Today...Smashing The Lie That Nazis Were Rightwing.

[PoliticalChic]

Bonus points if you:
1. Oppose labor unions and want to see them outlawed.

2. Agree that there is a “war on white people” and that ‘reverse-racism’ is a real problem in the United States.

3. Believe that gays present a real threat to “traditional American values” and the “traditional American family.”

4. Hate “Communists” and are willing to apply that label to everyone you disagree with politically.

1. No conservative wants that.....unions were outlawed in communist countries....See the Polish labor movement under the soviet union....

2. Ask bakers, wedding photographers, and the parents of kids who are now allowed to take steroids and undergo surgery to prevent gender development.......

3. Yes....hating people who murdered 100 million innocent men, women and children all around the world....only a left winger would see that as a problem......and only the left labels everyone who disagrees with them with labels that do not apply to them...

Communists? Okay.

They had lots in common with those right wing Nazis. I guess you extremists have more in common than you care to admit.

nazis were not Right wing....communists were not Right wing.....both were types of socialism, which is the direct opposite of American Conservatism...

Okay, the Nationals Socialists fought running street battles against true socialist and real communists, but they were not right wing. Okay.

The NAZI's were right wing in everything but name

Two Leftwingers:

 

[PoliticalChic]

No matter how many times you post the lie that the Nazis were not right wing extremists, you can't make it true.

Fascists are right wing extremists, racist, xenophobic and authoritarian. All were, always will be.




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Nazis were definitely Socialists and were also definitely socially Right wing.

National Socialist is actually the perfect term for them, they were indeed Nationalist Socialists.

Nazi party would be lined up in back of trump and republican party

The Nazis supported the very same programs as Franklin Roosevelt....

....Roosevelt's New Deal was modeled on Mussolini's programs....

Socialists, Fascists, Nazis....communists......and Liberals: peas in the same pod.



Just imagine....if only you had an education.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Bonus points if you:
1. Oppose labor unions and want to see them outlawed.

2. Agree that there is a “war on white people” and that ‘reverse-racism’ is a real problem in the United States.

3. Believe that gays present a real threat to “traditional American values” and the “traditional American family.”

4. Hate “Communists” and are willing to apply that label to everyone you disagree with politically.

1. No conservative wants that.....unions were outlawed in communist countries....See the Polish labor movement under the soviet union....

2. Ask bakers, wedding photographers, and the parents of kids who are now allowed to take steroids and undergo surgery to prevent gender development.......

3. Yes....hating people who murdered 100 million innocent men, women and children all around the world....only a left winger would see that as a problem......and only the left labels everyone who disagrees with them with labels that do not apply to them...

Nazis liked their workers to be slaves
Conservatives are working towards it

"Nazis liked their workers to be slaves"

Your lies begin with your avi, huh?


Do these sound like slave programs?

"The Nationalsozialistische Volkswohlfahrt (NSV), meaning "National Socialist People's Welfare", was a social welfare organization during the Third Reich. The NSV was established in 1933,.... The NSV became established as the single Nazi Party welfare organ in May 1933.[1] .... the programme was massively expanded, so that the régime deemed it worthy to be called the "greatest social institution in the world." One method of expansion was to absorb, or in NSDAP parlance coordinate, already existing but non-Nazi charity organizations. NSV was the second largest Nazi group organization by 1939, second only to the German Labor Front.



The only association with slavery is found in the Democrat Party, the one you support.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Bonus points if you:
1. Oppose labor unions and want to see them outlawed.

2. Agree that there is a “war on white people” and that ‘reverse-racism’ is a real problem in the United States.

3. Believe that gays present a real threat to “traditional American values” and the “traditional American family.”

4. Hate “Communists” and are willing to apply that label to everyone you disagree with politically.

1. No conservative wants that.....unions were outlawed in communist countries....See the Polish labor movement under the soviet union....

2. Ask bakers, wedding photographers, and the parents of kids who are now allowed to take steroids and undergo surgery to prevent gender development.......

3. Yes....hating people who murdered 100 million innocent men, women and children all around the world....only a left winger would see that as a problem......and only the left labels everyone who disagrees with them with labels that do not apply to them...

