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Thomas Paine Clarifies Liberal Persistence

Thomas Paine was a great Liberal

You can see it in his denunciations of conservatives



I love how simple you make it to prove you a liar.
Or a simpleton.


Let's continue with your education:

Rather than 'e pluribus unum,' out of many, one, Liberal intentions encourage Americans to view themselves as separate from other Americans.

The (Liberal) Democrat Party advances based on identity politics, having each disparate group see itself as a victim, with unique grievances that only big government can assuage.

We have an education system that twists multiculturalism to discount our American heritage. A Kansas teacher was dismissed based on his school-affiliated website, which included links to a US Army website and historical sites, being “too patriotic.” Kansas Teacher With Conservative Views Gets Job Back Fox News






The attack on America by the Leftist ‘fifth column’ has been neither abrupt nor obvious. Rather, it has been slow, imperceptible, and unctuous. But it has been successful. Professor James Banks, major textbook author and prime mover in the development of the development of the National Council for the Social Studies guidelines on multicultural education, “To create an authentic, democratic unum (one) with moral authority and perceived legitimacy, the pluribus (diverse peoples) must negotiate and share power.”
Educational Leadership Educating for Diversity Transforming the Mainstream Curriculum


...'power shared'.....per group???

Mandated by government?




This is the fate or our nation if Liberals win.
 
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."

And that is why nobody takes you seriously. In any event, perhaps you'd care to weigh in on this question....

Is the USA a nation?



"And that is why nobody takes you seriously."

Reality is based on actions, not words.

If you don't take my posts 'seriously'....why do you always rush in to try to rebut.....unsuccessfully.....my posts?



Clearly you are a moth to my flame.

Don't ever change.
 
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."

And that is why nobody takes you seriously. In any event, perhaps you'd care to weigh in on this question....

Is the USA a nation?



"And that is why nobody takes you seriously."

Reality is based on actions, not words.

If you don't take my posts 'seriously'....why do you always rush in to try to rebut.....unsuccessfully.....my posts?



Clearly you are a moth to my flame.

Don't ever change.

Wait a second, you mean to tell me that you take me seriously? :lmao: Well that's your mistake, not mine.
 
Thomas Paine was a liberal....he was talking about conservatives


.Thomas Paine was, as I am, a conservative....known then as classical liberals.

We endorse a nation based on individualism, limited constitutional government, and free markets.


None of 'you people'....communists, Liberals,Progressives, Fascists, Nazis or socialists.do.


You didn't know that?

No, actually Thomas Paine advocated tar and feathering a conservative like you



You must assume that everyone is as dumb as your are....and not familiar with the great patriot, Thomas Paine.

It is the conservatives who are the patriots.....and the Liberals who work tirelessly to destroy America.
True?


"We can all imagine bad versions of multiculturalism — ones that dramatically undermine the social cohesion necessary to maintain order or defend the nation in war; ones in which many people in a modern economy speak mutually unintelligible languages; ones in which members of some subcultures feel comfortable violently attacking people, whether of their own culture or of others; and so on..... "
Multiculturalism For or Against National Review Online



So.....why do Liberals hate America.....

....and, what keeps you here?
 
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."

And that is why nobody takes you seriously. In any event, perhaps you'd care to weigh in on this question....

Is the USA a nation?



"And that is why nobody takes you seriously."

Reality is based on actions, not words.

If you don't take my posts 'seriously'....why do you always rush in to try to rebut.....unsuccessfully.....my posts?



Clearly you are a moth to my flame.

Don't ever change.

Wait a second, you mean to tell me that you take me seriously? :lmao: Well that's your mistake, not mine.



Oooo.....look....a 'so are you' post!

What a dunce.
 
Thomas Paine was a liberal....he was talking about conservatives


.Thomas Paine was, as I am, a conservative....known then as classical liberals.

We endorse a nation based on individualism, limited constitutional government, and free markets.


None of 'you people'....communists, Liberals,Progressives, Fascists, Nazis or socialists.do.


You didn't know that?

No, actually Thomas Paine advocated tar and feathering a conservative like you



You must assume that everyone is as dumb as your are....and not familiar with the great patriot, Thomas Paine.

It is the conservatives who are the patriots.....and the Liberals who work tirelessly to destroy America.
True?


"We can all imagine bad versions of multiculturalism — ones that dramatically undermine the social cohesion necessary to maintain order or defend the nation in war; ones in which many people in a modern economy speak mutually unintelligible languages; ones in which members of some subcultures feel comfortable violently attacking people, whether of their own culture or of others; and so on..... "
Multiculturalism For or Against National Review Online



So.....why do Liberals hate America.....

