Trump wins again on Border wall

[lennypartiv]

Ah...so maintaining horrific and brutal conditions for incarcerated kids at border is a “win” for children.
I don’t know what universe you occupy.

It's not supposed to be a win for them. It's supposed to deter others like them from invading America.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So why doesn’t Trump use that money to improve humanitarian conditions at the border?

I guess for the same reason we don't have bars, casinos, and strip clubs in our prisons: it will only make it more inviting for others to come in.

The reason our border is flooded and creating this humanitarian crisis is because the Democrats put out the welcome mat. Leftist organizations sent their lawyers over the border to instruct people how to cheat the system, and Congress being Democrat led promising those people eventual acceptance into our country if they break our laws. In fact it was not until recent weeks when Democrats abandoned the claim that there was no crisis, and finally admitted there was.

The tides have turned. Not only will we have a wall, but because of Trump's genius strategy to hold Mexico accountable for those that travel through their country to get here, we are greatly reducing those coming here in the first place. Add to that, Trump changed the criteria to apply for asylum (which most know they don't apply) to not do so at our border, but instead, at a US embassy in their own country. Plus you do not qualify for asylum if you crossed Mexico go get here and refused their asylum offer.

Prior to all this, parents would send their teen daughters on this dangerous journey to the US with a pocket full of birth control pills for "when" they get raped multiple times. This is not to mention all the people who have died or been killed along the way.

Trump is putting a stop to that because these people know the fate of their children are better off in their hands instead of coyotes and drug lords to guide them along the way.

So this is not only a win for Trump, but a win for those innocent children as well.

Ah...so maintaining horrific and brutal conditions for incarcerated kids at border is a “win” for children.

I don’t know what universe you occupy.

No, I said just don't make it inviting. I also wrote how it's more sensible to really close down our border so those kids don't have to suffer the journey in the first place.

 

[WheelieAddict]

U.S. Supreme Court lets Trump use disputed funds for border wall

The supreme Court ruled Trump CAN use money he diverted from other sources to build the wall. He wins again and the dems lose.

Build that wall and keep out the riff raff.

I thought Mexico was paying for it? Once again a republican lie about their big spending.

 

[Coyote]

So why doesn’t Trump use that money to improve humanitarian conditions at the border?

See Darkwinds post below...

That is Congresses job. They have only to pass a bill giving the Border patrol more money for beds, larger facilities, and toiletries.

Why don't they?

President Trump did propose new beds etc, but Democrats blocked it. I guess Democrats hate Hispanics.

How did the Democrats block it?

By voting against it. How do you think ?

They REFUSED to do anything to give him the money in the House, which of course you already know and are just playing games cause you think it wins points, Further when they finally approved money for more beds what happened? The left protested and started a campaign to keep suppliers from providing those beds. Which you also know.

How Wayfair CEO Niraj Shah, a Self-Made Billionaire and Son of Immigrants, Got Caught Up in the Border Crisis

Again. Trump has money. It could be put to improving border conditions. He refuses to do it.

 

[Coyote]

So why doesn’t Trump use that money to improve humanitarian conditions at the border?

I guess for the same reason we don't have bars, casinos, and strip clubs in our prisons: it will only make it more inviting for others to come in.

The reason our border is flooded and creating this humanitarian crisis is because the Democrats put out the welcome mat. Leftist organizations sent their lawyers over the border to instruct people how to cheat the system, and Congress being Democrat led promising those people eventual acceptance into our country if they break our laws. In fact it was not until recent weeks when Democrats abandoned the claim that there was no crisis, and finally admitted there was.

The tides have turned. Not only will we have a wall, but because of Trump's genius strategy to hold Mexico accountable for those that travel through their country to get here, we are greatly reducing those coming here in the first place. Add to that, Trump changed the criteria to apply for asylum (which most know they don't apply) to not do so at our border, but instead, at a US embassy in their own country. Plus you do not qualify for asylum if you crossed Mexico go get here and refused their asylum offer.

Prior to all this, parents would send their teen daughters on this dangerous journey to the US with a pocket full of birth control pills for "when" they get raped multiple times. This is not to mention all the people who have died or been killed along the way.

