Today...Smashing The Lie That Nazis Were Rightwing.

[Wyatt earp]

frivolous gun laws have never been the answer to stopping violent behavior... The Nazis tried that how did that work out for them?

What is it you believe the Nazis tried?

Forcing people to believe in their socialism, you know control freak behavior like progressives do to this day.

The Nazis weren't socialists, and in fact Hitler hated socialism and and was the sworn enemy of communism. He co-opted the Nationalist Socialist Party, rather than founding his own, and never changed the name.

The Allies appeased Hitler because of his virulent hatred of communism. They thought him a good buffer against Stalin and Communism.

You sound like papa joe Kennedy.


Bullshit..


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[Wyatt earp]

frivolous gun laws have never been the answer to stopping violent behavior... The Nazis tried that how did that work out for them?

What is it you believe the Nazis tried?

Forcing people to believe in their socialism, you know control freak behavior like progressives do to this day.

The Nazis weren't socialists, and in fact Hitler hated socialism and and was the sworn enemy of communism. He co-opted the Nationalist Socialist Party, rather than founding his own, and never changed the name.

The Allies appeased Hitler because of his virulent hatred of communism. They thought him a good buffer against Stalin and Communism.

The German Labour Front proves National Socialist Germany was Socialist.

You can't read this, and say "Gee those free market Capitalists"

German Labour Front - Wikipedia

Third Reich not only nationalized all trade unions, but decreed union membership as a mandatory duty, forcing every worker to join the state-operated union.[1]

Its leader was Robert Ley, who stated its aim was 'to create a true social and productive community' (Smelster, 1988). Theoretically, DAF existed to act as a medium through which workers and owners could mutually represent their interests. Wages were set by the 12 DAF trustees. The employees were given relatively high set wages and security of employment, and dismissal was increasingly made difficult. Social security and leisure programmes were started, canteens, breaks, and regular working times were established, and German workers were generally satisfied by what the DAF gave them in repayment for their absolute loyalty.

Following the National Socialist’s Volksgemeinschaft approach towards developing a greater “people’s community”, the DAF expanded or established new social, educational, sports, health, and entertainment programs for German workers via the Strength through Joy, which included factory libraries and gardens, periodic breaks, swimming pools, low-priced hot meals, adult education programs, periodic work breaks, physical education, sports facilities, gymnastic training, orchestral music during lunch breaks, free tickets to concerts and opera, and subsidized vacations that saw over 10.3 million Germans signed up by 1938.[2] The DAF financed the building of ocean-going vessels that permitted German workers to pay minimal prices to sail to many foreign destinations. Up to six ocean liners were operating just before the start of World War II. According to the chief of the Associated Press in Berlin, Louis P. Lochner, ticket prices for ocean streamer vessels ranged from twelve to sixteen marks for “a full week on such a steamer.”[3] For those who desired vacations closer to home, the DAF constructed spa and summer resort complexes. One of the largest was located on the island of Reugen, where the DAF financed and erected a “summer resort with 20,000 beds.”.[4]

To help finance such ambitious social programs, the DAF also operated one of the largest financial institutions—the Bank of German Labor—along with additional community programs such as medical screening, occupational training, legal assistance and programs to improve the company’s working environment.[5] The DAF was one of the largest National Socialist organizations, boasting of over 35,000 full-time employees by 1939.[6] To help Hitler keep his promise to have every German capable of owning an affordable car (Volkswagen—the People’s Car) the DAF subsidized the construction of an automobile factory, which was partially paid from worker’s payroll deductions. None of the 340,000 workers who were paying for a car ever received one, since the factory had to be retooled for war production after Nazi Germany invaded Poland.

