Trump reverses course, says it's 'too soon' for Georgia Gov. Kemp to reopen state

[Lesh]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

The Big mistake you libbies keep making is you state flu deaths as a 12 months basis. 99% of all flu death occur in a 5 month period. Please don’t put your mathematical retardations on display over and over again

But there have been a bunch MORE than died on a BAD flu year in just TWO months... and it ain’t over yet

 

[Redfish]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

The Big mistake you libbies keep making is you state flu deaths as a 12 months basis. 99% of all flu death occur in a 5 month period. Please don’t put your mathematical retardations on display over and over again

But there have been a bunch MORE than died on a BAD flu year in just TWO months... and it ain’t over yet

600 hundred innocent lives were lost in one week in one clinic in Kentucky. not to the virus, but to abortion. But those lives don't matter to you do they? How about the thousands that die on the roads every year? cancer deaths? diabetes deaths, heart disease deaths, smoking deaths? none of those count or matter, right? only the chinese virus deaths matter and we must destroy our country and save China--------------you fricken moron, you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Redfish]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

The Big mistake you libbies keep making is you state flu deaths as a 12 months basis. 99% of all flu death occur in a 5 month period. Please don’t put your mathematical retardations on display over and over again

But there have been a bunch MORE than died on a BAD flu year in just TWO months... and it ain’t over yet

as to "over" disease will never be over, and the government cannot protect you from everything that might hurt you. There are risks in being alive, I think the risks are worth it. But you are free to live in a basement by yourself for the rest of your life to "stay safe".

 

[Lesh]

This horror is worse than even the most deadly flu year

 

[Seawytch]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

in terms of mortality rates it is very much like the flu.

How many lives were lost to abortions since January? More than from the virus by a large margin, but those lives mean nothing to you, right?

Next, of the deaths that have been attributed to the virus, how many of those people would have died anyway due to their underlying medical conditions? Answer that and then we can talk about the virus sensibly. But you can't because there is no way to know, so we just count all of them as virus deaths. Does that really make sense to you?

No, idiot, in terms of mortality it is much, much worse.

Comparing COVID-19 Deaths to Flu Deaths Is like Comparing Apples to Oranges

One Chart Explains Why COVID-19 Is Worse Than the Flu - The Bulwark

1. Science Talk By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.” Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big...

thebulwark.com

​

By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.”​

​

Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big bunch of ninnies.”​

​

It’s hard to know whether these arguments are just partisan bs meant to alibi Donald Trump, or if they are serious beliefs resulting from a misunderstanding of data.​

​

Since it's you, fishy, it's probably both.

One of the mistakes being made by people who think that COVID-19 is “just like the flu” is that they don’t actually understand the reported death numbers for either virus.​

​

The number most often cited for annual flu deaths is 60,000. This number is a composite. It includes a relatively small number of deaths directly ascribed to influenza (meaning, there was a positive flu-test involved) PLUS a much larger number of deaths from pneumonia, where it is assumed that because flu-like symptoms were present, the influenza virus was likely at play.​

​

This is the exact opposite of how we’ve been tabulating COVID-19 deaths.​

​

So right from the beginning, the COVID-19 and flu death numbers are apples and oranges:​

​

• The “flu death” numbers are mostly deaths that we assume are related to influenza, even though only a small minority of them were proven to have influenza present.
  • The COVID-19 numbers are made up only of deaths that have an accompanying positive test for coronavirus and leave out deaths from COVID-19 like symptoms.

The people that died, died of COVID 19. Their underlying condition didn't kill them, COVID did.

from your cite
The number most often cited for annual flu deaths is 60,000. This number is a composite. It includes a relatively small number of deaths directly ascribed to influenza (meaning, there was a positive flu-test involved) PLUS a much larger number of deaths from pneumonia, where it is assumed that because flu-like symptoms were present, the influenza virus was likely at play.

exactly the same as what is being done with the virus counts.

but you are free to live the rest of your life in your basement, going out is voluntary, not mandatory.

Wrong, imbecile. They are NOT doing with COVID what the do with the flu. Anyone listed as a COVID death tested positive for COVID 19. That is not true of influenza deaths.

 

[Seawytch]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

in terms of mortality rates it is very much like the flu.

How many lives were lost to abortions since January? More than from the virus by a large margin, but those lives mean nothing to you, right?