Trump is putting a stop to that because these people know the fate of their children are better off in their hands instead of coyotes and drug lords to guide them along the way.

So this is not only a win for Trump, but a win for those innocent children as well.

Ah...so maintaining horrific and brutal conditions for incarcerated kids at border is a “win” for children.

I don’t know what universe you occupy.

No, I said just don't make it inviting. I also wrote how it's more sensible to really close down our border so those kids don't have to suffer the journey in the first place.

It isn’t going to stop them.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So why doesn’t Trump use that money to improve humanitarian conditions at the border?

I guess for the same reason we don't have bars, casinos, and strip clubs in our prisons: it will only make it more inviting for others to come in.

The reason our border is flooded and creating this humanitarian crisis is because the Democrats put out the welcome mat. Leftist organizations sent their lawyers over the border to instruct people how to cheat the system, and Congress being Democrat led promising those people eventual acceptance into our country if they break our laws. In fact it was not until recent weeks when Democrats abandoned the claim that there was no crisis, and finally admitted there was.

The tides have turned. Not only will we have a wall, but because of Trump's genius strategy to hold Mexico accountable for those that travel through their country to get here, we are greatly reducing those coming here in the first place. Add to that, Trump changed the criteria to apply for asylum (which most know they don't apply) to not do so at our border, but instead, at a US embassy in their own country. Plus you do not qualify for asylum if you crossed Mexico go get here and refused their asylum offer.

Prior to all this, parents would send their teen daughters on this dangerous journey to the US with a pocket full of birth control pills for "when" they get raped multiple times. This is not to mention all the people who have died or been killed along the way.

Trump is putting a stop to that because these people know the fate of their children are better off in their hands instead of coyotes and drug lords to guide them along the way.

So this is not only a win for Trump, but a win for those innocent children as well.

Why should Mexico be accountable?

Is THERE problem? Or Guatamala’s?

Who’s problem is it?

It eventually becomes our problem. That's what Trump is trying to stop. Don't you think that if we allowed thousands of Mexicans to travel through the US to get to Canada, we shouldn't be held accountable to some degree?

 

[Coyote]

Build that wall and keep out the riff raff.

He better build it now. Or all of his white supremacist supporters like you are going to continue throwing your temper tantrums about it. We certainly can't have that.

Isn’t a whiter America a safer more productive America?
Why does that suck?
Do you have statistics we haven't yet seen?
You realize that all your beloved human pets wanted to come to America because it was run by and inhabited by whites....right?
These are those scary facts you hate to face...huh?

Oh brother.

 

[Thinker101]

So why doesn’t Trump use that money to improve humanitarian conditions at the border?

I guess for the same reason we don't have bars, casinos, and strip clubs in our prisons: it will only make it more inviting for others to come in.

The reason our border is flooded and creating this humanitarian crisis is because the Democrats put out the welcome mat. Leftist organizations sent their lawyers over the border to instruct people how to cheat the system, and Congress being Democrat led promising those people eventual acceptance into our country if they break our laws. In fact it was not until recent weeks when Democrats abandoned the claim that there was no crisis, and finally admitted there was.

The tides have turned. Not only will we have a wall, but because of Trump's genius strategy to hold Mexico accountable for those that travel through their country to get here, we are greatly reducing those coming here in the first place. Add to that, Trump changed the criteria to apply for asylum (which most know they don't apply) to not do so at our border, but instead, at a US embassy in their own country. Plus you do not qualify for asylum if you crossed Mexico go get here and refused their asylum offer.

Prior to all this, parents would send their teen daughters on this dangerous journey to the US with a pocket full of birth control pills for "when" they get raped multiple times. This is not to mention all the people who have died or been killed along the way.

Trump is putting a stop to that because these people know the fate of their children are better off in their hands instead of coyotes and drug lords to guide them along the way.

So this is not only a win for Trump, but a win for those innocent children as well.

Why should Mexico be accountable?

Is THERE problem? Or Guatamala’s?

Who’s problem is it?

Is THERE problem? ….Where?

 

[lennypartiv]

I thought Mexico was paying for it? Once again a republican lie about their big spending.

