U.S. Republicans see a clash of civilizations. French president says no

[Coyote]

Seriously how many more times do we have to have this radical Islam vs Islam debate? Ever since the 9-11 attacks Republicans have made clear we are at war with radical Islam and Muslim extremist not Islam or Muslims who just want to practice their religion and live their lives.

Tell that to the folks in Dearborn Michigan.

Who are doing exactly that - inspite of your demonization.

 

[TNHarley]

The islamic faith does NOT permit the American way of life. And it shows NO wish to do so. Its a violation of their faith to do so.

Hundreds of thousands of Muslim-Americans disagree with you, and I think it's a pretty safe bet that they're better informed about the Islamic faith than you are.

So you say
Western muslims pick and choose what to believe.

Kind of like Christians. Imagine that!

Is that supposed to be some sort of "gotcha"? Lol

 

[Shrimpbox]

The islamic faith does NOT permit the American way of life. And it shows NO wish to do so. Its a violation of their faith to do so.

Neither does Christianity. Thankfully we've managed to regulate the shit out of it.

You're fucking crazy... America was founded on Judaeo-Christian principals... you know, the reliance on the providence of God... religion and morality are the basis of freedom.

You should thanks us.... oh, we don't regulate Christianity, we can't... anymore than we can regulate any religion.

Where do you nutters come up with this retarded shit?

America has a magical idea that was created upon its founding. In its founding documents, our forefathers made certain to include language that would prevent religion from interfering with people's freedoms and from religious tyranny. And so they gifted us the separation between church and state. And we have prospered.

Sadly, foreign meddling has left the middle east under the control of their version of bible thumpers and gun nuts.

So much tripe from the uneducated.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Republicans are certainly slavoring to find a way to use this tragedy to their political advantage. Even Bush was very clear - this isn't a war against Islam, but against extremism and terrorism.


U.S. Republicans see a clash of civilizations. French president says no.

...Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.), a Republican presidential hopeful, created the most stir when appearing Sunday on ABC's "This Week." Reacting to Hillary Clinton's statement that she didn't believe the United States was at war with Islam, Rubio suggested, "That would be like saying we weren’t at war with Nazis, because we were afraid to offend some Germans who may have been members of the Nazi Party but weren’t violent themselves."

Rubio continued: "This is a clash of civilizations.... There is no middle ground on this. Either they win or we win. And we need to begin to take this seriously. These are individuals motivated by their faith."

This apocalyptic line — that we're locked in a live-or-die civilizational struggle — is a popular theme in the Republican debates, where an array of candidates grandstand on the cultural nature of the threat as a way to highlight the supposed weakness and political correctness of their Democratic opponents.

But French President François Hollande, whose nation's capital was the scene of carnage last week, does not agree with this talking point.

On Monday, he addressed the French Parliament, declaring, "France is at war." But he specifically rejected the rhetoric espoused by politicians such as Rubio and, closer to home, the far-right leader Marine Le Pen.

"We are not committed to a war of civilizations, because these assassins don't represent any civilization," Hollande said. "We are in a war against terrorism, jihadism, which threatens the whole world."

Then he's an idiot as the muslims will tell you the opposite

 

[TNHarley]

this is from an article at the site.

a snippet:
Also, it’s not like we’ve shut our doors until now; we have already been offering asylum and have taken in over two thousand refugees so far. One might expect that these would tend toward the Assyrian Christians who have been victimized by the genocides perpetrated by ISIS, but they account for fewer than 3% of those granted asylum in the US, according to CNS News:

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of “other religion,” 7 of “no religion,” and 3 atheists.

By comparison, Syria’s population breakdown in early 2011, before the civil war’s death toll and refugee exodus roiled the demographics, was 90 percent Muslim (including Sunnis, Shia, Alawites and Druze) and 10 percent Christian, according to the CIA World Factbook.

This has some wondering why we’re not focusing more on those fleeing obvious religious oppression and flat-out genocide, rather than just the broad population of those fleeing a war zone.