Next, of the deaths that have been attributed to the virus, how many of those people would have died anyway due to their underlying medical conditions? Answer that and then we can talk about the virus sensibly. But you can't because there is no way to know, so we just count all of them as virus deaths. Does that really make sense to you?

No, idiot, in terms of mortality it is much, much worse.

Comparing COVID-19 Deaths to Flu Deaths Is like Comparing Apples to Oranges

One Chart Explains Why COVID-19 Is Worse Than the Flu - The Bulwark

1. Science Talk By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.” Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big...

thebulwark.com

​

By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.”​

​

Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big bunch of ninnies.”​

​

It’s hard to know whether these arguments are just partisan bs meant to alibi Donald Trump, or if they are serious beliefs resulting from a misunderstanding of data.​

​

Since it's you, fishy, it's probably both.

One of the mistakes being made by people who think that COVID-19 is “just like the flu” is that they don’t actually understand the reported death numbers for either virus.​

​

The number most often cited for annual flu deaths is 60,000. This number is a composite. It includes a relatively small number of deaths directly ascribed to influenza (meaning, there was a positive flu-test involved) PLUS a much larger number of deaths from pneumonia, where it is assumed that because flu-like symptoms were present, the influenza virus was likely at play.​

​

This is the exact opposite of how we’ve been tabulating COVID-19 deaths.​

​

So right from the beginning, the COVID-19 and flu death numbers are apples and oranges:​

​

• The “flu death” numbers are mostly deaths that we assume are related to influenza, even though only a small minority of them were proven to have influenza present.
  • The COVID-19 numbers are made up only of deaths that have an accompanying positive test for coronavirus and leave out deaths from COVID-19 like symptoms.

The people that died, died of COVID 19. Their underlying condition didn't kill them, COVID did.

I don't know who the Bulwark is but they are lying in that article. Hint, witchey, everything you find on the internet is NOT true.

It doesn't matter who they are, links are provided. Dispute the findings then, moron.

 

[lennypartiv]

New data from the University of Pennsylvania suggests that relaxing lockdowns across U.S. cities and states could have serious consequences for the country’s battle to contain the coronavirus, which has infected over a million people while killing more than 66,000 people.

We have to reopen the economy. I know you libs love collecting unemployment while you watch TV all day, but our economy can't take this anymore.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves (R) is reconsidering his plan to keep reversing his stay-at-home order after his state saw its largest spike in COVID-19 cases in one day following his first partial rollback.

I clearly do not understand what is going on. Have number of state governors lost their minds? Dozens of states are reopening for business albeit under restrictions, such as operating at a lower capacity, requiring workers and customers to wear masks, and enforcing social distancing. In a number of cases local governments are contradicting the orders of the governors, and so are millions of Americans who are watching the progress of the virus. Seemingly, several governors are not doing the same and their lip service to the safety of American citizens is getting quite sickening.

Republican governors like Kemp, Abbott, DeSantis, and Lee say one thing and do the very opposite, endangering the lives of Americans.

Here the facts. Nationally, in one day, there were 26,736 new cases for a total of 1,187,510. In one day, there were 1,137 news deaths for a total of 68,581.

And governors are opening gyms, barbershops, bars, beauty salons, restaurants, and other non-essential businesses. That's crazy!

United States Coronavirus: 1,187,768 Cases and 68,587 Deaths - Worldometer

 

[basquebromance]

/thread

 

[basquebromance]

Big Brian Kemp is gonna end up being a huge success story, my friends

/thread

 

[Cecilie1200]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

You leftists keep squawking, "But that's EACH YEAR" like it's deeply significant. How many months out of a year is the flu active?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves (R) is reconsidering his plan to keep reversing his stay-at-home order after his state saw its largest spike in COVID-19 cases in one day following his first partial rollback.

I clearly do not understand what is going on. Have number of state governors lost their minds? Dozens of states are reopening for business albeit under restrictions, such as operating at a lower capacity, requiring workers and customers to wear masks, and enforcing social distancing. In a number of cases local governments are contradicting the orders of the governors, and so are millions of Americans who are watching the progress of the virus. Seemingly, several governors are not doing the same and their lip service to the safety of American citizens is getting quite sickening.