Trump is working on a way to get Mexico to pay for the wall.

<<Trump floats 20% tax on Mexican imports to pay for wall, but considering other options>>
https://www.cnn.com/profiles/jeremy-diamond
Trump floats 20% tax on Mexican imports to pay for wall - CNNPolitics

 

[Thinker101]

Build that wall and keep out the riff raff.

He better build it now. Or all of his white supremacist supporters like you are going to continue throwing your temper tantrums about it. We certainly can't have that.

Isn’t a whiter America a safer more productive America?
Why does that suck?
Do you have statistics we haven't yet seen?
You realize that all your beloved human pets wanted to come to America because it was run by and inhabited by whites....right?
These are those scary facts you hate to face...huh?

Oh brother.

Ah, ah, ah, if you were in Berkeley "brother" would not be allowed.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So why doesn’t Trump use that money to improve humanitarian conditions at the border?

I guess for the same reason we don't have bars, casinos, and strip clubs in our prisons: it will only make it more inviting for others to come in.

The reason our border is flooded and creating this humanitarian crisis is because the Democrats put out the welcome mat. Leftist organizations sent their lawyers over the border to instruct people how to cheat the system, and Congress being Democrat led promising those people eventual acceptance into our country if they break our laws. In fact it was not until recent weeks when Democrats abandoned the claim that there was no crisis, and finally admitted there was.

The tides have turned. Not only will we have a wall, but because of Trump's genius strategy to hold Mexico accountable for those that travel through their country to get here, we are greatly reducing those coming here in the first place. Add to that, Trump changed the criteria to apply for asylum (which most know they don't apply) to not do so at our border, but instead, at a US embassy in their own country. Plus you do not qualify for asylum if you crossed Mexico go get here and refused their asylum offer.

Prior to all this, parents would send their teen daughters on this dangerous journey to the US with a pocket full of birth control pills for "when" they get raped multiple times. This is not to mention all the people who have died or been killed along the way.

Trump is putting a stop to that because these people know the fate of their children are better off in their hands instead of coyotes and drug lords to guide them along the way.

So this is not only a win for Trump, but a win for those innocent children as well.

Ah...so maintaining horrific and brutal conditions for incarcerated kids at border is a “win” for children.

I don’t know what universe you occupy.

No, I said just don't make it inviting. I also wrote how it's more sensible to really close down our border so those kids don't have to suffer the journey in the first place.

It isn’t going to stop them.

It's already working greatly. Plus once the Democrats are tired out from trying to destroy these solutions, word will get around to South America that the journey is a foolish one and not worth the time.

You know it's going to work, and by work, I mean greatly decrease the number of fake asylum claimers and border jumpers.

 

[Coyote]

So why doesn’t Trump use that money to improve humanitarian conditions at the border?

I guess for the same reason we don't have bars, casinos, and strip clubs in our prisons: it will only make it more inviting for others to come in.

The reason our border is flooded and creating this humanitarian crisis is because the Democrats put out the welcome mat. Leftist organizations sent their lawyers over the border to instruct people how to cheat the system, and Congress being Democrat led promising those people eventual acceptance into our country if they break our laws. In fact it was not until recent weeks when Democrats abandoned the claim that there was no crisis, and finally admitted there was.

The tides have turned. Not only will we have a wall, but because of Trump's genius strategy to hold Mexico accountable for those that travel through their country to get here, we are greatly reducing those coming here in the first place. Add to that, Trump changed the criteria to apply for asylum (which most know they don't apply) to not do so at our border, but instead, at a US embassy in their own country. Plus you do not qualify for asylum if you crossed Mexico go get here and refused their asylum offer.

Prior to all this, parents would send their teen daughters on this dangerous journey to the US with a pocket full of birth control pills for "when" they get raped multiple times. This is not to mention all the people who have died or been killed along the way.

Trump is putting a stop to that because these people know the fate of their children are better off in their hands instead of coyotes and drug lords to guide them along the way.

So this is not only a win for Trump, but a win for those innocent children as well.

Why should Mexico be accountable?

Is THERE problem? Or Guatamala’s?

Who’s problem is it?