In the case of workplace abuses, the DAF set up worker councils to regulate and manage business practices, along with working hours and wages, and conflicts rising between employers and workers. In 1934, worker councils dismissed over 50 workers, while in the same year 13 employers were punished through the expropriation of their business.[7]

Employment contracts created under the Weimar Republic were abolished and renewed under new circumstances in the DAF. Employers could demand more of their workers, while at the same time workers were given increased security of work and increasingly enrolled into social security programmes for workers. The organisation, by its own definition, combated capitalism and liberalism, but also revolution against the factory owners and the National Socialist state. The DAF, however, did openly prefer to have large companies nationalised by the German state, instead of privately owned companies.

DAF membership was theoretically voluntary, but any workers in any area of German commerce or industry would have found it hard to get a job without being a member. Membership required a fee within the range of 15 pfennig to three Reichsmark, depending on the category a member fell into in a large scale of 20 membership groups. A substantially large amount of income was raised through fees. In 1934, the total intake was 300,000,000 Reichsmark.

There were two main components of the DAF and these were:

• Nationalsozialistische Betriebszellenorganisation (NSBO; National Socialist Factory Organization)
• Nationalsozialistische Handels- und Gewerbeorganisation (NSHAGO; National Socialist Trade and Industry Organization)

Several other sub-organisations were set up:

• Kraft durch Freude (KdF; Strength through Joy) – Organisation giving the workers cheap/free holidays in addition to subsidised sporting and leisure facilities.
• Schönheit der Arbeit (SdA; Beauty of Labour) – Aimed to make workplaces more enticing to workers (e.g., renovations of outdated factories, new canteens for workers, smoking-free rooms, cleaner working spaces etc.).
• Reichsarbeitsdienst (RAD; Reich Labour Service) – A solution to the unemployment crisis the Nazis inherited, it provided cheap labour for big state projects, such as the Reichsautobahn motorways. It provided work security to many unemployed people, and was made compulsory, in 1935, for unemployed men aged 16–25 years.

The Front also organised the Reichsberufswettkampf, a national vocational competition.

He took all the crosses down on churches across Germany and said "when you pray, pray to me"

Remember that?


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[SobieskiSavedEurope]

FDR lengthened the Great Depression?
That's hilarious because he achieved faster economic growth than other U.S presidents of the 20th century.

Germans caused lots of damage in WW1 too.... In fact more White Christians were killed in WW1, than in WW2... A fact which is generally neglected.

So, is it a product of Fascism, or a product of being German to cause mega wars?

Because Germany in WW1 wasn't Fascist..... In fact it was a Capitalist Monarchy, no?

Capitalist or monarchy, which was it? You can't have both. I don't know if they were fascist or not, that predates the term. They wanted to take over much of Europe and Russia though.





FDR Was a Great Leader, But His Economic Plan Isn't One to Follow


But Roosevelt the economist is unworthy of emulation. His first goal was to reduce unemployment. Of his own great stimulus package, the National Industrial Recovery Act, he said: "The law I have just signed was passed to put people back to work." Here, FDR failed abysmally. In the 1920s, unemployment had averaged below 5 percent. Blundering when they knew better, Herbert Hoover, his Treasury, the Federal Reserve and Congress drove that rate up to 25 percent. Roosevelt pulled unemployment down, but nowhere near enough to claim sustained recovery. From 1933 to 1940, FDR's first two terms, it averaged in the high teens. Even if you add in all the work relief jobs, as some economists do, Roosevelt-era unemployment averages well above 10 percent. That's a level Obama has referred to once or twice -- as a nightmare.

The second goal of the New Deal was to stimulate the private sector. Instead, it supplanted it. To justify their own work, New Dealers attacked not merely those guilty of white-collar crimes but the entire business community -- the "princes of property," FDR called them. Washington's policy evolved into a lethal combo of spending and retribution. Never did either U.S. investors or foreigners get a sense that the United States was now open for business. As a result, the Depression lasted half a decade longer than it had to, from 1929 to 1940 rather than, say, 1929 to 1936. The Dow Jones industrial average didn't return to its summer 1929 high until 1954. The monetary shock of the first years of the Depression was immense, but it was this duration that made the Depression Great.