Republican governors like Kemp, Abbott, DeSantis, and Lee say one thing and do the very opposite, endangering the lives of Americans.

Here the facts. Nationally, in one day, there were 26,736 new cases for a total of 1,187,510. In one day, there were 1,137 news deaths for a total of 68,581.

And governors are opening gyms, barbershops, bars, beauty salons, restaurants, and other non-essential businesses. That's crazy!

United States Coronavirus: 1,187,768 Cases and 68,587 Deaths - Worldometer

You're right. You don't understand what's going on.

 

[Cecilie1200]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

in terms of mortality rates it is very much like the flu.

How many lives were lost to abortions since January? More than from the virus by a large margin, but those lives mean nothing to you, right?

Next, of the deaths that have been attributed to the virus, how many of those people would have died anyway due to their underlying medical conditions? Answer that and then we can talk about the virus sensibly. But you can't because there is no way to know, so we just count all of them as virus deaths. Does that really make sense to you?

No, idiot, in terms of mortality it is much, much worse.

Comparing COVID-19 Deaths to Flu Deaths Is like Comparing Apples to Oranges

One Chart Explains Why COVID-19 Is Worse Than the Flu - The Bulwark

1. Science Talk By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.” Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big...

thebulwark.com

​

By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.”​

​

Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big bunch of ninnies.”​

​

It’s hard to know whether these arguments are just partisan bs meant to alibi Donald Trump, or if they are serious beliefs resulting from a misunderstanding of data.​

​

Since it's you, fishy, it's probably both.

One of the mistakes being made by people who think that COVID-19 is “just like the flu” is that they don’t actually understand the reported death numbers for either virus.​

​

The number most often cited for annual flu deaths is 60,000. This number is a composite. It includes a relatively small number of deaths directly ascribed to influenza (meaning, there was a positive flu-test involved) PLUS a much larger number of deaths from pneumonia, where it is assumed that because flu-like symptoms were present, the influenza virus was likely at play.​

​

This is the exact opposite of how we’ve been tabulating COVID-19 deaths.​

​

So right from the beginning, the COVID-19 and flu death numbers are apples and oranges:​

​

• The “flu death” numbers are mostly deaths that we assume are related to influenza, even though only a small minority of them were proven to have influenza present.
  • The COVID-19 numbers are made up only of deaths that have an accompanying positive test for coronavirus and leave out deaths from COVID-19 like symptoms.

The people that died, died of COVID 19. Their underlying condition didn't kill them, COVID did.

from your cite
The number most often cited for annual flu deaths is 60,000. This number is a composite. It includes a relatively small number of deaths directly ascribed to influenza (meaning, there was a positive flu-test involved) PLUS a much larger number of deaths from pneumonia, where it is assumed that because flu-like symptoms were present, the influenza virus was likely at play.

exactly the same as what is being done with the virus counts.

but you are free to live the rest of your life in your basement, going out is voluntary, not mandatory.

Wrong, imbecile. They are NOT doing with COVID what the do with the flu. Anyone listed as a COVID death tested positive for COVID 19. That is not true of influenza deaths.

Wrong, useful idiot. It's already been established and proven that they ARE marking deaths as "Covid-19" that weren't actually from Covid-19, and the fact that you so slavishly wanted to believe that the facts supported your treasured panic that you didn't bother to find out for sure doesn't mean anything except that you're the slave to agenda we always knew you were.

 

[Cecilie1200]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

in terms of mortality rates it is very much like the flu.

How many lives were lost to abortions since January? More than from the virus by a large margin, but those lives mean nothing to you, right?

Next, of the deaths that have been attributed to the virus, how many of those people would have died anyway due to their underlying medical conditions? Answer that and then we can talk about the virus sensibly. But you can't because there is no way to know, so we just count all of them as virus deaths. Does that really make sense to you?

No, idiot, in terms of mortality it is much, much worse.

Comparing COVID-19 Deaths to Flu Deaths Is like Comparing Apples to Oranges

One Chart Explains Why COVID-19 Is Worse Than the Flu - The Bulwark

1. Science Talk By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.” Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big...

thebulwark.com

​

By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.”​

​

Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big bunch of ninnies.”​

​

It’s hard to know whether these arguments are just partisan bs meant to alibi Donald Trump, or if they are serious beliefs resulting from a misunderstanding of data.​

​

Since it's you, fishy, it's probably both.

