trump Backs Down. Again.

[Rustic]

I have no dog in this fight but the citizenship question does seem very sensible to me.

Fuzzy math... Emotions count as numbers to progressives.

And if illegal aliens feel bad about it, tough fucking shit.
Illegal aliens costs this country billions of dollars every year

 

[WillowTree]

Cheat? Why is knowing who has citizenship cheating? I would say keeping that info from Americans is cheating.

You're asking a question you know the answer to.

However to be polite, here's the answer to your question:

Dead man's hard drives the 'smoking gun' in census debate?

Now, however, a new wrinkle has emerged on the whole issue in an unusual way—via the hard drives of a deceased Republican strategist. Critics say the hard drives provide evidence for what they've been saying all along, that the citizenship question is a thinly disguised attempt to suppress minority voters and help white Republicans. The Justice Department says that's ridiculous. The Supreme Court has been informed of the new development, but whether it will play a role in justices' deliberations remains unclear. The details:

• The strategist: The GOP's Thomas Hofeller is described by the New York Times as the "Michelangelo of gerrymandering, the architect of partisan political maps that cemented the party's dominance across the country." He died last August, and his estranged daughter, Stephanie Hofeller Lizon, recovered his hard drives.
• His work: The hard drives, which his daughter gave to the advocacy group Common Cause, detail Hofeller's research in Texas. He concluded that if new voting maps were based not on population but more specifically on the number of American citizens of voting age, they "would be advantageous to Republicans and non-Hispanic whites." And they "would clearly be a disadvantage to the Democrats," he wrote, per the Washington Post.

In other words, like I said in my OP, cheat.

So illegals vote?

I'll play your game one more time. If you reply the same ridiculous way, I won't reply.

The citizenship question was put there to get an undercount of the population. Specifically in democratic held areas.

If there's an undercount of the population areas won't get the proper funding nor will they get the proper representation in congress. Thus losing seats that the state should have because of its population.

That will give an unfair benefit to republicans.

If you want to dispute that the proof of it was taken to the Supreme Court. At least one conservative judge on that court realized what trump and the republicans are trying to do and that wilber ross lied to the court about their reasons for that question.

Justice Roberts put in his ruling that the reasons the government were "contrived" which means he's saying he doesn't like being lied to.

You can play stupid all you want but all you're doing is making a fool of yourself.

You want taxpayers to fund illegals and give them representation? And, who is cheating?

 

[HenryBHough]

Idea:

As illegals are identified and captured brand them on the forehead with a gigantic "I". Problem is, though, that would serve as an identifier that gets them to the head of line for free stuff.

 

[Desperado]

Getting tired of all the talk and no action.
This keeps up then Tulsi may be real alternative

 

[Marion Morrison]

Cheat? Why is knowing who has citizenship cheating? I would say keeping that info from Americans is cheating.

You're asking a question you know the answer to.

However to be polite, here's the answer to your question:

Dead man's hard drives the 'smoking gun' in census debate?

Now, however, a new wrinkle has emerged on the whole issue in an unusual way—via the hard drives of a deceased Republican strategist. Critics say the hard drives provide evidence for what they've been saying all along, that the citizenship question is a thinly disguised attempt to suppress minority voters and help white Republicans. The Justice Department says that's ridiculous. The Supreme Court has been informed of the new development, but whether it will play a role in justices' deliberations remains unclear. The details:

• The strategist: The GOP's Thomas Hofeller is described by the New York Times as the "Michelangelo of gerrymandering, the architect of partisan political maps that cemented the party's dominance across the country." He died last August, and his estranged daughter, Stephanie Hofeller Lizon, recovered his hard drives.
• His work: The hard drives, which his daughter gave to the advocacy group Common Cause, detail Hofeller's research in Texas. He concluded that if new voting maps were based not on population but more specifically on the number of American citizens of voting age, they "would be advantageous to Republicans and non-Hispanic whites." And they "would clearly be a disadvantage to the Democrats," he wrote, per the Washington Post.

In other words, like I said in my OP, cheat.

So illegals vote?

I'll play your game one more time. If you reply the same ridiculous way, I won't reply.

The citizenship question was put there to get an undercount of the population. Specifically in democratic held areas.

If there's an undercount of the population areas won't get the proper funding nor will they get the proper representation in congress. Thus losing seats that the state should have because of its population.

That will give an unfair benefit to republicans.

If you want to dispute that the proof of it was taken to the Supreme Court. At least one conservative judge on that court realized what trump and the republicans are trying to do and that wilber ross lied to the court about their reasons for that question.

