U.S. Police Chiefs Call For Background Checks For All Gun Purchases

[BluesLegend]

80,000 felons and fugitives prevented from buying a gun every year, thanks to background checks.

It is pretty hard to defend being opposed to that.

Get back to us when you have implemented background checks for buying alcohol, it kills and injures way more people each year. Got a DUI on your record sorry DENIED!!

If you get a DUI, you aren't allowed a driver's license.

So you lose. Again.

Get a DUI and your banned for life from purchasing alcohol. For that matter banned for life from owning a vehicle. That goes for private sales and parties too, if you invite a friend over to your home and serve him alcohol and he's on the banned list you go to jail so you better run a background check on your party guests. Buy someone a drink at a bar, oh man you are taking a big legal risk.

Every gun control law you can come up with should be equally applied to the sale and use of alcohol. I mean if your goal is really to save lives.

The claims you make about alcohol consumption are lies.Where did you hear such stupid crap?.

You fail at reading comprehension go back to school.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The police chiefs and their supporters are correct. Background checks need to be complete, thorough and encompass all the US, in addition no one should be exempt -include gun show sales and sales and transfers between individuals. This will cost money, this will make some people mad but so be it if this is what it takes to get a handle on gun purchases, registrations and licensing.
As far as your comment about "NRA Gun-nutters" you are wrong. The membership supports efficient and effective registration with the intent of keeping weapons out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them. If there is any wrongness being done here it is YOU and the Congress for not seeing what is right and having the 'moral courage' to act without grandstanding.

So you demand literacy tests for ALL elections?

 

[BluesLegend]

80,000 felons and fugitives prevented from buying a gun every year, thanks to background checks.

It is pretty hard to defend being opposed to that.

Get back to us when you have implemented background checks for buying alcohol, it kills and injures way more people each year. Got a DUI on your record sorry DENIED!!

If you get a DUI, you aren't allowed a driver's license.

So you lose. Again.

Get a DUI and your banned for life from purchasing alcohol. For that matter banned for life from owning a vehicle. That goes for private sales and parties too, if you invite a friend over to your home and serve him alcohol and he's on the banned list you go to jail so you better run a background check on your party guests. Buy someone a drink at a bar, oh man you are taking a big legal risk.

Every gun control law you can come up with should be equally applied to the sale and use of alcohol. I mean if your goal is really to save lives.

This is the best you can do to oppose background checks that prevent 80,000 felons and fugitives and other maniacs from buying a gun every year?

You realize you are off the rails now, right?

I'm pointing out the dishonesty and hypocrisy in the gun control's arguments. Since they are untrustworthy liars then can just forget about getting an ounce of cooperation from us. They made their bed they can lay in it.

 

[g5000]

You know the topic has hit rock bottom when UC shows up.

 

[LOki]

80,000 felons and fugitives prevented from buying a gun every year, thanks to background checks.

It is pretty hard to defend being opposed to that.

Get back to us when you have implemented background checks for buying alcohol, it kills and injures way more people each year. Got a DUI on your record sorry DENIED!!

If you get a DUI, you aren't allowed a driver's license.

So you lose. Again.

Get a DUI and your banned for life from purchasing alcohol. For that matter banned for life from owning a vehicle. That goes for private sales and parties too, if you invite a friend over to your home and serve him alcohol and he's on the banned list you go to jail so you better run a background check on your party guests. Buy someone a drink at a bar, oh man you are taking a big legal risk.

Every gun control law you can come up with should be equally applied to the sale and use of alcohol. I mean if your goal is really to save lives.

This is the best you can do to oppose background checks that prevent 80,000 felons and fugitives and other maniacs from buying a gun every year?

You realize you are off the rails now, right?

Background checks have prevented maybe a dozen or so felons and fugitives and other maniacs from buying a gun every year.

 

[BULLDOG]

80,000 felons and fugitives prevented from buying a gun every year, thanks to background checks.

It is pretty hard to defend being opposed to that.

Get back to us when you have implemented background checks for buying alcohol, it kills and injures way more people each year. Got a DUI on your record sorry DENIED!!

If you get a DUI, you aren't allowed a driver's license.

So you lose. Again.

Get a DUI and your banned for life from purchasing alcohol. For that matter banned for life from owning a vehicle. That goes for private sales and parties too, if you invite a friend over to your home and serve him alcohol and he's on the banned list you go to jail so you better run a background check on your party guests. Buy someone a drink at a bar, oh man you are taking a big legal risk.