....and, what keeps you here?

Hate America?

Liberals founded this great nation....over the objections of conservatives such as yourself
 
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."

And that is why nobody takes you seriously. In any event, perhaps you'd care to weigh in on this question....

Is the USA a nation?



"And that is why nobody takes you seriously."

Reality is based on actions, not words.

If you don't take my posts 'seriously'....why do you always rush in to try to rebut.....unsuccessfully.....my posts?



Clearly you are a moth to my flame.

Don't ever change.

Wait a second, you mean to tell me that you take me seriously? :lmao: Well that's your mistake, not mine.



Oooo.....look....a 'so are you' post!

What a dunce.

Oh PC, you're so angsty. It would be cute, if I were still in high school.
 
If Liberals/Democrats were to admit that global jihad, terrorism, and the like exist, and are associated with a particular group and religion.....that would show how totally wrong they have always been.

Liberals don't deny that. What they deny is that such facts justify the genocide of all people of the Muslim faith.
 
Thomas Paine was a liberal....he was talking about conservatives


.Thomas Paine was, as I am, a conservative....known then as classical liberals.

We endorse a nation based on individualism, limited constitutional government, and free markets.


None of 'you people'....communists, Liberals,Progressives, Fascists, Nazis or socialists.do.


You didn't know that?

No, actually Thomas Paine advocated tar and feathering a conservative like you



You must assume that everyone is as dumb as your are....and not familiar with the great patriot, Thomas Paine.

It is the conservatives who are the patriots.....and the Liberals who work tirelessly to destroy America.
True?


"We can all imagine bad versions of multiculturalism — ones that dramatically undermine the social cohesion necessary to maintain order or defend the nation in war; ones in which many people in a modern economy speak mutually unintelligible languages; ones in which members of some subcultures feel comfortable violently attacking people, whether of their own culture or of others; and so on..... "
Multiculturalism For or Against National Review Online



So.....why do Liberals hate America.....

....and, what keeps you here?

Hate America?

Liberals founded this great nation....over the objections of conservatives such as yourself



Of course no such thing.

The term 'Liberal' applies to the Socialist Party, which stole the term because of how much Americans despised socialism.

Thanks for the opportunity to share this with all. and prove what liars Liberals are:

"How Socialist John Dewey Switched Labels
by Jim Peron

  1. Pity the poor liberal. And I mean the real liberal. Not the modern watered-down socialist who calls himself a liberal but a real, honest, classical liberal. There is so much confusion over the term and real liberals have allowed fake liberals to get away with this subtle destruction of the language.
  2. The classical liberals proposed laissez faire and this led to prosperity. The economics of 19th century liberalism brought about a major increase in the standard of living of all people. Thus real liberalism produced the effects which socialists dreamed their system would provide.
    1. Many socialists wanted prosperity and thought socialism would lead to such results faster than classical liberalism. But at the same time many socialists saw their ideology as a means of grabbing power for themselves and it was the power, not the promised prosperity, which attracted them.
  3. [Socialists] knew that liberalism had a good reputation with the working classes — the very audience which they were targeting. The idea was to adopt the name liberal to describe socialism. Socialism, as socialism, was harder to sell. But by taking a name they did not deserve they felt they could make political gains on the backs of classical liberalism. And they did.
  4. In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
    1. But he noted the collectivism of that day was a “collectivism of profit” and not a “collectivism of planning”. He said the only way liberalism could return to its true meaning was to adopt socialism as the means by which liberal goals would be achieved. As he put it central economic planning was “the sole method of social action by which liberalism can realize its professed aims.”
  5. Peter Witonski, in his essay The Historical Roots of American Planning said: “Dewey was the first to argue that the world ‘liberal’—which once stood for liberal, free-market capitalism—could better serve the needs of social democracy in America than the world ‘socialism’.
    1. The liberalism of Adam Smith was out-of-date Dewey argued.” In his book Liberalism and Social Action, Dewey suggested that the goals of a free society could best be obtained “only by a reversal of the means to which early liberalism was committed.” But the means of liberalism were fundamentally connected to the basic premises of liberalism. A reversal of means, while keeping similar goals in mind, also changed the premises of liberalism. The “new wisdom” of Keynes with the “reversal of means” of Dewey really meant stealing the name of liberalism and applying it to another very different species. The famed economist Joseph Schumpeter noted that “the enemies of private enterprise have thought it wise to appropriate its label.”
  6. Today a great deal of confusion reigns because socialists decided to deceptively call their own ideology liberal. And, to a very large degree, the academics who wrote the recent texts on liberalism were socialists. Hence they were quite willing to pretend that socialism was a modern form of classical liberalism.
  7. [Classical] liberal describes individuals supporting free markets, private property, profit management and limited governments
  8. . o-called “liberals” support socialism, state ownership, bureaucratic management and statism.


http://orlingrabbe.com/lfetimes/liberal_confusion.htm

Democracy & free markets vs socialism

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Democracy & free markets vs socialism

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Did I just destroy you again?

