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The biggest genocide in history took place by the Muslim occupation of India, as a result 100's of millions of Indians were killed.
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Today...Smashing The Lie That Nazis Were Rightwing.
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The biggest genocide in history took place by the Muslim occupation of India, as a result 100's of millions of Indians were killed.
CrusaderFrank
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"After he was released in 1924, Hitler used the rest of the 1920’s to consolidate the Nazis and turn them into a nationwide movement. The SA (known colloquially as Brownshirts) were reorganized into an effective force of street activists, Hitler established his own national daily newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter, and continued to build his following and spread his message of nationalism mixed with progressive social policies. The Nazi banner is a superb symbol of Hitler’s ideology – the red banner of socialism with the Aryan nationalist symbol of the swastika in the middle."
Adolf Hitler – Progressive Pioneer
So....Hitler was on the same side of the aisle as you are.
Coincidence?
Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism
Unrestrained scapegoating of Muslims and Mexicans......THAT is the reason you are suffering....only Conservatives can protect you
Destruction of labor unions
Sacrificing the environment for profit
"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."
Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.
Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:
Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."
It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.
".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.
The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker
Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...
"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.
Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics
Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)
German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
Frau Braun
Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis
Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????
Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
or
"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.
Most American Liberals, and Conservatives have knee - jerk reaction to Fascism.
Capitalism has killed way more than Fascism.
Even into the 20th century, the Capitalist U.S.A killed 20 - 30 million in it's wars.
The Capitalist British, and Capitalist Americans killed 25,000 civilians in the Dresden Firebombing.
Capitalist of Britain facilitated the Bengali Famine during WW2 killing 3 million in India.
Capitalist of Britain in the 1950's put 1.5 million in Kenya in camps during the Mau Mau Uprising.
If we go back to the 19th century, the British Capitalists helped bring forward more than a dozen famines hit India under the Raj British India, which were produced largely by British colonial practices... By famine alone as much as 60 million in India starved to death.
Same thing happened in Ireland, where 1 million Irish starved to death, and Capitalist Britain took their resources from under the Irish.
The Capitalist Brits caused a famine in China, due to the Boxer Rebellion.
The Capitalist Brits put the Boers in Concentration Camps during the Boer Wars.
Left Wingers murdered over 100MM of their own countrymen in the 20th century alone
^ back to it
CrusaderFrank
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Christianity has killed more than capitalism and fascism together"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."
Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.
Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:
Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."
It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.
".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.
The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker
Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...
"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.
Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics
Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)
German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
Frau Braun
Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis
Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????
Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
or
"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.
Most American Liberals, and Conservatives have knee - jerk reaction to Fascism.
Capitalism has killed way more than Fascism.
Even into the 20th century, the Capitalist U.S.A killed 20 - 30 million in it's wars.
The Capitalist British, and Capitalist Americans killed 25,000 civilians in the Dresden Firebombing.
Capitalist of Britain facilitated the Bengali Famine during WW2 killing 3 million in India.
Capitalist of Britain in the 1950's put 1.5 million in Kenya in camps during the Mau Mau Uprising.
If we go back to the 19th century, the British Capitalists helped bring forward more than a dozen famines hit India under the Raj British India, which were produced largely by British colonial practices... By famine alone as much as 60 million in India starved to death.
Same thing happened in Ireland, where 1 million Irish starved to death, and Capitalist Britain took their resources from under the Irish.
The Capitalist Brits caused a famine in China, due to the Boxer Rebellion.
The Capitalist Brits put the Boers in Concentration Camps during the Boer Wars.
The biggest genocide in history took place by the Muslim occupation of India, as a result 100's of millions of Indians were killed.
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CrusaderFrank
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"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."
Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.
Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:
Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."
It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.
".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.
The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker
Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...
"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.
Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics
Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)
German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
Frau Braun
Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis
Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????
Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
or
"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.
Most American Liberals, and Conservatives have knee - jerk reaction to Fascism.
Capitalism has killed way more than Fascism.
Even into the 20th century, the Capitalist U.S.A killed 20 - 30 million in it's wars.
The Capitalist British, and Capitalist Americans killed 25,000 civilians in the Dresden Firebombing.
Capitalist of Britain facilitated the Bengali Famine during WW2 killing 3 million in India.
Capitalist of Britain in the 1950's put 1.5 million in Kenya in camps during the Mau Mau Uprising.
If we go back to the 19th century, the British Capitalists helped bring forward more than a dozen famines hit India under the Raj British India, which were produced largely by British colonial practices... By famine alone as much as 60 million in India starved to death.
Same thing happened in Ireland, where 1 million Irish starved to death, and Capitalist Britain took their resources from under the Irish.
The Capitalist Brits caused a famine in China, due to the Boxer Rebellion.
The Capitalist Brits put the Boers in Concentration Camps during the Boer Wars.
You are nuts.
Fascism is really the best economic system devised by Man.
Franco used Fascist elements to achieve the fastest economic growth in 20th century Europe during the Spanish Miracle.
FDR used Fascist elements to achieve the fastest economic growth in 20th century America.
The Nazis achieved even faster economic growth than FDR.
G, take a break
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
Wrong twit.....FDR lenghtened and deepened the GReat Depression......and LBJ was living off the Tax revenue Kennedy created with his tax cuts.....
And the biggest thing........World War 2 destroyed the industrial capacity and the economies of all of Europe.......no one could compete with us after the war....a war created by socialists...
FDR lengthened the Great Depression?
