Trump to declare national emergency

[candycorn]

So is there a bidding process for the billions that were looted from the treasury or will there just be a no bid contract?

When does construction begin?

Just as soon as they get done with that high-speed train in California.

Be patient.

About the same time Mexico sends the check?

 

[U2Edge]

the libs have already said they simply won't deal.

it's stupid on both parts and everyone loses.

The Democrats were for the wall until President Trump got elected. The Democrats said on the day after Trump won the Republican Primary that they were going to get rid of him and they did a 180 on the wall and said how bad it would be. They used the wall as a weapon and today, they went all-out over Trump's resisting their little 180 and all the lies it took them to get there, all just to get rid of him, slime him, and try to turn even his supporters against him by false charges and a special counsel to commit a beat up on him they hoped would get rid of him for good. Trump didn't take the bait. He's declaring a national emergency to alleviate the schools of more responsibilities of beleaguered teachers to accommodate children needing an education, and sometimes a home since parents sent children with friends who suddenly disappeared, leaving the children behind for America to feed, house, clothe and educate these poor dumped children.

The apoplectic left blamed every detail on President Trump after they withdrew their enthusiasm for a wall before Trump took office, and they saw the perfect weapon, with the poison point of immigrant parentless childrens' plight as if Trump was all to blame for the criminal acts of Mexican citizens who wanted to upgrade their children and get rid of the responsibility, the very same attitude taken by the Mexican government for escorting so many of the earlier immigrants to the wall who were serial criminals, unattached people who needed support of the most expensive kind--education, incarceration, hospitalization, and the like. Not a one of us wasn't touched to know these broken people needed help, but we were wise enough to take a peek at how they got to the border--fronts for drug smugglers; easy targets for dishonest coyotes, votes for the Democrats, you name it.

Maxine Waters, Democrat Congressman, told her constituents to beat up on President Trump's staff by screaming inanities, harassing, and intimidating in public members of the Executive branch. She belongs in prison for failure to uphold the United States Constitution and separation of powers.

And now the Democrat congresscritters are making a lot of noise about getting another of the powers--the judiciary, to be exact, to postpone and delay the Executive Branch by every means possible to obstruct the justice for United States Citizen taxpayers not having to foot the bill so the Democrats can foist all their lies upon the heads of these poor, beleaguered and needy people (and many not needy) to gain illegal votes for themselves that their precinct chairmen will swear are valid votes, all under the secret cloak of power omerta workings.

Americans are getting sick of paying a high price--several trillion dollars a year for this cheap trick to get free votes for Democrats by hustling illegals over here. They're creating problems that will never be able to be solved. Is that what they want to justify taking people's life savings, inheritances of family businesses and farms away from them to give to whoever they decide fluffs them enough.

The Democrats want total and complete power; they want to ruin us financially with lawsuits their unpopular welching demands, and then blame everything on whoever tries to fix this unfortunate problem foisted on us by a society to the south that will not deal with their people in a way that employs them.

If the democrats want "total power" why is it that Trump is the one demanding something most Americans don't want?

With all due respect sir, I believe you have "most Americans" confused with groupthink Democrats whose numbers are shrinking as President Trump hits several more homeruns than usual:

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And yet Dems just gained control of house.

If you are foolish enough to think the American people are going to tolerate the new people elected including Congressman jew-hater Omar and Congressman stick-it-up-the-ass-of-those-who-earned-their-wealth-the-hard-way-with-70%-taxes-on-the-dollar A. Ocasio/Cortez, you may see how fragile and how VERY fragile that gain is come next election.

By January 20, 2021, the Democrats will control the Presidency, House and Senate.

 

[Intolerant]

All I seen we’re a bunch of commie bastard traitors.

 

[beautress]

This is a win for the Libs.

Trump has proven he cannot broker a deal and now has to admit he lost the battle with them.

Declaring a national emergency is a waving the white flag


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TRUMP has exposed the democrats and rinos selling out the safety of US citizens for protections for illegal immigrants. All people need do is look at the latest bill to see that any funding coming from congress for the wall will have to many anti-US strings. TRUMP declaring a national emergency in order to fund the wall is putting America First.