Every gun control law you can come up with should be equally applied to the sale and use of alcohol. I mean if your goal is really to save lives.

The claims you make about alcohol consumption are lies.Where did you hear such stupid crap?.

You fail at reading comprehension go back to school.

A DUI automatically bans you for life from purchasing alcohol or owning a vehicle? Please tell me where this banned list is.

 

[g5000]

I'm pointing out the dishonesty and hypocrisy in the gun control's arguments.

There is nothing dishonest in the fact that 80,000 felons and fugitives and the like are prevented from buying guns every year.

It is pretty hard to defend being opposed to that, as you have been demonstrating.

 

[g5000]

Get back to us when you have implemented background checks for buying alcohol, it kills and injures way more people each year. Got a DUI on your record sorry DENIED!!

If you get a DUI, you aren't allowed a driver's license.

So you lose. Again.

Get a DUI and your banned for life from purchasing alcohol. For that matter banned for life from owning a vehicle. That goes for private sales and parties too, if you invite a friend over to your home and serve him alcohol and he's on the banned list you go to jail so you better run a background check on your party guests. Buy someone a drink at a bar, oh man you are taking a big legal risk.

Every gun control law you can come up with should be equally applied to the sale and use of alcohol. I mean if your goal is really to save lives.

The claims you make about alcohol consumption are lies.Where did you hear such stupid crap?.

You fail at reading comprehension go back to school.

A DUI automatically bans you for life from purchasing alcohol or owning a vehicle? Please tell me where this banned list is.

He's saying it should be quid pro quo. If we ban felons from buying guns, then we should ban DUI convicts from buying alcohol.

He's literally trying to say we should let felons and fugitives and the like buy guns.

He's off the rails.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm sure that is very convincing to a gun nut, but normal people just see it as stupid.

Are normal people willing to talk to you? Anti-liberty whack jobs are rarely popular at parties.

 

[BluesLegend]

Get back to us when you have implemented background checks for buying alcohol, it kills and injures way more people each year. Got a DUI on your record sorry DENIED!!

If you get a DUI, you aren't allowed a driver's license.

So you lose. Again.

Get a DUI and your banned for life from purchasing alcohol. For that matter banned for life from owning a vehicle. That goes for private sales and parties too, if you invite a friend over to your home and serve him alcohol and he's on the banned list you go to jail so you better run a background check on your party guests. Buy someone a drink at a bar, oh man you are taking a big legal risk.

Every gun control law you can come up with should be equally applied to the sale and use of alcohol. I mean if your goal is really to save lives.

The claims you make about alcohol consumption are lies.Where did you hear such stupid crap?.

You fail at reading comprehension go back to school.

A DUI automatically bans you for life from purchasing alcohol or owning a vehicle? Please tell me where this banned list is.

Didn't we just minutes ago discuss your lack of reading comprehension? Just stop you are embarrassing yourself.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You know the topic has hit rock bottom when UC shows up.

Off on you anti-civil rights rants again, Jake?

 

[LOki]

It's sadly funny when gun nutters try to act smarter than nationwide police officials. If gun nutters simply allowed "universal background checks" - this debate could end. What's the problem?

The problem….Weimar Germany, Post World War 1 France, Britain, Australia….and any time there has been a genocide, mass murder or ethnic cleansing…they first registered the guns to keep people safe….and then the murder started….

Who is talking about "registering" guns? Who is talking about "gun-grabbing"?

UBC is necessarily the universal registering of guns and their owners.

The only purpose for universal registering of guns and their owners is universal confiscation of registered gun from their registered owners.

 

[LOki]

This is a no-brainer, this is the simplest thing in the world."

CHICAGO, Oct 26 (Reuters) - Police chiefs from across the United States called on Monday for universal background checks for firearms purchases, saying opinion polls consistently show that most Americans support such restrictions.

The proliferation of firearms is one of the factors behind a rise in homicide rates in many U.S. cities this year, according to senior law enforcement officials at the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference in Chicago.

Acknowledging the power of the gun lobby and the reluctance of Congress to enact stricter gun laws, the police chiefs told a news conference they were not anti-gun but wanted to keep weapons out of the hands of people with criminal backgrounds.

Current rules on background checks apply to licensed dealers, but up to 40 percent of firearms sales involve private parties or gun shows and do not require checks, the chiefs said.

"This is a no-brainer, this is the simplest thing in the world," Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said. "It troubles me all the time."