That's hilarious because he achieved faster economic growth than other U.S presidents of the 20th century.
Germans caused lots of damage in WW1 too.... In fact more White Christians were killed in WW1, than in WW2... A fact which is generally neglected.
So, is it a product of Fascism, or a product of being German to cause mega wars?
Because Germany in WW1 wasn't Fascist..... In fact it was a Capitalist Monarchy, no?
Gads, you're a moron.
Take notes, because you won't get this in government school:
1. Republican Harding faced as serious a recession as Roosevelt did, and solved it in a year and a half.
2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.
3. For comparison:
a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."
Know how many there were?
Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.
List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia
b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com
Know why? 'Cause Roosevelt wanted it to be.
... he made it last longer, by a multiple of five, from most previous depressions/recessions.....
It sure was a good excuse for overturning the Constitution.
4. Mull this over: FDR was good friends with Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.
His New Deal was copied from Mussolini's economic plans.
He wanted the same power that other dictators had.
And he knew how to get it: keep the recession going.
And he did.
No, Harding didn't have as bad of a situation, the GDP fell at least 3 X more during the Great Depression.
Wrong again.
1. "America’s greatest depression fighter was Warren Gamaliel Harding. An Ohio senator when he was elected president in 1920, he followed Woodrow Wilson who got America into World War I, ...Harding inherited the mess, in particular the post-World War I depression – almost as severe, from peak to trough, as the Great Contraction from 1929 to 1933, that FDR inherited and prolonged.
2. Richard K. Vedder and Lowell E. Gallaway, in their book Out of Work (1993), noted that the magnitude of the 1920 depression "exceeded that for the Great Depression of the following decade for several quarters." The estimated gross national product plunged 24% from $91.5 billion in 1920 to $69.6 billion in 1921. The number of unemployed people jumped from 2.1 million in 1920 to 4.9 million in 1921.
3. Compared to FDR, Harding had a much better understanding of how an economy works. Harding, wrote historian Robert K. Murray, in The Harding Era (1969), "always decried high taxes, government waste, and excessive governmental interference in the private sector of the economy. In February 1920, shortly after announcing his candidacy, he advocated a cut in government expenditures and stated that government ought to ‘strike the shackles from industry.’ ‘We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation,’ he said. Surprisingly, big business took very little notice of him at the time."
4. . With Harding’s tax cuts, spending cuts and relatively non-interventionist economic policy, the gross national product rebounded to $74.1 billion in 1922. The number of unemployed fell to 2.8 million – a reported 6.7% of the labor force – in 1922. So, just a year and a half after Harding became president, the Roaring 20s were underway! The unemployment rate continued to decline, reaching a low of 1.8% in 1926 – an extraordinary feat. Since then, the unemployment rate has been lower only once in wartime (1944), and never in peacetime."
America’s Greatest Depression*Fighter by Jim Powell
Americas Greatest Depression Fighter by Jim Powell
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226645/not-so-great-depression/jim-powell
The only possible conclusion is that Roosevelt wanted the recession to become a depression.
Ask yourself why.
Uh, to compare the 2 economic downturns is simply dishonest, after the 1929 stock market crash unemployment peaked at 25%, while in the 1920 stock market crash unemployment peaked at 11%.
How are these 2 situations equal?
Of course it's dishonest. It's the only way that Republicans can attack the economic record of Democrats in the White House. Saint Ronnie had anemic growth, at best, and it was based on the outrageous growth in defence spending, not on the tax cuts Republicans claim created the growth.
Republicans lie about the economic record because if they told you their policies will increase unemployment, and poverty, and will cause a serious stock market crash, no one in their right mind would vote for them.
SobieskiSavedEurope
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Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism
Unrestrained scapegoating of Muslims and Mexicans......THAT is the reason you are suffering....only Conservatives can protect you
Destruction of labor unions
Sacrificing the environment for profit
"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."
Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.
Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:
Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."
It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.
".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.
The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker
Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...
"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.
Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics
Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)
German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
Frau Braun
Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis
Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????
Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
or
"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.
Most American Liberals, and Conservatives have knee - jerk reaction to Fascism.
Capitalism has killed way more than Fascism.
Even into the 20th century, the Capitalist U.S.A killed 20 - 30 million in it's wars.
The Capitalist British, and Capitalist Americans killed 25,000 civilians in the Dresden Firebombing.
Capitalist of Britain facilitated the Bengali Famine during WW2 killing 3 million in India.
Capitalist of Britain in the 1950's put 1.5 million in Kenya in camps during the Mau Mau Uprising.
If we go back to the 19th century, the British Capitalists helped bring forward more than a dozen famines hit India under the Raj British India, which were produced largely by British colonial practices... By famine alone as much as 60 million in India starved to death.
Same thing happened in Ireland, where 1 million Irish starved to death, and Capitalist Britain took their resources from under the Irish.
The Capitalist Brits caused a famine in China, due to the Boxer Rebellion.
The Capitalist Brits put the Boers in Concentration Camps during the Boer Wars.
Left Wingers murdered over 100MM of their own countrymen in the 20th century alone
^ back to it
The crown champions of European brutality is hands down the Capitalist British, who mass murdered on multiple continents, now the Capitalist U.S.A is obviously following fairly closely in it's footsteps.
CrusaderFrank
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"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."
Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.
Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:
Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."
It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.
".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.
The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker
Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...
"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.
Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics
Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)
German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
Frau Braun
Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis
Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????
Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
or
"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.
Most American Liberals, and Conservatives have knee - jerk reaction to Fascism.
Capitalism has killed way more than Fascism.
Even into the 20th century, the Capitalist U.S.A killed 20 - 30 million in it's wars.
The Capitalist British, and Capitalist Americans killed 25,000 civilians in the Dresden Firebombing.
Capitalist of Britain facilitated the Bengali Famine during WW2 killing 3 million in India.
Capitalist of Britain in the 1950's put 1.5 million in Kenya in camps during the Mau Mau Uprising.
If we go back to the 19th century, the British Capitalists helped bring forward more than a dozen famines hit India under the Raj British India, which were produced largely by British colonial practices... By famine alone as much as 60 million in India starved to death.
Same thing happened in Ireland, where 1 million Irish starved to death, and Capitalist Britain took their resources from under the Irish.
The Capitalist Brits caused a famine in China, due to the Boxer Rebellion.
The Capitalist Brits put the Boers in Concentration Camps during the Boer Wars.
Left Wingers murdered over 100MM of their own countrymen in the 20th century alone
^ back to it
The crown champions of European brutality is hands down the Capitalist British, who mass murdered on multiple continents, now the Capitalist U.S.A is obviously following fairly closely in it's footsteps.
You're delusional. Chairman Mao alone killed a multiple of the "Capitalist" British in their entire history.
We're you bored of your other sock accounts?
rightwinger
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Chic will answer as soon as she polishes her boots and puts her iron cross on
"Iron Cross" refers to Nazis.....your side.
As proven in this thread, Nazis are Leftwing.
I'm on the Right, you dope.
Frau Braun proudly wears her Iron Cross
Given to her for years of selfless service promoting fascism on USMB
SobieskiSavedEurope
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Frau Braun
Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis
Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????
Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
or
"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.
Most American Liberals, and Conservatives have knee - jerk reaction to Fascism.
Capitalism has killed way more than Fascism.
Even into the 20th century, the Capitalist U.S.A killed 20 - 30 million in it's wars.
The Capitalist British, and Capitalist Americans killed 25,000 civilians in the Dresden Firebombing.
Capitalist of Britain facilitated the Bengali Famine during WW2 killing 3 million in India.
Capitalist of Britain in the 1950's put 1.5 million in Kenya in camps during the Mau Mau Uprising.
If we go back to the 19th century, the British Capitalists helped bring forward more than a dozen famines hit India under the Raj British India, which were produced largely by British colonial practices... By famine alone as much as 60 million in India starved to death.
Same thing happened in Ireland, where 1 million Irish starved to death, and Capitalist Britain took their resources from under the Irish.
The Capitalist Brits caused a famine in China, due to the Boxer Rebellion.
The Capitalist Brits put the Boers in Concentration Camps during the Boer Wars.
Left Wingers murdered over 100MM of their own countrymen in the 20th century alone
^ back to it
The crown champions of European brutality is hands down the Capitalist British, who mass murdered on multiple continents, now the Capitalist U.S.A is obviously following fairly closely in it's footsteps.
You're delusional. Chairman Mao alone killed a multiple of the "Capitalist" British in their entire history.
We're you bored of your other sock accounts?
The British Empire Capitalists killed about 60 million by famine in India, Mao killed about 50 million by famine in China.
The British Empire was particularly brutal, killing not just in India, but in Europe in Ireland or even in Russia during the Crimean War, America against both Native Americans, and White Americans during the Revolution, the New Zealand Maori, in Africa against the Boers,the Mau Mau, and the Zulu, and others, against Australian Aborgines, , the Tasmanian Aborgines were hunted down like Dogs by the British Capitalists, in China in the Opium Wars, and the Boxer Rebellion.
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Christianity has killed more than capitalism and fascism togetherHard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism
Unrestrained scapegoating of Muslims and Mexicans......THAT is the reason you are suffering....only Conservatives can protect you
Destruction of labor unions
Sacrificing the environment for profit
"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."
Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.
Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:
Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."
It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.
".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.
The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker
Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...
"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.
Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics
Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)
German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
Frau Braun
Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis
Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????
Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
or
"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.
Most American Liberals, and Conservatives have knee - jerk reaction to Fascism.
Capitalism has killed way more than Fascism.
Even into the 20th century, the Capitalist U.S.A killed 20 - 30 million in it's wars.
The Capitalist British, and Capitalist Americans killed 25,000 civilians in the Dresden Firebombing.
Capitalist of Britain facilitated the Bengali Famine during WW2 killing 3 million in India.
Capitalist of Britain in the 1950's put 1.5 million in Kenya in camps during the Mau Mau Uprising.
If we go back to the 19th century, the British Capitalists helped bring forward more than a dozen famines hit India under the Raj British India, which were produced largely by British colonial practices... By famine alone as much as 60 million in India starved to death.
Same thing happened in Ireland, where 1 million Irish starved to death, and Capitalist Britain took their resources from under the Irish.
The Capitalist Brits caused a famine in China, due to the Boxer Rebellion.
The Capitalist Brits put the Boers in Concentration Camps during the Boer Wars.
Sooo....I reduced you to lying.
That was simple.
There is no basis to claim religion has come close to the totalitarian history of mass murder in the last century alone.
Stalin....42,672,000
Mao.....37,828,000
Hitler....20,946,000
Lenin....4,017,000
Pol Pot...2,397,000
Tojo.....3,990,000
Total......111,850,000
#14 Liberal Demagoguery, Hate and Violence – A Compendium
Now you're not just a dunce....you're a dishonest dunce.