Capitalism doesn't have to include a good Democracy, Pinochet for example can be seen as a Totalitarian Capitalist dictator.

FDR achieved the best economic growth in 20th century America, but somehow worsened the Great Depression? really?

Look at the Unemployment stats, FDR lengthen the depression.

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The bottom graph admits the top 2 Presidential term job creation rates were from FDR.

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia

The UE shot up in 1938, I don't even have to look at your stupid wiki bullshit that you could ammend at any time..the UE shot down to like zero..


Because we were at fucking war.

Let's say if someone tops the best economic growth 9 out of 10 years, but has the worst economic growth 1 out of 10.... How do you figure that makes it the worst?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Capitalist or monarchy, which was it? You can't have both. I don't know if they were fascist or not, that predates the term. They wanted to take over much of Europe and Russia though.





FDR Was a Great Leader, But His Economic Plan Isn't One to Follow


But Roosevelt the economist is unworthy of emulation. His first goal was to reduce unemployment. Of his own great stimulus package, the National Industrial Recovery Act, he said: "The law I have just signed was passed to put people back to work." Here, FDR failed abysmally. In the 1920s, unemployment had averaged below 5 percent. Blundering when they knew better, Herbert Hoover, his Treasury, the Federal Reserve and Congress drove that rate up to 25 percent. Roosevelt pulled unemployment down, but nowhere near enough to claim sustained recovery. From 1933 to 1940, FDR's first two terms, it averaged in the high teens. Even if you add in all the work relief jobs, as some economists do, Roosevelt-era unemployment averages well above 10 percent. That's a level Obama has referred to once or twice -- as a nightmare.

The second goal of the New Deal was to stimulate the private sector. Instead, it supplanted it. To justify their own work, New Dealers attacked not merely those guilty of white-collar crimes but the entire business community -- the "princes of property," FDR called them. Washington's policy evolved into a lethal combo of spending and retribution. Never did either U.S. investors or foreigners get a sense that the United States was now open for business. As a result, the Depression lasted half a decade longer than it had to, from 1929 to 1940 rather than, say, 1929 to 1936. The Dow Jones industrial average didn't return to its summer 1929 high until 1954. The monetary shock of the first years of the Depression was immense, but it was this duration that made the Depression Great.

Capitalism doesn't have to include a good Democracy, Pinochet for example can be seen as a Totalitarian Capitalist dictator.

FDR achieved the best economic growth in 20th century America, but somehow worsened the Great Depression? really?

Look at the Unemployment stats, FDR lengthen the depression.

.

The bottom graph admits the top 2 Presidential term job creation rates were from FDR.

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia

The UE shot up in 1938, I don't even have to look at your stupid wiki bullshit that you could ammend at any time..the UE shot down to like zero..


Because we were at fucking war.

Let's say if someone tops the best economic growth 9 out of 10 years, but has the worst economic growth 1 out of 10.... How do you figure that makes it the worst?

So in your world it would of happened with out WWII ?


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[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Capitalism doesn't have to include a good Democracy, Pinochet for example can be seen as a Totalitarian Capitalist dictator.

FDR achieved the best economic growth in 20th century America, but somehow worsened the Great Depression? really?

Look at the Unemployment stats, FDR lengthen the depression.

.

The bottom graph admits the top 2 Presidential term job creation rates were from FDR.

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia

The UE shot up in 1938, I don't even have to look at your stupid wiki bullshit that you could ammend at any time..the UE shot down to like zero..


Because we were at fucking war.

Let's say if someone tops the best economic growth 9 out of 10 years, but has the worst economic growth 1 out of 10.... How do you figure that makes it the worst?

So in your world it would of happened with out WWII ?


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Isn't military spending government spending, just like public works spending?

So, what's so different between the 2?

Both rack on debt, but create jobs.