Its not a national emergency. But watch out, the Democrats may use the same tactic once they win the Presidency to declare a national emergency on "GUN CONTROL", or "CLIMATE CHANGE". Of course a Democratic President is likely to have congress with them unlike Trump so that probably would not be needed.

Immigration to the United States across the southern border is at a low point compared to decades ago. There is no emergency. A wall won't block 90% of the drugs and people that come into this country from Latin America.

U2, that "tactic" has been in place since 1977. Do you think your colleagues in the DNC are going to tell anyone that small and minor detail? Of course, they wouldn't tell you, the voter that!!!! They can fool even smart people like you.

 

[beautress]

The Democrats were for the wall until President Trump got elected. The Democrats said on the day after Trump won the Republican Primary that they were going to get rid of him and they did a 180 on the wall and said how bad it would be. They used the wall as a weapon and today, they went all-out over Trump's resisting their little 180 and all the lies it took them to get there, all just to get rid of him, slime him, and try to turn even his supporters against him by false charges and a special counsel to commit a beat up on him they hoped would get rid of him for good. Trump didn't take the bait. He's declaring a national emergency to alleviate the schools of more responsibilities of beleaguered teachers to accommodate children needing an education, and sometimes a home since parents sent children with friends who suddenly disappeared, leaving the children behind for America to feed, house, clothe and educate these poor dumped children.

The apoplectic left blamed every detail on President Trump after they withdrew their enthusiasm for a wall before Trump took office, and they saw the perfect weapon, with the poison point of immigrant parentless childrens' plight as if Trump was all to blame for the criminal acts of Mexican citizens who wanted to upgrade their children and get rid of the responsibility, the very same attitude taken by the Mexican government for escorting so many of the earlier immigrants to the wall who were serial criminals, unattached people who needed support of the most expensive kind--education, incarceration, hospitalization, and the like. Not a one of us wasn't touched to know these broken people needed help, but we were wise enough to take a peek at how they got to the border--fronts for drug smugglers; easy targets for dishonest coyotes, votes for the Democrats, you name it.

Maxine Waters, Democrat Congressman, told her constituents to beat up on President Trump's staff by screaming inanities, harassing, and intimidating in public members of the Executive branch. She belongs in prison for failure to uphold the United States Constitution and separation of powers.

And now the Democrat congresscritters are making a lot of noise about getting another of the powers--the judiciary, to be exact, to postpone and delay the Executive Branch by every means possible to obstruct the justice for United States Citizen taxpayers not having to foot the bill so the Democrats can foist all their lies upon the heads of these poor, beleaguered and needy people (and many not needy) to gain illegal votes for themselves that their precinct chairmen will swear are valid votes, all under the secret cloak of power omerta workings.

Americans are getting sick of paying a high price--several trillion dollars a year for this cheap trick to get free votes for Democrats by hustling illegals over here. They're creating problems that will never be able to be solved. Is that what they want to justify taking people's life savings, inheritances of family businesses and farms away from them to give to whoever they decide fluffs them enough.

The Democrats want total and complete power; they want to ruin us financially with lawsuits their unpopular welching demands, and then blame everything on whoever tries to fix this unfortunate problem foisted on us by a society to the south that will not deal with their people in a way that employs them.

If the democrats want "total power" why is it that Trump is the one demanding something most Americans don't want?

With all due respect sir, I believe you have "most Americans" confused with groupthink Democrats whose numbers are shrinking as President Trump hits several more homeruns than usual:

​

And yet Dems just gained control of house.

If you are foolish enough to think the American people are going to tolerate the new people elected including Congressman jew-hater Omar and Congressman stick-it-up-the-ass-of-those-who-earned-their-wealth-the-hard-way-with-70%-taxes-on-the-dollar A. Ocasio/Cortez, you may see how fragile and how VERY fragile that gain is come next election.