Add it to your resume.
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FDR lengthened the Great Depression?
That's hilarious because he achieved faster economic growth than other U.S presidents of the 20th century.
Germans caused lots of damage in WW1 too.... In fact more White Christians were killed in WW1, than in WW2... A fact which is generally neglected.
So, is it a product of Fascism, or a product of being German to cause mega wars?
Because Germany in WW1 wasn't Fascist..... In fact it was a Capitalist Monarchy, no?
Gads, you're a moron.
Take notes, because you won't get this in government school:
1. Republican Harding faced as serious a recession as Roosevelt did, and solved it in a year and a half.
2. Roosevelt took a recession and expanded it into a decade long Depression.
3. For comparison:
a. While "The Depression" is probably the only economic downturn ever studied in government schools, few ever speak of any depressions or recessions prior to the "Great Depression."
Know how many there were?
Over thirty. And the average length was a year or so.
List of recessions in the United States - List of recessions in the United States - Wikipedia
b. "The Great Depression (1929-39) was the deepest and longest-lasting economic downturn in the history of the Western industrialized world. In the United States, ..."The Great Depression - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com
Know why? 'Cause Roosevelt wanted it to be.
... he made it last longer, by a multiple of five, from most previous depressions/recessions.....
It sure was a good excuse for overturning the Constitution.
4. Mull this over: FDR was good friends with Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.
His New Deal was copied from Mussolini's economic plans.
He wanted the same power that other dictators had.
And he knew how to get it: keep the recession going.
And he did.
No, Harding didn't have as bad of a situation, the GDP fell at least 3 X more during the Great Depression.
Wrong again.
1. "America’s greatest depression fighter was Warren Gamaliel Harding. An Ohio senator when he was elected president in 1920, he followed Woodrow Wilson who got America into World War I, ...Harding inherited the mess, in particular the post-World War I depression – almost as severe, from peak to trough, as the Great Contraction from 1929 to 1933, that FDR inherited and prolonged.
2. Richard K. Vedder and Lowell E. Gallaway, in their book Out of Work (1993), noted that the magnitude of the 1920 depression "exceeded that for the Great Depression of the following decade for several quarters." The estimated gross national product plunged 24% from $91.5 billion in 1920 to $69.6 billion in 1921. The number of unemployed people jumped from 2.1 million in 1920 to 4.9 million in 1921.
3. Compared to FDR, Harding had a much better understanding of how an economy works. Harding, wrote historian Robert K. Murray, in The Harding Era (1969), "always decried high taxes, government waste, and excessive governmental interference in the private sector of the economy. In February 1920, shortly after announcing his candidacy, he advocated a cut in government expenditures and stated that government ought to ‘strike the shackles from industry.’ ‘We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation,’ he said. Surprisingly, big business took very little notice of him at the time."
4. . With Harding’s tax cuts, spending cuts and relatively non-interventionist economic policy, the gross national product rebounded to $74.1 billion in 1922. The number of unemployed fell to 2.8 million – a reported 6.7% of the labor force – in 1922. So, just a year and a half after Harding became president, the Roaring 20s were underway! The unemployment rate continued to decline, reaching a low of 1.8% in 1926 – an extraordinary feat. Since then, the unemployment rate has been lower only once in wartime (1944), and never in peacetime."
America’s Greatest Depression*Fighter by Jim Powell
Americas Greatest Depression Fighter by Jim Powell
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226645/not-so-great-depression/jim-powell
The only possible conclusion is that Roosevelt wanted the recession to become a depression.
Ask yourself why.
Uh, to compare the 2 economic downturns is simply dishonest, after the 1929 stock market crash unemployment peaked at 25%, while in the 1920 stock market crash unemployment peaked at 11%.
How are these 2 situations equal?
Of course it's dishonest. It's the only way that Republicans can attack the economic record of Democrats in the White House. Saint Ronnie had anemic growth, at best, and it was based on the outrageous growth in defence spending, not on the tax cuts Republicans claim created the growth.
Republicans lie about the economic record because if they told you their policies will increase unemployment, and poverty, and will cause a serious stock market crash, no one in their right mind would vote for them.
Psittacine species, parrots, have a brain to body ration equal to that of chimpanzees. As such, parrots are the smartest of all birds with the cognitive capacity of a five-year-old child.
Don’t you wish that that could be said of you?
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Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism
Unrestrained scapegoating of Muslims and Mexicans......THAT is the reason you are suffering....only Conservatives can protect you
Destruction of labor unions
Sacrificing the environment for profit
"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."
Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.
Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:
Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."
It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.
".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.
The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker
Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...
"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.
Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics
Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)
German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
Frau Braun
Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis
"Frau Braun" refers to Nazis....like your side.....I'm on the Right.
When the truths that I provide......and, truth is my stock in trade.....irritate, annoy, anger and aggravate one of your low level IQ, you behave in exactly the same way you would have lo those many decades ago, when you were a wee lying lad.
What is the instantaneous reaction of an undisciplined, immature, puerile, self-absorbed creature?
Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????
Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
or
"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.
Frau Braun
Your Nazi sympathies are well documented. Your repeated threads condemning FDR for saving Europe from the Nazi invaders tips you off.
"...FDR for saving Europe from the Nazi invaders..."
