Trump Says "Insurance for Everyone."

[Doc1]

I am a Conservative, you are incorrect. I find myself in a strange position. I am repulsed by those who knowingly and willfully take advantage of system....they however cannot be allowed to hurt those that truly need help.

I am not incorrect. Read the posts fully before replying, I clearly said, "I have no problem helping those who truly need help".

Your mistake is in thinking I follow your every post. However, how would you propose to winnow about the abusers?

If you are going to tell me I'm incorrect, then its on you to at least read the posts you are quoting is it not. Yes, I'm correct again. Just assume I'm correct 99.9% of the time as a rule.

Of course, you are an expert.
Tell me, what is the threshold that kicks the premium increase approvals up to the Feds?
What is the level of income where the subsidies kick in?
How much did the insurance companies get back from the risk corridors as opposed to what they were promised?
Hell, can you tell me what a risk corridor is?
You don't know shit about it kid.

It's not that you know so much, it's that much of what you know will be worthless in 4 days....so why gloat? We won.....

Are you sure you're a conservative?

I've been a Conservative longer than you've been alive, unlike you I've learned that compassion is more than just claiming to be a "Shining City On a Hill".

 

[owebo]

I am not incorrect. Read the posts fully before replying, I clearly said, "I have no problem helping those who truly need help".

Your mistake is in thinking I follow your every post. However, how would you propose to winnow about the abusers?

If you are going to tell me I'm incorrect, then its on you to at least read the posts you are quoting is it not. Yes, I'm correct again. Just assume I'm correct 99.9% of the time as a rule.

Of course, you are an expert.
Tell me, what is the threshold that kicks the premium increase approvals up to the Feds?
What is the level of income where the subsidies kick in?
How much did the insurance companies get back from the risk corridors as opposed to what they were promised?
Hell, can you tell me what a risk corridor is?
You don't know shit about it kid.

It's not that you know so much, it's that much of what you know will be worthless in 4 days....so why gloat? We won.....

Are you sure you're a conservative?

I'm not gloating about anything, I am telling you that the Donald (Whom I voted for) is going to be bitch slapped by the truth on the ground.

I'll just let you go...just remember the front line is that way---->democrats

 

[BluesLegend]

Yes, able bodied moochers choose to spend their money on drugs, prostitutes, bling, etc. then mooch off the rest of us via running to the ER and not paying their bills. The solution is NOT to gift them free healthcare paid for by me fuck that.

I am a Conservative, you are incorrect. I find myself in a strange position. I am repulsed by those who knowingly and willfully take advantage of system....they however cannot be allowed to hurt those that truly need help.

I am not incorrect. Read the posts fully before replying, I clearly said, "I have no problem helping those who truly need help".

You say you have no problem helping those that truly need help while in the next breath saying everyone is moochers.

You have trouble with reading comprehension. The number of truly needy people who deserve our help as a wealthy nation, is a small fraction of the number of moochers signed up for Obamacare. I'm not going to pay for their health insurance so they can spend their money on drugs, alcohol, the lotto, casino's, and all the other crap they waste their money on.

Got proof of that? You sure like to make big statements with little support for them.

When you get older and wiser the world will make more sense to you.

 

[owebo]

I am not incorrect. Read the posts fully before replying, I clearly said, "I have no problem helping those who truly need help".

Your mistake is in thinking I follow your every post. However, how would you propose to winnow about the abusers?

If you are going to tell me I'm incorrect, then its on you to at least read the posts you are quoting is it not. Yes, I'm correct again. Just assume I'm correct 99.9% of the time as a rule.

Of course, you are an expert.
Tell me, what is the threshold that kicks the premium increase approvals up to the Feds?
What is the level of income where the subsidies kick in?
How much did the insurance companies get back from the risk corridors as opposed to what they were promised?
Hell, can you tell me what a risk corridor is?
You don't know shit about it kid.

It's not that you know so much, it's that much of what you know will be worthless in 4 days....so why gloat? We won.....

Are you sure you're a conservative?

I've been a Conservative longer than you've been alive, unlike you I've learned that compassion is more than just claiming to be a "Shining City On a Hill".