Nazis liked their workers to be slaves
Conservatives are working towards it

Too a guy, the NAZIS were pathetic imbeciles

Pssst....the only 'pathetic imbeciles' are the ones who don't learn....you: the Nazis were Leftists just as socialist always are.

That includes Liberals.

 

[rightwinger]

Bonus points if you:
1. Oppose labor unions and want to see them outlawed.

2. Agree that there is a “war on white people” and that ‘reverse-racism’ is a real problem in the United States.

3. Believe that gays present a real threat to “traditional American values” and the “traditional American family.”

4. Hate “Communists” and are willing to apply that label to everyone you disagree with politically.

1. No conservative wants that.....unions were outlawed in communist countries....See the Polish labor movement under the soviet union....

2. Ask bakers, wedding photographers, and the parents of kids who are now allowed to take steroids and undergo surgery to prevent gender development.......

3. Yes....hating people who murdered 100 million innocent men, women and children all around the world....only a left winger would see that as a problem......and only the left labels everyone who disagrees with them with labels that do not apply to them...

Communists? Okay.

They had lots in common with those right wing Nazis. I guess you extremists have more in common than you care to admit.

nazis were not Right wing....communists were not Right wing.....both were types of socialism, which is the direct opposite of American Conservatism...

Okay, the Nationals Socialists fought running street battles against true socialist and real communists, but they were not right wing. Okay.

The NAZI's were right wing in everything but name

Two Leftwingers:

You missed one

 

[PoliticalChic]

Bonus points if you:
1. Oppose labor unions and want to see them outlawed.

2. Agree that there is a “war on white people” and that ‘reverse-racism’ is a real problem in the United States.

3. Believe that gays present a real threat to “traditional American values” and the “traditional American family.”

4. Hate “Communists” and are willing to apply that label to everyone you disagree with politically.

"After he was released in 1924, Hitler used the rest of the 1920’s to consolidate the Nazis and turn them into a nationwide movement. The SA (known colloquially as Brownshirts) were reorganized into an effective force of street activists, Hitler established his own national daily newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter, and continued to build his following and spread his message of nationalism mixed with progressive social policies. The Nazi banner is a superb symbol of Hitler’s ideology – the red banner of socialism with the Aryan nationalist symbol of the swastika in the middle."
Adolf Hitler – Progressive Pioneer




So....Hitler was on the same side of the aisle as you are.

Coincidence?

Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism

Unrestrained scapegoating of Muslims and Mexicans......THAT is the reason you are suffering....only Conservatives can protect you
Destruction of labor unions
Sacrificing the environment for profit

"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."

Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.

Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:

Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."

It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.


".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.

The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker




Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...

"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics



Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)

German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.

 

[rightwinger]

Bonus points if you:
1. Oppose labor unions and want to see them outlawed.

2. Agree that there is a “war on white people” and that ‘reverse-racism’ is a real problem in the United States.

3. Believe that gays present a real threat to “traditional American values” and the “traditional American family.”

4. Hate “Communists” and are willing to apply that label to everyone you disagree with politically.

"After he was released in 1924, Hitler used the rest of the 1920’s to consolidate the Nazis and turn them into a nationwide movement. The SA (known colloquially as Brownshirts) were reorganized into an effective force of street activists, Hitler established his own national daily newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter, and continued to build his following and spread his message of nationalism mixed with progressive social policies. The Nazi banner is a superb symbol of Hitler’s ideology – the red banner of socialism with the Aryan nationalist symbol of the swastika in the middle."
Adolf Hitler – Progressive Pioneer




So....Hitler was on the same side of the aisle as you are.

Coincidence?

Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism

Unrestrained scapegoating of Muslims and Mexicans......THAT is the reason you are suffering....only Conservatives can protect you
Destruction of labor unions
Sacrificing the environment for profit

"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."

Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.

Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:

Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."

It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.


".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.

The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker




Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...

"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics



Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)

German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.

Frau Braun

Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. No conservative wants that.....unions were outlawed in communist countries....See the Polish labor movement under the soviet union....

