Tightening The Noose On Liberty

I haven't reversed course, you have. The fun thing about debating you is that I have seen people like you before but I always had to pay admission first.


Gee....first you were complaining about Bush firing 8 attorneys....then you were explaining that it was just fine for Clinton to fire 93 of 'em....

Now this: "I haven't reversed course, you have."

I'll just sit back and let folks read it.

You might just get your very own telethon out of it.

Nope you brought up Clinton and I didn't bring up 8 either. Too much for you my dear, it sure seems so when you can't get elementary facts correct.
 
I haven't reversed course, you have. The fun thing about debating you is that I have seen people like you before but I always had to pay admission first.


Gee....first you were complaining about Bush firing 8 attorneys....then you were explaining that it was just fine for Clinton to fire 93 of 'em....

Now this: "I haven't reversed course, you have."

I'll just sit back and let folks read it.

You might just get your very own telethon out of it.

Nope you brought up Clinton and I didn't bring up 8 either. Too much for you my dear, it sure seems so when you can't get elementary facts correct.



Gads....you're really sick.

You posted this in #173...
"From someone who completely ignores what George Bush did to the DOJ you should change your name to Politically Clueless

Why don't you look into the U.S. Attorney firings to start,..."


That was the first mention of U.S, Attorney firing.

So....which is it....are you really, really stupid, or simply a Liberal liar....(is that redundant?)
 
10. " If we had that frank, truthful discussion about race, we’d learn that the Obama administration doesn’t believe some civil rights laws protect every American.

The Bush Civil Rights Division was willing to protect all Americans from racial discrimination; during the Obama years, the Holder years, only some Americans will be protected. Americans have a right to know and judge the racial policies of the administration they elected in 2008…. In time, statistics and other information will present truth to this lie, as the Bush Civil Rights Division had a more robust civil rights agenda than the Obama Civil Rights Division. During the Bush years, the Civil Rights Division brought more cases in many areas of the law, particularly voting rights." PJ Media

http://pjmedia.com/blog/j-christian...forcement-reigns-at-obamas-doj-pjm-exclusive/




To expect liberty in a nation under Liberal control is akin to expecting milkshake made with lactose-free milk.
 
I haven't reversed course, you have. The fun thing about debating you is that I have seen people like you before but I always had to pay admission first.


Gee....first you were complaining about Bush firing 8 attorneys....then you were explaining that it was just fine for Clinton to fire 93 of 'em....

Now this: "I haven't reversed course, you have."

I'll just sit back and let folks read it.

You might just get your very own telethon out of it.

Nope you brought up Clinton and I didn't bring up 8 either. Too much for you my dear, it sure seems so when you can't get elementary facts correct.



Gads....you're really sick.

You posted this in #173...
"From someone who completely ignores what George Bush did to the DOJ you should change your name to Politically Clueless

Why don't you look into the U.S. Attorney firings to start,..."


That was the first mention of U.S, Attorney firing.

So....which is it....are you really, really stupid, or simply a Liberal liar....(is that redundant?)

Right and I did not mention 8 nor did I bring up Clinton, you did.
 
I have no idea who you are talking about but it isn't me. Stand on the street corner and yell your damn fool head off, but keep your religion off of the public square unless it's temporary eh?

ROFL

Not you? Not the one who runs around calling for the deaths of entire ethnic groups? Not the one who calls for imprisonment of those who protest Obama?

Sure sparky, you'll convince someone...
 
From someone who completely ignores what George Bush did to the DOJ you should change your name to Politically Clueless

Why don't you look into the U.S. Attorney firings to start, or the Military Commissions Act, or the attempted appointment of Harriet Meyers to the Supreme Court or NSA warrantless wiretapping or the Unilateral Executive doctrine, asserting the right to open U.S. Mail, the attempt to appoint U.S. Attorneys without Senate confirmation, Seriously, if you want to examine someone messing with our justice systems, start there.

You do grasp that sins by George Bush do not wash away sins by your little tin god, doncha?

If Bush was a shithead, it in no way changes the fact that Obama is a putrid scumbag. I never was a fan of Dubya, far from it. But that doesn't change what a fuckwad Obama is.
 