By January 20, 2021, the Democrats will control the Presidency, House and Senate.

Sez the spider to the fly...

 

[JGalt]

The Democrats were for the wall until President Trump got elected. The Democrats said on the day after Trump won the Republican Primary that they were going to get rid of him and they did a 180 on the wall and said how bad it would be. They used the wall as a weapon and today, they went all-out over Trump's resisting their little 180 and all the lies it took them to get there, all just to get rid of him, slime him, and try to turn even his supporters against him by false charges and a special counsel to commit a beat up on him they hoped would get rid of him for good. Trump didn't take the bait. He's declaring a national emergency to alleviate the schools of more responsibilities of beleaguered teachers to accommodate children needing an education, and sometimes a home since parents sent children with friends who suddenly disappeared, leaving the children behind for America to feed, house, clothe and educate these poor dumped children.

The apoplectic left blamed every detail on President Trump after they withdrew their enthusiasm for a wall before Trump took office, and they saw the perfect weapon, with the poison point of immigrant parentless childrens' plight as if Trump was all to blame for the criminal acts of Mexican citizens who wanted to upgrade their children and get rid of the responsibility, the very same attitude taken by the Mexican government for escorting so many of the earlier immigrants to the wall who were serial criminals, unattached people who needed support of the most expensive kind--education, incarceration, hospitalization, and the like. Not a one of us wasn't touched to know these broken people needed help, but we were wise enough to take a peek at how they got to the border--fronts for drug smugglers; easy targets for dishonest coyotes, votes for the Democrats, you name it.

Maxine Waters, Democrat Congressman, told her constituents to beat up on President Trump's staff by screaming inanities, harassing, and intimidating in public members of the Executive branch. She belongs in prison for failure to uphold the United States Constitution and separation of powers.

And now the Democrat congresscritters are making a lot of noise about getting another of the powers--the judiciary, to be exact, to postpone and delay the Executive Branch by every means possible to obstruct the justice for United States Citizen taxpayers not having to foot the bill so the Democrats can foist all their lies upon the heads of these poor, beleaguered and needy people (and many not needy) to gain illegal votes for themselves that their precinct chairmen will swear are valid votes, all under the secret cloak of power omerta workings.

Americans are getting sick of paying a high price--several trillion dollars a year for this cheap trick to get free votes for Democrats by hustling illegals over here. They're creating problems that will never be able to be solved. Is that what they want to justify taking people's life savings, inheritances of family businesses and farms away from them to give to whoever they decide fluffs them enough.

The Democrats want total and complete power; they want to ruin us financially with lawsuits their unpopular welching demands, and then blame everything on whoever tries to fix this unfortunate problem foisted on us by a society to the south that will not deal with their people in a way that employs them.

If the democrats want "total power" why is it that Trump is the one demanding something most Americans don't want?

With all due respect sir, I believe you have "most Americans" confused with groupthink Democrats whose numbers are shrinking as President Trump hits several more homeruns than usual:

​

And yet Dems just gained control of house.

If you are foolish enough to think the American people are going to tolerate the new people elected including Congressman jew-hater Omar and Congressman stick-it-up-the-ass-of-those-who-earned-their-wealth-the-hard-way-with-70%-taxes-on-the-dollar A. Ocasio/Cortez, you may see how fragile and how VERY fragile that gain is come next election.

By January 20, 2021, the Democrats will control the Presidency, House and Senate.

 

[Chuz Life]

I can imagine this going to court, I don't see why it wasn't a national emergency in 2017 or 2018.

The Supreme Court may have to decide on it, although they may not want to hear for various reasons (although I'm not not sure if the chances of that are that high).

I think the 57 pounds of fentanyl (enough to kill tens of millions) is enough reason all by itself for any rational court to agree that an open border is a crisis.

 

[badger2]

It's a national emergency. The math: two milligrams is fatal to an elementary school student. Trump says China has declared fentanyl a fatal drug. 2017 U.S. seized 33 pounds of fentanyl.