Backing the effort is an alliance of organizations representing police chiefs and executives, such as the Major Cities Chiefs Association and groups representing women, Hispanic and African-American law enforcement executives and police chiefs, as well as campus law enforcement administrators.

McCarthy said he was passionate about the issue after four years on the job in Chicago, which has more shootings and killings than other big cities like New York and Los Angeles and where police seize illegal guns at a much higher rate.

The police leaders called for expansion of background checks to cover all gun purchases and for a stronger background check system to ensure all agencies share the same records including criminal and mental health backgrounds.

More: U.S. Police Chiefs Call For Background Checks For All Gun Purchases

So, the question becomes: Who knows best - the NRA gun nutters or U.S. police chiefs? I'm guessing that "the Major Cities Chiefs Association and groups representing women, Hispanic and African-American law enforcement executives and police chiefs, as well as campus law enforcement administrators" know best.

Even the NRA chief Wayne commited his support for universal background checks. Until he didn't.

Its a no brainer. No one, right or left, wants criminals getting guns. Background checks help prevent this.

Demonstrate. This is repeated ad-nauseam, but is never demonstrated.

Be the first to do so.

 

[BluesLegend]

I'm pointing out the dishonesty and hypocrisy in the gun control's arguments.

There is nothing dishonest in the fact that 80,000 felons and fugitives and the like are prevented from buying guns every year.

It is pretty hard to defend being opposed to that, as you have been demonstrating.

Yes you have been trolling that line for 100 posts now, ignoring each and every time we have stated why we refuse to give even 1 inch to gun control advocates. You keep asking, we keep telling you, it hasn't penetrated your skull.

 

[LOki]

From the OP:

The police leaders called for expansion of background checks to cover all gun purchases and for a stronger background check system to ensure all agencies share the same records including criminal and mental health backgrounds.

What's wrong with that?

Background checks are burdensome, and do not prevent criminals from obtaining guns.

 

[LOki]

This is a no-brainer, this is the simplest thing in the world."

CHICAGO, Oct 26 (Reuters) - Police chiefs from across the United States called on Monday for universal background checks for firearms purchases, saying opinion polls consistently show that most Americans support such restrictions.

The proliferation of firearms is one of the factors behind a rise in homicide rates in many U.S. cities this year, according to senior law enforcement officials at the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference in Chicago.

Acknowledging the power of the gun lobby and the reluctance of Congress to enact stricter gun laws, the police chiefs told a news conference they were not anti-gun but wanted to keep weapons out of the hands of people with criminal backgrounds.

Current rules on background checks apply to licensed dealers, but up to 40 percent of firearms sales involve private parties or gun shows and do not require checks, the chiefs said.

"This is a no-brainer, this is the simplest thing in the world," Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said. "It troubles me all the time."

Backing the effort is an alliance of organizations representing police chiefs and executives, such as the Major Cities Chiefs Association and groups representing women, Hispanic and African-American law enforcement executives and police chiefs, as well as campus law enforcement administrators.

McCarthy said he was passionate about the issue after four years on the job in Chicago, which has more shootings and killings than other big cities like New York and Los Angeles and where police seize illegal guns at a much higher rate.

The police leaders called for expansion of background checks to cover all gun purchases and for a stronger background check system to ensure all agencies share the same records including criminal and mental health backgrounds.

More: U.S. Police Chiefs Call For Background Checks For All Gun Purchases

So, the question becomes: Who knows best - the NRA gun nutters or U.S. police chiefs? I'm guessing that "the Major Cities Chiefs Association and groups representing women, Hispanic and African-American law enforcement executives and police chiefs, as well as campus law enforcement administrators" know best.

Even the NRA chief Wayne commited his support for universal background checks. Until he didn't.

Its a no brainer. No one, right or left, wants criminals getting guns. Background checks help prevent this.

Again, it's because we don't trust them to stop there.

"Again, it's because we don't trust them to stop there."

So, you think the never-give-an-inch approach is the best way to protect our gun rights? That mentality is precisely what will hurt our future gun rights.

 

[BULLDOG]

80,000 felons and fugitives prevented from buying a gun every year, thanks to background checks.

It is pretty hard to defend being opposed to that.

Get back to us when you have implemented background checks for buying alcohol, it kills and injures way more people each year. Got a DUI on your record sorry DENIED!!

If you get a DUI, you aren't allowed a driver's license.

So you lose. Again.