I'm sorry if facts get in the way of your political canons, but you put it out there and Biden got zero credit no matter what anyone says.

In order for facts to get in my way, you would have to offer one - at least once. Thus far, you have not.

{According to the summary by President Clinton, the bill was intended to establish federal criminal jurisdiction over acts of international terrorism.[5] Civil liberty advocacy groups opposed the bill on the grounds that it would violate fundamental civil liberties, including the right to confront one's accuser.[3] Another source of opposition was the Government's ability to use evidence from secret sources in deportation proceedings for suspected terrorists.[3] During the debate over the Patriot Act of 2001 then Senator Joe Biden compared this bill to its 2001 counterpart stating "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill."[7]}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995

Facts are my forte' and something you have no association with.
 
Gee....I put this in post #92....

"It must be said that Obama is not the first Liberal/Progressive/Democrat to champion the criminal rather than the law-abiding citizen."


Must be stipulated....no one disagreed.
Just patently obvious, I guess.
Just more of your fascism, criminals having no rights. In your world it's rights for you but not the other guy...







Ummm, criminals have already shown they don't care about the rights of others so why exactly should we care about theirs? Once they have exhibited an ability to follow the law I have no problem with the restoration of those rights but they have to earn them back.
 
I haven't reversed course, you have. The fun thing about debating you is that I have seen people like you before but I always had to pay admission first.


Gee....first you were complaining about Bush firing 8 attorneys....then you were explaining that it was just fine for Clinton to fire 93 of 'em....

Now this: "I haven't reversed course, you have."

I'll just sit back and let folks read it.

You might just get your very own telethon out of it.

Nope you brought up Clinton and I didn't bring up 8 either. Too much for you my dear, it sure seems so when you can't get elementary facts correct.



Gads....you're really sick.

You posted this in #173...
"From someone who completely ignores what George Bush did to the DOJ you should change your name to Politically Clueless

Why don't you look into the U.S. Attorney firings to start,..."


That was the first mention of U.S, Attorney firing.

So....which is it....are you really, really stupid, or simply a Liberal liar....(is that redundant?)

You're demented and probably need help. More than 30 posts later you're still waffling, waffling because it destroys your whole premise that liberals have destroyed individual rights in this country and have damaged justice, when in fact the 9/11 era and George Bush did far more damage. Now, I don't think you're stupid, but I do think you might be psychology disturbed to ignore all the evidence thrown at you thread after thread, it takes a real special fuckwit to ignore it all. I also think you're a pathological liar who has never seen an ounce of honesty or truth in your entire life.
 
From someone who completely ignores what George Bush did to the DOJ you should change your name to Politically Clueless

Why don't you look into the U.S. Attorney firings to start, or the Military Commissions Act, or the attempted appointment of Harriet Meyers to the Supreme Court or NSA warrantless wiretapping or the Unilateral Executive doctrine, asserting the right to open U.S. Mail, the attempt to appoint U.S. Attorneys without Senate confirmation, Seriously, if you want to examine someone messing with our justice systems, start there.

You do grasp that sins by George Bush do not wash away sins by your little tin god, doncha?

If Bush was a shithead, it in no way changes the fact that Obama is a putrid scumbag. I never was a fan of Dubya, far from it. But that doesn't change what a fuckwad Obama is.

I know that the sins of your fatheaded Buddha has made things worse for this country since 2001 and if Obama is what you say he is, it's only because Bush messed it up so badly anyone would have had just as much difficulty getting it set on a right track again.
 
I'm sorry if facts get in the way of your political canons, but you put it out there and Biden got zero credit no matter what anyone says.

In order for facts to get in my way, you would have to offer one - at least once. Thus far, you have not.

{According to the summary by President Clinton, the bill was intended to establish federal criminal jurisdiction over acts of international terrorism.[5] Civil liberty advocacy groups opposed the bill on the grounds that it would violate fundamental civil liberties, including the right to confront one's accuser.[3] Another source of opposition was the Government's ability to use evidence from secret sources in deportation proceedings for suspected terrorists.[3] During the debate over the Patriot Act of 2001 then Senator Joe Biden compared this bill to its 2001 counterpart stating "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill."[7]}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995

Facts are my forte' and something you have no association with.

