sowell is a dumb ass with no clue of the cause of the problems in the black community. Neither do you. Single parent families are not it. Now I showed you where welfare in the form of payments to single women with children existed for at least 55 years before blacks got benefits and these were the same times that the two idiots in the OP described as when the black family was supposed to be so great. I showed you that poverty in the black community was 2-3 times higher and that in fact crime is lower now than in those same great days those 2 idiots were talking about.

You cannot provide evidence that disputes any of it. So yes, I have shown that I know more than Sowell, which really is not that hard.

So you're admitting that you still want the white man to be your master and pay for your housing, clothing, food, medical expenses and general welfare and you'll vote for whoever he tells you to. Sounds like you're still a slave.

 

[BS Filter]

Lincoln thought that Black people were inferior to White people.

Very few thought otherwise in his day.
But Lincoln thought blacks should be compensated for their labor. He thought slavery was an abomination. He was willing to stand up and say so.....not many at the time were willing to say so

Agree. Tell us, which political party did Lincoln belong to.

 

[rightwinger]

Lincoln thought that Black people were inferior to White people.

Very few thought otherwise in his day.
But Lincoln thought blacks should be compensated for their labor. He thought slavery was an abomination. He was willing to stand up and say so.....not many at the time were willing to say so

Agree. Tell us, which political party did Lincoln belong to.

Lincoln was one of the original Republicans
Back in the day when Republicans actually cared about people above the interests of big business.

 

[BlackSand]

Very few thought otherwise in his day.
But Lincoln thought blacks should be compensated for their labor. He thought slavery was an abomination. He was willing to stand up and say so.....not many at the time were willing to say so

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Lincoln did hate slavery ...

"Evident truth. Made so plain by our good Father in Heaven, that all feel and understand it, even down to brutes and creeping insects. The ant, who has toiled and dragged a crumb to his nest, will furiously defend the fruit of his labor, against whatever robber assails him. So plain, that the most dumb and stupid slave that ever toiled for a master, does constantly know that he is wronged. So plain that no one, high or low, ever does mistake it, except in a plainly selfish way; for although volume upon volume is written to prove slavery a very good thing, we never hear of the man who wishes to take the good of it, by being a slave himself.

Most governments have been based, practically, on the denial of the equal rights of men, as I have, in part, stated them; ours began, by affirming those rights. They said, some men are too ignorant, and vicious, to share in government. Possibly so, said we; and, by your system, you would always keep them ignorant and vicious. We proposed to give all a chance; and we expected the weak to grow stronger, the ignorant, wiser; and all better, and happier together.

We made the experiment; and the fruit is before us. Look at it. Think of it. Look at it, in its aggregate grandeur, of extent of country, and numbers of population, of ship, and steamboat, and rail~"

And he was a racist, by the truest definition ...

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality… I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied every thing."

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