2. Ask bakers, wedding photographers, and the parents of kids who are now allowed to take steroids and undergo surgery to prevent gender development.......

3. Yes....hating people who murdered 100 million innocent men, women and children all around the world....only a left winger would see that as a problem......and only the left labels everyone who disagrees with them with labels that do not apply to them...

Communists? Okay.

They had lots in common with those right wing Nazis. I guess you extremists have more in common than you care to admit.

nazis were not Right wing....communists were not Right wing.....both were types of socialism, which is the direct opposite of American Conservatism...

Okay, the Nationals Socialists fought running street battles against true socialist and real communists, but they were not right wing. Okay.

The NAZI's were right wing in everything but name

No...they weren't...they were just open about their racism vs. the international communists who hid their racism.

Okay. Out of here. Anymore exposure to you could cause some sort of lasting damage

Too late.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This one again. The OP is going to convince us that JFK and RFK were Nazis.

You have the same first response every time: you never address the substance of the OP and insult the writer.

The author of this thread says that Liberalism, Communism, Nazism, and Fascism are one and the same.

Therefore, the Liberal Kennedy's must have been Nazis.

I want to hear her prove that.

By today's practical application of titles, Kennedy is about as "Liberal" as Rush.

Dementia troubling you?

JFK, RFK, Ted Kennedy were all liberals. Of course they had conservative stands on 'some' issues, but that is how intellectually honest men present themselves

Is that the same Ted Kennedy who allied himself with the Kremlin against a United Stated President?


"In his book, which came out this week, Kengor focuses on a KGB letter written at the height of the Cold War that shows that Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) offered to assist Soviet leaders in formulating a public relations strategy to counter President Reagan’s foreign policy and to complicate his re-election efforts.

The letter, dated May 14, 1983, was sent from the head of the KGB to Yuri Andropov, who was then General Secretary of the Soviet Union’s Communist Party.

In his letter, KGB head Viktor Chebrikov offered Andropov his interpretation of Kennedy’s offer. Former U.S. Sen. John Tunney (D-Calif.) had traveled to Moscow on behalf of Kennedy to seek out a partnership with Andropov and other Soviet officials, Kengor claims in his book."
Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit

Ace of Spades HQ


Letter Details Kennedy Offer To USSR | Sweetness & Light

 

[PoliticalChic]

Bonus points if you:
1. Oppose labor unions and want to see them outlawed.

2. Agree that there is a “war on white people” and that ‘reverse-racism’ is a real problem in the United States.

3. Believe that gays present a real threat to “traditional American values” and the “traditional American family.”

4. Hate “Communists” and are willing to apply that label to everyone you disagree with politically.

"After he was released in 1924, Hitler used the rest of the 1920’s to consolidate the Nazis and turn them into a nationwide movement. The SA (known colloquially as Brownshirts) were reorganized into an effective force of street activists, Hitler established his own national daily newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter, and continued to build his following and spread his message of nationalism mixed with progressive social policies. The Nazi banner is a superb symbol of Hitler’s ideology – the red banner of socialism with the Aryan nationalist symbol of the swastika in the middle."
Adolf Hitler – Progressive Pioneer




So....Hitler was on the same side of the aisle as you are.

Coincidence?

Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism

Unrestrained scapegoating of Muslims and Mexicans......THAT is the reason you are suffering....only Conservatives can protect you
Destruction of labor unions
Sacrificing the environment for profit

"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."

Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.

Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:

Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."

It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.


".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.

The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker




Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...

"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics



Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)

German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.

Frau Braun

Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis

"Frau Braun" refers to Nazis....like your side.....I'm on the Right.


When the truths that I provide......and, truth is my stock in trade.....irritate, annoy, anger and aggravate one of your low level IQ, you behave in exactly the same way you would have lo those many decades ago, when you were a wee lying lad.

What is the instantaneous reaction of an undisciplined, immature, puerile, self-absorbed creature?


Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????


Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....

or

"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....


What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Of course it would.... How many people would be homeless without government programs?.... How many people would die of no healthcare without social programs? .... How many people would die from lack of food?