A bill that
I'm sorry if facts get in the way of your political canons, but you put it out there and Biden got zero credit no matter what anyone says.

In order for facts to get in my way, you would have to offer one - at least once. Thus far, you have not.

{According to the summary by President Clinton, the bill was intended to establish federal criminal jurisdiction over acts of international terrorism.[5] Civil liberty advocacy groups opposed the bill on the grounds that it would violate fundamental civil liberties, including the right to confront one's accuser.[3] Another source of opposition was the Government's ability to use evidence from secret sources in deportation proceedings for suspected terrorists.[3] During the debate over the Patriot Act of 2001 then Senator Joe Biden compared this bill to its 2001 counterpart stating "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill."[7]}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995

Facts are my forte' and something you have no association with.

Again, Biden got zero credit. I understand what you're trying to say, but his name should be on the bill or some kind of credit given if the work was his. This is a good illustration of just how dishonest Republicans are, take a man's work and don't even throw him a bone.
 
I haven't reversed course, you have. The fun thing about debating you is that I have seen people like you before but I always had to pay admission first.


Gee....first you were complaining about Bush firing 8 attorneys....then you were explaining that it was just fine for Clinton to fire 93 of 'em....

Now this: "I haven't reversed course, you have."

I'll just sit back and let folks read it.

You might just get your very own telethon out of it.

Nope you brought up Clinton and I didn't bring up 8 either. Too much for you my dear, it sure seems so when you can't get elementary facts correct.



Gads....you're really sick.

You posted this in #173...
"From someone who completely ignores what George Bush did to the DOJ you should change your name to Politically Clueless

Why don't you look into the U.S. Attorney firings to start,..."


That was the first mention of U.S, Attorney firing.

So....which is it....are you really, really stupid, or simply a Liberal liar....(is that redundant?)

You're demented and probably need help. More than 30 posts later you're still waffling, waffling because it destroys your whole premise that liberals have destroyed individual rights in this country and have damaged justice, when in fact the 9/11 era and George Bush did far more damage. Now, I don't think you're stupid, but I do think you might be psychology disturbed to ignore all the evidence thrown at you thread after thread, it takes a real special fuckwit to ignore it all. I also think you're a pathological liar who has never seen an ounce of honesty or truth in your entire life.



".. your whole premise that liberals have destroyed individual rights in this country and have damaged justice, ...."

Absolutely.

"Collectivism is the moral stance, political philosophy, ideology, or social outlook that emphasizes the significance of groups—their identities, goals, rights, outcomes, etc.—and tends to analyze issues in those terms. Collectivism is a basic cultural element that exists as the reverse of individualism..."
Collectivism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There can be no justice if only groups have rights.



In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states:
There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”



Liberalism shares the very same aims and views as communism, socialism, Nazism, fascism, Progressivism....and environmentalism.
 
From someone who completely ignores what George Bush did to the DOJ you should change your name to Politically Clueless

Why don't you look into the U.S. Attorney firings to start, or the Military Commissions Act, or the attempted appointment of Harriet Meyers to the Supreme Court or NSA warrantless wiretapping or the Unilateral Executive doctrine, asserting the right to open U.S. Mail, the attempt to appoint U.S. Attorneys without Senate confirmation, Seriously, if you want to examine someone messing with our justice systems, start there.

You do grasp that sins by George Bush do not wash away sins by your little tin god, doncha?

If Bush was a shithead, it in no way changes the fact that Obama is a putrid scumbag. I never was a fan of Dubya, far from it. But that doesn't change what a fuckwad Obama is.

I know that the sins of your fatheaded Buddha has made things worse for this country since 2001 and if Obama is what you say he is, it's only because Bush messed it up so badly anyone would have had just as much difficulty getting it set on a right track again.


So....because your Obama is an abject failure....and that reflects on you, and every Obama voter as a failure as well....you'd rather spotlight a previous President.


Sorry...you've been exposed.
 
I'm sorry if facts get in the way of your political canons, but you put it out there and Biden got zero credit no matter what anyone says.