It eventually becomes our problem. That's what Trump is trying to stop. Don't you think that if we allowed thousands of Mexicans to travel through the US to get to Canada, we shouldn't be held accountable to some degree?

It IS our problem. It is a multinational problem of such magnitude no one nation is alone accountable. Unlike Guatemala, an incredibly impoverished nation, where the majority of children show malnutrition...we are better equip to handle.

It is an issue that requires a multinational cooperative effort.

 

[WheelieAddict]

I thought Mexico was paying for it? Once again a republican lie about their big spending.

Trump is working on a way to get Mexico to pay for the wall.

<<Trump floats 20% tax on Mexican imports to pay for wall, but considering other options>>
Trump floats 20% tax on Mexican imports to pay for wall - CNNPolitics

Sure bud, we have been hearing this bs for years now. Get back to me when bullshitter trump actually does something he claims.

 

[Coyote]

So why doesn’t Trump use that money to improve humanitarian conditions at the border?

I guess for the same reason we don't have bars, casinos, and strip clubs in our prisons: it will only make it more inviting for others to come in.

The reason our border is flooded and creating this humanitarian crisis is because the Democrats put out the welcome mat. Leftist organizations sent their lawyers over the border to instruct people how to cheat the system, and Congress being Democrat led promising those people eventual acceptance into our country if they break our laws. In fact it was not until recent weeks when Democrats abandoned the claim that there was no crisis, and finally admitted there was.

The tides have turned. Not only will we have a wall, but because of Trump's genius strategy to hold Mexico accountable for those that travel through their country to get here, we are greatly reducing those coming here in the first place. Add to that, Trump changed the criteria to apply for asylum (which most know they don't apply) to not do so at our border, but instead, at a US embassy in their own country. Plus you do not qualify for asylum if you crossed Mexico go get here and refused their asylum offer.

Prior to all this, parents would send their teen daughters on this dangerous journey to the US with a pocket full of birth control pills for "when" they get raped multiple times. This is not to mention all the people who have died or been killed along the way.

Trump is putting a stop to that because these people know the fate of their children are better off in their hands instead of coyotes and drug lords to guide them along the way.

So this is not only a win for Trump, but a win for those innocent children as well.

Ah...so maintaining horrific and brutal conditions for incarcerated kids at border is a “win” for children.

I don’t know what universe you occupy.

No, I said just don't make it inviting. I also wrote how it's more sensible to really close down our border so those kids don't have to suffer the journey in the first place.

It isn’t going to stop them.

It's already working greatly. Plus once the Democrats are tired out from trying to destroy these solutions, word will get around to South America that the journey is a foolish one and not worth the time.

You know it's going to work, and by work, I mean greatly decrease the number of fake asylum claimers and border jumpers.

The horrific treatment of people and kids in border control facilities is not what I consider working greatly.

Unlike Republicans I do not consider child abuse to be a viable solution.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So why doesn’t Trump use that money to improve humanitarian conditions at the border?

I guess for the same reason we don't have bars, casinos, and strip clubs in our prisons: it will only make it more inviting for others to come in.

The reason our border is flooded and creating this humanitarian crisis is because the Democrats put out the welcome mat. Leftist organizations sent their lawyers over the border to instruct people how to cheat the system, and Congress being Democrat led promising those people eventual acceptance into our country if they break our laws. In fact it was not until recent weeks when Democrats abandoned the claim that there was no crisis, and finally admitted there was.

The tides have turned. Not only will we have a wall, but because of Trump's genius strategy to hold Mexico accountable for those that travel through their country to get here, we are greatly reducing those coming here in the first place. Add to that, Trump changed the criteria to apply for asylum (which most know they don't apply) to not do so at our border, but instead, at a US embassy in their own country. Plus you do not qualify for asylum if you crossed Mexico go get here and refused their asylum offer.

Prior to all this, parents would send their teen daughters on this dangerous journey to the US with a pocket full of birth control pills for "when" they get raped multiple times. This is not to mention all the people who have died or been killed along the way.

Trump is putting a stop to that because these people know the fate of their children are better off in their hands instead of coyotes and drug lords to guide them along the way.

So this is not only a win for Trump, but a win for those innocent children as well.

