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It can and should include both. As pointed out before Congress by both Comey himself and the head of the NSA, there was NEVER a legally acceptable reason to investigate Trump and his team after the FBI / NSA reported that there was NO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY and NO INTEL VALUE in what was 'incidentally collected'.Oh so now the claim has gone from Obama to Comey? Cant you guys get your accusations straight?
And if he is guilty, toss his Oreo ass into San Quentin.
The facts are what they are.
If there was no legal reason then Comey wouldnt be brazenly admitting he was investigating Drumpf and his homies the Russians.It can and should include both. As pointed out before Congress by both Comey himself and the head of the NSA, there was NEVER a legally acceptable reason to investigate Trump and his team after the FBI / NSA reported that there was NO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY and NO INTEL VALUE in what was 'incidentally collected'.Oh so now the claim has gone from Obama to Comey? Cant you guys get your accusations straight?
It can and should include both. As pointed out before Congress by both Comey himself and the head of the NSA, there was NEVER a legally acceptable reason to investigate Trump and his team after the FBI / NSA reported that there was NO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY and NO INTEL VALUE in what was 'incidentally collected'.Oh so now the claim has gone from Obama to Comey? Cant you guys get your accusations straight?
Obviously you forgot to pay your cable bill and missed it. FBI cant find any evidence Drumpf was wire tapped. Like zero, zilch, nada, negative integer, etc , etcApparently you haven't been paying attention or are you stupid?They already investigated Drumpfs claims and found them to be false as well as irrational. Obviously you didnt get the memo.
The raw "unmasked" NSA data found under O's FISA warrant opened up on candidate trump is surveillance..... NO? Are we splitting hairs here over the antiquated literal 'tapping of a telephone line' or are we in the 21st cent. where conversations are through a variety of media.... (concrete evidence of the latter & by the way, a large part of the hearing involved this existing FELONY data breach)
Yes we do:Yet you will of course ignore the facts and rely upon your partisan and racial speculation. What are the 'facts'? We don't know much yet..And if he is guilty, toss his Oreo ass into San Quentin.The facts are what they are.
Obviously you forgot to pay your cable bill and missed it. FBI cant find any evidence Drumpf was wire tapped. Like zero, zilch, nada, negative integer, etc , etcApparently you haven't been paying attention or are you stupid?They already investigated Drumpfs claims and found them to be false as well as irrational. Obviously you didnt get the memo.
The raw "unmasked" NSA data found under O's FISA warrant opened up on candidate trump is surveillance..... NO? Are we splitting hairs here over the antiquated literal 'tapping of a telephone line' or are we in the 21st cent. where conversations are through a variety of media.... (concrete evidence of the latter & by the way, a large part of the hearing involved this existing FELONY data breach)
Not splitting hairs- Trump claimed that President Obama ordered his phones tapped.
What is clear from the testimony is that a President has no such authority to order any surveillance.
What is also clear is that the surveillance of Trump's campaign was incidental to spying on other people covered by FISA warrents.
Trump just parroted what he heard on Breitbart- and now the Trumpsters are trying to explain away Trump's baseless lies and slander of President Obama.
Snowflakes are trying to argue that Obama did so LEGALLY. We already know he illegally collected personal info on Trump and his team, illegally gave it to the Intel agencies, and had Trump's team 'monitored' after the election...As Comey pointed out- the President of the United States has no authority to order any FISA surveillance.
Its becoming more amusing and less amazing that you dont understand your own post. Only the AG can authorize electronic surveillance.Obviously you forgot to pay your cable bill and missed it. FBI cant find any evidence Drumpf was wire tapped. Like zero, zilch, nada, negative integer, etc , etcApparently you haven't been paying attention or are you stupid?They already investigated Drumpfs claims and found them to be false as well as irrational. Obviously you didnt get the memo.
The raw "unmasked" NSA data found under O's FISA warrant opened up on candidate trump is surveillance..... NO? Are we splitting hairs here over the antiquated literal 'tapping of a telephone line' or are we in the 21st cent. where conversations are through a variety of media.... (concrete evidence of the latter & by the way, a large part of the hearing involved this existing FELONY data breach)
Not splitting hairs- Trump claimed that President Obama ordered his phones tapped.
What is clear from the testimony is that a President has no such authority to order any surveillance.
What is also clear is that the surveillance of Trump's campaign was incidental to spying on other people covered by FISA warrents.
Trump just parroted what he heard on Breitbart- and now the Trumpsters are trying to explain away Trump's baseless lies and slander of President Obama.
"(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court
No, none at all. Good lord.
"(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court
No, none at all. Good lord.
Legally...Again, Obama proved over 8 years he was never one to let the law or the Constitution stand in his way....Its becoming more amusing and less amazing that you dont understand your own post. Only the AG can authorize electronic surveillance.
So we back to the "spiracy" claim then? Thanks for playing.Legally...Again, Obama proved over 8 years he was never one to let the law or the Constitution stand in his way....Its becoming more amusing and less amazing that you dont understand your own post. Only the AG can authorize electronic surveillance.