Doubt that....but kudos.....

 

[Doc1]

Your mistake is in thinking I follow your every post. However, how would you propose to winnow about the abusers?

If you are going to tell me I'm incorrect, then its on you to at least read the posts you are quoting is it not. Yes, I'm correct again. Just assume I'm correct 99.9% of the time as a rule.

Of course, you are an expert.
Tell me, what is the threshold that kicks the premium increase approvals up to the Feds?
What is the level of income where the subsidies kick in?
How much did the insurance companies get back from the risk corridors as opposed to what they were promised?
Hell, can you tell me what a risk corridor is?
You don't know shit about it kid.

It's not that you know so much, it's that much of what you know will be worthless in 4 days....so why gloat? We won.....

Are you sure you're a conservative?

I'm not gloating about anything, I am telling you that the Donald (Whom I voted for) is going to be bitch slapped by the truth on the ground.

I'll just let you go...just remember the front line is that way---->democrats

I am very comfortable in your ignorance.

 

[owebo]

If you are going to tell me I'm incorrect, then its on you to at least read the posts you are quoting is it not. Yes, I'm correct again. Just assume I'm correct 99.9% of the time as a rule.

Of course, you are an expert.
Tell me, what is the threshold that kicks the premium increase approvals up to the Feds?
What is the level of income where the subsidies kick in?
How much did the insurance companies get back from the risk corridors as opposed to what they were promised?
Hell, can you tell me what a risk corridor is?
You don't know shit about it kid.

It's not that you know so much, it's that much of what you know will be worthless in 4 days....so why gloat? We won.....

Are you sure you're a conservative?

I'm not gloating about anything, I am telling you that the Donald (Whom I voted for) is going to be bitch slapped by the truth on the ground.

I'll just let you go...just remember the front line is that way---->democrats

I am very comfortable in your ignorance.

I am very impressed with your ignorance....

 

[Lewdog]

I am a Conservative, you are incorrect. I find myself in a strange position. I am repulsed by those who knowingly and willfully take advantage of system....they however cannot be allowed to hurt those that truly need help.

I am not incorrect. Read the posts fully before replying, I clearly said, "I have no problem helping those who truly need help".

You say you have no problem helping those that truly need help while in the next breath saying everyone is moochers.

You have trouble with reading comprehension. The number of truly needy people who deserve our help as a wealthy nation, is a small fraction of the number of moochers signed up for Obamacare. I'm not going to pay for their health insurance so they can spend their money on drugs, alcohol, the lotto, casino's, and all the other crap they waste their money on.

Got proof of that? You sure like to make big statements with little support for them.

When you get older and wiser the world will make more sense to you.

Again, you can't support your claims. I'm 40 and I've seen both sides of the coin. A good government job, and living in a homeless shelter. I'm college educated... I'm a former Republican. I know what I am talking about, and I know better than to make a huge outlandish statement as the crux of my position without backing it up with facts.

 

[Doc1]

Your mistake is in thinking I follow your every post. However, how would you propose to winnow about the abusers?

If you are going to tell me I'm incorrect, then its on you to at least read the posts you are quoting is it not. Yes, I'm correct again. Just assume I'm correct 99.9% of the time as a rule.

Of course, you are an expert.
Tell me, what is the threshold that kicks the premium increase approvals up to the Feds?
What is the level of income where the subsidies kick in?
How much did the insurance companies get back from the risk corridors as opposed to what they were promised?
Hell, can you tell me what a risk corridor is?
You don't know shit about it kid.

It's not that you know so much, it's that much of what you know will be worthless in 4 days....so why gloat? We won.....

Are you sure you're a conservative?

I've been a Conservative longer than you've been alive, unlike you I've learned that compassion is more than just claiming to be a "Shining City On a Hill".

Doubt that....but kudos.....

Of course you do kid.
But you've been shown to not actually "know" anything.
Like a Liberal you are ruled by two things, your ego and your emotions.You will have to grow up some.

 

[Doc1]

Of course, you are an expert.
Tell me, what is the threshold that kicks the premium increase approvals up to the Feds?
What is the level of income where the subsidies kick in?
How much did the insurance companies get back from the risk corridors as opposed to what they were promised?
Hell, can you tell me what a risk corridor is?
You don't know shit about it kid.