Here's the GDP economic growth by year.... Clearly FDR had some strong economic growth before WW2 had even started.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Look at the Unemployment stats, FDR lengthen the depression.

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The bottom graph admits the top 2 Presidential term job creation rates were from FDR.

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia

The UE shot up in 1938, I don't even have to look at your stupid wiki bullshit that you could ammend at any time..the UE shot down to like zero..


Because we were at fucking war.

Let's say if someone tops the best economic growth 9 out of 10 years, but has the worst economic growth 1 out of 10.... How do you figure that makes it the worst?

So in your world it would of happened with out WWII ?


.

Isn't military spending government spending, just like public works spending?

So, what's so different between the 2?

Both rack on debt, but create jobs.

Here's the GDP economic growth by year.... Clearly FDR had some strong economic growth before WW2 had even started.

You still want to deny that spike in unemployment in 1938 do you?

 

[Wyatt earp]

The bottom graph admits the top 2 Presidential term job creation rates were from FDR.

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia

The UE shot up in 1938, I don't even have to look at your stupid wiki bullshit that you could ammend at any time..the UE shot down to like zero..


Because we were at fucking war.

Let's say if someone tops the best economic growth 9 out of 10 years, but has the worst economic growth 1 out of 10.... How do you figure that makes it the worst?

So in your world it would of happened with out WWII ?


.

Isn't military spending government spending, just like public works spending?

So, what's so different between the 2?

Both rack on debt, but create jobs.

Here's the GDP economic growth by year.... Clearly FDR had some strong economic growth before WW2 had even started.

You still want to deny that spike in unemployment in 1938 do you?


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And what is this shit anyways you're a Pollock like me , FDR gave away half of fucking Europe..


Hope he is burning in hell.


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[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The bottom graph admits the top 2 Presidential term job creation rates were from FDR.

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia

The UE shot up in 1938, I don't even have to look at your stupid wiki bullshit that you could ammend at any time..the UE shot down to like zero..


Because we were at fucking war.

Let's say if someone tops the best economic growth 9 out of 10 years, but has the worst economic growth 1 out of 10.... How do you figure that makes it the worst?

So in your world it would of happened with out WWII ?


.

Isn't military spending government spending, just like public works spending?

So, what's so different between the 2?

Both rack on debt, but create jobs.

Here's the GDP economic growth by year.... Clearly FDR had some strong economic growth before WW2 had even started.

You still want to deny that spike in unemployment in 1938 do you?


View attachment 126663

I never said that there was not a recession of 1938, it happened because of cutting New Deal stimulus, and raising taxes.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The UE shot up in 1938, I don't even have to look at your stupid wiki bullshit that you could ammend at any time..the UE shot down to like zero..


Because we were at fucking war.

Let's say if someone tops the best economic growth 9 out of 10 years, but has the worst economic growth 1 out of 10.... How do you figure that makes it the worst?

So in your world it would of happened with out WWII ?


.

Isn't military spending government spending, just like public works spending?

So, what's so different between the 2?

Both rack on debt, but create jobs.

Here's the GDP economic growth by year.... Clearly FDR had some strong economic growth before WW2 had even started.

You still want to deny that spike in unemployment in 1938 do you?


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And what is this shit anyways you're a Pollock like me , FDR gave away half of fucking Europe..


Hope he is burning in hell.


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I certainly don't support FDR's lend-llease aid to Soviets, or sitting with Stalin in the Yalta Conference to throw Poland to the Soviets.

However, I do support many other policies of FDR.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The UE shot up in 1938, I don't even have to look at your stupid wiki bullshit that you could ammend at any time..the UE shot down to like zero..


Because we were at fucking war.

Let's say if someone tops the best economic growth 9 out of 10 years, but has the worst economic growth 1 out of 10.... How do you figure that makes it the worst?

So in your world it would of happened with out WWII ?


.