Get a DUI and your banned for life from purchasing alcohol. For that matter banned for life from owning a vehicle. That goes for private sales and parties too, if you invite a friend over to your home and serve him alcohol and he's on the banned list you go to jail so you better run a background check on your party guests. Buy someone a drink at a bar, oh man you are taking a big legal risk.

Every gun control law you can come up with should be equally applied to the sale and use of alcohol. I mean if your goal is really to save lives.

The claims you make about alcohol consumption are lies.Where did you hear such stupid crap?.

You fail at reading comprehension go back to school.

Perhaps I did come in the middle of the conversation, but considering the crazy stuff right wingers regularly spout, it's easy to understand the mistake.

 

[LOki]

This is a no-brainer, this is the simplest thing in the world."

CHICAGO, Oct 26 (Reuters) - Police chiefs from across the United States called on Monday for universal background checks for firearms purchases, saying opinion polls consistently show that most Americans support such restrictions.

The proliferation of firearms is one of the factors behind a rise in homicide rates in many U.S. cities this year, according to senior law enforcement officials at the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference in Chicago.

Acknowledging the power of the gun lobby and the reluctance of Congress to enact stricter gun laws, the police chiefs told a news conference they were not anti-gun but wanted to keep weapons out of the hands of people with criminal backgrounds.

Current rules on background checks apply to licensed dealers, but up to 40 percent of firearms sales involve private parties or gun shows and do not require checks, the chiefs said.

"This is a no-brainer, this is the simplest thing in the world," Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said. "It troubles me all the time."

Backing the effort is an alliance of organizations representing police chiefs and executives, such as the Major Cities Chiefs Association and groups representing women, Hispanic and African-American law enforcement executives and police chiefs, as well as campus law enforcement administrators.

McCarthy said he was passionate about the issue after four years on the job in Chicago, which has more shootings and killings than other big cities like New York and Los Angeles and where police seize illegal guns at a much higher rate.

The police leaders called for expansion of background checks to cover all gun purchases and for a stronger background check system to ensure all agencies share the same records including criminal and mental health backgrounds.

More: U.S. Police Chiefs Call For Background Checks For All Gun Purchases

So, the question becomes: Who knows best - the NRA gun nutters or U.S. police chiefs? I'm guessing that "the Major Cities Chiefs Association and groups representing women, Hispanic and African-American law enforcement executives and police chiefs, as well as campus law enforcement administrators" know best.

Even the NRA chief Wayne commited his support for universal background checks. Until he didn't.

Its a no brainer. No one, right or left, wants criminals getting guns. Background checks help prevent this.

Again, it's because we don't trust them to stop there.

"Again, it's because we don't trust them to stop there."

So, you think the never-give-an-inch approach is the best way to protect our gun rights? .

Tyrants don't give a shit about rights. They have always decided what rights , if any, WE THE PEOPLE will have.

Let the motherfuckers attempt to confiscate



And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure.


Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, Paris, 13 Nov. 1787[2]

"Let the motherfuckers attempt to confiscate"

Sadly, retarded gun nutters like you may eventually make that a reality. I cherish my gun rights - and I want to help protect them by embracing reasonable gun control measures and also help make society a little safer.

 

[BULLDOG]

It's sadly funny when gun nutters try to act smarter than nationwide police officials. If gun nutters simply allowed "universal background checks" - this debate could end. What's the problem?

The problem….Weimar Germany, Post World War 1 France, Britain, Australia….and any time there has been a genocide, mass murder or ethnic cleansing…they first registered the guns to keep people safe….and then the murder started….

Who is talking about "registering" guns? Who is talking about "gun-grabbing"?

UBC is necessarily the universal registering of guns and their owners.

The only purpose for universal registering of guns and their owners is universal confiscation of registered gun from their registered owners.

Believe what you want, but you have already lost just as you lost in your efforts to stop gay marriage. Universal background checks will be in effect soon.

 

[The Rabbi]

I'm pointing out the dishonesty and hypocrisy in the gun control's arguments.

There is nothing dishonest in the fact that 80,000 felons and fugitives and the like are prevented from buying guns every year.

It is pretty hard to defend being opposed to that, as you have been demonstrating.

Except they're not It is dishonest to maintain that is the case. A denial is not preventig anyone from buying a gun. It is merely preventing that particular transaction.
And most of the people being denied are probably OK people anyway. I had a few customers who had committed some crime in their 20s and now in their 60s and 40 years of law abiding behavior.