In order for facts to get in my way, you would have to offer one - at least once. Thus far, you have not.

{According to the summary by President Clinton, the bill was intended to establish federal criminal jurisdiction over acts of international terrorism.[5] Civil liberty advocacy groups opposed the bill on the grounds that it would violate fundamental civil liberties, including the right to confront one's accuser.[3] Another source of opposition was the Government's ability to use evidence from secret sources in deportation proceedings for suspected terrorists.[3] During the debate over the Patriot Act of 2001 then Senator Joe Biden compared this bill to its 2001 counterpart stating "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill."[7]}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995

Facts are my forte' and something you have no association with.

A bill that
I'm sorry if facts get in the way of your political canons, but you put it out there and Biden got zero credit no matter what anyone says.

In order for facts to get in my way, you would have to offer one - at least once. Thus far, you have not.

{According to the summary by President Clinton, the bill was intended to establish federal criminal jurisdiction over acts of international terrorism.[5] Civil liberty advocacy groups opposed the bill on the grounds that it would violate fundamental civil liberties, including the right to confront one's accuser.[3] Another source of opposition was the Government's ability to use evidence from secret sources in deportation proceedings for suspected terrorists.[3] During the debate over the Patriot Act of 2001 then Senator Joe Biden compared this bill to its 2001 counterpart stating "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill."[7]}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995

Facts are my forte' and something you have no association with.

Again, Biden got zero credit. I understand what you're trying to say, but his name should be on the bill or some kind of credit given if the work was his. This is a good illustration of just how dishonest Republicans are, take a man's work and don't even throw him a bone.



Biden?

Let's remember that Biden was behind the Democrat/Liberal attempt to deprive this nation of intelligence needed to protect our citizens, and which led to the 9/11 attacks.


This Joe Biden:

. "[C]hairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Joseph Biden,…[t]he Delaware Democrat was one of seventeen Senators whovoted in 1974 to ban all covert operations, and proudly noted during his 1988 campaign for president that he had threatened to “go public” with covert action plans by the Reagan administration, causing them to cancel the operations.

The sad reality is that a CIA operative with any hope of infiltrating a terrorist cell would need to demonstrate his bona fides in any number of reprehensible ways. These are unpleasant thoughts to contemplate, and they certainly do not fit our conception of the way the world ought to work. But America cannot have it both ways -- it cannot expect to deter an Osama bin Laden and keep its hands clean at the same time. Presidents need options short of war to handle this type of threat.

[Liberal Democrat] Congressional meddling is primarily responsible for this new CIA ethos, transforming it from an agency willing to take risks, and act at times in a Machiavellian manner, into just another sclerotic Washington bureaucracy. This cautious, legalistic attitude has crippled the agency’s effectiveness and will not change unless the oversight committees of Congress acknowledge the uniquely executive character of intelligence and covert operations, and start to dismantle the cumbersome oversight apparatus erected during the last twenty five years."
History News Network Congressional Oversight and the Crippling of the CIA

A major reason why we were unable to detect the 9/11 attack!




Anti-America actions is de rigueur for Democrats/LIberals.
 
I haven't reversed course, you have. The fun thing about debating you is that I have seen people like you before but I always had to pay admission first.


Gee....first you were complaining about Bush firing 8 attorneys....then you were explaining that it was just fine for Clinton to fire 93 of 'em....

Now this: "I haven't reversed course, you have."

I'll just sit back and let folks read it.

You might just get your very own telethon out of it.

Nope you brought up Clinton and I didn't bring up 8 either. Too much for you my dear, it sure seems so when you can't get elementary facts correct.



Gads....you're really sick.

You posted this in #173...
"From someone who completely ignores what George Bush did to the DOJ you should change your name to Politically Clueless

Why don't you look into the U.S. Attorney firings to start,..."


That was the first mention of U.S, Attorney firing.

So....which is it....are you really, really stupid, or simply a Liberal liar....(is that redundant?)

You're demented and probably need help. More than 30 posts later you're still waffling, waffling because it destroys your whole premise that liberals have destroyed individual rights in this country and have damaged justice, when in fact the 9/11 era and George Bush did far more damage. Now, I don't think you're stupid, but I do think you might be psychology disturbed to ignore all the evidence thrown at you thread after thread, it takes a real special fuckwit to ignore it all. I also think you're a pathological liar who has never seen an ounce of honesty or truth in your entire life.



