Trump says foreign college graduates should automatically get green cards

[Mac-7]

Hey we agree on something. I am considering not voting for Trump

Are you a canadian too like Dragonlady?

 

[XponentialChaos]

I dont know

You’ll have to ask them

You want me to ask them why something doesn’t concern you?

That doesn’t make sense. Only you can speak for yourself.

 

[Mac-7]

You want me to ask them why something doesn’t concern you?

That doesn’t make sense. Only you can speak for yourself.

All I can tell you is that I like the idea

There’s nothing else for me to say

 

[iku]

Are you a canadian too like Dragonlady?

I wouldn't be caught dead in Canada. Shithole third world county

 

[Hellbilly]

There is a problem, it is you and your ilk.

Your ilk brought a genocide to this land.
Your ilk brought smallpox, plague and cannibalism to this land.
Your ilk sterilized our women.
Your ilk stole our children and forced them into boarding schools where they were tortured raped and murdered all in the name of Christianity.
You support these actions. All MAGA does.
If there is a hell you and the rest if your cult will certainly spend eternity there.
A’ho!

 

[citygator]

BUT
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

_ Real estate mogul Donald Trump, presidential announcement speech, June 16, 2015

That is going to look amazing on his statue right above the “Grab them by the P” plaque.

 

[Skylar]

sod off, you're on ignore for being dishonest and nitpicking. Are you from Canada too, pechance? LOL

Your question was imprecise. I'm trying to figure out who you're talking about.

Apparently, even you don't know.

Run along.

 

[XponentialChaos]

If there is verifiable evidence of a surge in tuition rates because of this policy.

“Verifiable evidence” is kind of vague. Sounds like you’re just planning to search the internet for someone who agrees with you, but that still doesn’t establish causation.

 

[Skylar]

“Verifiable evidence” is kind of vague. Sounds like you’re just planning to search the internet for someone who agrees with you, but that still doesn’t establish causation.

Yup. And worse, we already have international students in enormous numbers. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands. If the presence of international students in large number cause tuition to raise, they would have already.

But no such causation has ever been factually established.

 

[XponentialChaos]

All I can tell you is that I like the idea

There’s nothing else for me to say

You like the idea because you’re ignoring the negative implications, like the possibility of bringing in spies and terrorists, which deeply concerns your fellow Trumpsters.

You said you think for yourself. Let’s see it.

 

[iku]

“Verifiable evidence” is kind of vague. Sounds like you’re just planning to search the internet for someone who agrees with you, but that still doesn’t establish causation.

causation - the process of causing something to happen

If reports come out from verifiable sources and the data proves without a doubt that this policy led to higher tuition costs I am coming back to this thread, putting your teeth on the e-curb, and e-curb stomping you and the e-pleasure will be all mine.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You do understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration, right?

Trump said in 2016 he was putting an end H-1B visas because American jobs should go to Americans. Now he says every foreign college graduate should receive an automatic green gard.

Why did he change his mind?

 

[XponentialChaos]

causation - the process of causing something to happen

If reports come out from verifiable sources and the data proves without a doubt that this policy led to higher tuition costs I am coming back to this thread, putting your teeth on the e-curb, and e-curb stomping you and the e-pleasure will be all mine.

Still vague.

“Verifiable sources” = “someone who agrees with me”

“proves without a doubt that this policy led to higher tuition costs” = “he thinks this”

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Why not?

I mean, if you get a degree in Lesbian People of Color Basket weaving studies...not you.


But STEM especially, Doctors and medical specialists, computer programming, administration, business and the like...those are the people we want to fast track into the legal immigration pipeline.

That's not what he's proposing.

 

[Missourian]

That's not what he's proposing.

But it is.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

But it is.

No, it isn't.

"I do promise," Trump said. "But I happen to agree, otherwise I wouldn't promise... You graduate from a college, I think you should get automatically as part of your diploma a green card to be able to stay in this country and that includes junior colleges too."

 

[bendog]

That’s not cause-and-effect. That’s just a difference in cost in an area that has had growing costs for a long time.

True to an extent. And in truth, I split the truth with Iku. First, US scholarship kids get a break, partially, from foreigners paying full price .. or less than full but not with the aid US kids get - esp at Ivy's near Ivys and little Ivys. That's where I split with Iku. The foreigners go home ... unless the progs hand out green cards without demanding employers show they can't fill jobs. Trump also just likes cheap labor. (sell that to the Aryans)

Iku says US tuition will increase because of this. Possibly true, and it would be measurable. For example, Ford has to know how much a Tauras (hah) bumper costs each year, and where and why prices rose or fell. Ford prices accordingly.

But, the current spat seems to be Trump capitulating to Capital by FLIP FLOPPING

DOL Wage Rule For Immigrants And H-1B Visa Holders Could Be History

A federal rule that might have inflated salaries for foreign-born scientists and engineers would have been more restrictive.

www.forbes.com

 

[mudwhistle]

Trump said in 2016 he was putting an end H-1B visas because American jobs should go to Americans. Now he says every foreign college graduate should receive an automatic green gard.

Why did he change his mind?

Because the unemployment rate went down.
We have more jobs than we did when he took over from Obama.
The UE rate was 4.7% on Nov 2016, and is currently 3.9%
Obama had a high of 10% after congress and the fed tanked the economy.
It was much higher, but UE is only counting people who are looking for work, not long-term unemployed.

This is where the labor participation rate comes into play. Obama's policies dropped the labor participation rate which dropped from 66% to 62.4%.
Trump had the LPR going up until COVID hit and it dropped to 60.1%.
Right now it's at 62.5%

Civilian labor force participation rate

www.bls.gov

 

[iku]

True to an extent. And in truth, I split the truth with Iku. First, US scholarship kids get a break, partially, from foreigners paying full price .. or less than full but not with the aid US kids get - esp at Ivy's near Ivys and little Ivys. That's where I split with Iku. The foreigners go home ... unless the progs hand out green cards without demanding employers show they can't fill jobs. Trump also just likes cheap labor. (sell that to the Aryans)

Iku says US tuition will increase because of this. Possibly true, and it would be measurable. For example, Ford has to know how much a Tauras (hah) bumper costs each year, and where and why prices rose or fell. Ford prices accordingly.

But, the current spat seems to be Trump capitulating to Capital by FLIP FLOPPING

DOL Wage Rule For Immigrants And H-1B Visa Holders Could Be History

A federal rule that might have inflated salaries for foreign-born scientists and engineers would have been more restrictive.

www.forbes.com

of course it is measurable, but you know who will make every fucking excuse to deny it.

 

[mudwhistle]

No, it isn't.

"I do promise," Trump said. "But I happen to agree, otherwise I wouldn't promise... You graduate from a college, I think you should get automatically as part of your diploma a green card to be able to stay in this country and that includes junior colleges too."

Again, you don't seem to grasp the difference between legal and illegal immigration.