NO....FDR for saving Europe for the Nazi invaders
From the start he planned to support Communism and Stalin.
Soviet Spy Hopkins and 'Yes,sir, yes sir' George Marshall were fully behind handing all of Eastern Europe over to Stalin's tender mercies.
Remember...they knew full well of the Terror Famine, the Katyn Forest Massacre, and other blood purges. by Stalin...all met with 'Leftist shrug.'
Evidence of their intentions can be seen in a document which Hopkins took with him to the Quebec conference in August, 1943, entitled "Russia's Position," quoted as follows in Sherwood's book ["Roosevelt and Hopkins: An Intimate History,"byRobert E. Sherwood]: "Russia's post-war position in Europe will be a dominant one. With Germany crushed, there is no power in Europe to oppose her tremendous military forces."
Poor Frau Braun....never did get over that FDR saved Western Europe
Why else would she repeatedly blame FDR for fighting her beloved Nazis?
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Chic will answer as soon as she polishes her boots and puts her iron cross on
"Iron Cross" refers to Nazis.....your side.
As proven in this thread, Nazis are Leftwing.
I'm on the Right, you dope.
Frau Braun proudly wears her Iron Cross
Given to her for years of selfless service promoting fascism on USMB
I guess this means you're admitting that Liberals and Nazis are self-same.
Excellent.
Afraid not. The Nazis are off-the-scale right, always were, period, have a nice weekend, the end.
Not this one again. The OP is going to convince us that JFK and RFK were Conservatives.
youse guys are playing with semen-antics
European Socialists and American Nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.
...
Geeeee....I really made you nervous, huh?
You posted the same post twice.
BTW....you are right to be nervous.
Stay tuned.
Mine went up twice too. So did a post in another thread. It was happening site-wide at the time.
Of course, those staggering around with blindfolds so tight they would come up with yet another Hitler Revisionista thread wouldn't be expected to, like, notice things anyway, so the latest gaffe is no surprise either.
Even as we speak the site is calling this something like post "474". Even though it's on TWO pages.
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Christianity has killed more than capitalism and fascism together"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."
Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.
Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:
Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."
It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.
".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.
The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker
Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...
"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.
Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics
Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)
German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
Frau Braun
Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis
Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????
Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
or
"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.
Most American Liberals, and Conservatives have knee - jerk reaction to Fascism.
Capitalism has killed way more than Fascism.
Even into the 20th century, the Capitalist U.S.A killed 20 - 30 million in it's wars.
The Capitalist British, and Capitalist Americans killed 25,000 civilians in the Dresden Firebombing.
Capitalist of Britain facilitated the Bengali Famine during WW2 killing 3 million in India.
Capitalist of Britain in the 1950's put 1.5 million in Kenya in camps during the Mau Mau Uprising.
If we go back to the 19th century, the British Capitalists helped bring forward more than a dozen famines hit India under the Raj British India, which were produced largely by British colonial practices... By famine alone as much as 60 million in India starved to death.
Same thing happened in Ireland, where 1 million Irish starved to death, and Capitalist Britain took their resources from under the Irish.
The Capitalist Brits caused a famine in China, due to the Boxer Rebellion.
The Capitalist Brits put the Boers in Concentration Camps during the Boer Wars.
Sooo....I reduced you to lying.
That was simple.
There is no basis to claim religion has come close to the totalitarian history of mass murder in the last century alone.
Stalin....42,672,000
Mao.....37,828,000
Hitler....20,946,000
Lenin....4,017,000
Pol Pot...2,397,000
Tojo.....3,990,000
Total......111,850,000
#14 Liberal Demagoguery, Hate and Violence – A Compendium
Now you're not just a dunce....you're a dishonest dunce.
Add it to your resume.
Add this
proof of wars started for specifically christian reasons. Well, I could start with the second Roman invasion of Britain, which also included most of Western Europe. Not a nice time to be an unbeliever of any sort, unlike during the first Romano invasion. We can then move on to the Crusades and the invasion of the Arab nations there with the subsequent savagery that attended them. Next? How about the Spanish Armada and the French/Spanish war with Britain based purely because one of our kings fell out with the catholic religion, and we should surely remember the Spanish Inquisition, that was a nasty little war all in itself.
Let’s see, we’ve got the British civil war, again, over religion. I’m ignoring wars in Europe that don’t directly affect the UK, by the way. But let’s not forget the Spanish invasion of South America and the mindless violence that erupted from that. Or indeed, the murder of thousands of North American Indians, all done with the blessing of the church. Two examples which could justly be called Holocausts.
We have various wars with Europe after that, but mostly over Empire (but yet again, an endeavour vigorously encouraged by the church) until we come to the Great War where it was your christian duty to fight the hun as much as it was your christian duty to fight the French/British/American troops, moving swiftly on to the second Great War, where Hitler’s troops invaded Europe, sent millions to the camps, all with the motto “Gott mitt uns” giving the delusion that their “work” would be approved by a higher authority and all the while, the church, either protestant or catholic did nothing. How many dead is that? Who knows but even Stalin’s excesses are reckoned to be around the 20 million mark, leaving 80 million others according to your figures. I very much doubt China lost eighty million during the Chinese Revolution.
There have been various smaller atrocities around the world, all in the name of religion. You ask me to show you in the bible where jesus specifically sanctions these wars. Why should I need to do that, it’s your religion, and others, that have caused these wars and it has been the interpretation of those biblical words which have caused so much harm in this world. I don’t need to specify anything, you need to defend your argument about the interpretations based on this book of your god. Mind you, what is your view on Gods instruction to Moses to go out and kill everything of the Amalekites? I believe that is in your bible.