One of the mistakes being made by people who think that COVID-19 is “just like the flu” is that they don’t actually understand the reported death numbers for either virus.​

​

The number most often cited for annual flu deaths is 60,000. This number is a composite. It includes a relatively small number of deaths directly ascribed to influenza (meaning, there was a positive flu-test involved) PLUS a much larger number of deaths from pneumonia, where it is assumed that because flu-like symptoms were present, the influenza virus was likely at play.​

​

This is the exact opposite of how we’ve been tabulating COVID-19 deaths.​

​

So right from the beginning, the COVID-19 and flu death numbers are apples and oranges:​

​

• The “flu death” numbers are mostly deaths that we assume are related to influenza, even though only a small minority of them were proven to have influenza present.
  • The COVID-19 numbers are made up only of deaths that have an accompanying positive test for coronavirus and leave out deaths from COVID-19 like symptoms.

The people that died, died of COVID 19. Their underlying condition didn't kill them, COVID did.

I don't know who the Bulwark is but they are lying in that article. Hint, witchey, everything you find on the internet is NOT true.

It doesn't matter who they are, links are provided. Dispute the findings then, moron.

"You have to treat all my links as reputable sources, even though I dismiss any link that contradicts me, because reality is defined by ME WISHING REALLY HARD!"

 

[Seawytch]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

You leftists keep squawking, "But that's EACH YEAR" like it's deeply significant. How many months out of a year is the flu active?

It's more than 45 fucking days, twat.

 

[Seawytch]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

in terms of mortality rates it is very much like the flu.

How many lives were lost to abortions since January? More than from the virus by a large margin, but those lives mean nothing to you, right?

Next, of the deaths that have been attributed to the virus, how many of those people would have died anyway due to their underlying medical conditions? Answer that and then we can talk about the virus sensibly. But you can't because there is no way to know, so we just count all of them as virus deaths. Does that really make sense to you?

No, idiot, in terms of mortality it is much, much worse.

Comparing COVID-19 Deaths to Flu Deaths Is like Comparing Apples to Oranges

One Chart Explains Why COVID-19 Is Worse Than the Flu - The Bulwark

1. Science Talk By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.” Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big...

thebulwark.com

​

By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.”​

​

Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big bunch of ninnies.”​

​

It’s hard to know whether these arguments are just partisan bs meant to alibi Donald Trump, or if they are serious beliefs resulting from a misunderstanding of data.​

​

Since it's you, fishy, it's probably both.

One of the mistakes being made by people who think that COVID-19 is “just like the flu” is that they don’t actually understand the reported death numbers for either virus.​

​

The number most often cited for annual flu deaths is 60,000. This number is a composite. It includes a relatively small number of deaths directly ascribed to influenza (meaning, there was a positive flu-test involved) PLUS a much larger number of deaths from pneumonia, where it is assumed that because flu-like symptoms were present, the influenza virus was likely at play.​

​

This is the exact opposite of how we’ve been tabulating COVID-19 deaths.​

​

So right from the beginning, the COVID-19 and flu death numbers are apples and oranges:​

​

• The “flu death” numbers are mostly deaths that we assume are related to influenza, even though only a small minority of them were proven to have influenza present.
  • The COVID-19 numbers are made up only of deaths that have an accompanying positive test for coronavirus and leave out deaths from COVID-19 like symptoms.

The people that died, died of COVID 19. Their underlying condition didn't kill them, COVID did.

from your cite
The number most often cited for annual flu deaths is 60,000. This number is a composite. It includes a relatively small number of deaths directly ascribed to influenza (meaning, there was a positive flu-test involved) PLUS a much larger number of deaths from pneumonia, where it is assumed that because flu-like symptoms were present, the influenza virus was likely at play.

exactly the same as what is being done with the virus counts.

but you are free to live the rest of your life in your basement, going out is voluntary, not mandatory.

Wrong, imbecile. They are NOT doing with COVID what the do with the flu. Anyone listed as a COVID death tested positive for COVID 19. That is not true of influenza deaths.

Wrong, useful idiot. It's already been established and proven that they ARE marking deaths as "Covid-19" that weren't actually from Covid-19, and the fact that you so slavishly wanted to believe that the facts supported your treasured panic that you didn't bother to find out for sure doesn't mean anything except that you're the slave to agenda we always knew you were.

