Tragic: Young mother forced to choose between Obamacare premiums and feeding family

There is no way that a family that is struggling to pay bills/ eat well....on a fixed income, disabled...and with a five year old...will pay $900 plus per month for insurance in PA on the exchange.

She is either misinformed or lying.

Have a little common sense.

What will they be paying?

You mean of course, "what will we the taxpayers be paying?" subsidies mean taxpayers pay.

I will get into that if someone can actually provide the numbers this couple will actually be paying. Since, so far, no one can do anything but take wild guesses I see no reason to get into what it will cost everyone else yet.
 
If? Is that the best you got?

I dont know her personal income level.hence the if. I dont talk out of my ass like you.

:lmao: Oh the irony :lmao:

(He's so fuck'n stupid, he doesn't realize the contradiction of commenting when admitting he doesn't know her income while claiming he doesn't "talk out of his ass". Uh, if you don't know her income - then by definition you are commenting on something you have NO idea about and are thus "talking out of your ass").

Oh Jesus, I'm literally rolling on my floor right with tears in my eyes... :lmao:

Yeah, I noticed that too. All I am doing is asking a simple question, and that means I am talking out of my ass. He, on the other hand, is assuming she is lying, and that her income will allow her to get subsidies, but he isn't talking put of his ass?
 
What will they be paying?

From the Kaiser Calculator/Estimate

If her and her husband make $30k, that's $15k each in disability checks, which I am not even certain it is that high, I guessed and thought she looked like she was about 30 years old, she could be younger with a baby/child that young but I put in 30 years old for her and her husband, for Allentown, Pa zipcode, as the article said she lived there....

here is what I got....

Results

The information below is about subsidized exchange coverage. Note that subsidies are only available for people purchasing coverage on their own in the exchange (not through an employer). Depending on your state's eligibility criteria, you or some members of your family may qualify for Medicaid.
Household income in 2014:154% of poverty levelUnsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014: $10,668 Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy: 4.17% Amount you pay for the premium: $1,250 per year
(which equals 4.17% of your household income and covers 12% of the overall premium) You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to: $9,418
(which covers 88% of the overall premium)

The premium and subsidy amounts above are based on a Silver plan. You have the option to apply the subsidy toward the purchase of other levels of coverage, such as a Gold plan (which would be more comprehensive) or a Bronze plan (which would be less comprehensive).
For example, you could enroll in a Bronze plan for about $0 per year (which is 0% of your household income). By enrolling in a Bronze plan, you would receive $8,801 in subsidies, which would cover the entire amount of your Bronze premium. For most people, the Bronze plan represents the minimum level of coverage required under health reform. Although you would pay less in premiums by enrolling in a Bronze plan, you will face higher out-of-pocket costs than if you enrolled in a Silver plan.
Out of Pocket Costs

Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $4,500. Whether you reach this maximum level will depend on the amount of health care services you use. Currently, about one in four people use no health care services in any given year.
You are guaranteed access to a Silver plan with an actuarial value of 87%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 87% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest. If you choose to enroll in a Bronze plan, the actuarial value will be 60%, meaning your out-of-pocket costs when you use services will likely be higher. Regardless of which level of coverage you choose, deductibles and copayments will vary from plan to plan, and out-of-pocket costs will depend on your health care expenses. Preventive services will be covered with no cost sharing required.
Other Coverage Options

Children and young adults under age 30 are eligible to purchase catastrophic coverage. With a catastrophic plan, you would pay out-of-pocket for most health services until you reach the annual limit on cost sharing ($12,700 in 2014). However, preventive services are covered with no cost sharing required.
Children under the age of 19 may also be eligible for coverage under Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), depending on your state's eligibility requirements.

Subsidy Calculator | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

If they make $30,000? What if they make more, and smoke?
In addition to that, you and I are paying for their healthcare, at the expense of our own.

Nice little racket they have going there.
 
You already are paying for their health care, morons. Jeebus dupes are dumb...now at least they'll pay something and get preventive care.

Ay caramba...
 
What will they be paying?

From the Kaiser Calculator/Estimate

If her and her husband make $30k, that's $15k each in disability checks, which I am not even certain it is that high, I guessed and thought she looked like she was about 30 years old, she could be younger with a baby/child that young but I put in 30 years old for her and her husband, for Allentown, Pa zipcode, as the article said she lived there....

here is what I got....