As for asking me to provide specific casualty details, well, I think asking me to provide the casualty list for an invasion two thousand years ago is being a bit silly really, you know I can’t provide such a list any more than you can. There are, of course, estimates, such as those for the English Civil War in which it has been said the dead and injured equalled that of the Great War. But then, in the examples you quote, there aren’t specific casualty lists, only approximations.
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- #476
Afraid not. The Nazis are off-the-scale right, always were, period, have a nice weekend, the end.
Not this one again. The OP is going to convince us that JFK and RFK were Conservatives.
youse guys are playing with semen-antics
European Socialists and American Nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.
...
Geeeee....I really made you nervous, huh?
You posted the same post twice.
BTW....you are right to be nervous.
Stay tuned.
Mine went up twice too. So did a post in another thread. It was happening site-wide at the time.
Of course, those staggering around with blindfolds so tight they would come up with yet another Hitler Revisionista thread wouldn't be expected to, like, notice things anyway, so the latest gaffe is no surprise either.
"...Hitler Revisionista...."
Where is that?
Everything I posted is factual.....linked, documented and sources.
Seems you're chagrined at having built your political view on Nazism, huh?
5. The template that the Liberals are intent on advancing is that
the Nazis are right wing, hence, it becomes imperative that they not be socialists.
They were. Socialists, siblings of the communists, and both are Leftwing.
Still married to her Association Fallacy. Because to abandon it for actual logic would undermine the base of so many other unrelated non-arguments. 
Socialism and communism may indeed be perched on the Left. But that's got nothing to do with Hitler, who joined a party that already had the word socialist in its title as a popular marketing term. Adolf didn't like it but went along because (a) he knew effective propaganda when he saw it and (b) a maniac who called his brownshirt thugs the "Gymnastics and Sports Division" of the party, obviously knew a thing or two about wildly mendacious euphemisms.
But hey, you go right ahead and make the case that Adolf Hitler was as honest as a boy scout and the fact that their first political prisoners, at Dachau, were the socialists and communists, after they were the target of assaults from the Gymnastics and Sports Division, was just a clerical error. That argument oughta be funny as a Gomez Addams train wreck.
Both Stalin's Bolsheviks....nobody says they weren't Leftwing.....and Hitler's NationalSocialists.....both sprang from Karl Marx.
-- Because Marx and Hitler both spoke German, therefore they're the same thing huh.
Live by the Association Fallacy, bury yourself alive with it.
a. Here's part of both communist and Nazi methodology: taking human lives is no big deal.
"Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.
"The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981
"Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first." George Watson.
still haven't seen any of the whiners denying anything I've posted.
I still haven't seen any links to it.
Link - Boldface. Know the difference.
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- #478
"Hard to believe that after the atrocities of the Nazi's that todays conservative movement would turn to fascism."
Nobody 'turned' to Fascism....the Progressives always were and are to this day.
Fact is, they fueled Hitler's genocide program:
Progressives, Liberals, Democrats authorized the idea of a 'Master Race' long before Hitler did.
...:"the Master Race."
It brings the Nazis to mind.
And it was the plan at the heart of Progressivism, as well.
".... the American experience with eugenics, the “policy science” of creating a master race.
.... it was all the rage in the Progressive Era. Eugenics was not a fringe movement; it was at the core of ruling-class politics, education, and culture. It was responsible for many of the early experiments in labor regulation. It was the driving force behind marriage licenses,minimum wages,restrictions on opportunities for women, and immigration quotas and controls.
The more I’ve looked into the subject, the more I’m convinced that it is not possible fully to understand the birth of the 20th century Leviathan without an awareness of eugenics. Eugenics was the original sin of the modern state that knows no limits to its power."
Why the Holocaust Should Matter to You | Jeffrey Tucker
Fact is, the Nazis learned eugenics from the American Progressives...
"Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.
Hitler studied American eugenics laws....
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics
Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.”
(Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)
German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
Frau Braun
Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis
"Frau Braun" refers to Nazis....like your side.....I'm on the Right.
When the truths that I provide......and, truth is my stock in trade.....irritate, annoy, anger and aggravate one of your low level IQ, you behave in exactly the same way you would have lo those many decades ago, when you were a wee lying lad.
What is the instantaneous reaction of an undisciplined, immature, puerile, self-absorbed creature?
Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????
Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
or
"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.
Frau Braun
Your Nazi sympathies are well documented. Your repeated threads condemning FDR for saving Europe from the Nazi invaders tips you off.
"...FDR for saving Europe from the Nazi invaders..."
NO....FDR for saving Europe for the Nazi invaders
From the start he planned to support Communism and Stalin.
Soviet Spy Hopkins and 'Yes,sir, yes sir' George Marshall were fully behind handing all of Eastern Europe over to Stalin's tender mercies.
Remember...they knew full well of the Terror Famine, the Katyn Forest Massacre, and other blood purges. by Stalin...all met with 'Leftist shrug.'
Evidence of their intentions can be seen in a document which Hopkins took with him to the Quebec conference in August, 1943, entitled "Russia's Position," quoted as follows in Sherwood's book ["Roosevelt and Hopkins: An Intimate History,"byRobert E. Sherwood]: "Russia's post-war position in Europe will be a dominant one. With Germany crushed, there is no power in Europe to oppose her tremendous military forces."
