Trump is currently addressing the March against Women's Reproductive Rights

[Dragonlady]

Seriously, does anyone believe that Donald Trump gives a shit one way or another about whether a woman can get a legal abortion?

Easiest votes he’ll ever get

Without a doubt. It is easy to say your are pro-life.

That is why the Repubs will never work to actually get rid of abortion. It would cost them 75% if their guaranteed votes.


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

It worked for Reagan and W. say your opposed to abortion and will stop it and the right will vote for it. Then do nothing.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

so, what is it before then? it is a frog? A goat? A lion?

Is a tadpole a frog or just a tadpole?
Take your pick.It's a developing human. A potential human. Each stage has it's own term until the next developmental milestone.

A tadpole is one step in the development of an amphibian (more than just frogs). But it is always whatever amphibian family it belongs to.

No different than calling a human child an infant, or a toddler. It is still a human.

Yes, each stage has its own term till the next developmental milestone, but it is always a human, nothing else. A fetus is no less a human than a toddler

A potential human. If the mother miscarries at four weeks, did she lose a human?

Is this a human?

View attachment 172441

A potential human is a made up term, it has no place in science.

Yes, a miscarry is the loss of a human. That is why women (and fathers) feel grief when it happens.

Do you have any kids of your own?

At what point does it become human and why in your estimation?

It becomes a human when it is a unique entity.

Seriously, does anyone believe that Donald Trump gives a shit one way or another about whether a woman can get a legal abortion?

Easiest votes he’ll ever get

Without a doubt. It is easy to say your are pro-life.

That is why the Repubs will never work to actually get rid of abortion. It would cost them 75% if their guaranteed votes.


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

It worked for Reagan and W. say your opposed to abortion and will stop it and the right will vote for it. Then do nothing.

The last thing in the world the GOP wants is for abortion to stop being an issue. It is far and away their number one vote generator.

 

[Norman]

Jesus one HUNDRED percent approves of Trump's serial adultery and also approves of any abortions that Trump paid for

Trump is the God-Emperor, Jesus would be only the son of god, a notch below him.

I don't think Trump should care, Jesus being a notch below him. Swallow that Mr. bible thumper.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Seriously, does anyone believe that Donald Trump gives a shit one way or another about whether a woman can get a legal abortion?

“Women’s reproductive rights”....that’s a fancy way of saying butchering the unborn for selfish reasons.

lol, then you believe that women who get abortions should get the death penalty?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Life doesn't begin at conception? What stage do you figure life begins?

What does your question have to do with my answer?

You differentiated between the two. If life begins at conception then the distinction is irrelevant. The morning after pill can prevent the fertilized egg from implanting in the uterine wall. Isn't that the same thing as abortion then?

I do not personally consider the fertilized egg to be the "start of life" as the fertilized egg is still just a part of the female. It is not until there is implantation in the uterus and the zygote is created that there is a separate and distinct entity, in my opinion. I know not everyone agrees with that view, but it is mine

So who's view do we use to settle the law?

It is a moot point as an abortion is not performed on a fertilized egg.

Actually some abortifacients do exactly that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

 

[2aguy]

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

Yep.......the only reason to end the life of a baby is if giving birth will end the mother's life.....that is the only reason. That isn't murder, that is triage....trying to save a life...and then, even that should be up to the mother as there are many women who will give up their lives to allow their babies to be born.....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

There is no easy answer to your question. Not many people want to execute mothers and abortion doctors for homicide. Yet instinctively we know that that "thing" in the womb is a human and that is why we have laws that protect even the baby in the womb.

No expectant parent ever said "Boy, I cannot wait for our baby to magically transform into a human" , they are viewed as that from the moment they find out they are pregnant.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

There is no easy answer to your question. Not many people want to execute mothers and abortion doctors for homicide. .

To the people running around saying abortion is murder it should be the easiest answer in the world.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

Yep.......the only reason to end the life of a baby is if giving birth will end the mother's life.....that is the only reason. That isn't murder, that is triage....trying to save a life...and then, even that should be up to the mother as there are many women who will give up their lives to allow their babies to be born.....

And not 5% of Americans would agree with you. So there's where you lose.

 

[2aguy]

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

Yep.......the only reason to end the life of a baby is if giving birth will end the mother's life.....that is the only reason. That isn't murder, that is triage....trying to save a life...and then, even that should be up to the mother as there are many women who will give up their lives to allow their babies to be born.....

And not 5% of Americans would agree with you. So there's where you lose.

It doesn't matter if no one agrees with me.....the life of a human begins at conception....that is fact. Ending that life is murder, that is a fact. The only ones who lose will be those who understand the truth, and yet, because they are afraid of people like you calling them names, go along with the lie that killing a baby isn't killing a baby.

 

[ding]

you are eating a chicken egg.

