Tightening The Noose On Liberty

[PaintMyHouse]

Nope, not even close. But I have no problems passing laws that make the American people, who are as dumb as dog shit, behave in a reasonable manner.

So, you support the "liberty" of Americans, (whom you hate) to obey without question?

I support their liberty, regardless of their stupidity but where the law can make them into decent people, it should.

 

[BlindBoo]

Wait....who said that?
Mussolini?
Hitler?
Stalin?

The people of America, who elected him, four times...

You might want to incorporate this into what passed for thinking from you, Uncle Leftie....

No democracy is possible without an unbiased press. That is the reason for the first amendment.

Good thing we're a Republic, from day one the press has been bias.

 

[nuhuh]

The only authorship on the bill is Frank J. Senselessbrainer of Wisconsin and in the Senate in part to Russ Feingold, no credit is given Biden.

They revived the Biden bill, which you would know if you had bothered to read the supplied link.

The attempt by the democrats to claim innocence is beyond the pale.

I don't care what they say they did. If they didn't credit with authorship it's all Senselessbrainer's bill.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What Obama has done to the DoJ is proof that he never belonged as the leader of the American nation.


"John Christian Adams... is an American attorney and former United States Department of Justice official who has accused the department of racial bias in many affairs, ...."
J. Christian Adams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


8. J. Christian Adams, in his best seller, "Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department," wrote the following:
" I testified under oath that pervasive and open hostility exists within the Justice Department towards race-neutral enforcement of voting rights laws….the Justice Department’s unwillingness to enforce voting laws equally and in a racially fair way.


Patriots of all races gave their lives to enshrine racial equality in this country, via the 14th and 15th Amendments and then during the Civil Rights movement. The beneficiaries of these sacrifices should not be limited, either. The Department should undergo a searching examination as to why they are unwilling to enforce voting laws in a racially fair fashion and change course.


Inside and outside the DOJ, some will snicker at the notion that the provisions of Section 5 should be used to protect whites and Asians when they are in the minority in a covered jurisdiction. Please snicker so the rest of America can hear you. It’s time you engage the debate, or else you are about to lose it badly without ever having spoken up."
PJ Media

Tell him to come post here so I can debate him.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Wait....who said that?
Mussolini?
Hitler?
Stalin?

The people of America, who elected him, four times...

You might want to incorporate this into what passed for thinking from you, Uncle Leftie....

No democracy is possible without an unbiased press. That is the reason for the first amendment.

The 1st Amendment doesn't mandate an unbiased press. It protects a biased press.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Try to be more accurate.

Fascism, like communism, Nazism, Liberalism, socialism, and Progressivism, are all permutations of the same worldview.

Yours.

I'm being entirely accurate. You are a fascist, and not even an American in name only.

As to the above, total nonsense, as usual.

Quite the pattern we are setting.....

You attempt to lie, I reveal same.

OK....let's do that:

...let's smack you in the kisser one more time:
I stated, correctly, that communism, socialism, Nazism, Liberalism, Progressivism...are all 'fruit of the same poison tree.'

Deny it?

Here is a little quiz that will show just how wrong you are:


Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.


In your face, you dolt.....
...You're so dense that light bends around you.


Don't ever change.

Liberals support a democratically elected government carrying out the will of the People.

Liberals also support our Constitutional Republic and rule of law.

Since when?

The Supreme Court was cowed....and America has never been the same since.

That's correct, and it's been much better, for nearly everyone.

So it's good that we don't have a separation of powers??????

Gads.....are you so dumb that you don't realize you've proven everything I claim about you Liberals/socialists/communists/Progressives/Nazis/fascists?????


Folks are gonna think I have you on retainer.

As I pointed out, we do have separation of powers and have never had a dictatorship.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If the law is unfair, or immoral, you can go against it, but be prepared to get your ass kicked. That is the real world.

In the civilized world, constitutions are created among men to define the justly derived powers and limitations on those entrusted by the public with leadership roles. But you totalitarians are not civilized and do not cede to the rule of law, demanding instead the capricious whim of dictators and strongmen, so that you might get scraps from their table.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nice meltdown. You're in today's contest.

Using terms you don't understand again?

 

[Uncensored2008]

I support their liberty, regardless of their stupidity but where the law can make them into decent people, it should.