The short answer to that is that the flood of the latter has stretched the capabilities of our allies, and they want us to pitch in, especially since they are on the front lines of a crisis that was mostly provoked by a US-EU misadventure in Libya and the decision by Obama to just pull out of Iraq with no residual force to sustain stability. The longer answer is that the Obama administration has avoided acknowledging the genocides as a way to push off the need to intervene to stop them — which was, after all, the supposed reason for the intervention in Libya that turned into a war of decapitation.

all the rest of the article here:
Can governors actually block refugee resettlement?

ISIS is killing anyone who doesn't adhere to their exact "interpretation" of Islam. The majority of ISIS' victims are Muslim. The people fleeing are fleeing persecution, slavery, and death whether they are Muslim, Christian, or one of the many religious minorities in the region. We should not be using a religious litmus test to decide who to help.

Yep fuck all of them.
We have children gunned down every fuckin day an you Pathetic lefties don't give a fuck.
We have 3000000 of our own sleeping in the streets but not a fuckin word abou that either.
Fuck America! We have to focus on refugees from an area devout in terrorism. Yea THATS what we need to focus on.
Why don't you assholes ever try to relocate people living in the American slums? Is it because they are American?

 

[Coyote]

this is from an article at the site.

a snippet:
Also, it’s not like we’ve shut our doors until now; we have already been offering asylum and have taken in over two thousand refugees so far. One might expect that these would tend toward the Assyrian Christians who have been victimized by the genocides perpetrated by ISIS, but they account for fewer than 3% of those granted asylum in the US, according to CNS News:

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of “other religion,” 7 of “no religion,” and 3 atheists.

By comparison, Syria’s population breakdown in early 2011, before the civil war’s death toll and refugee exodus roiled the demographics, was 90 percent Muslim (including Sunnis, Shia, Alawites and Druze) and 10 percent Christian, according to the CIA World Factbook.

This has some wondering why we’re not focusing more on those fleeing obvious religious oppression and flat-out genocide, rather than just the broad population of those fleeing a war zone.

The short answer to that is that the flood of the latter has stretched the capabilities of our allies, and they want us to pitch in, especially since they are on the front lines of a crisis that was mostly provoked by a US-EU misadventure in Libya and the decision by Obama to just pull out of Iraq with no residual force to sustain stability. The longer answer is that the Obama administration has avoided acknowledging the genocides as a way to push off the need to intervene to stop them — which was, after all, the supposed reason for the intervention in Libya that turned into a war of decapitation.

all the rest of the article here:
Can governors actually block refugee resettlement?

ISIS is killing anyone who doesn't adhere to their exact "interpretation" of Islam. The majority of ISIS' victims are Muslim. The people fleeing are fleeing persecution, slavery, and death whether they are Muslim, Christian, or one of the many religious minorities in the region. We should not be using a religious litmus test to decide who to help.

Yep fuck all of them.
We have children gunned down every fuckin day an you Pathetic lefties don't give a fuck.
We have 3000000 of our own sleeping in the streets but not a fuckin word abou that either.
Fuck America! We have to focus on refugees from an area devout in terrorism. Yea THATS what we need to focus on.
Why don't you assholes ever try to relocate people living in the American slums? Is it because they are American?

It's a pity that the only time you pathetic righties give a fuck about homelessness and poverty is when the issue of refugees comes up

I wonder if we'll now start hearing impassioned speeches in the Republican debates to end homelessness - speeches that have never translated into action.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Republicans are certainly slavoring to find a way to use this tragedy to their political advantage."

Exactly.

They're not afraid of terrorists or bombings or refugees – they're only afraid of losing the GE next year.

 

[TheOldSchool]

The islamic faith does NOT permit the American way of life. And it shows NO wish to do so. Its a violation of their faith to do so.

Neither does Christianity. Thankfully we've managed to regulate the shit out of it.

You're fucking crazy... America was founded on Judaeo-Christian principals... you know, the reliance on the providence of God... religion and morality are the basis of freedom.

You should thanks us.... oh, we don't regulate Christianity, we can't... anymore than we can regulate any religion.

Where do you nutters come up with this retarded shit?