Isn't military spending government spending, just like public works spending?

So, what's so different between the 2?

Both rack on debt, but create jobs.

Here's the GDP economic growth by year.... Clearly FDR had some strong economic growth before WW2 had even started.

You still want to deny that spike in unemployment in 1938 do you?


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I never said that there was not a recession of 1938, it happened because of cutting New Deal stimulus, and raising taxes.

Yet your trying to tell me that FDR policies stopped the depression, the only thing that stopped the depression was WWII..

That was a fluke in history, that's the only thing that made the American middle class great..



No competition .

 

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

JFK would be to the right of almost every Republican Congressman including Rand Paul

Mental illness on display

The mental illness is you, JFK was one of the last conservative Democrats, I would vote for Democrats today if his type existed ..


Dumb fuck.


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[Wyatt earp]

JFK would be to the right of almost every Republican Congressman including Rand Paul

Mental illness on display

The mental illness is you, JFK was one of the last conservative Democrats, I would vote for Democrats today if his type existed ..


Dumb fuck.


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[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Let's say if someone tops the best economic growth 9 out of 10 years, but has the worst economic growth 1 out of 10.... How do you figure that makes it the worst?

So in your world it would of happened with out WWII ?


.

Isn't military spending government spending, just like public works spending?

So, what's so different between the 2?

Both rack on debt, but create jobs.

Here's the GDP economic growth by year.... Clearly FDR had some strong economic growth before WW2 had even started.

You still want to deny that spike in unemployment in 1938 do you?


View attachment 126663

I never said that there was not a recession of 1938, it happened because of cutting New Deal stimulus, and raising taxes.

Yet your trying to tell me that FDR policies stopped the depression, the only thing that stopped the depression was WWII..

That was a fluke in history, that's the only thing that made the American middle class great..



No competition .

Uh, the graph I posted earlier specifically showed that while during WW2 FDR showed higher GDP growth than he did pre-WW2, he still amassed huge economic growth between 1934 - 1938, those 4 years beat any other president since FDR.

 

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

"And I am grateful, finally, that I can rely in the coming months on so many others--on a distinguished running-mate who brings unity to our ticket and strength to our Platform, Lyndon Johnson--on one of the most articulate statesmen of our time, Adlai Stevenson--on a great spokesman for our needs as a Nation and a people, Stuart Symington--and on that fighting campaigner whose support I welcome, President Harry S. Truman-- on my traveling companion in Wisconsin and West Virginia, Senator Hubert Humphrey. On Paul Butler, our devoted and courageous Chairman.

I feel a lot safer now that they are on my side again. And I am proud of the contrast with our Republican competitors. For their ranks are apparently so thin that not one challenger has come forth with both the competence and the courage to make theirs an open convention."

Yeah, JFK relied upon Humphrey and Stevenson, two great conservatives

 

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

But, if by a "Liberal," they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people - their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties - someone who believes that we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say that I'm a "Liberal." [Applause.]

John F. Kennedy: Speech of Senator John F. Kennedy, Commodore Hotel, New York, NY, Acceptance of Party Nomination


And tonight we salute Adlai Stevenson as an eloquent spokesman for the effort to achieve an intelligent foreign policy. [Applause.]

 

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

Only liberalism, in short, can repair our national power, restore our national purpose, and liberate our national energies. And the only basic issue in the 1960 presidential campaign is whether our Government will fall in a conservative rut and die there, or whether we will move ahead in the liberal spirit of daring, of breaking new ground, of doing in our generation what Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson did in their time of influence and responsibility. [Applause.]

CrusaderFrank

Tonight we salute George Meany as a symbol of that struggle [applause] and as a reminder that the fight to eliminate poverty and human exploitation is a fight that goes on in our own day. But in 1960 the cause of liberalism cannot content itself with carrying on the fight for human justice and economic liberalism here at home. For here and around the world the fear of war hangs over us every morning and every night. It lies, expressed or silent, in the minds of every American. We cannot banish it by repeating that we are economically first or that we are militarily first, for saying so doesn't make it so. More will be needed than good will missions or talking back to Soviet politicians or increasing the tempo of the arms race. More will be needed than good intentions, for we know where that paving leads.