And you would have the law make others into "decent" people through forced labor camps?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If the law is unfair, or immoral, you can go against it, but be prepared to get your ass kicked. That is the real world.

In the civilized world, constitutions are created among men to define the justly derived powers and limitations on those entrusted by the public with leadership roles. But you totalitarians are not civilized and do not cede to the rule of law, demanding instead the capricious whim of dictators and strongmen, so that you might get scraps from their table.

I have no idea who you are talking about but it isn't me. Stand on the street corner and yell your damn fool head off, but keep your religion off of the public square unless it's temporary eh?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I support their liberty, regardless of their stupidity but where the law can make them into decent people, it should.

And you would have the law make others into "decent" people through forced labor camps?

You are more drama queen than all of Castro Street, combined. PA laws are an example of what makes people behave. Speeding tickets do the same.

 

[nuhuh]

What Obama has done to the DoJ is proof that he never belonged as the leader of the American nation.


"John Christian Adams... is an American attorney and former United States Department of Justice official who has accused the department of racial bias in many affairs, ...."
J. Christian Adams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


8. J. Christian Adams, in his best seller, "Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department," wrote the following:
" I testified under oath that pervasive and open hostility exists within the Justice Department towards race-neutral enforcement of voting rights laws….the Justice Department’s unwillingness to enforce voting laws equally and in a racially fair way.


Patriots of all races gave their lives to enshrine racial equality in this country, via the 14th and 15th Amendments and then during the Civil Rights movement. The beneficiaries of these sacrifices should not be limited, either. The Department should undergo a searching examination as to why they are unwilling to enforce voting laws in a racially fair fashion and change course.


Inside and outside the DOJ, some will snicker at the notion that the provisions of Section 5 should be used to protect whites and Asians when they are in the minority in a covered jurisdiction. Please snicker so the rest of America can hear you. It’s time you engage the debate, or else you are about to lose it badly without ever having spoken up."
PJ Media

From someone who completely ignores what George Bush did to the DOJ you should change your name to Politically Clueless

Why don't you look into the U.S. Attorney firings to start, or the Military Commissions Act, or the attempted appointment of Harriet Meyers to the Supreme Court or NSA warrantless wiretapping or the Unilateral Executive doctrine, asserting the right to open U.S. Mail, the attempt to appoint U.S. Attorneys without Senate confirmation, Seriously, if you want to examine someone messing with our justice systems, start there.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Good thing we're a Republic, from day one the press has been bias.

True.

The myth of a press keeping government in check was fabricated in the 60's. It has never been the case. It was just a matter of the party controlled press of the time attempting to gain credibility. We had a unified press in the days of Murrow and the NY Times riding roughshod. Only that which the party wanted known was reported, but it was as biased as is possible. News was controlled directly by the democratic central committee.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I don't care what they say they did. If they didn't credit with authorship it's all Senselessbrainer's bill.

Of course you don't. You're a partisan hack with utterly no regard for fact. democrats are sociopaths, zero integrity in any of you.

 

[Londoner]

The OP uses words like Leftist to imply that there is this shadowy anti-american conspiracy which has infiltrated the courts, the government and media. This harkens back to Nixon's infamous "Jew run liberal media", which itself was a malignant form of McCarthyism (which imposed loyalty oaths that were ironically similar to the Soviets).

The Rightwing holds itself up as this neutral defender of the Constitution (in contrast to the Liberals who have stuffed our primary institutions with agenda driven drones).

Are you fucking kidding me? Sure, the Left may have been a well-oiled machine during the hey-day of the New Deal (1945-1975), but the Reagan Revolution changed all that.

Starting in 70s the Right began to get organized. They identified the need to change American opinion and American law in preparation for a full conservative revolution - which would end in a one party state without a balance of power (between the Left & Right, so that all Americans could be represented).

The Right created the largest most powerful network of think tanks, media outlets, publishing groups and political action committees in U.S. History, far eclipsing what the Left had during the Nee Deal period when they controlled government.

What scares me is that Political Chic can't even name the Rightwing organizations that form the conservative judicial revolution. He/she doesn't care about history. She has never researched the well-funded institutions that produce everything from conservative justices to anti-global-warming talking points.

Staring in the 70s her party became the Trotskyite machine that she accuses the Left of being now.