Justice Roberts put in his ruling that the reasons the government were "contrived" which means he's saying he doesn't like being lied to.

You can play stupid all you want but all you're doing is making a fool of yourself.

Ah, so areas with a crapton of illegals get overepresented, got it!

 

[Siete]

Idea:

As illegals are identified and captured brand them on the forehead with a gigantic "I". Problem is, though, that would serve as an identifier that gets them to the head of line for free stuff.

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my, how Hitler-esque of you.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Cheat? Why is knowing who has citizenship cheating? I would say keeping that info from Americans is cheating.

It depends on the intent. Trump's intent is never beneficial to anyone but himself.

 

[Rustic]

Cheat? Why is knowing who has citizenship cheating? I would say keeping that info from Americans is cheating.

It depends on the intent. Trump's intent is never beneficial to anyone but himself.

Lol
Says a politically correct moron

 

[my2¢]

I have no dog in this fight but the citizenship question does seem very sensible to me.

It’s been on the census before! Democrats are crazy assed people.

I totally agree but I also believe those that expect non-citizens to answer the question honestly are also occupying fantasyland, right next door to the Democrats. Which sums up my indifference on the matter.

I don’t expect them to answer honestly, they snuck into the country and stole ID and got jobs illegally. Why would I think them honest?

Sorry you took it personal. I was only expanding your classification of crazy-assed people to those I take as also off-the-deep-end. I absolutely hate it when others put words in my mouth and it's the furthest I wish to do here on these boards.

 

[WillowTree]

Cheat? Why is knowing who has citizenship cheating? I would say keeping that info from Americans is cheating.

It depends on the intent. Trump's intent is never beneficial to anyone but himself.

Wrong again. It’s beneficial to American citizens!

 

[Indeependent]

I am being taxed to house, clothe and feed trespassers.

 

[WillowTree]

I have no dog in this fight but the citizenship question does seem very sensible to me.

It’s been on the census before! Democrats are crazy assed people.

I totally agree but I also believe those that expect non-citizens to answer the question honestly are also occupying fantasyland, right next door to the Democrats. Which sums up my indifference on the matter.

I don’t expect them to answer honestly, they snuck into the country and stole ID and got jobs illegally. Why would I think them honest?

Sorry you took it personal. I was only expanding your classification of crazy-assed people to those I take as also off-the-deep-end. I absolutely hate it when others put words in my mouth and it's the furthest I wish to do here on these boards.

I did not take it personally. I knew what you meant. I just meant there is absolutely no reason to think illegal aliens are honest people.

 

[WillowTree]

I am being taxed to house, clothe and feed trespassers.

And, if you elect democrats your taxes will be raised.

 

[Indeependent]

I am being taxed to house, clothe and feed trespassers.

And, if you elect democrats your taxes will be raised.

My Town and County are Democratic for the first time in history.

 

[Pogo]

Day One: Trump - "I would lik eto do something about XYZ".... liberals be like... (**#%#%+@)!!!! Outrageous!!! Unacceptable!!!! I am outraged!!!
A month later: Trump - "I am not going to do that...." liberals be like "Trump is weak!!! Look at him!!! Can't make up his mind! I am outraged!!!

Yeah, ummm... the Supreme Court already told him no.

You remember the Supreme Court? The one Flashbulb Man kept at 8 justices because he wasn't going to consider a nominee from the black guy? The one Rump already put two more on?

 

[Pogo]

There will be no executive order to add the citizenship question on the census.

The citizenship question won't be on the census.

trump has given up trying to put it on the census and says he will have the commerce department will get a count of undocumented people another way.

So the republican scheme of trying to cheat is stopped. This time.

Trump expected to end his fight to add citizenship question to census, sources say

He flips more often than a pansexual.

Like a Dolphin he is.

 

[WillowTree]

I am being taxed to house, clothe and feed trespassers.

And, if you elect democrats your taxes will be raised.

My Town and County are Democratic for the first time in history.

My condolences!

 

[Dana7360]

Cheat? Why is knowing who has citizenship cheating? I would say keeping that info from Americans is cheating.

You're asking a question you know the answer to.

However to be polite, here's the answer to your question:

Dead man's hard drives the 'smoking gun' in census debate?