America has a magical idea that was created upon its founding. In its founding documents, our forefathers made certain to include language that would prevent religion from interfering with people's freedoms and from religious tyranny. And so they gifted us the separation between church and state. And we have prospered.

Sadly, foreign meddling has left the middle east under the control of their version of bible thumpers and gun nuts.

So much tripe from the uneducated.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Do you think you proved something? What's your point? Where are God, Jesus, or the Bible mentioned in the constitution?

 

[SwimExpert]

The islamic faith does NOT permit the American way of life. And it shows NO wish to do so. Its a violation of their faith to do so.

Your post does not permit intelligence. And it shows no wish to do so. It's a violation of your stupidity to do so.

 

[DarkFury]

The islamic faith does NOT permit the American way of life. And it shows NO wish to do so. Its a violation of their faith to do so.

Your post does not permit intelligence. And it shows no wish to do so. It's a violation of your stupidity to do so.

Well then how about you show me and everyone else how islam SUPPORTS the American way of life.

 

[TNHarley]

this is from an article at the site.

a snippet:
Also, it’s not like we’ve shut our doors until now; we have already been offering asylum and have taken in over two thousand refugees so far. One might expect that these would tend toward the Assyrian Christians who have been victimized by the genocides perpetrated by ISIS, but they account for fewer than 3% of those granted asylum in the US, according to CNS News:

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of “other religion,” 7 of “no religion,” and 3 atheists.

By comparison, Syria’s population breakdown in early 2011, before the civil war’s death toll and refugee exodus roiled the demographics, was 90 percent Muslim (including Sunnis, Shia, Alawites and Druze) and 10 percent Christian, according to the CIA World Factbook.

This has some wondering why we’re not focusing more on those fleeing obvious religious oppression and flat-out genocide, rather than just the broad population of those fleeing a war zone.

The short answer to that is that the flood of the latter has stretched the capabilities of our allies, and they want us to pitch in, especially since they are on the front lines of a crisis that was mostly provoked by a US-EU misadventure in Libya and the decision by Obama to just pull out of Iraq with no residual force to sustain stability. The longer answer is that the Obama administration has avoided acknowledging the genocides as a way to push off the need to intervene to stop them — which was, after all, the supposed reason for the intervention in Libya that turned into a war of decapitation.

all the rest of the article here:
Can governors actually block refugee resettlement?

ISIS is killing anyone who doesn't adhere to their exact "interpretation" of Islam. The majority of ISIS' victims are Muslim. The people fleeing are fleeing persecution, slavery, and death whether they are Muslim, Christian, or one of the many religious minorities in the region. We should not be using a religious litmus test to decide who to help.

Yep fuck all of them.
We have children gunned down every fuckin day an you Pathetic lefties don't give a fuck.
We have 3000000 of our own sleeping in the streets but not a fuckin word abou that either.
Fuck America! We have to focus on refugees from an area devout in terrorism. Yea THATS what we need to focus on.
Why don't you assholes ever try to relocate people living in the American slums? Is it because they are American?

It's a pity that the only time you pathetic righties give a fuck about homelessness and poverty is when the issue of refugees comes up

I wonder if we'll now start hearing impassioned speeches in the Republican debates to end homelessness - speeches that have never translated into action.

Actually I mention it all the time.
I have even made threads about it so gfy hack

 

[SwimExpert]

The islamic faith does NOT permit the American way of life. And it shows NO wish to do so. Its a violation of their faith to do so.

Your post does not permit intelligence. And it shows no wish to do so. It's a violation of your stupidity to do so.

Well then how about you show me and everyone else how islam SUPPORTS the American way of life.

I'd never dream of violating your god given right to stupidity.

 

[idb]

It takes real courage to stick to your principles when you're under threat - let alone actually under fire...the French are demonstrating that their belief in a free and fair society is more than just words.
Liberte, egalite, fraternite is their motto and they are living by it.

Bravo La France.

 

[Coyote]

this is from an article at the site.

a snippet:
Also, it’s not like we’ve shut our doors until now; we have already been offering asylum and have taken in over two thousand refugees so far. One might expect that these would tend toward the Assyrian Christians who have been victimized by the genocides perpetrated by ISIS, but they account for fewer than 3% of those granted asylum in the US, according to CNS News:

Of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of “other religion,” 7 of “no religion,” and 3 atheists.