How few would need it if it wasn't for government? The bigger government gets the more people need it.

So, it's just some kind of coincidence that the 2 biggest economic growth Presidents in America in the 20th century, came from FDR, and LBJ.... Who both introduced social programs?

Wrong twit.....FDR lenghtened and deepened the GReat Depression......and LBJ was living off the Tax revenue Kennedy created with his tax cuts.....

And the biggest thing........World War 2 destroyed the industrial capacity and the economies of all of Europe.......no one could compete with us after the war....a war created by socialists...

FDR lengthened the Great Depression?
That's hilarious because he achieved faster economic growth than other U.S presidents of the 20th century.

Germans caused lots of damage in WW1 too.... In fact more White Christians were killed in WW1, than in WW2... A fact which is generally neglected.

So, is it a product of Fascism, or a product of being German to cause mega wars?

Because Germany in WW1 wasn't Fascist..... In fact it was a Capitalist Monarchy, no?

Gads, you're a moron.

Take notes, because you won't get this in government school:


1. Republican Harding faced as serious a recession as Roosevelt did, and solved it in a year and a half.

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com



Know why? 'Cause Roosevelt wanted it to be.

... he made it last longer, by a multiple of five, from most previous depressions/recessions.....

It sure was a good excuse for overturning the Constitution.





4. Mull this over: FDR was good friends with Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.
His New Deal was copied from Mussolini's economic plans.
He wanted the same power that other dictators had.
And he knew how to get it: keep the recession going.


And he did.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nazis supported the environment, and fair pay.

Sure, there's nothing like a world war littered with bodies to fertilize mother Earth. Yes, they got their bread rations until they got shipped out into Hitler's meat grinder. You are living in an alternative universe.

I didn't say Nazis were particularly rational environmentalists.... But.. They did support the environment.

Nazi Germany and Environment

NAZI GREENS - An Inconvenient History | martindurkin.com


Articles: Green Lebensraum: The Nazi Roots of Sustainable Development

Actually....the Nazis invented earth-worship.

1. One spin-off of the Enlightenment was the desire to find new myths that would transcend daily existence and take one to a higher level of purification. Proto-fascist, and founder of ecology, Ernst Haeckel, invested nature-worship with the belief that all matter was alive and possessed mental attributes. In ‘monism,’ he brought together hostility to Christianity and propaganda for Darwinism, a nature cult and theories of hygiene and selective breeding. J.W. Burrow, “The Crisis of Reason: European Thought, 1848-1914,” p. 218-19

b. “In 1867 the German zoologist Ernst Haeckel coined the term 'ecology' and began to establish it as a scientific discipline dedicated to studying
the interactions between organism and environment. Haeckel believed in nordic racial superiority,
strenuously opposed race mixing and enthusiastically supported racial
eugenics. Haeckel contributed to that special variety of German
thought which served as the seed bed for National Socialism. He
became one of Germany's major ideologists for racism, nationalism
and imperialism…he fulminated in antisemitic tones…played a
key role in the establishment of the Nazi movement.” Eco Fascism / Fascist Ideology : the Green Wing of the Nazi Party and Its Historical Antecedents by Peter Staudenmaier | Nazism | Nazi Germany


Liberal's environmentalism is a spin-off of yet another Nazi program.....but they use it to confiscate private property.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How few would need it if it wasn't for government? The bigger government gets the more people need it.

So, it's just some kind of coincidence that the 2 biggest economic growth Presidents in America in the 20th century, came from FDR, and LBJ.... Who both introduced social programs?

Wrong twit.....FDR lenghtened and deepened the GReat Depression......and LBJ was living off the Tax revenue Kennedy created with his tax cuts.....

And the biggest thing........World War 2 destroyed the industrial capacity and the economies of all of Europe.......no one could compete with us after the war....a war created by socialists...

FDR lengthened the Great Depression?
That's hilarious because he achieved faster economic growth than other U.S presidents of the 20th century.

Germans caused lots of damage in WW1 too.... In fact more White Christians were killed in WW1, than in WW2... A fact which is generally neglected.