No, we are back to you being a defiantly partisan snowflake who knows he is full of shit.So we back to the "spiracy" claim then?
That was an impressive albeit long winded deflection. Bravo.No, we are back to you being a defiantly partisan snowflake who knows he is full of shit.So we back to the "spiracy" claim then?
Obama refused to meet with the GOP for more than a year and a half after being elected. He regularly by-passed Congress to get / do what he wanted. Examples of by-passing Congress are big and bight enough for even a blind liberal douche to see:
- Took the country to war in Libya without ever going to Congress for authority to do so.
- Took the country to war in Syria without ever going before Congress for the authority to do so.
- Forged his own Un-Constitutional Treaty with Iran then by-passed Congress again to take it straight to the UN for ratification before allowing the US Congress to see it.
..and much more.
Speaking of the Illegal Iran Treaty....
Snowflakes, like yourself I am guessing, argued that the Iran deal was NOT a 'treaty' but was instead an agreement between Obama and Iran.
I actually like that bullshit explanation....mainly because now that Obama is out of the WH and no longer President and since there is no binding treaty in existence, the 'deal' is null and void. Trump is President now and is not bound by some poisonous 'deal' made between an EX-President and the leading exporter of terrorism in the middle east.
wow, looks like you're the one deflecting. what kind of mirror you got there?Needing a deflection/distraction, are you? Yes, I would imagine so.And if he is guilty, toss his Oreo ass into San Quentin.
The facts are what they are.
What appears at this writing is that Trump transition team members and possibly Trump himself had their identities revealed, were “unmasked” in the parlance, while foreign diplomats were being surveilled. The identities of American citizens were not sufficiently “minimized,” as they are required to be by law. This is a crime one would assume would put the perpetrators in prison. So far it hasn’t. More than that, such behavior is a grave threat to a free society, to all of us.
In effect, Trump was wiretapped — if not in the corny, old sense of the word, something very close. Technologically, he was wiretapped, as were several (actually many) others.
A fair amount of this happened not long before Barack Obama suddenly changed the rules regarding raw intelligence, for the first time ever allowing the NSA to share its data with 16 other intelligence agencies, thus making the dissemination of said data (i. e. leaking) many times more likely. That was done on January 12, 2017, just three scant days before Trump’s inauguration. Why did the then president finally decide to make that particular change at that extremely late date, rather than on one of the previous seven years and three hundred fifty-three days of his presidency? You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes or Watson to smell a rat.
Time to Investigate Obama, not Just Trump
they can both go.Oh so now the claim has gone from Obama to Comey? Cant you guys get your accusations straight?if you agree with me on anything, it is that comey is going to jail for illegal investigation of american citizens. I don't need your games dumb fk.I agree with you that Drumpf has done lots of illegal things like working with the enemy. Now Comey just has to prove it like he proved there was nothing to Drumpfs wire tapping claims.Ace, you can post that until the stars fall out of the sky. it's illegal. ILLEGAL. a fking bag of poopybut Putin hacked the DNC. These fkoffs are too funny.
Obviously he did something.
US Officials: Info suggests Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians - CNNPolitics.com
And if he is guilty, toss his Oreo ass into San Quentin.
The facts are what they are.
Yet you will of course ignore the facts and rely upon your partisan and racial speculation.
What are the 'facts'?
We don't know much yet.
We have this new leak from Nunes- after he railed about the leak of confidential information at the Senate hearings.
We know that the FBI is investigating possible collusion between Trump's campaign and the Russians
We know that the Russians tried to influence our election.
We have no 'facts' to support Trump's wiretapping claims.
We have absolutely nothing to support speculation that President Obama broke any law.
But then again people like you who consider a person with mixed racial heritage to be an 'oreo' don't really care about facts- its just about pursuing your racial agenda.
We have no 'facts' to support Trump's wiretapping claims.And if he is guilty, toss his Oreo ass into San Quentin.
The facts are what they are.
Yet you will of course ignore the facts and rely upon your partisan and racial speculation.
What are the 'facts'?
We don't know much yet.
We have this new leak from Nunes- after he railed about the leak of confidential information at the Senate hearings.
We know that the FBI is investigating possible collusion between Trump's campaign and the Russians
We know that the Russians tried to influence our election.
We have no 'facts' to support Trump's wiretapping claims.
We have absolutely nothing to support speculation that President Obama broke any law.
But then again people like you who consider a person with mixed racial heritage to be an 'oreo' don't really care about facts- its just about pursuing your racial agenda.
well let the congress see the warrant that authorized the investigation. Ok?If there was no legal reason then Comey wouldnt be brazenly admitting he was investigating Drumpf and his homies the Russians.It can and should include both. As pointed out before Congress by both Comey himself and the head of the NSA, there was NEVER a legally acceptable reason to investigate Trump and his team after the FBI / NSA reported that there was NO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY and NO INTEL VALUE in what was 'incidentally collected'.Oh so now the claim has gone from Obama to Comey? Cant you guys get your accusations straight?