Why should Mexico be accountable?

Is THERE problem? Or Guatamala’s?

Who’s problem is it?

It eventually becomes our problem. That's what Trump is trying to stop. Don't you think that if we allowed thousands of Mexicans to travel through the US to get to Canada, we shouldn't be held accountable to some degree?

It IS our problem. It is a multinational problem of such magnitude no one nation is alone accountable. Unlike Guatemala, an incredibly impoverished nation, where the majority of children show malnutrition...we are better equip to handle.

It is an issue that requires a multinational cooperative effort.

And we provide that help through government aid. But we can't allow anybody that is impoverished to get into our country, because with enough of them, our country will eventually be like theirs.

21 trillion dollars in debt and growing, and you say we are better equip to handle the problems of every other country around the world? WTF is going to help us????

 

[skews13]

I'm newer here but I'm wondering why so many post so many threads on the exact same topic. There is already a thread on this that was just a few posts down.

The Dunning-Krueger effect.

 

[Terri4Trump]

It IS our problem. It is a multinational problem of such magnitude no one nation is alone accountable. Unlike Guatemala, an incredibly impoverished nation, where the majority of children show malnutrition...we are better equip to handle. It is an issue that requires a multinational cooperative effort.

Bull FUCKING SHIT!! Other people in other countries are NOT our problem and I don't pay my taxes to help other nations. MY taxes are for MY military, my roads, my schools, my neighbors and my AMERICAN people. If you want to write a check and give it to people in other countries then do it and shut the fuck up. But don't tell me that people with problems in other countries are our problem. They are the problem of their OWN government.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I guess for the same reason we don't have bars, casinos, and strip clubs in our prisons: it will only make it more inviting for others to come in.

The reason our border is flooded and creating this humanitarian crisis is because the Democrats put out the welcome mat. Leftist organizations sent their lawyers over the border to instruct people how to cheat the system, and Congress being Democrat led promising those people eventual acceptance into our country if they break our laws. In fact it was not until recent weeks when Democrats abandoned the claim that there was no crisis, and finally admitted there was.

The tides have turned. Not only will we have a wall, but because of Trump's genius strategy to hold Mexico accountable for those that travel through their country to get here, we are greatly reducing those coming here in the first place. Add to that, Trump changed the criteria to apply for asylum (which most know they don't apply) to not do so at our border, but instead, at a US embassy in their own country. Plus you do not qualify for asylum if you crossed Mexico go get here and refused their asylum offer.

Prior to all this, parents would send their teen daughters on this dangerous journey to the US with a pocket full of birth control pills for "when" they get raped multiple times. This is not to mention all the people who have died or been killed along the way.

Trump is putting a stop to that because these people know the fate of their children are better off in their hands instead of coyotes and drug lords to guide them along the way.

So this is not only a win for Trump, but a win for those innocent children as well.

Ah...so maintaining horrific and brutal conditions for incarcerated kids at border is a “win” for children.

I don’t know what universe you occupy.

No, I said just don't make it inviting. I also wrote how it's more sensible to really close down our border so those kids don't have to suffer the journey in the first place.

It isn’t going to stop them.

It's already working greatly. Plus once the Democrats are tired out from trying to destroy these solutions, word will get around to South America that the journey is a foolish one and not worth the time.

You know it's going to work, and by work, I mean greatly decrease the number of fake asylum claimers and border jumpers.

The horrific treatment of people and kids in border control facilities is not what I consider working greatly.

Unlike Republicans I do not consider child abuse to be a viable solution.

But when people drag kids across the border who have been badly beaten, raped, and God knows what else, that's not child abuse?

Our detention facilities are only so big. We can only spend so many billions of dollars to help these people. When is it going to become obvious we can't help everybody?

 

[lennypartiv]

Geez, these people at the border don't even speak English, they're not going to be able to contribute to our economy.

 

[danielpalos]

Ah...so maintaining horrific and brutal conditions for incarcerated kids at border is a “win” for children.
I don’t know what universe you occupy.

It's not supposed to be a win for them. It's supposed to deter others like them from invading America.

abolish our exorbitantly expensive drug war to stop creating refugees.