".. your whole premise that liberals have destroyed individual rights in this country and have damaged justice, ...."

Absolutely.

"Collectivism is the moral stance, political philosophy, ideology, or social outlook that emphasizes the significance of groups—their identities, goals, rights, outcomes, etc.—and tends to analyze issues in those terms. Collectivism is a basic cultural element that exists as the reverse of individualism..."
Collectivism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There can be no justice if only groups have rights.



In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states:
There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”



Liberalism shares the very same aims and views as communism, socialism, Nazism, fascism, Progressivism....and environmentalism.

Your use of language to couch false analogies and exploit words to change meanings is a deliberate attempt to project a false narrative. No wonder your initials "P.C." are the same as Pancreatic Cancer.
 
From someone who completely ignores what George Bush did to the DOJ you should change your name to Politically Clueless

Why don't you look into the U.S. Attorney firings to start, or the Military Commissions Act, or the attempted appointment of Harriet Meyers to the Supreme Court or NSA warrantless wiretapping or the Unilateral Executive doctrine, asserting the right to open U.S. Mail, the attempt to appoint U.S. Attorneys without Senate confirmation, Seriously, if you want to examine someone messing with our justice systems, start there.

You do grasp that sins by George Bush do not wash away sins by your little tin god, doncha?

If Bush was a shithead, it in no way changes the fact that Obama is a putrid scumbag. I never was a fan of Dubya, far from it. But that doesn't change what a fuckwad Obama is.

I know that the sins of your fatheaded Buddha has made things worse for this country since 2001 and if Obama is what you say he is, it's only because Bush messed it up so badly anyone would have had just as much difficulty getting it set on a right track again.


So....because your Obama is an abject failure....and that reflects on you, and every Obama voter as a failure as well....you'd rather spotlight a previous President.


Sorry...you've been exposed.

Actually that's a childish assumption by you and shows that for someone of an advanced age you never really grew up.
 
I'm sorry if facts get in the way of your political canons, but you put it out there and Biden got zero credit no matter what anyone says.

In order for facts to get in my way, you would have to offer one - at least once. Thus far, you have not.

{According to the summary by President Clinton, the bill was intended to establish federal criminal jurisdiction over acts of international terrorism.[5] Civil liberty advocacy groups opposed the bill on the grounds that it would violate fundamental civil liberties, including the right to confront one's accuser.[3] Another source of opposition was the Government's ability to use evidence from secret sources in deportation proceedings for suspected terrorists.[3] During the debate over the Patriot Act of 2001 then Senator Joe Biden compared this bill to its 2001 counterpart stating "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill."[7]}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995

Facts are my forte' and something you have no association with.

A bill that
I'm sorry if facts get in the way of your political canons, but you put it out there and Biden got zero credit no matter what anyone says.

In order for facts to get in my way, you would have to offer one - at least once. Thus far, you have not.

{According to the summary by President Clinton, the bill was intended to establish federal criminal jurisdiction over acts of international terrorism.[5] Civil liberty advocacy groups opposed the bill on the grounds that it would violate fundamental civil liberties, including the right to confront one's accuser.[3] Another source of opposition was the Government's ability to use evidence from secret sources in deportation proceedings for suspected terrorists.[3] During the debate over the Patriot Act of 2001 then Senator Joe Biden compared this bill to its 2001 counterpart stating "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill."[7]}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995

Facts are my forte' and something you have no association with.

Again, Biden got zero credit. I understand what you're trying to say, but his name should be on the bill or some kind of credit given if the work was his. This is a good illustration of just how dishonest Republicans are, take a man's work and don't even throw him a bone.



Biden?

Let's remember that Biden was behind the Democrat/Liberal attempt to deprive this nation of intelligence needed to protect our citizens, and which led to the 9/11 attacks.


This Joe Biden:

. "[C]hairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Joseph Biden,…[t]he Delaware Democrat was one of seventeen Senators whovoted in 1974 to ban all covert operations, and proudly noted during his 1988 campaign for president that he had threatened to “go public” with covert action plans by the Reagan administration, causing them to cancel the operations.