Now, however, a new wrinkle has emerged on the whole issue in an unusual way—via the hard drives of a deceased Republican strategist. Critics say the hard drives provide evidence for what they've been saying all along, that the citizenship question is a thinly disguised attempt to suppress minority voters and help white Republicans. The Justice Department says that's ridiculous. The Supreme Court has been informed of the new development, but whether it will play a role in justices' deliberations remains unclear. The details:

• The strategist: The GOP's Thomas Hofeller is described by the New York Times as the "Michelangelo of gerrymandering, the architect of partisan political maps that cemented the party's dominance across the country." He died last August, and his estranged daughter, Stephanie Hofeller Lizon, recovered his hard drives.
• His work: The hard drives, which his daughter gave to the advocacy group Common Cause, detail Hofeller's research in Texas. He concluded that if new voting maps were based not on population but more specifically on the number of American citizens of voting age, they "would be advantageous to Republicans and non-Hispanic whites." And they "would clearly be a disadvantage to the Democrats," he wrote, per the Washington Post.

In other words, like I said in my OP, cheat.

So illegals vote?

I'll play your game one more time. If you reply the same ridiculous way, I won't reply.

The citizenship question was put there to get an undercount of the population. Specifically in democratic held areas.

If there's an undercount of the population areas won't get the proper funding nor will they get the proper representation in congress. Thus losing seats that the state should have because of its population.

That will give an unfair benefit to republicans.

If you want to dispute that the proof of it was taken to the Supreme Court. At least one conservative judge on that court realized what trump and the republicans are trying to do and that wilber ross lied to the court about their reasons for that question.

Justice Roberts put in his ruling that the reasons the government were "contrived" which means he's saying he doesn't like being lied to.

You can play stupid all you want but all you're doing is making a fool of yourself.

You want taxpayers to fund illegals and give them representation? And, who is cheating?

Yes I do. It's what the constitution requires.

I see you hate the constitution, the rules that it requires for our government and nation.

Please tell me where in the constitution it says only citizens get representation and only citizens are counted in the census.

I know I'm going to be waiting a long time because the constitution requires ALL people to be counted. There's not one word in there about only citizens being counted.

 

[Indeependent]

Cheat? Why is knowing who has citizenship cheating? I would say keeping that info from Americans is cheating.

You're asking a question you know the answer to.

However to be polite, here's the answer to your question:

Dead man's hard drives the 'smoking gun' in census debate?

Now, however, a new wrinkle has emerged on the whole issue in an unusual way—via the hard drives of a deceased Republican strategist. Critics say the hard drives provide evidence for what they've been saying all along, that the citizenship question is a thinly disguised attempt to suppress minority voters and help white Republicans. The Justice Department says that's ridiculous. The Supreme Court has been informed of the new development, but whether it will play a role in justices' deliberations remains unclear. The details:

• The strategist: The GOP's Thomas Hofeller is described by the New York Times as the "Michelangelo of gerrymandering, the architect of partisan political maps that cemented the party's dominance across the country." He died last August, and his estranged daughter, Stephanie Hofeller Lizon, recovered his hard drives.
• His work: The hard drives, which his daughter gave to the advocacy group Common Cause, detail Hofeller's research in Texas. He concluded that if new voting maps were based not on population but more specifically on the number of American citizens of voting age, they "would be advantageous to Republicans and non-Hispanic whites." And they "would clearly be a disadvantage to the Democrats," he wrote, per the Washington Post.

In other words, like I said in my OP, cheat.

So illegals vote?

I'll play your game one more time. If you reply the same ridiculous way, I won't reply.

The citizenship question was put there to get an undercount of the population. Specifically in democratic held areas.

If there's an undercount of the population areas won't get the proper funding nor will they get the proper representation in congress. Thus losing seats that the state should have because of its population.

That will give an unfair benefit to republicans.

If you want to dispute that the proof of it was taken to the Supreme Court. At least one conservative judge on that court realized what trump and the republicans are trying to do and that wilber ross lied to the court about their reasons for that question.

Justice Roberts put in his ruling that the reasons the government were "contrived" which means he's saying he doesn't like being lied to.

You can play stupid all you want but all you're doing is making a fool of yourself.

You want taxpayers to fund illegals and give them representation? And, who is cheating?

Yes I do. It's what the constitution requires.

I see you hate the constitution, the rules that it requires for our government and nation.

Please tell me where in the constitution it says only citizens get representation and only citizens are counted in the census.

I know I'm going to be waiting a long time because the constitution requires ALL people to be counted. There's not one word in there about only citizens being counted.

When you learn grammar and read the 14th, let me know.
We know it’s been misinterpreted to encourage cheap slave labor.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

There will be no executive order to add the citizenship question on the census.

The citizenship question won't be on the census.

trump has given up trying to put it on the census and says he will have the commerce department will get a count of undocumented people another way.

So the republican scheme of trying to cheat is stopped. This time.

Trump expected to end his fight to add citizenship question to census, sources say

Cheating is getting credit for non citizens