It's not that you know so much, it's that much of what you know will be worthless in 4 days....so why gloat? We won.....

Are you sure you're a conservative?

I'm not gloating about anything, I am telling you that the Donald (Whom I voted for) is going to be bitch slapped by the truth on the ground.

I'll just let you go...just remember the front line is that way---->democrats

I am very comfortable in your ignorance.

I am very impressed with your ignorance....

Of course you are but you can't answer even one of my questions.

 

[initforme]

I kept all my kids on my policy until they were 24. Two more years would have been the proper thing.

 

[charwin95]

Huh? WTF is wrong with you? The lower class can barely afford to pay their fucking rent, how can they pay for health care in this country? Has living in Germany given you a lobotomy?

Most of the middle class can barely afford to pay their mortgage.
They'll just have to save more money instead of spending it on unnecessary things. Instead of tax dollars going to welfare checks, it can help subsidize their healthcare. Don't worry, there will be plenty of jobs when Trump takes over and kicks out all those illegals. Most of the lower class will be able to get two jobs.

Jesus dude. You really are out of your fucking mind. You're just not living on the same planet as the rest of us. What sort of jobs do you think illegals have anyway? Do you think they're performing open heart surgery? Do you think they're constructing elaborate plans for commercial buildings? Do you think they're arguing cases in court rooms? lol, dude...they're cleaning fucking houses, mowing lawns and picking strawberries.

Don't know because democrats hide them....we will find out after they leave....

Another dude living in a different planet.......... out of the topic but I cant help another dude making such ignorant post............ Why would they leave when there NO force deportations? Have you find an illegals performing architecture design or something?

4 days....

And that will be the sad day for Americans.
Deduct 65+ millions that voted from Trump from 225++ millions that didn't. The most unpopular president elect ever with 38% favorable and if he continues his favorite toy tweeting it will sink lower.
God bless America.

 

[BluesLegend]

These fools think Obamacare is actually worth a shit. Obamacare steals money from working people, and gifts it to largely lazy as moochers that's all it does. Many Obamacare policy holders get nothing in return, the annual deductibles are so high they are paying for all their healthcare costs out of pocket, plus the premiums. Meanwhile the moochers pay next to nothing.

If the premiums are so high...and everything is out of pocket... then why not pay the cheaper tax penalty and not have insurance at all?

It won't be cheaper much longer. The problem is in the collection methods....no way to collect unless someone is owed a refund.

Well the funny thing is, those that oppose Obamacare and any health program that helps those that can't afford health insurance... say they can just go to the ER... when you throw it back in their faces that they could just not buy health insurance they can't afford they can use the ER as well... they have no response.

Nobody is saying that but you. When people lie and claim people without insurance are left to die, we call them out on that lie by pointing out that any ER will treat those people.

No... people WILL die. ER's don't do organ transplants nor give free cancer treatments... or do preventative care for blood pressure, heart disease, diabetes, etc. They also don't help pay for meds. So yes, go ahead, prove me wrong.

While you are at it, please provide proof the majority of people that get health insurance under Obamacare are prostitutes and losers buying bling and drugs.

Government already confiscates 50% of every dollar I earn, tax upon tax, fee upon fee, tell me just how much will be enough to fund this utopia of yours? 75%? 85%?

 

[Lewdog]

If the premiums are so high...and everything is out of pocket... then why not pay the cheaper tax penalty and not have insurance at all?

It won't be cheaper much longer. The problem is in the collection methods....no way to collect unless someone is owed a refund.

Well the funny thing is, those that oppose Obamacare and any health program that helps those that can't afford health insurance... say they can just go to the ER... when you throw it back in their faces that they could just not buy health insurance they can't afford they can use the ER as well... they have no response.

Nobody is saying that but you. When people lie and claim people without insurance are left to die, we call them out on that lie by pointing out that any ER will treat those people.

No... people WILL die. ER's don't do organ transplants nor give free cancer treatments... or do preventative care for blood pressure, heart disease, diabetes, etc. They also don't help pay for meds. So yes, go ahead, prove me wrong.