The sad reality is that a CIA operative with any hope of infiltrating a terrorist cell would need to demonstrate his bona fides in any number of reprehensible ways. These are unpleasant thoughts to contemplate, and they certainly do not fit our conception of the way the world ought to work. But America cannot have it both ways -- it cannot expect to deter an Osama bin Laden and keep its hands clean at the same time. Presidents need options short of war to handle this type of threat.

[Liberal Democrat] Congressional meddling is primarily responsible for this new CIA ethos, transforming it from an agency willing to take risks, and act at times in a Machiavellian manner, into just another sclerotic Washington bureaucracy. This cautious, legalistic attitude has crippled the agency’s effectiveness and will not change unless the oversight committees of Congress acknowledge the uniquely executive character of intelligence and covert operations, and start to dismantle the cumbersome oversight apparatus erected during the last twenty five years."
History News Network Congressional Oversight and the Crippling of the CIA

A major reason why we were unable to detect the 9/11 attack!




Anti-America actions is de rigueur for Democrats/LIberals.

Let's not forget that George Bush didn't even appoint a 9/11 Commission for more than a year after it happened. Endowned the investigation with just $3 million dollars and this was after the Challenger investigation cost $50 million and Whitewater cost $70 million. The Commission was only given 18 months to perform its job and was only allowed a 60 day extension. Finally Bush and Cheney met behind closed doors with no oath or transcript and notes were never to be published.

Let's not forget the spy they actually found in Cheney's office Leandro Aragocillo, who got ten years for selling classified material to the Philippines and France.

So despite your public slurs real things happened on Bush' watch and more answers are needed to find the real 9/11 truth.
 
Gee....first you were complaining about Bush firing 8 attorneys....then you were explaining that it was just fine for Clinton to fire 93 of 'em....

Now this: "I haven't reversed course, you have."

I'll just sit back and let folks read it.

You might just get your very own telethon out of it.

Nope you brought up Clinton and I didn't bring up 8 either. Too much for you my dear, it sure seems so when you can't get elementary facts correct.



Gads....you're really sick.

You posted this in #173...
"From someone who completely ignores what George Bush did to the DOJ you should change your name to Politically Clueless

Why don't you look into the U.S. Attorney firings to start,..."


That was the first mention of U.S, Attorney firing.

So....which is it....are you really, really stupid, or simply a Liberal liar....(is that redundant?)

You're demented and probably need help. More than 30 posts later you're still waffling, waffling because it destroys your whole premise that liberals have destroyed individual rights in this country and have damaged justice, when in fact the 9/11 era and George Bush did far more damage. Now, I don't think you're stupid, but I do think you might be psychology disturbed to ignore all the evidence thrown at you thread after thread, it takes a real special fuckwit to ignore it all. I also think you're a pathological liar who has never seen an ounce of honesty or truth in your entire life.



".. your whole premise that liberals have destroyed individual rights in this country and have damaged justice, ...."

Absolutely.

"Collectivism is the moral stance, political philosophy, ideology, or social outlook that emphasizes the significance of groups—their identities, goals, rights, outcomes, etc.—and tends to analyze issues in those terms. Collectivism is a basic cultural element that exists as the reverse of individualism..."
Collectivism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There can be no justice if only groups have rights.



In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states:
There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”



Liberalism shares the very same aims and views as communism, socialism, Nazism, fascism, Progressivism....and environmentalism.

Your use of language to couch false analogies and exploit words to change meanings is a deliberate attempt to project a false narrative. No wonder your initials "P.C." are the same as Pancreatic Cancer.



Oooo......look how angry you've gotten!

I can understand....I've given you a bloody nose, and this is the only way you can respond.


You'd best understand.....there's more where that came from.
 
Gee....I put this in post #92....

"It must be said that Obama is not the first Liberal/Progressive/Democrat to champion the criminal rather than the law-abiding citizen."