Poor Frau Braun....never did get over that FDR saved Western Europe
Why else would she repeatedly blame FDR for fighting her beloved Nazis?
"...FDR saved Western Europe..."
Actually, he handed half of Europe over to his BFF, Joseph Stalin.
Watta pal, huh?
- Thread starter
- #479
Christianity has killed more than capitalism and fascism togetherFrau Braun
Any propaganda posted by a known Nazi Sympathizer such as yourself has no credibility
Why don't you tell us again how FDR never should have freed Europe from the Nazis
Why....simply this knee-jerk response: "you've hurt me....injured me....I'll find some awful thing to say about you....whether it be true or not!!!!"
So....when I reveal truth about Nazis, about Liberals, or any of your most cherished and deeply held beliefs.....all of which I document, source and support with facts.....what is your response????
Diaphanous lies, such "It is the nature of Frau Braun to bemoan the Allied treatment of her beloved Adolf "
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
or
"Frau Braun"
'The Morgenthau Plan' As Death Sentence....
What you fail to understand is how I thrive on your hurt.
So happy to have you reveal it.
Most American Liberals, and Conservatives have knee - jerk reaction to Fascism.
Capitalism has killed way more than Fascism.
Even into the 20th century, the Capitalist U.S.A killed 20 - 30 million in it's wars.
The Capitalist British, and Capitalist Americans killed 25,000 civilians in the Dresden Firebombing.
Capitalist of Britain facilitated the Bengali Famine during WW2 killing 3 million in India.
Capitalist of Britain in the 1950's put 1.5 million in Kenya in camps during the Mau Mau Uprising.
If we go back to the 19th century, the British Capitalists helped bring forward more than a dozen famines hit India under the Raj British India, which were produced largely by British colonial practices... By famine alone as much as 60 million in India starved to death.
Same thing happened in Ireland, where 1 million Irish starved to death, and Capitalist Britain took their resources from under the Irish.
The Capitalist Brits caused a famine in China, due to the Boxer Rebellion.
The Capitalist Brits put the Boers in Concentration Camps during the Boer Wars.
Sooo....I reduced you to lying.
That was simple.
There is no basis to claim religion has come close to the totalitarian history of mass murder in the last century alone.
Stalin....42,672,000
Mao.....37,828,000
Hitler....20,946,000
Lenin....4,017,000
Pol Pot...2,397,000
Tojo.....3,990,000
Total......111,850,000
#14 Liberal Demagoguery, Hate and Violence – A Compendium
Now you're not just a dunce....you're a dishonest dunce.
Add it to your resume.
Add this
proof of wars started for specifically christian reasons. Well, I could start with the second Roman invasion of Britain, which also included most of Western Europe. Not a nice time to be an unbeliever of any sort, unlike during the first Romano invasion. We can then move on to the Crusades and the invasion of the Arab nations there with the subsequent savagery that attended them. Next? How about the Spanish Armada and the French/Spanish war with Britain based purely because one of our kings fell out with the catholic religion, and we should surely remember the Spanish Inquisition, that was a nasty little war all in itself.
Let’s see, we’ve got the British civil war, again, over religion. I’m ignoring wars in Europe that don’t directly affect the UK, by the way. But let’s not forget the Spanish invasion of South America and the mindless violence that erupted from that. Or indeed, the murder of thousands of North American Indians, all done with the blessing of the church. Two examples which could justly be called Holocausts.
We have various wars with Europe after that, but mostly over Empire (but yet again, an endeavour vigorously encouraged by the church) until we come to the Great War where it was your christian duty to fight the hun as much as it was your christian duty to fight the French/British/American troops, moving swiftly on to the second Great War, where Hitler’s troops invaded Europe, sent millions to the camps, all with the motto “Gott mitt uns” giving the delusion that their “work” would be approved by a higher authority and all the while, the church, either protestant or catholic did nothing. How many dead is that? Who knows but even Stalin’s excesses are reckoned to be around the 20 million mark, leaving 80 million others according to your figures. I very much doubt China lost eighty million during the Chinese Revolution.
There have been various smaller atrocities around the world, all in the name of religion. You ask me to show you in the bible where jesus specifically sanctions these wars. Why should I need to do that, it’s your religion, and others, that have caused these wars and it has been the interpretation of those biblical words which have caused so much harm in this world. I don’t need to specify anything, you need to defend your argument about the interpretations based on this book of your god. Mind you, what is your view on Gods instruction to Moses to go out and kill everything of the Amalekites? I believe that is in your bible.
As for asking me to provide specific casualty details, well, I think asking me to provide the casualty list for an invasion two thousand years ago is being a bit silly really, you know I can’t provide such a list any more than you can. There are, of course, estimates, such as those for the English Civil War in which it has been said the dead and injured equalled that of the Great War. But then, in the examples you quote, there aren’t specific casualty lists, only approximations.
You need another spanking???
No prob.