Wrong, you diseased dripping slit. Every person who is attributed to have died due to COVID 19 have tested positive for COVID 19. That is not true of people who are ascribed to flue deaths. (as the provided data points out even clearly enough for Trump butt sniffers)

 

[Seawytch]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

in terms of mortality rates it is very much like the flu.

How many lives were lost to abortions since January? More than from the virus by a large margin, but those lives mean nothing to you, right?

Next, of the deaths that have been attributed to the virus, how many of those people would have died anyway due to their underlying medical conditions? Answer that and then we can talk about the virus sensibly. But you can't because there is no way to know, so we just count all of them as virus deaths. Does that really make sense to you?

No, idiot, in terms of mortality it is much, much worse.

Comparing COVID-19 Deaths to Flu Deaths Is like Comparing Apples to Oranges

One Chart Explains Why COVID-19 Is Worse Than the Flu - The Bulwark

1. Science Talk By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.” Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big...

thebulwark.com

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By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.”​

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Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big bunch of ninnies.”​

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It’s hard to know whether these arguments are just partisan bs meant to alibi Donald Trump, or if they are serious beliefs resulting from a misunderstanding of data.​

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Since it's you, fishy, it's probably both.

One of the mistakes being made by people who think that COVID-19 is “just like the flu” is that they don’t actually understand the reported death numbers for either virus.​

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The number most often cited for annual flu deaths is 60,000. This number is a composite. It includes a relatively small number of deaths directly ascribed to influenza (meaning, there was a positive flu-test involved) PLUS a much larger number of deaths from pneumonia, where it is assumed that because flu-like symptoms were present, the influenza virus was likely at play.​

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This is the exact opposite of how we’ve been tabulating COVID-19 deaths.​

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So right from the beginning, the COVID-19 and flu death numbers are apples and oranges:​

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• The “flu death” numbers are mostly deaths that we assume are related to influenza, even though only a small minority of them were proven to have influenza present.
  • The COVID-19 numbers are made up only of deaths that have an accompanying positive test for coronavirus and leave out deaths from COVID-19 like symptoms.

The people that died, died of COVID 19. Their underlying condition didn't kill them, COVID did.

I don't know who the Bulwark is but they are lying in that article. Hint, witchey, everything you find on the internet is NOT true.

It doesn't matter who they are, links are provided. Dispute the findings then, moron.

"You have to treat all my links as reputable sources, even though I dismiss any link that contradicts me, because reality is defined by ME WISHING REALLY HARD!"

Sorry, buttcheeks, but the only one "wishing really hard" for data to support them is Trump and his ass lickers.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Where the trump sheep ?
I am dying to see what excuse they will find for this.
Obama's fault?
Hillary's?
Or the DNC?

Your idiocy shines with the light of a thousand suns.

So the guy says opening Georgia is okay. Liberals lose their minds.

So, then the guy says opening Georgia isn't okay. Liberals lose their minds.

This is proof positive that you can't make a liberal happy, because all they want to do is whine and piss and bitch and moan about Trump.

It's also why no intelligent person takes them seriously...

 

[Cecilie1200]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

You leftists keep squawking, "But that's EACH YEAR" like it's deeply significant. How many months out of a year is the flu active?

It's more than 45 fucking days, twat.

It's also been around a lot longer, we know a lot more about it, and we've had more time for our immune systems to adjust to it, twat. Would you like to talk about the influenza epidemics that wiped out entire swaths of continents back when they weren't so familiar?

Btw, did you miss where there's evidence that Covid-19 actually showed up earlier than we previously thought, twat?

 

[Cecilie1200]

1. the virus is no where near as deadly as they originally told us. (less than .5% mortality rate,

Your numbers are nowhere near close to correct.

So far it is ESTIMATED to be 1.5-3% mortality. That number will likely come down...to 1% as more testing is done.

That is a HORRIFIC number of deaths if we let it run wild

Horrific? 60 thousand out of 330 million? About the same number that die of flu every year, fewer than die of car accidents, and ten times fewer than die from abortion. Any death from an invader virus is terrible, but we need to keep this in perspective. The wizards from the medical world originally told us 1 million americans could die from this virus. Were they wrong or were they lying? Why did China ban domestic travel but allow travel from Wuhan to the entire world? We need to get the real facts on this thing before running up the mountain screaming "the sky is falling"

60,000 die from the flu each year. This has killed 60,000 in two months. Just stop with the flu comparison bullshit. This is NOTHING like the flu.

in terms of mortality rates it is very much like the flu.