While you are at it, please provide proof the majority of people that get health insurance under Obamacare are prostitutes and losers buying bling and drugs.

Government already confiscates 50% of every dollar I earn, tax upon tax, fee upon fee, tell me just how much will be enough to fund this utopia of yours? 75%? 85%?

Sorry, wrong argument. I'm still waiting to hear your facts about how the majority of people that got health insurance from Obamacare are druggies and prostitutes that use their money to buy drugs and bling.

 

[charwin95]

Huh? WTF is wrong with you? The lower class can barely afford to pay their fucking rent, how can they pay for health care in this country? Has living in Germany given you a lobotomy?

Most of the middle class can barely afford to pay their mortgage.
They'll just have to save more money instead of spending it on unnecessary things. Instead of tax dollars going to welfare checks, it can help subsidize their healthcare. Don't worry, there will be plenty of jobs when Trump takes over and kicks out all those illegals. Most of the lower class will be able to get two jobs.

Jesus dude. You really are out of your fucking mind. You're just not living on the same planet as the rest of us. What sort of jobs do you think illegals have anyway? Do you think they're performing open heart surgery? Do you think they're constructing elaborate plans for commercial buildings? Do you think they're arguing cases in court rooms? lol, dude...they're cleaning fucking houses, mowing lawns and picking strawberries.

Yup, they do low skill work. You know, the stuff people on welfare should be doing themselves. The stuff they would be doing if it weren't for welfare paying them to sit on their asses all day. You act as if those jobs are beneath people doing.

What made you do think that these people on welfare will give that up just to do a dirty work? Just imagine if they have kids ....... they have to pay babysitter just to make less than $10.
You are in the different planet dude.

Simple, end welfare...

Good luck coming with that.

 

[owebo]

Most of the middle class can barely afford to pay their mortgage.
They'll just have to save more money instead of spending it on unnecessary things. Instead of tax dollars going to welfare checks, it can help subsidize their healthcare. Don't worry, there will be plenty of jobs when Trump takes over and kicks out all those illegals. Most of the lower class will be able to get two jobs.

Jesus dude. You really are out of your fucking mind. You're just not living on the same planet as the rest of us. What sort of jobs do you think illegals have anyway? Do you think they're performing open heart surgery? Do you think they're constructing elaborate plans for commercial buildings? Do you think they're arguing cases in court rooms? lol, dude...they're cleaning fucking houses, mowing lawns and picking strawberries.

Don't know because democrats hide them....we will find out after they leave....

Another dude living in a different planet.......... out of the topic but I cant help another dude making such ignorant post............ Why would they leave when there NO force deportations? Have you find an illegals performing architecture design or something?

4 days....

And that will be the sad day for Americans.
Deduct 65+ millions that voted from Trump from 225++ millions that didn't. The most unpopular president elect ever with 38% favorable and if he continues his favorite toy tweeting it will sink lower.
God bless America.

To borrow from your Obama....Elections have consequences...sadness on you

 

[owebo]

I kept all my kids on my policy until they were 24. Two more years would have been the proper thing.

For whom? The insurance companies?

 

[BluesLegend]

It won't be cheaper much longer. The problem is in the collection methods....no way to collect unless someone is owed a refund.

Well the funny thing is, those that oppose Obamacare and any health program that helps those that can't afford health insurance... say they can just go to the ER... when you throw it back in their faces that they could just not buy health insurance they can't afford they can use the ER as well... they have no response.

Nobody is saying that but you. When people lie and claim people without insurance are left to die, we call them out on that lie by pointing out that any ER will treat those people.

No... people WILL die. ER's don't do organ transplants nor give free cancer treatments... or do preventative care for blood pressure, heart disease, diabetes, etc. They also don't help pay for meds. So yes, go ahead, prove me wrong.

While you are at it, please provide proof the majority of people that get health insurance under Obamacare are prostitutes and losers buying bling and drugs.

Government already confiscates 50% of every dollar I earn, tax upon tax, fee upon fee, tell me just how much will be enough to fund this utopia of yours? 75%? 85%?