It's not only ironic that she accuses the weak Left of having a movement that packs the government, the courts and the media with agenda-driven drones, it's sad because she is taking advantage of low information voters who have never heard of the American Enterprise Institute or the Federalist Society or the Alliances Defending Freedom or the many feeder organizations that support the election of conservative justices.

In every cut-&-paste thread, Political Chic is doing what she accuses the Left of. She is spreading propaganda for a cause she believes deeply in. I can't fault her for trying to make the world a better place, but I urge everyone reading this post to take it with a grain of salt. Even if what she says is true, she always seems to omit her own agenda or the agenda driven institutions on her side. Be cautious with her/him.

 

[nuhuh]

I don't care what they say they did. If they didn't credit with authorship it's all Senselessbrainer's bill.

Of course you don't. You're a partisan hack with utterly no regard for fact. democrats are sociopaths, zero integrity in any of you.

I'm sorry if facts get in the way of your political canons, but you put it out there and Biden got zero credit no matter what anyone says.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Wait....who said that?
Mussolini?
Hitler?
Stalin?

The people of America, who elected him, four times...

You might want to incorporate this into what passed for thinking from you, Uncle Leftie....

No democracy is possible without an unbiased press. That is the reason for the first amendment.

You are a hot mess swirling with every talk radio meme and talking point imaginable about liberals.
It's not so much that the press is biased as much as it is the perception your ideology leaves you with. If you are at the furthest point to the right then you can only look left.
So naturally everything you see seems to be to your ideological left.
I suggest you leave the house and go have some drinks with some liberal friends and lighten up.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What Obama has done to the DoJ is proof that he never belonged as the leader of the American nation.


"John Christian Adams... is an American attorney and former United States Department of Justice official who has accused the department of racial bias in many affairs, ...."
J. Christian Adams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


8. J. Christian Adams, in his best seller, "Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department," wrote the following:
" I testified under oath that pervasive and open hostility exists within the Justice Department towards race-neutral enforcement of voting rights laws….the Justice Department’s unwillingness to enforce voting laws equally and in a racially fair way.


Patriots of all races gave their lives to enshrine racial equality in this country, via the 14th and 15th Amendments and then during the Civil Rights movement. The beneficiaries of these sacrifices should not be limited, either. The Department should undergo a searching examination as to why they are unwilling to enforce voting laws in a racially fair fashion and change course.


Inside and outside the DOJ, some will snicker at the notion that the provisions of Section 5 should be used to protect whites and Asians when they are in the minority in a covered jurisdiction. Please snicker so the rest of America can hear you. It’s time you engage the debate, or else you are about to lose it badly without ever having spoken up."
PJ Media

Tell him to come post here so I can debate him.

You and Adams debating?????
That'd be like Barney Rubble debating Stephen Hawking.


How about you begin by reading his book.

You know...'reading'....know what that is?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wait....who said that?
Mussolini?
Hitler?
Stalin?

The people of America, who elected him, four times...

You might want to incorporate this into what passed for thinking from you, Uncle Leftie....

No democracy is possible without an unbiased press. That is the reason for the first amendment.

The 1st Amendment doesn't mandate an unbiased press. It protects a biased press.

Spoken like a true Liberal.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm being entirely accurate. You are a fascist, and not even an American in name only.

As to the above, total nonsense, as usual.

Quite the pattern we are setting.....

You attempt to lie, I reveal same.

OK....let's do that:

...let's smack you in the kisser one more time:
I stated, correctly, that communism, socialism, Nazism, Liberalism, Progressivism...are all 'fruit of the same poison tree.'

Deny it?

Here is a little quiz that will show just how wrong you are:


Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.


In your face, you dolt.....
...You're so dense that light bends around you.


Don't ever change.

Liberals support a democratically elected government carrying out the will of the People.

Liberals also support our Constitutional Republic and rule of law.

Since when?

The Supreme Court was cowed....and America has never been the same since.

That's correct, and it's been much better, for nearly everyone.

So it's good that we don't have a separation of powers??????

Gads.....are you so dumb that you don't realize you've proven everything I claim about you Liberals/socialists/communists/Progressives/Nazis/fascists?????


Folks are gonna think I have you on retainer.

As I pointed out, we do have separation of powers and have never had a dictatorship.

The only point here is hidden by your hat.