How many lives were lost to abortions since January? More than from the virus by a large margin, but those lives mean nothing to you, right?

Next, of the deaths that have been attributed to the virus, how many of those people would have died anyway due to their underlying medical conditions? Answer that and then we can talk about the virus sensibly. But you can't because there is no way to know, so we just count all of them as virus deaths. Does that really make sense to you?

No, idiot, in terms of mortality it is much, much worse.

Comparing COVID-19 Deaths to Flu Deaths Is like Comparing Apples to Oranges

One Chart Explains Why COVID-19 Is Worse Than the Flu - The Bulwark

1. Science Talk By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.” Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big...

thebulwark.com

​

By now you have probably seen people explaining that, “Actually, the coronavirus pandemic is not much different from the flu and all of this fuss is just a big overreaction.”​

​

Or, “More people die in car accidents every year and you don’t see us shutting down auto travel, you big bunch of ninnies.”​

​

It’s hard to know whether these arguments are just partisan bs meant to alibi Donald Trump, or if they are serious beliefs resulting from a misunderstanding of data.​

​

Since it's you, fishy, it's probably both.

One of the mistakes being made by people who think that COVID-19 is “just like the flu” is that they don’t actually understand the reported death numbers for either virus.​

​

The number most often cited for annual flu deaths is 60,000. This number is a composite. It includes a relatively small number of deaths directly ascribed to influenza (meaning, there was a positive flu-test involved) PLUS a much larger number of deaths from pneumonia, where it is assumed that because flu-like symptoms were present, the influenza virus was likely at play.​

​

This is the exact opposite of how we’ve been tabulating COVID-19 deaths.​

​

So right from the beginning, the COVID-19 and flu death numbers are apples and oranges:​

​

• The “flu death” numbers are mostly deaths that we assume are related to influenza, even though only a small minority of them were proven to have influenza present.
  • The COVID-19 numbers are made up only of deaths that have an accompanying positive test for coronavirus and leave out deaths from COVID-19 like symptoms.

The people that died, died of COVID 19. Their underlying condition didn't kill them, COVID did.

from your cite
The number most often cited for annual flu deaths is 60,000. This number is a composite. It includes a relatively small number of deaths directly ascribed to influenza (meaning, there was a positive flu-test involved) PLUS a much larger number of deaths from pneumonia, where it is assumed that because flu-like symptoms were present, the influenza virus was likely at play.

exactly the same as what is being done with the virus counts.

but you are free to live the rest of your life in your basement, going out is voluntary, not mandatory.

Wrong, imbecile. They are NOT doing with COVID what the do with the flu. Anyone listed as a COVID death tested positive for COVID 19. That is not true of influenza deaths.

Wrong, useful idiot. It's already been established and proven that they ARE marking deaths as "Covid-19" that weren't actually from Covid-19, and the fact that you so slavishly wanted to believe that the facts supported your treasured panic that you didn't bother to find out for sure doesn't mean anything except that you're the slave to agenda we always knew you were.

Wrong, you diseased dripping slit. Every person who is attributed to have died due to COVID 19 have tested positive for COVID 19. That is not true of people who are ascribed to flue deaths. (as the provided data points out even clearly enough for Trump butt sniffers)

Awww, Seabiscuit, why so bitter? Did someone interrupt your little fantasy where everything you want to believe is perfect and true and uttered by glowing unicorns with rainbow tails? GOOD. And since I love reminding you what a scorned nothing you are in the real world, let me just add this:

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

www.webmd.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/which-deaths-count-toward-the-covid-19-death-toll-it-depends-on-the-state/2020/04/16/bca84ae0-7991-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html

Colorado, by contrast, has included some deaths where the disease caused by the novel coronavirus was deemed probable — based on symptoms and possible exposure — but not confirmed through a test.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its website this week to explicitly say that cases where the infection was not confirmed by a test may now be counted.

So much for your "EVERY death was tested" assertion. Feel free to piss off to wherever lifelong losers go.