So, is it a product of Fascism, or a product of being German to cause mega wars?

Because Germany in WW1 wasn't Fascist..... In fact it was a Capitalist Monarchy, no?

Capitalist or monarchy, which was it? You can't have both. I don't know if they were fascist or not, that predates the term. They wanted to take over much of Europe and Russia though.





FDR Was a Great Leader, But His Economic Plan Isn't One to Follow


But Roosevelt the economist is unworthy of emulation. His first goal was to reduce unemployment. Of his own great stimulus package, the National Industrial Recovery Act, he said: "The law I have just signed was passed to put people back to work." Here, FDR failed abysmally. In the 1920s, unemployment had averaged below 5 percent. Blundering when they knew better, Herbert Hoover, his Treasury, the Federal Reserve and Congress drove that rate up to 25 percent. Roosevelt pulled unemployment down, but nowhere near enough to claim sustained recovery. From 1933 to 1940, FDR's first two terms, it averaged in the high teens. Even if you add in all the work relief jobs, as some economists do, Roosevelt-era unemployment averages well above 10 percent. That's a level Obama has referred to once or twice -- as a nightmare.

The second goal of the New Deal was to stimulate the private sector. Instead, it supplanted it. To justify their own work, New Dealers attacked not merely those guilty of white-collar crimes but the entire business community -- the "princes of property," FDR called them. Washington's policy evolved into a lethal combo of spending and retribution. Never did either U.S. investors or foreigners get a sense that the United States was now open for business. As a result, the Depression lasted half a decade longer than it had to, from 1929 to 1940 rather than, say, 1929 to 1936. The Dow Jones industrial average didn't return to its summer 1929 high until 1954. The monetary shock of the first years of the Depression was immense, but it was this duration that made the Depression Great.

Capitalism doesn't have to include a good Democracy, Pinochet for example can be seen as a Totalitarian Capitalist dictator.

FDR achieved the best economic growth in 20th century America, but somehow worsened the Great Depression? really?

"FDR achieved the best economic growth in 20th century America,..."


False.

He worsened it.


"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot."

Morgenthau, Henry, Jr. (May 9, 1939). Henry Morgenthau Diary, Microfilm Roll #50 (PDF, 1.9 MB).

Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.

 

[edward37]

Chic will answer as soon as she polishes her boots and puts her iron cross on

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Of course it would.... How many people would be homeless without government programs?.... How many people would die of no healthcare without social programs? .... How many people would die from lack of food?

How few would need it if it wasn't for government? The bigger government gets the more people need it.

So, it's just some kind of coincidence that the 2 biggest economic growth Presidents in America in the 20th century, came from FDR, and LBJ.... Who both introduced social programs?

Wrong twit.....FDR lenghtened and deepened the GReat Depression......and LBJ was living off the Tax revenue Kennedy created with his tax cuts.....

And the biggest thing........World War 2 destroyed the industrial capacity and the economies of all of Europe.......no one could compete with us after the war....a war created by socialists...

FDR lengthened the Great Depression?
That's hilarious because he achieved faster economic growth than other U.S presidents of the 20th century.

Germans caused lots of damage in WW1 too.... In fact more White Christians were killed in WW1, than in WW2... A fact which is generally neglected.

So, is it a product of Fascism, or a product of being German to cause mega wars?

Because Germany in WW1 wasn't Fascist..... In fact it was a Capitalist Monarchy, no?

Gads, you're a moron.

Take notes, because you won't get this in government school:


1. Republican Harding faced as serious a recession as Roosevelt did, and solved it in a year and a half.

2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.


3. For comparison:

a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."

Know how many there were?

Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.

List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia


b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com



Know why? 'Cause Roosevelt wanted it to be.

... he made it last longer, by a multiple of five, from most previous depressions/recessions.....

It sure was a good excuse for overturning the Constitution.





4. Mull this over: FDR was good friends with Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.
His New Deal was copied from Mussolini's economic plans.
He wanted the same power that other dictators had.
And he knew how to get it: keep the recession going.


And he did.