Must be stipulated....no one disagreed.
Just patently obvious, I guess.
Just more of your fascism, criminals having no rights. In your world it's rights for you but not the other guy...
Ummm, criminals have already shown they don't care about the rights of others so why exactly should we care about theirs?
Because you, especially as the state, are supposed to be better than they are. It's not an eye for an eye.
 
I'm sorry if facts get in the way of your political canons, but you put it out there and Biden got zero credit no matter what anyone says.

In order for facts to get in my way, you would have to offer one - at least once. Thus far, you have not.

{According to the summary by President Clinton, the bill was intended to establish federal criminal jurisdiction over acts of international terrorism.[5] Civil liberty advocacy groups opposed the bill on the grounds that it would violate fundamental civil liberties, including the right to confront one's accuser.[3] Another source of opposition was the Government's ability to use evidence from secret sources in deportation proceedings for suspected terrorists.[3] During the debate over the Patriot Act of 2001 then Senator Joe Biden compared this bill to its 2001 counterpart stating "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill."[7]}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995

Facts are my forte' and something you have no association with.

A bill that
I'm sorry if facts get in the way of your political canons, but you put it out there and Biden got zero credit no matter what anyone says.

In order for facts to get in my way, you would have to offer one - at least once. Thus far, you have not.

{According to the summary by President Clinton, the bill was intended to establish federal criminal jurisdiction over acts of international terrorism.[5] Civil liberty advocacy groups opposed the bill on the grounds that it would violate fundamental civil liberties, including the right to confront one's accuser.[3] Another source of opposition was the Government's ability to use evidence from secret sources in deportation proceedings for suspected terrorists.[3] During the debate over the Patriot Act of 2001 then Senator Joe Biden compared this bill to its 2001 counterpart stating "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill."[7]}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995

Facts are my forte' and something you have no association with.

Again, Biden got zero credit. I understand what you're trying to say, but his name should be on the bill or some kind of credit given if the work was his. This is a good illustration of just how dishonest Republicans are, take a man's work and don't even throw him a bone.



Biden?

Let's remember that Biden was behind the Democrat/Liberal attempt to deprive this nation of intelligence needed to protect our citizens, and which led to the 9/11 attacks.


This Joe Biden:

. "[C]hairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Joseph Biden,…[t]he Delaware Democrat was one of seventeen Senators whovoted in 1974 to ban all covert operations, and proudly noted during his 1988 campaign for president that he had threatened to “go public” with covert action plans by the Reagan administration, causing them to cancel the operations.

The sad reality is that a CIA operative with any hope of infiltrating a terrorist cell would need to demonstrate his bona fides in any number of reprehensible ways. These are unpleasant thoughts to contemplate, and they certainly do not fit our conception of the way the world ought to work. But America cannot have it both ways -- it cannot expect to deter an Osama bin Laden and keep its hands clean at the same time. Presidents need options short of war to handle this type of threat.

[Liberal Democrat] Congressional meddling is primarily responsible for this new CIA ethos, transforming it from an agency willing to take risks, and act at times in a Machiavellian manner, into just another sclerotic Washington bureaucracy. This cautious, legalistic attitude has crippled the agency’s effectiveness and will not change unless the oversight committees of Congress acknowledge the uniquely executive character of intelligence and covert operations, and start to dismantle the cumbersome oversight apparatus erected during the last twenty five years."
History News Network Congressional Oversight and the Crippling of the CIA

A major reason why we were unable to detect the 9/11 attack!




Anti-America actions is de rigueur for Democrats/LIberals.

Let's not forget that George Bush didn't even appoint a 9/11 Commission for more than a year after it happened. Endowned the investigation with just $3 million dollars and this was after the Challenger investigation cost $50 million and Whitewater cost $70 million. The Commission was only given 18 months to perform its job and was only allowed a 60 day extension. Finally Bush and Cheney met behind closed doors with no oath or transcript and notes were never to be published.

Let's not forget the spy they actually found in Cheney's office Leandro Aragocillo, who got ten years for selling classified material to the Philippines and France.

So despite your public slurs real things happened on Bush' watch and more answers are needed to find the real 9/11 truth.


Bulletin: George Bush isn't the President.



Funny that you can't defend the ineptitude in the White House, so..."Buuussssssshhhhhh!!!!"
 

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