Please explain to me how a fetus does not meet the requirements for a living organism.

When does the magic happen that transforms the non-human into a human? Are you a big Harry Potter fan?

When does the magic happen that transforms the non-human into a human?

Logically, it's a human when it can survive outside of the womb.

so, what is it before then? it is a frog? A goat? A lion?

Is a tadpole a frog or just a tadpole?
Take your pick.It's a developing human. A potential human. Each stage has it's own term until the next developmental milestone.

A tadpole is one step in the development of an amphibian (more than just frogs). But it is always whatever amphibian family it belongs to.

No different than calling a human child an infant, or a toddler. It is still a human.

Yes, each stage has its own term till the next developmental milestone, but it is always a human, nothing else. A fetus is no less a human than a toddler

A potential human. If the mother miscarries at four weeks, did she lose a human?

Is this a human?

View attachment 172441

Yes. It is a human. It isn't a potential human. It is a human with potential. But make no mistake, it is fully human. Science says so.

 

[ding]

The Constitution says otherwise.

No, the SCOTUS said otherwise. The right to private should not give one the right to kill another human being


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

Does a fetus meet these requirements?
hu·man be·ing
noun

1. a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance

Hek man, they dont even meet basic requirements for living organisms..

Learn some science and stop rationalizing.

TN spends his days and nights hitting the bong, he can't be bothered.

I know... you hate biology. Bless your heart

Can you show me where biology says that a zygote is not human?

 

[2aguy]

Logically, it's a human when it can survive outside of the womb.

so, what is it before then? it is a frog? A goat? A lion?

Is a tadpole a frog or just a tadpole?
Take your pick.It's a developing human. A potential human. Each stage has it's own term until the next developmental milestone.

A tadpole is one step in the development of an amphibian (more than just frogs). But it is always whatever amphibian family it belongs to.

No different than calling a human child an infant, or a toddler. It is still a human.

Yes, each stage has its own term till the next developmental milestone, but it is always a human, nothing else. A fetus is no less a human than a toddler

A potential human. If the mother miscarries at four weeks, did she lose a human?

Is this a human?

View attachment 172441

Yes. It is a human. It isn't a potential human. It is a human with potential. But make no mistake, it is fully human. Science says so.

Ding....I like your signature quote.........nice work on explaining socialism...

 

[ding]

It becomes a human when it is a unique entity.

Which is at conception.

 

[ding]

so, what is it before then? it is a frog? A goat? A lion?

Is a tadpole a frog or just a tadpole?
Take your pick.It's a developing human. A potential human. Each stage has it's own term until the next developmental milestone.

A tadpole is one step in the development of an amphibian (more than just frogs). But it is always whatever amphibian family it belongs to.

No different than calling a human child an infant, or a toddler. It is still a human.

Yes, each stage has its own term till the next developmental milestone, but it is always a human, nothing else. A fetus is no less a human than a toddler

A potential human. If the mother miscarries at four weeks, did she lose a human?

Is this a human?

View attachment 172441

Yes. It is a human. It isn't a potential human. It is a human with potential. But make no mistake, it is fully human. Science says so.

Ding....I like your signature quote.........nice work on explaining socialism...

Thanks. Feel free to use it as your own. Pass it on.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

When you kill this human, you aren't engaged in reproductive rights...you are committing murder....

20 Weeks Pregnant - Pregnancy Week-by-Week

20 WEEKS PREGNANT ULTRASOUND

Your 20-week fetus now has working taste buds. He or she is gulping down several ounces of amniotic fluid each day—that's significantly more than before.

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

There is no easy answer to your question. Not many people want to execute mothers and abortion doctors for homicide. .

To the people running around saying abortion is murder it should be the easiest answer in the world.

Answers are always easy for the zealots on both sides that see everything in black and white. Just as there are those on the right that want to call it murder there are those on the left that want zero restrictions. Sadly it is the zealots that keep anything from getting accomplished.

 

[2aguy]

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

So you believe an abortion at 20 weeks should be the crime of murder and the woman get the death penalty?

Is that the punishment that fits the crime?

I a person murders a woman that is 20 weeks pregnant they will be charged with 2 murders.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question?

If you believe

1. Life begins at conception, then,

2. a twenty week old fetus is no different that a 2 year old child, therefore,

3. the penalty for killing one should be no different than the penalty for killing the other.

eh?

There is no easy answer to your question. Not many people want to execute mothers and abortion doctors for homicide. .

To the people running around saying abortion is murder it should be the easiest answer in the world.

Answers are always easy for the zealots on both sides that see everything in black and white. Just as there are those on the right that want to call it murder there are those on the left that want zero restrictions. Sadly it is the zealots that keep anything from getting accomplished.

I am curious....if a baby is a baby at coneption...and is a human being... Where is the grey area in killing a baby?