No, Harding didn't have as bad of a situation, the GDP fell at least 3 X more during the Great Depression.

 

[PoliticalChic]

frivolous gun laws have never been the answer to stopping violent behavior... The Nazis tried that how did that work out for them?

What is it you believe the Nazis tried?

Forcing people to believe in their socialism, you know control freak behavior like progressives do to this day.

The Nazis weren't socialists, and in fact Hitler hated socialism and and was the sworn enemy of communism. He co-opted the Nationalist Socialist Party, rather than founding his own, and never changed the name.

The Allies appeased Hitler because of his virulent hatred of communism. They thought him a good buffer against Stalin and Communism.

Look....you've always been a moron....there is no need to keep proving it.

Hitler was a socialist, instituted the very same programs as ever Liberal today.


The National Socialists provided a plethora of social welfare programs under the Nazi concept of Volksgemeinschaft which promoted the collectivity of a “people’s community” where citizens would sacrifice themselves for the greater good. The NSV operated “8,000 day-nurseries” by 1939, and funded holiday homes for mothers, distributed additional food for large families, and was involved with a “wide variety of other facilities.”[4]


The Nazi social welfare provisions included old age insurance, rent supplements, unemployment and disability benefits, old-age homes, interest-free loans for married couples, along with healthcare insurance, which was not decreed mandatory until 1941[5]One of the NSV branches, the Office of Institutional and Special Welfare, was responsible “for travellers’ aid at railway stations; relief for ex-convicts; ‘support’ for re-migrants from abroad; assistance for the physically disabled, hard-of-hearing, deaf, mute, and blind; relief for the elderly, homeless and alcoholics; and the fight against illicit drugs and epidemics.”


These social welfare programs represented a Hitlerian endeavor to lift the community above the individual while promoting the wellbeing of all bona fide citizens. As Hitler told a reporter in 1934, he was determined to give Germans “the highest possible standard of living.” National Socialist People's Welfare - Wikipedia




Let's review:
1. Hitler was a Leftist...a socialist.
2. He was not Rightwing
3. He stood for the same thing as Progressives and Liberals
4. You're an imbecile.


Any questions?

 

[edward37]

Chic will answer as soon as she polishes her boots and puts her iron cross on

The Iron Cross is a famous German military medal dating back to the 19th century. During the 1930s, the Nazi regime in Germany superimposed a swastika on the traditional medal, turning it into a Nazi symbol. After World War II, the medal was discontinued but neo-Nazis and other white supremacists subsequently adopted it as a hate symbol and it has been a commonly-used hate symbol ever since.

 

[rightwinger]

Bonus points if you:
1. Oppose labor unions and want to see them outlawed.

2. Agree that there is a “war on white people” and that ‘reverse-racism’ is a real problem in the United States.

3. Believe that gays present a real threat to “traditional American values” and the “traditional American family.”

4. Hate “Communists” and are willing to apply that label to everyone you disagree with politically.

"After he was released in 1924, Hitler used the rest of the 1920’s to consolidate the Nazis and turn them into a nationwide movement. The SA (known colloquially as Brownshirts) were reorganized into an effective force of street activists, Hitler established his own national daily newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter, and continued to build his following and spread his message of nationalism mixed with progressive social policies. The Nazi banner is a superb symbol of Hitler’s ideology – the red banner of socialism with the Aryan nationalist symbol of the swastika in the middle."
Adolf Hitler – Progressive Pioneer




So....Hitler was on the same side of the aisle as you are.

Coincidence?

Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism

Unrestrained scapegoating of Muslims and Mexicans......THAT is the reason you are suffering....only Conservatives can protect you
Destruction of labor unions
Sacrificing the environment for profit

"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."

Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.

Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:

Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."

It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.


".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.

The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker




Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...

"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics



Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)

German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.

Frau Braun

Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis

"Frau Braun" refers to Nazis....like your side.....I'm on the Right.


When the truths that I provide......and, truth is my stock in trade.....irritate, annoy, anger and aggravate one of your low level IQ, you behave in exactly the same way you would have lo those many decades ago, when you were a wee lying lad.