13 Feb 2019 17 Pounds Fentanyl
Suspected Fentanyl Confiscated by Yuma Sector Border Patrol | U.S. Customs and Border Protection

 

[Preacher]

LMAO try me. Death doesn't scare me. What's their left worth living for if the government controls EVERYTHING? Nothing. On top of that I find it HILARIOUS you think American Soldiers will fire on or try and confiscate American's guns. More than likely they would turn on the government.

You sure have a sad existence.

Nope. I have a purpose in life,make lots of white babies,fight for my people's future and damn I hope that includes destroying the cultural marxist government of the United States at some point in time. Men in pajamas with ak 47's defeated the mighty US military 300 million Americans with all kinds of weapons can EASILY do the same thing.

You need to grow up...

Oh I am completely grown. Bring it on please. I am tired of waiting..damn I kind of wish we had a leftist president soon so they can try and ban guns with a national emergency....

You obviously are not. Are you one of those Russians? I hate to think any American would be so stupid.

Yep that's me komrade! An EVILLLL Russki agent.

 

[bendog]

I thought Trump would avoid getting killed again over shutting down the gummit for his politically unpopular wall. And then just tell the Trumpbots he'd "move money around." Which would quietly die a slow legal death.

But instead he's upped the ante with the bogus emergency. win or lose, it energizes his opposition. Sweet. I guess. I mean there's no compromise possible until he's gone, so the more bullshit absurdity, the better.

 

[beautress]

I can imagine this going to court, I don't see why it wasn't a national emergency in 2017 or 2018.

The Supreme Court may have to decide on it, although they may not want to hear for various reasons (although I'm not not sure if the chances of that are that high).

I think the 57 pounds of fentanyl (enough to kill tens of millions) is enough reason all by itself for any rational court to agree that an open border is a crisis.

I looked up how many people would be killed by fenatyl. You're on the mark.

Enough Fentanyl to Kill 32 Million People Seized in NYC Bust "
Authorities confiscated nearly 195 pounds of fentanyl in a pair of busts that prosecutors said included one sting that netted 32 million lethal doses of the drug, an opioid 50 times stronger than heroin.

Four people were arrested after the busts in August and September that also netted 75 pounds of heroin and cocaine. Bridget G. Brennan, New York City's special narcotics prosecutor, said the busts come as overdose deaths hit an all-time high in New York's five boroughs in 2016."

Thanks for bringing that up. President Trump asked the President in China about looking into Fenatyl, he reported today in his speech. The response was that the President of China may likely make Fenatyl so illegal in China it will carry a death sentence for selling that lethal stuff. I'm glad. I'm minus a nephew on account of taking that heinous stuff a couple of years ago and breaking my sister's heart.

 

[beautress]

I thought Trump would avoid getting killed again over shutting down the gummit for his politically unpopular wall. And then just tell the Trumpbots he'd "move money around." Which would quietly die a slow legal death.

But instead he's upped the ante with the bogus emergency. win or lose, it energizes his opposition. Sweet. I guess. I mean there's no compromise possible until he's gone, so the more bullshit absurdity, the better.

Oh? Is the galpal committee in the DNC Pelosi-led Congress going to shut down the government again because the President has exercised his legal right to do what presidents have been doing since 1977?

Trump isn't shutting anything down.

 

[MisterBeale]

Libs are going to be beside themselves !

President Donald Trump will sign the border-security agreement that heads off a government shutdown but declare a national emergency at the same time to build his proposed wall, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Thursday. The agreement contains less money than Trump wanted but heads off another government shutdown after midnight Friday. McConnell did not give any more details of the emergency declaration while speaking on the Senate floor.

Trump will sign border bill and declare national emergency: McConnell

Trump will sign border bill and declare national emergency: McConnell
Published: Feb 14, 2019 3:10 p.m. ET

If Gramm Rudman was unconst (and the Scotus said it was) I don't see how the national emergency law survives .... unless the scotus wants to play theoretical diddlylwinks by saying "congress can change it"

And McConnell will be all for amending the law to prevent misuse to just try and force spending congress won't allocate ... as soon as a dem is potus.