Pop another antacid, you'll be fine......ready to fib again another day.
 
Liberalism is a political philosophy that challenges the social norms to bring about change

Indeed, our founders were among the worlds great liberals

Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.....ALL opposed by conservatives
 
Liberalism is a political philosophy that challenges the social norms to bring about change

Indeed, our founders were among the worlds great liberals

Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.....ALL opposed by conservatives


"Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.."

All by Republicans....none by Democrats....what we call Liberals today.




"In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
  1. Today a great deal of confusion reigns because socialists decided to deceptively call their own ideology liberal. And, to a very large degree, the academics who wrote the recent texts on liberalism were socialists. Hence they were quite willing to pretend that socialism was a modern form of classical liberalism.
  2. [Classical] liberal describes individuals supporting free markets, private property, profit management and limited governments."

Don't you love when I post the truth?
 
Thomas Paine was a liberal....he was talking about conservatives


.Thomas Paine was, as I am, a conservative....known then as classical liberals.

We endorse a nation based on individualism, limited constitutional government, and free markets.


None of 'you people'....communists, Liberals,Progressives, Fascists, Nazis or socialists.do.


You didn't know that?

No, actually Thomas Paine advocated tar and feathering a conservative like you



You must assume that everyone is as dumb as your are....and not familiar with the great patriot, Thomas Paine.

It is the conservatives who are the patriots.....and the Liberals who work tirelessly to destroy America.
True?


"We can all imagine bad versions of multiculturalism — ones that dramatically undermine the social cohesion necessary to maintain order or defend the nation in war; ones in which many people in a modern economy speak mutually unintelligible languages; ones in which members of some subcultures feel comfortable violently attacking people, whether of their own culture or of others; and so on..... "
Multiculturalism For or Against National Review Online



So.....why do Liberals hate America.....

....and, what keeps you here?

What keeps you here? The free room and board?
 
Liberalism is a political philosophy that challenges the social norms to bring about change

Indeed, our founders were among the worlds great liberals

Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.....ALL opposed by conservatives


"Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.."

All by Republicans....none by Democrats....what we call Liberals today.




"In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
  1. Today a great deal of confusion reigns because socialists decided to deceptively call their own ideology liberal. And, to a very large degree, the academics who wrote the recent texts on liberalism were socialists. Hence they were quite willing to pretend that socialism was a modern form of classical liberalism.
  2. [Classical] liberal describes individuals supporting free markets, private property, profit management and limited governments."

Don't you love when I post the truth?

What makes you think Republicans can't be liberals?

They teach you that at Columbia?
 
Liberalism is a political philosophy that challenges the social norms to bring about change

Indeed, our founders were among the worlds great liberals

Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.....ALL opposed by conservatives


"Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.."

All by Republicans....none by Democrats....what we call Liberals today.




"In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
  1. Today a great deal of confusion reigns because socialists decided to deceptively call their own ideology liberal. And, to a very large degree, the academics who wrote the recent texts on liberalism were socialists. Hence they were quite willing to pretend that socialism was a modern form of classical liberalism.
  2. [Classical] liberal describes individuals supporting free markets, private property, profit management and limited governments."

Don't you love when I post the truth?

What makes you think Republicans can't be liberals?

They teach you that at Columbia?




Why are you running ...or staggering....away from this?

"Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.."

All by Republicans....none by Democrats....what we call Liberals today.




"In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
  1. Today a great deal of confusion reigns because socialists decided to deceptively call their own ideology liberal. And, to a very large degree, the academics who wrote the recent texts on liberalism were socialists. Hence they were quite willing to pretend that socialism was a modern form of classical liberalism.
  2. [Classical] liberal describes individuals supporting free markets, private property, profit management and limited governments."

Don't you love when I post the truth?
 
"NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — A man being sought in connection with an explosion in Seaside Park, New Jersey and another blast in Chelsea is believed to be in custody, Linden police said.

Authorities have been looking for Ahmad Khan Rahami, a 28-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen from Afghanistan.

Linden police said they found Rahami after officers responded to a call of a man sleeping in a hallway of a local business.

When a responding officer approached the man, the man raised his head and that’s when the officer recognized him as Rahami, Capt. James Sarnicki with Linden police told CBS2.