What is the instantaneous reaction of an undisciplined, immature, puerile, self-absorbed creature?


Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????


Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....

or

"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....


What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.

Frau Braun

Your Nazi sympathies are well documented. Your repeated threads condemning FDR for saving Europe from the Nazi invaders tips you off.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wrong twit.....FDR lenghtened and deepened the GReat Depression......and LBJ was living off the Tax revenue Kennedy created with his tax cuts.....

And the biggest thing........World War 2 destroyed the industrial capacity and the economies of all of Europe.......no one could compete with us after the war....a war created by socialists...

FDR lengthened the Great Depression?
That's hilarious because he achieved faster economic growth than other U.S presidents of the 20th century.

Germans caused lots of damage in WW1 too.... In fact more White Christians were killed in WW1, than in WW2... A fact which is generally neglected.

So, is it a product of Fascism, or a product of being German to cause mega wars?

Because Germany in WW1 wasn't Fascist..... In fact it was a Capitalist Monarchy, no?

Capitalist or monarchy, which was it? You can't have both. I don't know if they were fascist or not, that predates the term. They wanted to take over much of Europe and Russia though.





FDR Was a Great Leader, But His Economic Plan Isn't One to Follow


But Roosevelt the economist is unworthy of emulation. His first goal was to reduce unemployment. Of his own great stimulus package, the National Industrial Recovery Act, he said: "The law I have just signed was passed to put people back to work." Here, FDR failed abysmally. In the 1920s, unemployment had averaged below 5 percent. Blundering when they knew better, Herbert Hoover, his Treasury, the Federal Reserve and Congress drove that rate up to 25 percent. Roosevelt pulled unemployment down, but nowhere near enough to claim sustained recovery. From 1933 to 1940, FDR's first two terms, it averaged in the high teens. Even if you add in all the work relief jobs, as some economists do, Roosevelt-era unemployment averages well above 10 percent. That's a level Obama has referred to once or twice -- as a nightmare.

The second goal of the New Deal was to stimulate the private sector. Instead, it supplanted it. To justify their own work, New Dealers attacked not merely those guilty of white-collar crimes but the entire business community -- the "princes of property," FDR called them. Washington's policy evolved into a lethal combo of spending and retribution. Never did either U.S. investors or foreigners get a sense that the United States was now open for business. As a result, the Depression lasted half a decade longer than it had to, from 1929 to 1940 rather than, say, 1929 to 1936. The Dow Jones industrial average didn't return to its summer 1929 high until 1954. The monetary shock of the first years of the Depression was immense, but it was this duration that made the Depression Great.

Capitalism doesn't have to include a good Democracy, Pinochet for example can be seen as a Totalitarian Capitalist dictator.

FDR achieved the best economic growth in 20th century America, but somehow worsened the Great Depression? really?

Look at the Unemployment stats, FDR lengthen the depression.

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The bottom graph admits the top 2 Presidential term job creation rates were from FDR.

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia

1. In 1931, in some of the darkest days of the Great Depression and the middle of the Hoover administration, unemployment rate stood at 17.4 %. Seven years later, after five years of FDR, and literally hundreds of wildly ambitious new government programs, more than doubling of federal spending, the national unemployment rate stood at – 17.4 %. At no point during the 1930’s did unemployment go below 14 %. Even in 1941, in the midst of the military buildup, 9.9 % of American workers were unemployed.

2. March 4, 1933, in his first Inaugural Address, FDR said “Our greatest primary task is to put people to work.” This meant that the New Deal was a wretched, ill-conceived failure.

3. After the stock market crash,, the Dow hit 250 in 1930 under Hoover (it had been 343 before the crash). January 1940, after seven years of the New Deal, the market had collapsed to 151, and remained in the low 100’s through most of FDR’s terms.

4. Federal spending went from 2.5 % in 1929 to 9 % in 1936: Washington’s portion of the economy increased by 360 % in just seven years- with no benefit to the economy.

5. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .

6. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.” article • AEI

7. Economist Jim Powell, in “FDR’s Folly,” notes that a disproportionate amount of FDR’s relief and public works spending “went not to the poorest states such as the South, but to western states were people were better off , apparently because there were ‘swing’ states which could yield FDR more votes in the next election.”

8. John Maynard Keynes, in a letter published in the NYTimes, December 31, 1933, warned “ even wise and necessary Reform may, in some respects, impede and complicate Recovery. For it will upset the confidence of the business world and weaken their existing motives to action.” Even Keynes saw the danger in treating the nation’s capitalists as an enemy, as “the unscrupulous money changers,” as FDR called them in his first Inaugural.

9. Warren Harding inherited one of the sharpest recessions in American history in 1921. By July it was over. Harding and Treasury Sec’y Mellon cut government expenditures by 40 %, allowing wages to fall, in a natural recovery to full employment. The cuts, and even sharper tax cuts under Coolidge, produced the long period of growth and rising living standards associated with the Roaring Twenties.

10. Roosevelt made sure that the recession became a depression and lasted five times longer than it should have.
Ask yourself why.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

So, it's just some kind of coincidence that the 2 biggest economic growth Presidents in America in the 20th century, came from FDR, and LBJ.... Who both introduced social programs?

Wrong twit.....FDR lenghtened and deepened the GReat Depression......and LBJ was living off the Tax revenue Kennedy created with his tax cuts.....

And the biggest thing........World War 2 destroyed the industrial capacity and the economies of all of Europe.......no one could compete with us after the war....a war created by socialists...

FDR lengthened the Great Depression?
That's hilarious because he achieved faster economic growth than other U.S presidents of the 20th century.

Germans caused lots of damage in WW1 too.... In fact more White Christians were killed in WW1, than in WW2... A fact which is generally neglected.

So, is it a product of Fascism, or a product of being German to cause mega wars?

Because Germany in WW1 wasn't Fascist..... In fact it was a Capitalist Monarchy, no?

Capitalist or monarchy, which was it? You can't have both. I don't know if they were fascist or not, that predates the term. They wanted to take over much of Europe and Russia though.





FDR Was a Great Leader, But His Economic Plan Isn't One to Follow


But Roosevelt the economist is unworthy of emulation. His first goal was to reduce unemployment. Of his own great stimulus package, the National Industrial Recovery Act, he said: "The law I have just signed was passed to put people back to work." Here, FDR failed abysmally. In the 1920s, unemployment had averaged below 5 percent. Blundering when they knew better, Herbert Hoover, his Treasury, the Federal Reserve and Congress drove that rate up to 25 percent. Roosevelt pulled unemployment down, but nowhere near enough to claim sustained recovery. From 1933 to 1940, FDR's first two terms, it averaged in the high teens. Even if you add in all the work relief jobs, as some economists do, Roosevelt-era unemployment averages well above 10 percent. That's a level Obama has referred to once or twice -- as a nightmare.

The second goal of the New Deal was to stimulate the private sector. Instead, it supplanted it. To justify their own work, New Dealers attacked not merely those guilty of white-collar crimes but the entire business community -- the "princes of property," FDR called them. Washington's policy evolved into a lethal combo of spending and retribution. Never did either U.S. investors or foreigners get a sense that the United States was now open for business. As a result, the Depression lasted half a decade longer than it had to, from 1929 to 1940 rather than, say, 1929 to 1936. The Dow Jones industrial average didn't return to its summer 1929 high until 1954. The monetary shock of the first years of the Depression was immense, but it was this duration that made the Depression Great.

Capitalism doesn't have to include a good Democracy, Pinochet for example can be seen as a Totalitarian Capitalist dictator.

FDR achieved the best economic growth in 20th century America, but somehow worsened the Great Depression? really?

"FDR achieved the best economic growth in 20th century America,..."


False.

He worsened it.


"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot."

Morgenthau, Henry, Jr. (May 9, 1939). Henry Morgenthau Diary, Microfilm Roll #50 (PDF, 1.9 MB).

Henry Morgenthau Jr. - Wikipedia.

Hilarious, except that every U.S president since then hasn't had such strong economic growth as FDR.

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