By comparison, Syria’s population breakdown in early 2011, before the civil war’s death toll and refugee exodus roiled the demographics, was 90 percent Muslim (including Sunnis, Shia, Alawites and Druze) and 10 percent Christian, according to the CIA World Factbook.

This has some wondering why we’re not focusing more on those fleeing obvious religious oppression and flat-out genocide, rather than just the broad population of those fleeing a war zone.

The short answer to that is that the flood of the latter has stretched the capabilities of our allies, and they want us to pitch in, especially since they are on the front lines of a crisis that was mostly provoked by a US-EU misadventure in Libya and the decision by Obama to just pull out of Iraq with no residual force to sustain stability. The longer answer is that the Obama administration has avoided acknowledging the genocides as a way to push off the need to intervene to stop them — which was, after all, the supposed reason for the intervention in Libya that turned into a war of decapitation.

all the rest of the article here:
Can governors actually block refugee resettlement?

ISIS is killing anyone who doesn't adhere to their exact "interpretation" of Islam. The majority of ISIS' victims are Muslim. The people fleeing are fleeing persecution, slavery, and death whether they are Muslim, Christian, or one of the many religious minorities in the region. We should not be using a religious litmus test to decide who to help.

Yep fuck all of them.
We have children gunned down every fuckin day an you Pathetic lefties don't give a fuck.
We have 3000000 of our own sleeping in the streets but not a fuckin word abou that either.
Fuck America! We have to focus on refugees from an area devout in terrorism. Yea THATS what we need to focus on.
Why don't you assholes ever try to relocate people living in the American slums? Is it because they are American?

It's a pity that the only time you pathetic righties give a fuck about homelessness and poverty is when the issue of refugees comes up

I wonder if we'll now start hearing impassioned speeches in the Republican debates to end homelessness - speeches that have never translated into action.

Actually I mention it all the time.
I have even made threads about it so gfy hack

Ya know...so do I...so gfy too

 

[Coyote]

The islamic faith does NOT permit the American way of life. And it shows NO wish to do so. Its a violation of their faith to do so.

Your post does not permit intelligence. And it shows no wish to do so. It's a violation of your stupidity to do so.

Well then how about you show me and everyone else how islam SUPPORTS the American way of life.

How does any religion support the "American way of life"? They don't. Individuals do.

 

[eagle1462010]

https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/upload/wysiwyg/article pdfs/Shariah_VS_Constitution.pdf

All Muslim immigrants please leave your Quran and Sharia Law at the door please.............it violates the Constitution.......

 

[Coyote]

https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/upload/wysiwyg/article pdfs/Shariah_VS_Constitution.pdf

All Muslim immigrants please leave your Quran and Sharia Law at the door please.............it violates the Constitution.......

We have this thing called Freedom of Religion in our country. In case you forget.

 

[eagle1462010]

https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/upload/wysiwyg/article pdfs/Shariah_VS_Constitution.pdf

All Muslim immigrants please leave your Quran and Sharia Law at the door please.............it violates the Constitution.......

We have this thing called Freedom of Religion in our country. In case you forget.

We know that................do they.......................Under the article posted............if they believe in Islamic Law and the Quran to the letter..........then they would violate our Constitution and Laws..............didn't look at the article did you......................

 

[theDoctorisIn]

https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/upload/wysiwyg/article pdfs/Shariah_VS_Constitution.pdf

All Muslim immigrants please leave your Quran and Sharia Law at the door please.............it violates the Constitution.......

Frank Gaffney?

You know that even CPAC banned him for being a looney-toon, right?

 

[Shrimpbox]

I know that all those right wingers are "hysterical", " shitting in their pants" , unread, and uncouth. It is very noticeable that Obama psychosis is contagious. Even mods have been overcome with condescension, arrogance, and a sense of superiority, being dismissive of anyone who disagrees with them. Let me recommend some reading that Rubio probably took note of but our so much smarter op writers apparently missed. Please forgive my insolence.