“The suspect pulled out a gun and fired at the officer and striking him in the abdomen,” Sarnicki said.

The NYPD and the FBI first said Monday morning that Rahami was being sought in the Chelsea explosion that left 29 people hurt."
Suspect In Chelsea, Seaside Park Explosions In Custody, Linden Police Say




Pop quiz:
Who do you suppose Ahmad Khan Rahami, a 28-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen from Afghanistan, would have voted for in November?
 
Liberalism is a political philosophy that challenges the social norms to bring about change

Indeed, our founders were among the worlds great liberals

Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.....ALL opposed by conservatives


"Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.."

All by Republicans....none by Democrats....what we call Liberals today.




"In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
  1. Today a great deal of confusion reigns because socialists decided to deceptively call their own ideology liberal. And, to a very large degree, the academics who wrote the recent texts on liberalism were socialists. Hence they were quite willing to pretend that socialism was a modern form of classical liberalism.
  2. [Classical] liberal describes individuals supporting free markets, private property, profit management and limited governments."

Don't you love when I post the truth?

What makes you think Republicans can't be liberals?

They teach you that at Columbia?




Why are you running ...or staggering....away from this?

"Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.."

All by Republicans....none by Democrats....what we call Liberals today.




"In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
  1. Today a great deal of confusion reigns because socialists decided to deceptively call their own ideology liberal. And, to a very large degree, the academics who wrote the recent texts on liberalism were socialists. Hence they were quite willing to pretend that socialism was a modern form of classical liberalism.
  2. [Classical] liberal describes individuals supporting free markets, private property, profit management and limited governments."

Don't you love when I post the truth?

Again...was your Columbia education that poor that you never learned the difference between Conservative/Liberal and Republican/Democrat?

I guess cut and paste only gets you so far
 
"Immigraton To Swell Muslim Population to 6.2 Million
According to U.S. Census Data, the United States admits roughly 100,000 Muslim immigrants legally each year, representing the fastest growing block of immigration into the United States. Tennessee, in fact, is home to one of the fastest growing immigrant populations in the country, causing thePresident to give a recent speech there in favor of expansive immigration.

This demographic change is entirely the product of legal admissions–that is, it is a formal policy of the federal government adopted by Congress.

Another major source of Middle Eastern immigration into the United States is done through our nation’s refugee program. Every year the United Stated admits 70,000 asylees and refugees.Arabic is the most common language spoken by refugees, and 91.4 percent of refugees from the Middle East are on food stamps.

The importation of Middle Eastern immigrants through the nation’s refugee program hasled to the development of pockets of radicalized communities throughout the United States." Immigration to Swell U.S. Muslim Population to 6.2 Million - Breitbart





"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
Thomas Paine
 
Liberalism is a political philosophy that challenges the social norms to bring about change

Indeed, our founders were among the worlds great liberals

Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.....ALL opposed by conservatives


"Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.."

All by Republicans....none by Democrats....what we call Liberals today.




"In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
  1. Today a great deal of confusion reigns because socialists decided to deceptively call their own ideology liberal. And, to a very large degree, the academics who wrote the recent texts on liberalism were socialists. Hence they were quite willing to pretend that socialism was a modern form of classical liberalism.
  2. [Classical] liberal describes individuals supporting free markets, private property, profit management and limited governments."

Don't you love when I post the truth?

What makes you think Republicans can't be liberals?

They teach you that at Columbia?




Why are you running ...or staggering....away from this?

"Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.."

All by Republicans....none by Democrats....what we call Liberals today.




"In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
  1. Today a great deal of confusion reigns because socialists decided to deceptively call their own ideology liberal. And, to a very large degree, the academics who wrote the recent texts on liberalism were socialists. Hence they were quite willing to pretend that socialism was a modern form of classical liberalism.
  2. [Classical] liberal describes individuals supporting free markets, private property, profit management and limited governments."

Don't you love when I post the truth?

Again...was your Columbia education that poor that you never learned the difference between Conservative/Liberal and Republican/Democrat?

I guess cut and paste only gets you so far



Why are you running ...or staggering....away from this?

"Liberalism brought about an end to slavery, women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, environmental protection, worker safety.."

All by Republicans....none by Democrats....what we call Liberals today.




"In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
  1. Today a great deal of confusion reigns because socialists decided to deceptively call their own ideology liberal. And, to a very large degree, the academics who wrote the recent texts on liberalism were socialists. Hence they were quite willing to pretend that socialism was a modern form of classical liberalism.
  2. [Classical] liberal describes individuals supporting free markets, private property, profit management and limited governments."

Don't you love when I post the truth?
 

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