John F. Kennedy: Speech of Senator John F. Kennedy, Commodore Hotel, New York, NY, Acceptance of Party Nomination

 

[Wyatt earp]

JFK would be to the right of almost every Republican Congressman including Rand Paul

Mental illness on display

The mental illness is you, JFK was one of the last conservative Democrats, I would vote for Democrats today if his type existed ..


Dumb fuck.


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[Wyatt earp]

"And I am grateful, finally, that I can rely in the coming months on so many others--on a distinguished running-mate who brings unity to our ticket and strength to our Platform, Lyndon Johnson--on one of the most articulate statesmen of our time, Adlai Stevenson--on a great spokesman for our needs as a Nation and a people, Stuart Symington--and on that fighting campaigner whose support I welcome, President Harry S. Truman-- on my traveling companion in Wisconsin and West Virginia, Senator Hubert Humphrey. On Paul Butler, our devoted and courageous Chairman.

I feel a lot safer now that they are on my side again. And I am proud of the contrast with our Republican competitors. For their ranks are apparently so thin that not one challenger has come forth with both the competence and the courage to make theirs an open convention."

Yeah, JFK relied upon Humphrey and Stevenson, two great conservatives

So in your world JFK didn't start lowering taxes?



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[Wyatt earp]

Only liberalism, in short, can repair our national power, restore our national purpose, and liberate our national energies. And the only basic issue in the 1960 presidential campaign is whether our Government will fall in a conservative rut and die there, or whether we will move ahead in the liberal spirit of daring, of breaking new ground, of doing in our generation what Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson did in their time of influence and responsibility. [Applause.]

CrusaderFrank

Tonight we salute George Meany as a symbol of that struggle [applause] and as a reminder that the fight to eliminate poverty and human exploitation is a fight that goes on in our own day. But in 1960 the cause of liberalism cannot content itself with carrying on the fight for human justice and economic liberalism here at home. For here and around the world the fear of war hangs over us every morning and every night. It lies, expressed or silent, in the minds of every American. We cannot banish it by repeating that we are economically first or that we are militarily first, for saying so doesn't make it so. More will be needed than good will missions or talking back to Soviet politicians or increasing the tempo of the arms race. More will be needed than good intentions, for we know where that paving leads.

John F. Kennedy: Speech of Senator John F. Kennedy, Commodore Hotel, New York, NY, Acceptance of Party Nomination

Dude you're an embarrassing yourself, JFK wouldn't even be in the republican party today, he would be considered on the Fringe of the right..

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The UE shot up in 1938, I don't even have to look at your stupid wiki bullshit that you could ammend at any time..the UE shot down to like zero..


Because we were at fucking war.

Let's say if someone tops the best economic growth 9 out of 10 years, but has the worst economic growth 1 out of 10.... How do you figure that makes it the worst?

So in your world it would of happened with out WWII ?


.

Isn't military spending government spending, just like public works spending?

So, what's so different between the 2?

Both rack on debt, but create jobs.

Here's the GDP economic growth by year.... Clearly FDR had some strong economic growth before WW2 had even started.

You still want to deny that spike in unemployment in 1938 do you?


View attachment 126663

And what is this shit anyways you're a Pollock like me , FDR gave away half of fucking Europe..


Hope he is burning in hell.


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Poland's right wing is much different than the one in the U.S.A.

While the ruling Polish right wing party PiS or Law, and Justice stands strong against Muslim refugees, and Abortion.... They increased funding for healthcare, and created aid for families to have children which they taxed businesses for.

Poles are not like Americans.

I support all the actions of the Polish right wing I just listed, BTW.