Trump's morality, from a Christian perspective

[LoneLaugher]

I'll issue a challenge:

I dare any liberals or conservatives to apply moral standards to members of their own side. I DARE YOU.

If you are unwilling to do that, then it means morality is only important to you when it involves someone you dislike politically.

Trump is an asshole. I will flat out say that right here and now. His persona could use a ton of work.

But I am not judging his persona. I am not judging him personally. I am judging him based on his work as president.

That may look like I don't care about his morality to some people here, but that is not the case.

Lets say I drive an ugly car. As long as it gets me from point A to point B, am I concerned about the looks? No. I am concerned about the performance.

Some of you attack his morals because you can't attack his politics directly. You can't touch his achievements.

When someone you don't like is doing good things for your fellow man, you attack their morality. You attack them directly.

There is no need to be so spiteful.

Will you call in to our podcast on Friday evening so I can respond to that challenge with a civil back and forth?

 

[TemplarKormac]

If Trumpsters are going to be tolerant and forgiving of Trump's "morality", great.

Let's just see them apply the same degree of tolerance and forgiveness to the morality of others, those with whom they disagree politically. I'd think morality is more important than partisan politics, right?

It you're honestly willing to use Trump as a yardstick, if you're going to judge morality, you're willing to maintain a pretty freaking large morality tent.
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Trump is considered moral, gays are an abomination

Dare I say it, but in your party, Christians are amoral and an abomination.

I came out just a few days ago. But don't let that stop you from trying to apply that flawed argument to me.

 

[Brain357]

Al Franken gets run out of the senate for a few old photos. Repubs elect a guy cheating on his third wife with a pornstar who says he likes to grab women by the pussy...

Al Franken did a lot more than that. He put his own party in such a position that they had no choice but to disown him.

All you have left is partisan rhetoric.

He did what then? Funny how dems get rid of him for so little and repubs elect a guy with much worse.

Actually, Franken was accused of sexual harrassment. But let's not quibble over your lack of concern over that fact.

Yes he took some pictures long ago and dems dumped him. He should become a repub.

You have nothing left but childish retorts.

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Um Trump is irredeemable because he chooses not to be.

What does that even mean, Billy?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Al Franken did a lot more than that. He put his own party in such a position that they had no choice but to disown him.

All you have left is partisan rhetoric.

He did what then? Funny how dems get rid of him for so little and repubs elect a guy with much worse.

Actually, Franken was accused of sexual harrassment. But let's not quibble over your lack of concern over that fact.

Yes he took some pictures long ago and dems dumped him. He should become a repub.

You have nothing left but childish retorts.

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

Please, wipe the spittle from your lips you unhinged zealot.

It's astonishing to me you won't apply any moral standards to people of your own party, but are easily willing to do it for people you oppose politically.

 

[Brain357]

Did Jesus teach us to be selfish? All trumps policies are selfish...

Just because the policies he enacts don't directly benefit you does not mean they are selfish.

America first? Build the wall? You think these policies would be approved by Jesus? Seriously?

Yeah?

Show me a verse in the Bible that condemns his policies and I will show you one that supports it.

Wanna go, hotshot?

It’s loaded with them. Selfishness is not good.

 

[Brain357]

He did what then? Funny how dems get rid of him for so little and repubs elect a guy with much worse.

Actually, Franken was accused of sexual harrassment. But let's not quibble over your lack of concern over that fact.

Yes he took some pictures long ago and dems dumped him. He should become a repub.

You have nothing left but childish retorts.

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

Please, wipe the spittle from your lips you unhinged zealot.

It's astonishing to me you won't apply any moral standards to people of your on party, but are easily willing to do it for people you oppose politically.

Franken got booted, that’s your moral standard. Trump got elected. No morals for repubs.

 

[LoneLaugher]

If Trumpsters are going to be tolerant and forgiving of Trump's "morality", great.

Let's just see them apply the same degree of tolerance and forgiveness to the morality of others, those with whom they disagree politically. I'd think morality is more important than partisan politics, right?

It you're honestly willing to use Trump as a yardstick, if you're going to judge morality, you're willing to maintain a pretty freaking large morality tent.
.

Trump is considered moral, gays are an abomination

Dare I say it, but in your party, Christians are amoral and an abomination.

I came out just a few days ago. But don't let that stop you from trying to apply that flawed argument to me.

You what?

You came out?

Now THAT is interesting.

What was your name before it was TK? I gotta spend some time in the archives.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Hmm, I recall the story of the adulterous woman in the Bible that was set to be stoned. Jesus forgave her.