Results

The information below is about subsidized exchange coverage. Note that subsidies are only available for people purchasing coverage on their own in the exchange (not through an employer). Depending on your state's eligibility criteria, you or some members of your family may qualify for Medicaid.
Household income in 2014:154% of poverty levelUnsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014: $10,668 Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy: 4.17% Amount you pay for the premium: $1,250 per year
(which equals 4.17% of your household income and covers 12% of the overall premium) You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to: $9,418
(which covers 88% of the overall premium)

The premium and subsidy amounts above are based on a Silver plan. You have the option to apply the subsidy toward the purchase of other levels of coverage, such as a Gold plan (which would be more comprehensive) or a Bronze plan (which would be less comprehensive).
For example, you could enroll in a Bronze plan for about $0 per year (which is 0% of your household income). By enrolling in a Bronze plan, you would receive $8,801 in subsidies, which would cover the entire amount of your Bronze premium. For most people, the Bronze plan represents the minimum level of coverage required under health reform. Although you would pay less in premiums by enrolling in a Bronze plan, you will face higher out-of-pocket costs than if you enrolled in a Silver plan.
Out of Pocket Costs

Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $4,500. Whether you reach this maximum level will depend on the amount of health care services you use. Currently, about one in four people use no health care services in any given year.
You are guaranteed access to a Silver plan with an actuarial value of 87%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 87% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest. If you choose to enroll in a Bronze plan, the actuarial value will be 60%, meaning your out-of-pocket costs when you use services will likely be higher. Regardless of which level of coverage you choose, deductibles and copayments will vary from plan to plan, and out-of-pocket costs will depend on your health care expenses. Preventive services will be covered with no cost sharing required.
Other Coverage Options

Children and young adults under age 30 are eligible to purchase catastrophic coverage. With a catastrophic plan, you would pay out-of-pocket for most health services until you reach the annual limit on cost sharing ($12,700 in 2014). However, preventive services are covered with no cost sharing required.
Children under the age of 19 may also be eligible for coverage under Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), depending on your state's eligibility requirements.

Subsidy Calculator | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

If they make $30,000? What if they make more, and smoke?
well, i did a simple search and the avg disability check per person in PA, is $1100 a month, so let's say her family fixed income is $26000 cuz both she and her husband receive full disability from SSI, so even less than the 30k i first estimated..... as far as whether she is a smoker or not, the exchange in Maine, which allows insurance companies to increase your premium if a smoker, has a non profit insurance co on the exchange that gives no penalty for smoking, while the other insurer on Maine's exchange does charge 30% more for the individual smoker's portion, if in a family plan....so it is possible, if she is a smoker, there are plans on PA's marketplace that do not increase premiums for smokers, just like Maine.

here is what the Kaiser calculator estimates for this couple on a $26,000 a year income

Results

Note that regardless of whether your state expands Medicaid, children at this income under the age of 19 are likely eligible for coverage under Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), depending on your state's eligibility requirements.
If your state expands Medicaid

If your state chooses to expand Medicaid to everyone under 138% of the poverty level under the ACA, you will be eligible for coverage under the program. Medicaid coverage varies from state to state, but out-of-pocket costs are generally modest. Smoking status is not taken into account in Medicaid eligibility.

If your state does not expand Medicaid

If your state does not expand Medicaid, you will be eligible to purchase subsidized coverage through the exchanges.
The information below is about subsidized exchange coverage. Note that depending on your state's eligibility requirements, you may still be eligible for coverage through Medicaid.
Household income in 2014:133% of poverty levelUnsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014: $10,668 Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy: 3.01% Amount you pay for the premium: $782 per year
(which equals 3.01% of your household income and covers 7% of the overall premium) You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to: $9,886
(which covers 93% of the overall premium)

The premium and subsidy amounts above are based on a Silver plan. You have the option to apply the subsidy toward the purchase of other levels of coverage, such as a Gold plan (which would be more comprehensive) or a Bronze plan (which would be less comprehensive).
For example, you could enroll in a Bronze plan for about $0 per year (which is 0% of your household income). By enrolling in a Bronze plan, you would receive $8,801 in subsidies, which would cover the entire amount of your Bronze premium. For most people, the Bronze plan represents the minimum level of coverage required under health reform. Although you would pay less in premiums by enrolling in a Bronze plan, you will face higher out-of-pocket costs than if you enrolled in a Silver plan.
Out of Pocket Costs

Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $4,500. Whether you reach this maximum level will depend on the amount of health care services you use. Currently, about one in four people use no health care services in any given year.
You are guaranteed access to a Silver plan with an actuarial value of 94%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 94% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest. If you choose to enroll in a Bronze plan, the actuarial value will be 60%, meaning your out-of-pocket costs when you use services will likely be higher. Regardless of which level of coverage you choose, deductibles and copayments will vary from plan to plan, and out-of-pocket costs will depend on your health care expenses. Preventive services will be covered with no cost sharing required.
Other Coverage Options

Children and young adults under age 30 are eligible to purchase catastrophic coverage. With a catastrophic plan, you would pay out-of-pocket for most health services until you reach the annual limit on cost sharing ($12,700 in 2014). However, preventive services are covered with no cost sharing required.
Children under the age of 19 may also be eligible for coverage under Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), depending on your state's eligibility requirements.
 
"How will the families that have to suddenly come up with thousands of dollars extra for Obamacare, pay for it? What parts of their family budget is government forcing them to cut, to pay the increased costs of Obamacare mandated by the administration?"



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We saw the same propaganda from your side when Medicare was introduced over 40 years ago. The health care special interests which owned the Republican Party created a very sophisticated disinformation campaign using blatant lies and strategic half truths. They predicted medicare would destroy cash strapped families and lead to the end of capitalism.

The opposite happened. Poor seniors were saved. Poor families escaped the crushing burden of monopolized health care costs for their parents. And the private health care market evolved side-by-side with Medicare to yield the greatest profits in history. The only downside was that the special interests which controlled insurance markets lost some of their concentrated power over the market.

Whenever the government tinkers with the monopolies created by the Lobbying Industrial Complex we see this kind of propaganda.

Please recall the utterance made by a conservative senior who was manipulated to stage a protest at one of the early ObamaCare Town Halls: "Get your government hands off my Medicare."

This is the essence of Republican pathos: someone who benefits from Government but who has been fooled into attacking it. This is the point of the Republican Party, to a erase the things the government does which people want and need.

Corporations are the worst, they receive the biggest welfare of all. Do Republicans understand the patent system? This is when the private sector uses the concentrated power of the nanny state to build a monopoly fence around their products.

Social Security and Medicare virtually ended poverty amongst seniors, and it separates America from the 3rd world where old people die in the streets.

The OP is either consciously spreading propaganda on behalf of special interests or he has been fooled by propaganda. My guess is that he has been fooled by dear leader into believing that his country has been stolen by Liberals who steal his hard earned money and give it to Welfare Queens. He has no idea who funds elections.

If someone votes against the interests of the Koch brothers or big Pharma, they are removed in the next primary. They are replaced by a politician that bails out AIG with TARP while foreclosing on poor home owners. The system is designed to fuck the poor and bailout the rich. The OP has been very carefully manipulated to believe the opposite. He doesn't know who really owns our political system. Hint: it's the same people feeding him stories about ObamaCare.

(God help us)
 
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From the Kaiser Calculator/Estimate

If her and her husband make $30k, that's $15k each in disability checks, which I am not even certain it is that high, I guessed and thought she looked like she was about 30 years old, she could be younger with a baby/child that young but I put in 30 years old for her and her husband, for Allentown, Pa zipcode, as the article said she lived there....

here is what I got....

Results

The information below is about subsidized exchange coverage. Note that subsidies are only available for people purchasing coverage on their own in the exchange (not through an employer). Depending on your state's eligibility criteria, you or some members of your family may qualify for Medicaid.
Household income in 2014:154% of poverty levelUnsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014: $10,668 Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy: 4.17% Amount you pay for the premium: $1,250 per year
(which equals 4.17% of your household income and covers 12% of the overall premium) You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to: $9,418
(which covers 88% of the overall premium)

The premium and subsidy amounts above are based on a Silver plan. You have the option to apply the subsidy toward the purchase of other levels of coverage, such as a Gold plan (which would be more comprehensive) or a Bronze plan (which would be less comprehensive).
For example, you could enroll in a Bronze plan for about $0 per year (which is 0% of your household income). By enrolling in a Bronze plan, you would receive $8,801 in subsidies, which would cover the entire amount of your Bronze premium. For most people, the Bronze plan represents the minimum level of coverage required under health reform. Although you would pay less in premiums by enrolling in a Bronze plan, you will face higher out-of-pocket costs than if you enrolled in a Silver plan.
Out of Pocket Costs

Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $4,500. Whether you reach this maximum level will depend on the amount of health care services you use. Currently, about one in four people use no health care services in any given year.
You are guaranteed access to a Silver plan with an actuarial value of 87%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 87% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest. If you choose to enroll in a Bronze plan, the actuarial value will be 60%, meaning your out-of-pocket costs when you use services will likely be higher. Regardless of which level of coverage you choose, deductibles and copayments will vary from plan to plan, and out-of-pocket costs will depend on your health care expenses. Preventive services will be covered with no cost sharing required.
Other Coverage Options

Children and young adults under age 30 are eligible to purchase catastrophic coverage. With a catastrophic plan, you would pay out-of-pocket for most health services until you reach the annual limit on cost sharing ($12,700 in 2014). However, preventive services are covered with no cost sharing required.
Children under the age of 19 may also be eligible for coverage under Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), depending on your state's eligibility requirements.

Subsidy Calculator | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

If they make $30,000? What if they make more, and smoke?
well, i did a simple search and the avg disability check per person in PA, is $1100 a month, so let's say her family fixed income is $26000 cuz both she and her husband receive full disability from SSI, so even less than the 30k i first estimated..... as far as whether she is a smoker or not, the exchange in Maine, which allows insurance companies to increase your premium if a smoker, has a non profit insurance co on the exchange that gives no penalty for smoking, while the other insurer on Maine's exchange does charge 30% more for the individual smoker's portion, if in a family plan....so it is possible, if she is a smoker, there are plans on PA's marketplace that do not increase premiums for smokers, just like Maine.

here is what the Kaiser calculator estimates for this couple on a $26,000 a year income

Results

Note that regardless of whether your state expands Medicaid, children at this income under the age of 19 are likely eligible for coverage under Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), depending on your state's eligibility requirements.
If your state expands Medicaid

If your state chooses to expand Medicaid to everyone under 138% of the poverty level under the ACA, you will be eligible for coverage under the program. Medicaid coverage varies from state to state, but out-of-pocket costs are generally modest. Smoking status is not taken into account in Medicaid eligibility.

If your state does not expand Medicaid

If your state does not expand Medicaid, you will be eligible to purchase subsidized coverage through the exchanges.
The information below is about subsidized exchange coverage. Note that depending on your state's eligibility requirements, you may still be eligible for coverage through Medicaid.
Household income in 2014:133% of poverty levelUnsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014: $10,668 Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy: 3.01% Amount you pay for the premium: $782 per year
(which equals 3.01% of your household income and covers 7% of the overall premium) You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to: $9,886
(which covers 93% of the overall premium)

The premium and subsidy amounts above are based on a Silver plan. You have the option to apply the subsidy toward the purchase of other levels of coverage, such as a Gold plan (which would be more comprehensive) or a Bronze plan (which would be less comprehensive).
For example, you could enroll in a Bronze plan for about $0 per year (which is 0% of your household income). By enrolling in a Bronze plan, you would receive $8,801 in subsidies, which would cover the entire amount of your Bronze premium. For most people, the Bronze plan represents the minimum level of coverage required under health reform. Although you would pay less in premiums by enrolling in a Bronze plan, you will face higher out-of-pocket costs than if you enrolled in a Silver plan.
Out of Pocket Costs

Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $4,500. Whether you reach this maximum level will depend on the amount of health care services you use. Currently, about one in four people use no health care services in any given year.
You are guaranteed access to a Silver plan with an actuarial value of 94%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 94% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest. If you choose to enroll in a Bronze plan, the actuarial value will be 60%, meaning your out-of-pocket costs when you use services will likely be higher. Regardless of which level of coverage you choose, deductibles and copayments will vary from plan to plan, and out-of-pocket costs will depend on your health care expenses. Preventive services will be covered with no cost sharing required.
Other Coverage Options

Children and young adults under age 30 are eligible to purchase catastrophic coverage. With a catastrophic plan, you would pay out-of-pocket for most health services until you reach the annual limit on cost sharing ($12,700 in 2014). However, preventive services are covered with no cost sharing required.
Children under the age of 19 may also be eligible for coverage under Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), depending on your state's eligibility requirements.