First World War (1914–18): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 million
Russian Civil War (1917–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 million
Soviet Union, Stalin’s regime (1924–53): . . . . . . . . . 20 million
Second World War (1937–45): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55 million
Chinese Civil War (1945–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.5 million
People’s Republic of China, Mao Zedong’s
regime (1949–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 million
Tibet (1950 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600,000
Congo Free State (1886–1908): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 million
Mexico (1910–20): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Turkish massacres of Armenians (1915–23): . . . . . 1.5 million
China (1917–28): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 800,000
China, Nationalist era (1928–37): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.1 million
Korean War (1950–53): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8 million
North Korea (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 million
Rwanda and Burundi (1959–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.35 million
Second Indochina War (1960–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.5 million
Ethiopia (1962–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Nigeria (1966–70): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Bangladesh (1971): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.25 million
Cambodia, Khmer Rouge (1975–78): . . . . . . . . . . . 1.65 million
Mozambique (1975–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Afghanistan (1979–2001): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.8 million
Iran–Iraq War (1980–88): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Sudan (1983 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.9 million
Kinshasa, Congo (1998 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.8 million
Philippines Insurgency (1899–1902): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220,000
Brazil (1900 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Amazonia (1900–1912): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Portuguese colonies (1900–1925): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 325,000
French colonies (1900–1940): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Japanese War (1904–5): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
German East Africa (1905–7): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Libya (1911–31): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 125,000
Balkan Wars (1912–13): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000
Greco–Turkish War (1919–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Spanish Civil War (1936–39): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 365,000
Franco Regime (1939–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
Abyssinian Conquest (1935–41): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Finnish War (1939–40): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Greek Civil War (1943–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 158,000
Yugoslavia, Tito’s regime (1944–80): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
First Indochina War (1945–54): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Colombia (1946–58): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
India (1947): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Romania (1948–89): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Burma/Myanmar (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
Algeria (1954–62): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 537,000
Sudan (1955–72): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Guatemala (1960–96): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Indonesia (1965–66): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Uganda, Idi Amin’s regime (1972–79): . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Vietnam, postwar Communist regime
(1975 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430,000
Angola (1975–2002): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 550,000
East Timor, conquest by Indonesia (1975–99): . . . . . 200,000
Lebanon (1975–90): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Cambodian Civil War (1978–91): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000
Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979–2003): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Uganda (1979–86): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Kurdistan (1980s, 1990s): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Liberia (1989–97): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Iraq (1990– ): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 350,000
Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Somalia (1991 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
None due to Christianity, you dunce.
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5. The template that the Liberals are intent on advancing is that
the Nazis are right wing, hence, it becomes imperative that they not be socialists.
They were. Socialists, siblings of the communists, and both are Leftwing.
Socialism and communism may indeed be perched on the Left. But that's got nothing to do with Hitler, who joined a party that already had the word socialist in its title as a popular marketing term. Adolf didn't like it but went along because (a) he knew effective propaganda when he saw it and (b) a maniac who called his brownshirt thugs the "Gymnastics and Sports Division" of the party, obviously knew a thing or two about wildly mendacious euphemisms.
But hey, you go right ahead and make the case that Adolf Hitler was as honest as a boy scout and the fact that their first political prisoners, at Dachau, were the socialists and communists, after they were the target of assaults from the Gymnastics and Sports Division, was just a clerical error. That argument oughta be funny as a Gomez Addams train wreck.
Both Stalin's Bolsheviks....nobody says they weren't Leftwing.....and Hitler's NationalSocialists.....both sprang from Karl Marx.
-- Because Marx and Hitler both spoke German, therefore they're the same thing huh.
Live by the Association Fallacy, bury yourself alive with it.
a. Here's part of both communist and Nazi methodology: taking human lives is no big deal.
"Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.
"The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981
"Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first." George Watson.
still haven't seen any of the whiners denying anything I've posted.
I still haven't seen any links to it.
Link - Boldface. Know the difference.
"Socialism and communism may indeed be perched on the Left. But that's got nothing to do with Hitler,...."
Gads, you're a moron.
One more nail in your coffin?
"The Nationalsozialistische Volkswohlfahrt (NSV), meaning "National Socialist People's Welfare", was a social welfare organization during the Third Reich. The NSV was established in 1933,.... The NSV became established as the single Nazi Party welfare organ in May 1933.[1] .... the programme was massively expanded, so that the régime deemed it worthy to be called the "greatest social institution in the world." One method of expansion was to absorb, or in NSDAP parlance coordinate, already existing but non-Nazi charity organizations. NSV was the second largest Nazi group organization by 1939, second only to the German Labor Front.
The National Socialists provided a plethora of social welfare programs under the Nazi concept of Volksgemeinschaft which promoted the collectivity of a “people’s community” where citizens would sacrifice themselves for the greater good. The NSV operated “8,000 day-nurseries” by 1939, and funded holiday homes for mothers, distributed additional food for large families, and was involved with a “wide variety of other facilities.”[4]
The Nazi social welfare provisions included old age insurance, rent supplements, unemployment and disability benefits, old-age homes, interest-free loans for married couples, along with healthcare insurance, which was not decreed mandatory until 1941[5]One of the NSV branches, the Office of Institutional and Special Welfare, was responsible “for travellers’ aid at railway stations; relief for ex-convicts; ‘support’ for re-migrants from abroad; assistance for the physically disabled, hard-of-hearing, deaf, mute, and blind; relief for the elderly, homeless and alcoholics; and the fight against illicit drugs and epidemics.”
These social welfare programs represented a Hitlerian endeavor to lift the community above the individual while promoting the wellbeing of all bona fide citizens. As Hitler told a reporter in 1934, he was determined to give Germans “the highest possible standard of living.” National Socialist People's Welfare - Wikipedia
Communism, socialism, Nazism, Fascism.....all Leftwing along with Liberalism
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