Sorry, wrong argument. I'm still waiting to hear your facts about how the majority of people that got health insurance from Obamacare are druggies and prostitutes that use their money to buy drugs and bling.

No I'm sure they are hard working citizens who get up and work a job each day...oh wait then they could afford their own health insurance. Well at least they could before Obamacare abolished all the low cost health insurance options so they could force healthy people to pay into Obamacare to fund health insurance for the moochers.

 

[toomuchtime_]

These fools think Obamacare is actually worth a shit. Obamacare steals money from working people, and gifts it to largely lazy as moochers that's all it does. Many Obamacare policy holders get nothing in return, the annual deductibles are so high they are paying for all their healthcare costs out of pocket, plus the premiums. Meanwhile the moochers pay next to nothing.

If the premiums are so high...and everything is out of pocket... then why not pay the cheaper tax penalty and not have insurance at all?

LMAO that's exactly what healthy people are doing, hence the Obamacare pool is filled with moochers and sick people and going broke because there's not enough healthy people paying in to foot the bill.

Then quit complaining about it?

Actually, that's why you should start complaining about it. The costs the insurance companies are experiencing are so much higher than predicted that they are either raising rates beyond what many people will be able to pay or just dropping out of markets altogether.

No it doesn't matter. The Republicans think they can come up with a better system that does the exact same things... and the same people here complaining that their tax dollars go to help moochers are happy with the new system that is going to be put into place... that uses their tax dollars.

It's not a question of using tax dollars but of getting value for those tax dollars. Because of the rising costs of Obamacare, it is not going to be able to do the job for very long. Even Hillary proposed spending more tax dollars to try to shore up the problems with Obamacare, but with insurers' costs rising so rapidly, there would be no end to pumping more and more tax dollars into this plan.

 

[owebo]

If you are going to tell me I'm incorrect, then its on you to at least read the posts you are quoting is it not. Yes, I'm correct again. Just assume I'm correct 99.9% of the time as a rule.

Of course, you are an expert.
Tell me, what is the threshold that kicks the premium increase approvals up to the Feds?
What is the level of income where the subsidies kick in?
How much did the insurance companies get back from the risk corridors as opposed to what they were promised?
Hell, can you tell me what a risk corridor is?
You don't know shit about it kid.

It's not that you know so much, it's that much of what you know will be worthless in 4 days....so why gloat? We won.....

Are you sure you're a conservative?

I've been a Conservative longer than you've been alive, unlike you I've learned that compassion is more than just claiming to be a "Shining City On a Hill".

Doubt that....but kudos.....

Of course you do kid.
But you've been shown to not actually "know" anything.
Like a Liberal you are ruled by two things, your ego and your emotions.You will have to grow up some.

Indeed...good luck...conservative....

 

[Lewdog]

Well the funny thing is, those that oppose Obamacare and any health program that helps those that can't afford health insurance... say they can just go to the ER... when you throw it back in their faces that they could just not buy health insurance they can't afford they can use the ER as well... they have no response.

Nobody is saying that but you. When people lie and claim people without insurance are left to die, we call them out on that lie by pointing out that any ER will treat those people.

No... people WILL die. ER's don't do organ transplants nor give free cancer treatments... or do preventative care for blood pressure, heart disease, diabetes, etc. They also don't help pay for meds. So yes, go ahead, prove me wrong.

While you are at it, please provide proof the majority of people that get health insurance under Obamacare are prostitutes and losers buying bling and drugs.

Government already confiscates 50% of every dollar I earn, tax upon tax, fee upon fee, tell me just how much will be enough to fund this utopia of yours? 75%? 85%?

Sorry, wrong argument. I'm still waiting to hear your facts about how the majority of people that got health insurance from Obamacare are druggies and prostitutes that use their money to buy drugs and bling.

No I'm sure they are hard working citizens who get up and work a job each day...oh wait then they could afford their own health insurance. Well at least they could before Obamacare abolished all the low cost health insurance options so they could force healthy people to pay into Obamacare to fund health insurance for the moochers.

No, a lot of people can't afford their own insurance because many companies will only allow them to work part time so that they do not qualify for insurance through their company thus making the insurance affordable.