Zone1 Unbeliever: You Are Responsible

[SweetSue92]

Just look at this thread you created.

UNBELIEVER IT"S ALL YOUR FAULT

There is no such thing as "sin"

Opinion.

 

[Blues Man]

Opinion.

It's the title of your fucking thread so how is that my opinion?

 

[LibertyKid]

He absolutely had utmost respect for the Law and quoted Bible stories frequently. That fact that Jesus did not use our word--"Bible"--does not mean He didn't mention it. That's like saying because people in other cultures don't say "water", they never talk about water. No, they do. They just have different words for it.

He referenced the scriptures because they lived in a theocracy that dictated their every day lives. And not only did Jesus mention the OT Scriptures, but he also defied and redefined them.

You have the burden of proof that to be a Christian that a belief in "The Bible" and that Jesus stated that a belief in the Bible is a salvific tenant. You can't.

 

[Leviticus]

A reminder that you said there was no extra-Biblical evidence for human/child sacrifice. There is and I proved you wrong. I will not now chase another rabbit trail of yours.

Can you point out the post where I claimed that there was no human sacrifice.
Because I don't remember ever making that claim.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

He is neither a theory nor a metaphor. He is the one who created us, as His children, as His heirs, after His own image.

Opinion.

It's a fact.

God is real, and it is only the foolish and wicked that deny Him.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Well, you don't account for the half of humanity that doesn't worship the Abrahamic God, such as Hindus, Buddhists and Shintos.
What if the Shintos are right and God is really an angry Japanese woman?

By the numbers that you provided in a different thread, the majority of humanity recognized and worships the one true God of Abraham.

Those who deny Him, and those who worship false Gods, are in for a nasty surprise when they get to the other side.

 

[onefour1]

If there were actual irrefutable proof people would have to believe. If you can't provide proof that is verifiable then you have no proof

But to him individually it would be proof.

 

[Blues Man]

It's a fact.

God is real, and it is only the foolish and wicked that deny Him.

Show him to me

 

[Blues Man]

But to him individually it would be proof.

Not verifiable proof just some persons say so

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

God is a theory not a metaphor.

A theory that is yet unproven I might add.

The Great Theorist in the Sky

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

He is neither a theory nor a metaphor. He is the one who created us, as His children, as His heirs, after His own image.

The Great Führer in the Sky

 

[onefour1]

Not verifiable proof just some persons say so

Not verifiable to others perhaps, but the one who experienced it has absolute confidence in what he personally experienced.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Show him to me

You'll meet Him soon enough.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Not verifiable to others perhaps, but the one who experienced it has absolute confidence in what he personally experienced.

Have you ever seen the movie Contact?

I don't know how true this aspect of it is to the book by Carl Sagan on which it is based…

The main character, played by Jodie Foster is an atheist, probably an echo of Carl Sagan on that matter.

She has a relationship with a religious person, and they have a discussion on that matter in which she makes all sorts of points dismissing the experiences that the religious guy has on which his faith is based.

She ends up having an experience (not religious in nature), which everyone else doubts. In trying to defend what she experienced, she finds the same arguments being used against her, that she used earlier in the movie, against the other character's religious experiences.


Now Carl Sagan was, himself, a very well-known, lifelong atheist, and as I said, I think the Jodie Foster character in the movie was, early in the movie, pretty much echoing his take on the matter. When he wrote the book, he knew that he was dying of cancer, that he wasn't much longer for the world. I wonder if being so aware of the imminent end of his mortal life caused him to rethink his whole attitude about religion. I haven't read the book, but the movie as a whole seemed, to me, to to echo such a rethought.

Or maybe that aspect in the movie was someone else's creation, and not found in Sagan's book.

 

[onefour1]

Have you ever seen the movie Contact?

I don't know how true this aspect of it is to the book by Carl Sagan on which it is based…

The main character, played by Jodie Foster is an atheist, probably an echo of Carl Sagan on that matter.

She has a relationship with a religious person, and they have a discussion on that matter in which she makes all sorts of points dismissing the experiences that the religious guy has on which his faith is based.

She ends up having an experience (not religious in nature), which everyone else doubts. In trying to defend what she experienced, she finds the same arguments being used against her, that she used earlier in the movie, against the other character's religious experiences.


Now Carl Sagan was, himself, a very well-known, lifelong atheist, and as I said, I think the Jodie Foster character in the movie was, early in the movie, pretty much echoing his take on the matter. When he wrote the book, he knew that he was dying of cancer, that he wasn't much longer for the world. I wonder if being so aware of the imminent end of his mortal life caused him to rethink his whole attitude about religion. I haven't read the book, but the movie as a whole seemed, to me, to to echo such a rethought.

Or maybe that aspect in the movie was someone else's creation, and not found in Sagan's book.

I'll have to check the movie out. Sounds quite interesting!

 

[Blues Man]

Not verifiable to others perhaps, but the one who experienced it has absolute confidence in what he personally experienced.

Which could very well be nothing but a figment of his imagination

 

[Blues Man]

You'll meet Him soon enough.

I highly doubt that

 

[XponentialChaos]

Meh. Assuming your religion is true, I'm already going to Hell anyway. Your sky daddy is more concerned with me kissing his ass than me being a good human being.

 

[surada]

The Neanderthal Didn't Die Out; They Were Killed Off

A deeper analysis would ignore the Flood, because shallow critics ignore everything else, and concentrate on who these totally evil people were. Who are they today?

And God, as a metaphor for what is best for the human race, didn't create those people. Though having the opposite ethics, it's similar to a race traitor's belief that Liberalism didn't create THOSE HORRIBLE WHITE PEOPLE, so deified Socialist Justice would command that they be replaced.

Neanderthals were absorbed into the human race.

 

[Meriweather]

Meh. Assuming your religion is true, I'm already going to Hell anyway. Your sky daddy is more concerned with me kissing his ass than me being a good human being.

I suppose that depends on your definition of religion.

Religion is the belief in a Being that is greater than humanity. God. Lord. Father. Held in high esteem and is not scoffed. Those who scoff have no religion as they have no knowledge or experience of this greater Being.

God has extraordinary respect for you, and would never ask you to do anything that demeans yourself.

Announcing you are going to hell is an announcement you reject goodness, love, and extending a helping hand to anyone.

The reason you give for rejecting religion is like someone saying they reject football because one must throw a ball through a hoop before knocking down ten pins. Clearly such a person hasn't the faintest idea of what football is about or what it entails.