If the president can in anyway present proof that terrorists are coming across. . . he will win. If it is a national emergency with regards to terrorism? The emergency already exists, thus, he can do what ever he wants;

NSPD-51: National Continuity Policy
Federal Register :: Continuation of the National Emergency With Respect to Certain Terrorist Attacks
Notice -- Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to Certain Terrorist Attacks
Federal Register :: Continuation of the National Emergency With Respect to Certain Terrorist Attacks

And so can a Dem president ,declare a national emergency and take all republican guns away

If they can prove all Americans are terrorists to themselves?

Sure.

 

[BWK]

California to sue Trump over border wall emergency declaration

Everyone will because it's unconstitutional.

No it's not!

I posted the Constitutional amendment. What is your counter argument?

 

[Maxdeath]

What, like Obama ignoring and re-writing immigration law because he can't get immigration reform passed in congress? Illegals from foreign countries are killing and raping thousands of Americans. The POTUS has a responsibility to put a stop to that. You traitors side with the illegals, thank Christ we have president Trump on our side.

Anyone who thinks that is the definition of DACA is dumb. Sorry, but dumb.

You just don't like me rubbing your nose in the facts. Tip of the iceberg, that prick Obama encouraged illegals to flood into our country particularly underage illegals. And we haven't even discussed the horrors of Obama's detention facilities, how underage illegals were recruited/forced into prostitution and drug trafficking before they even got out of Obama's holding areas.

Oh my loving God, "the horrors of Obama's detention facilities?" You think Obama had something to do with that? We still detain underage illegals that enter the country alone. Do you think none of that is going on now? Some folks come here with a business plan. But according to border patrol, it is a very small number.
You people are ridiculous.

Let me see if I have the level of crazy that you are displaying right. 44 was so clueless that under his administration things happened like illegals being detained, the CIA spying on congress, the NSA spying on citizens, his Secretary of State and others knew Bengazi was not started by a video but did not tell him and numerous other things BUT all other presidents MUST be on game and held responsible for everything that goes on in their administration.

I heard plenty of people bitching about those things. What else did you want to happen to "hold him responsible?"

I see you were not even able to understand my post. It was strictly about you holding him free of responsibility while holding other administrations accountable. It had nothing to do with plenty of people as you put it.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I can imagine this going to court, I don't see why it wasn't a national emergency in 2017 or 2018.

The Supreme Court may have to decide on it, although they may not want to hear for various reasons (although I'm not not sure if the chances of that are that high).

I think the 57 pounds of fentanyl (enough to kill tens of millions) is enough reason all by itself for any rational court to agree that an open border is a crisis.

Oh, I agree. But building the"Wall" doesn't address that since those amounts are found coming in by boats, planes, through border crossings, etc.. That means that we are in more need to strengthen those areas than build more elaborate walls. It's not to say we can't do both but the real emergency is the legal inlets, not the places where a small percentage of the illegal immigrants come into the US.

 

[BWK]

So let me get this right.....trumptards are cheering that Trump declared a national emergency for a wall that he claimed Mexico would pay for to get 17 billion LESS than what Congress offered him less than a few months ago?

Wow, that's a real deal maker!!

And when that didn't work, he claimed NAFTA and Tariffs would pay for it. He lied about that too. He also said today that he didn't have to do it. What? So it isn't a national emergency then, right? This loon is a total dumb ass, and his retarded base eat every crumb of the stupidity. So, so, dumb! They will probably challenge him in court on " I didn't have to do it." Lol!

 

[BWK]

In 1976 with the drafting of the update of the National Emergency statute in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal and Nixon's attempt to absorb extraordinary Presidential powers, new termination laws were codified to allow Congress to reclaim their Article 1 powers assumed by the president ceded by Congress.

50 USC § 1622 contains those specifics which include termination of a Presidential declaration of a National Emergency through a nullification process if both Chambers concur with a SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE in both houses. If one Chamber votes to terminate, the other house is required to vote, and NO FILIBUSTER for the Senate.