He directed his attention to the men with stones in their hands, ready to hurl them at this woman.

"He who is without sin, cast the first stone." He said.

All of the men knowing they had been cornered, dropped their stones and departed.

Jesus turned to the adulterous woman and said "Go and sin no more".

If Jesus can forgive adultery, so can we.

 

[Brain357]

More trump morals

Trump Foundation: Saga of troubled charity ends in $2 million judgment

 

[TemplarKormac]

Actually, Franken was accused of sexual harrassment. But let's not quibble over your lack of concern over that fact.

Yes he took some pictures long ago and dems dumped him. He should become a repub.

You have nothing left but childish retorts.

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

Please, wipe the spittle from your lips you unhinged zealot.

It's astonishing to me you won't apply any moral standards to people of your on party, but are easily willing to do it for people you oppose politically.

Franken got booted, that’s your moral standard. Trump got elected. No morals for repubs.

Hmm there is no more point in trying to get through to you.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Voters’ Partisan Responses to Politicians’ Immoral Behavior

 

[Brain357]

Yes he took some pictures long ago and dems dumped him. He should become a repub.

You have nothing left but childish retorts.

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

Please, wipe the spittle from your lips you unhinged zealot.

It's astonishing to me you won't apply any moral standards to people of your on party, but are easily willing to do it for people you oppose politically.

Franken got booted, that’s your moral standard. Trump got elected. No morals for repubs.

Hmm there is no more point in trying to get through to you.

Well there is no defense for you. Dems show stronger morals.

 

[airplanemechanic]

You have nothing left but childish retorts.

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

Please, wipe the spittle from your lips you unhinged zealot.

It's astonishing to me you won't apply any moral standards to people of your on party, but are easily willing to do it for people you oppose politically.

Franken got booted, that’s your moral standard. Trump got elected. No morals for repubs.

Hmm there is no more point in trying to get through to you.

Well there is no defense for you. Dems show stronger morals.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Trombies miss the point in Trump's adultery.

The problem isn't that he succumbed to desire. That's a very common occurrence among men ( and women ) the world over and for as long as history has been recorded.

The problem is that this fucker looks you in the eye and tells you that he has never been unfaithful and that all of those who have accused him of being a sexual harrasser are lying to you.

You believe him. Or, you are OK with a sinner who does not repent.

Which is it?

 

[TemplarKormac]

You have nothing left but childish retorts.

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

Please, wipe the spittle from your lips you unhinged zealot.

It's astonishing to me you won't apply any moral standards to people of your on party, but are easily willing to do it for people you oppose politically.

Franken got booted, that’s your moral standard. Trump got elected. No morals for repubs.

Hmm there is no more point in trying to get through to you.

Well there is no defense for you. Dems show stronger morals.

Show me.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You believe him. Or, you are OK with a sinner who does not repent.

Repentance is no good when it falls on deaf ears, such as yours.

Repentance is pointless when one is unwilling to forgive.

 

[Brain357]

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

Please, wipe the spittle from your lips you unhinged zealot.

It's astonishing to me you won't apply any moral standards to people of your on party, but are easily willing to do it for people you oppose politically.

Franken got booted, that’s your moral standard. Trump got elected. No morals for repubs.

Hmm there is no more point in trying to get through to you.

Well there is no defense for you. Dems show stronger morals.

Show me.

I just did. Franken is gone. Repubs elected trump who is guilty of worse. You lose.

 

[Billy000]

Um Trump is irredeemable because he chooses not to be.

What does that even mean, Billy?

It’s pretty straight forward. If he feels no guilt and has no desire to change his behavior, he definitely can’t be redeemed. I mean shit TK you’re a Christian right? Someone who murders someone else can still get into heaven if they condemn their prior behavior and accept Christ as their savior, right? This isn’t to say Trump murdered someone - I’m just giving an example of how sinning is actually forgiven. Trump feels no remorse for any of his sins suffice to say.

 

[Andylusion]

Al Franken did a lot more than that. He put his own party in such a position that they had no choice but to disown him.

All you have left is partisan rhetoric.

He did what then? Funny how dems get rid of him for so little and repubs elect a guy with much worse.

Actually, Franken was accused of sexual harrassment. But let's not quibble over your lack of concern over that fact.

Yes he took some pictures long ago and dems dumped him. He should become a repub.

You have nothing left but childish retorts.

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

But he hasn't done worse than Franken. Franken literally sexually assaulted a women. He put his hand behind her head, and forced his tongue into her mouth.

Trump has not done that. Not even close.