Reid has a fixed income, and millions in real estate holdings. The point is you are making assumptions.
 
This story has all the earmarks of those jackalope stories I used to hear when I took a trip to Wyoming.
 
Funny how Repubs won't tell this woman to get another job to pay her premiums, but if she were a Democrat, they would.
 
If they make $30,000? What if they make more, and smoke?
well, i did a simple search and the avg disability check per person in PA, is $1100 a month, so let's say her family fixed income is $26000 cuz both she and her husband receive full disability from SSI, so even less than the 30k i first estimated..... as far as whether she is a smoker or not, the exchange in Maine, which allows insurance companies to increase your premium if a smoker, has a non profit insurance co on the exchange that gives no penalty for smoking, while the other insurer on Maine's exchange does charge 30% more for the individual smoker's portion, if in a family plan....so it is possible, if she is a smoker, there are plans on PA's marketplace that do not increase premiums for smokers, just like Maine.

here is what the Kaiser calculator estimates for this couple on a $26,000 a year income

Results

Note that regardless of whether your state expands Medicaid, children at this income under the age of 19 are likely eligible for coverage under Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), depending on your state's eligibility requirements.
If your state expands Medicaid

If your state chooses to expand Medicaid to everyone under 138% of the poverty level under the ACA, you will be eligible for coverage under the program. Medicaid coverage varies from state to state, but out-of-pocket costs are generally modest. Smoking status is not taken into account in Medicaid eligibility.

If your state does not expand Medicaid

If your state does not expand Medicaid, you will be eligible to purchase subsidized coverage through the exchanges.
The information below is about subsidized exchange coverage. Note that depending on your state's eligibility requirements, you may still be eligible for coverage through Medicaid.
Household income in 2014:133% of poverty levelUnsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014: $10,668 Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy: 3.01% Amount you pay for the premium: $782 per year
(which equals 3.01% of your household income and covers 7% of the overall premium) You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to: $9,886
(which covers 93% of the overall premium)

The premium and subsidy amounts above are based on a Silver plan. You have the option to apply the subsidy toward the purchase of other levels of coverage, such as a Gold plan (which would be more comprehensive) or a Bronze plan (which would be less comprehensive).
For example, you could enroll in a Bronze plan for about $0 per year (which is 0% of your household income). By enrolling in a Bronze plan, you would receive $8,801 in subsidies, which would cover the entire amount of your Bronze premium. For most people, the Bronze plan represents the minimum level of coverage required under health reform. Although you would pay less in premiums by enrolling in a Bronze plan, you will face higher out-of-pocket costs than if you enrolled in a Silver plan.
Out of Pocket Costs

Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $4,500. Whether you reach this maximum level will depend on the amount of health care services you use. Currently, about one in four people use no health care services in any given year.
You are guaranteed access to a Silver plan with an actuarial value of 94%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 94% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest. If you choose to enroll in a Bronze plan, the actuarial value will be 60%, meaning your out-of-pocket costs when you use services will likely be higher. Regardless of which level of coverage you choose, deductibles and copayments will vary from plan to plan, and out-of-pocket costs will depend on your health care expenses. Preventive services will be covered with no cost sharing required.
Other Coverage Options

Children and young adults under age 30 are eligible to purchase catastrophic coverage. With a catastrophic plan, you would pay out-of-pocket for most health services until you reach the annual limit on cost sharing ($12,700 in 2014). However, preventive services are covered with no cost sharing required.
Children under the age of 19 may also be eligible for coverage under Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), depending on your state's eligibility requirements.

Reid has a fixed income, and millions in real estate holdings. The point is you are making assumptions.
Yes, of course they are based on assumptions, assumptions based off of what she SAID....her and her husband are both on a fixed disability income and have a 5 year old child, and in viewing her and guessing her age....

her saying she would have to pay $800 and something a month for her own family insurance plan off of the exchange is simply NOT TRUE, IF what she said about her and her husband ona fixed disability income....and barely making ends meet, and where in the world can she get health insurance for the 3 of them for $200 and something a month in the private insurance marketplace? Neither she or her husband work? she said that...so no employer is funding most of it? So, logic HAS TO come in to play some where, no? Is this some sort of fee she has to pay for Medicaid coverage that she is already getting through her State? If she is so poor why hasn't she gotten Schip for her child's insurance? If she receives medical coverage already due to her and her husband's disability, why is she looking for insurance in the first place?