The Speaker of the House will likely prepare the Joint Resolution soonest, and McConnell has no damn choice but to hold a vote in the Senate per the requirements of the Statute. If the Resolution gets to the Senate, it likely will have enough GOP Senators crossing the line easily. If McConnell gets smart of a sudden, he'll turn his caucus loose to vote on their own.

~~ 50 U.S. Code § 1622 - National emergencies ~~

Senator Collins already came out yesterday saying it was a mistake. She won't be the only one. Everyone who disagrees with the national emergency declaration are warning about equal hijinx by the Democrats, once one is Pres again.

They'll declare gun violence a national emergency. They'll declare climate change a national emergency, which it is. They'll declare a barrier to be a NE, and tear it down.

I would HOPE that the Democrats would not repeat the un-Constitutional works that Trump is taking us through right now, but with their recent track record, they probably would, just for shits and giggles.
So yeah, this thing needs to be nipped in the bud so that neither party tries it again for quite some time. Trump has already convinced his supporters that the newspapers are all lying so when the Mueller decision comes down it will be conveniently ignored. Now he's literally giving the Constitution the middle finger and trying to take what he wants, without permission. This is becoming serious enough to start thinking the dictator foolishness might be right. He is an old man who always ran his own company the way he wanted. He knows no other way to be.

He has a phone and a pen. Obama cancer in bureaus is only about 40% extracted at this point.

The phone and the pen does not trump the Constitution dumb ass.

 

[rightwinger]

A Dem president can pull the same shit with climate change,,gun control or anything else that upsets the Republicans

PLEASE try it with guns I want a civil war so bad!

We agree,, I do too and I have no bag limits

Awesome! You bring your dildo I will bring all of our rifles and handguns...my uncle can supply the 50 cal sniper rifle and literal cannon he has.

Another bad sss gun nut who will pee his pants if he confronts armed troops

LMAO try me. Death doesn't scare me. What's their left worth living for if the government controls EVERYTHING? Nothing. On top of that I find it HILARIOUS you think American Soldiers will fire on or try and confiscate American's guns. More than likely they would turn on the government.

Internet tough guy

If you play from my cold dead fingers, soldiers are going to kill your ass

Your choice

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I can imagine this going to court, I don't see why it wasn't a national emergency in 2017 or 2018.

The Supreme Court may have to decide on it, although they may not want to hear for various reasons (although I'm not not sure if the chances of that are that high).

I think the 57 pounds of fentanyl (enough to kill tens of millions) is enough reason all by itself for any rational court to agree that an open border is a crisis.

I looked up how many people would be killed by fenatyl. You're on the mark.

Enough Fentanyl to Kill 32 Million People Seized in NYC Bust "
Authorities confiscated nearly 195 pounds of fentanyl in a pair of busts that prosecutors said included one sting that netted 32 million lethal doses of the drug, an opioid 50 times stronger than heroin.

Four people were arrested after the busts in August and September that also netted 75 pounds of heroin and cocaine. Bridget G. Brennan, New York City's special narcotics prosecutor, said the busts come as overdose deaths hit an all-time high in New York's five boroughs in 2016."

Thanks for bringing that up. President Trump asked the President in China about looking into Fenatyl, he reported today in his speech. The response was that the President of China may likely make Fenatyl so illegal in China it will carry a death sentence for selling that lethal stuff. I'm glad. I'm minus a nephew on account of taking that heinous stuff a couple of years ago and breaking my sister's heart.

You don't understand China very well. They will make it a death sentence to provide it to their own citizens. But for export, that's another story. There has been many cases of a chinese drug company putting out drugs for export that the Chinese has forbidden them to sell to the Chinese where the drugs have been downright poisonous. When a country like the US finds out about it (the FDA) then the company is shut down only to resurface under a different name somewhere else in china. China won't go after them because the Chinese Government makes big bucks off that company and there are no Chinese deaths inside China.