Yes, these are assumptions and questions that come to my mind for simply using deductive reasoning....a God given gift, that many seem to be unaware of....

BUT INSTEAD we have ops like this one, that just took everything this woman said at face value, when in any thinking mind, the woman is simply not telling the truth, or is fibbing in her 15 minutes of fame...

i've given you a couple of different income scenarios from the Kaiser Calculator, that show the woman does not appear to know what she is talking about....and must be confused....or something, cuz even if she made substantially more, it still wouldn't come to the amount she quoted...

wonder what her disability is....?
 
This just happened yesterday...

My neighbor and his son went in to review their life insurance policies.. as they were discussing that, the agent realized that the son had just turned 21.

Because of the changes Obama-care caused, the son was automatically dropped from the parent's health policy on October 1st. The old policy allowed him to stay on until he turned 25, got married, or graduated from all of his schooling, which ever came first.

The son had to get his own policy, $400 a month or not be covered and pay two months up front.

The kid has one full time job, he was saving to pay for his next year of school... But now between his car insurance and health insurance, that will take up nearly 60% of his monthly take home pay.
MY LORD! Have YOU GOT IT BACKWARDS! It's just the opposite Shroom, health insurance could drop the child at 21 BEFORE obamacare, NOW with Obamacare, kids can stay on parent's health plan until 26 yrs old.....

SO, looks like you must have misunderstood your neighbor...you start saying 'life' insurance then moved in to saying health insurance....looks like you are confused?

nope..

I don't have it backwards or wrong.

The old policy was a "cadillac" plan that the company no longer offers. They put all their insured into another plan which had most of the same coverages without the bells and whistles, including allowing children who were not living with their parents to stay on as a rider.

Any good insurance agent, who has a customer with multiple policies will look at all them briefly when discussing any one of them.

I'm not wrong nor do I have it backwards.
 
This just happened yesterday...

My neighbor and his son went in to review their life insurance policies.. as they were discussing that, the agent realized that the son had just turned 21.

Because of the changes Obama-care caused, the son was automatically dropped from the parent's health policy on October 1st. The old policy allowed him to stay on until he turned 25, got married, or graduated from all of his schooling, which ever came first.

The son had to get his own policy, $400 a month or not be covered and pay two months up front.

The kid has one full time job, he was saving to pay for his next year of school... But now between his car insurance and health insurance, that will take up nearly 60% of his monthly take home pay.
MY LORD! Have YOU GOT IT BACKWARDS! It's just the opposite Shroom, health insurance could drop the child at 21 BEFORE obamacare, NOW with Obamacare, kids can stay on parent's health plan until 26 yrs old.....

SO, looks like you must have misunderstood your neighbor...you start saying 'life' insurance then moved in to saying health insurance....looks like you are confused?

nope..

I don't have it backwards or wrong.

The old policy was a "cadillac" plan that the company no longer offers. They put all their insured into another plan which had most of the same coverages without the bells and whistles, including allowing children who were not living with their parents to stay on as a rider.

Any good insurance agent, who has a customer with multiple policies will look at all them briefly when discussing any one of them.

I'm not wrong nor do I have it backwards.
ohhhhhhhhhhh yes you do have it wrong shroom.....just read up on it, inform yourself....knowledge is good, ignorance is bad and lazy....are you lazy?

http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq-dependentcoverage.html

Q1: How does the Affordable Care Act help young adults?

Before the President signed the Affordable Care Act into law, many health plans and issuers could remove adult children from their parents' policies because of their age, whether or not they were a student or where they lived. The Affordable Care Act requires plans and issuers that offer dependent coverage to make the coverage available until the adult child reaches the age of 26. Many parents and their children who worried about losing health insurance after they graduated from college no longer have to worry.
 
The operative here is "forced".

"Forced" into choosing ACA coverage.

Wait- it's not a choice. ACA is. It is because... it is.

It's ACA or nothing.

Wow- we finally have a CHOICE!

Thanks, Obama!
 
Q: How is ACA like abortion?

A: It's the law.

Praise Jesus Obama!
 
The operative here is "forced".

"Forced" into choosing ACA coverage.

Wait- it's not a choice. ACA is. It is because... it is.

It's ACA or nothing.

Wow- we finally have a CHOICE!

Thanks, Obama!

true liberty right there i tell ya
 

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