Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

[Rigby5]

That would be true if the person was never in the persons home, but swore under penalty of perjury that they were in the persons home, and saw the person in possession of the illegal objects in question.

But that is clearly not the case here. Somebody who had access to Trumps boxes, swore an affidavit to their contents.

The person would have had to prove he had access as part of affidavit validation. And finding the items he swore to, proves he was truthful about that part of the affidavit too.

Affidavit verified. Warrant verified. Search verified.

Wrong.
Nothing has been verified.
We do not yet know if all 15 boxes were personal or not?
Nor have we seen the warrant or affidavit, so have no way or knowing validity or not.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is where your "wrong" is wrong. The Espionage act has nothing to do with the classification of the material, but instead with the content. Items if discovered by our enemies would harm national security.

Correct.

The issue isn’t the classification of the documents; rather, the issue is that documents pertaining military intelligence and national security were in an unsecured location, lost, or destroyed.

 

[BWK]

You guys probably just assured Trump's re-election.

You'd vote for a felon? Damn son, you have zero self respect I see.

 

[meaner gene]

That shows you do not at all understand.
The point of shipping classified documents to the National Archies, is so they can be destroyed.
The National Archies do not and can not retain classified documents.

Idiot, they had a whole office (ISOO) dedicated to handling and storing classified information.

They do not have classified destruction authority. That is only given to the agency of original classification.

To translate that for you. If the national archives gets a copy of a CIA or NSA document, they send it to the CIA or NSA.
They do not destroy it

Think about it. You're claiming they could destroy the only copy of a particular classified document. Which is clearly wrong.

 

[Rigby5]

No, a basement room is not adequate protection for Top Secret information

It must be controlled and stored in a safe

If it is obsolete, it is officially declassified as such
This information had current TS status

Wrong.
Classified material is almost never stored in a safe, since no one makes safes large enough.
When I work in Top Secret sites on Top Secret documents, they typically can be left on your desktop, because the whole site is secure.

It is totally up to Trump what he wants to declassify or not, when president.
So whether or not he started or finished the declassifying process for others or not, is irrelevant.
He is the final arbitrator, no one else.

 

[BS Filter]

You'd vote for a felon? Damn son, you have zero self respect I see.

I'd vote for Jesse James over Biden.

 

[BWK]

Is Trump in jail yet?

Folks who cheer for criminals like Trump are no better than him.

 

[BWK]

I'd vote for Jesse James over Biden.

This tells us everything we need to know about you then. No self respect, and a supporter of criminals. A true American.

 

[meaner gene]

Doesn’t work like that

Trumpites are using Classification as an excuse not to store documents properly.

Classification relates to national security. Top Secret means it will cause great harm if our enemy gets it.

If Trump declassifies Top Secret information he is approving its release to our enemies

Maybe that's what Trump had in mind all along.

Selling national security secrets to the Saudi's, or Russians, or just to the highest bidder.

 

[Rigby5]

Idiot, they had a whole office (ISOO) dedicated to handling and storing classified information.

They do not have classified destruction authority. That is only given to the agency of original classification.

To translate that for you. If the national archives gets a copy of a CIA or NSA document, they send it to the CIA or NSA.
They do not destroy it

Think about it. You're claiming they could destroy the only copy of a particular classified document. Which is clearly wrong.

The agency of original classification is not the ultimate authority, the president is.

If the National Archies is sent a classified document from a former president's cabinet, they either destroy it, because they have no one to send it to, or they give it to the ex-president.

 

[BWK]

Wrong.
Classified material is almost never stored in a safe, since no one makes safes large enough.
When I work in Top Secret sites on Top Secret documents, they typically can be left on your desktop, because the whole site is secure.

It is totally up to Trump what he wants to declassify or not, when president.
So whether or not he started or finished the declassifying process for others or not, is irrelevant.
He is the final arbitrator, no one else.

Having them at his house is a federal crime. Mutilating them is a federal crime. The man stole documents;

 

[BWK]

Maybe that's what Trump had in mind all along.

Selling national security secrets to the Saudi's, or Russians, or just to the highest bidder.

That's why I think he had them.

 

[rightwinger]

It is totally up to Trump what he wants to declassify or not, when president.
So whether or not he started or finished the declassifying process for others or not, is irrelevant.
He is the final arbitrator, no one else.

Trump can declassify

But it is more than his word …….OK my documents are now declassified, I don’t need to protect them

His order must be followed by a formal declassification process

EVERYONE who has that information must be notified it is now declassified

It didn’t happen

 

[Rigby5]

This tells us everything we need to know about you then. No self respect, and a supporter of criminals. A true American.

Biden is extremely low credibility.
He was the author of the 1994 federal crime bill that created the federal War on Drugs, 3 strikes, mandatory sentences, asset forfeiture, etc., as well as his role in the whole Ukraine fiasco.

 

[BWK]

The agency of original classification is not the ultimate authority, the president is.

If the National Archies is sent a classified document from a former president's cabinet, they either destroy it, because they have no one to send it to, or they give it to the ex-president.

He's not president.

 

[BS Filter]

Folks who cheer for criminals like Trump are no better than him.

Boo hoo.

 

[Rigby5]

Trump can declassify

But it is more than his word …….OK my documents are now declassified, I don’t need to protect them

His order must be followed by a formal declassification process

EVERYONE who has that information must be notified it is now declassified

It didn’t happen

Agreed the formal process should also follow, but that did not have to happen right away.
It could have slowly been digested from the basement of Mara Lago.
Nothing illegal about that.

 

[BWK]

Biden is extremely low credibility.
He was the author of the 1994 federal crime bill that created the federal War on Drugs, 3 strikes, mandatory sentences, asset forfeiture, etc., as well as his role in the whole Ukraine fiasco.

What about isms are for losers, cowards, and folks who have run out of arguments. That's you.

 

[MagicMike]

Who is gonna vote for a man that steals and hides Top Secret classified material...and the crimes in the warrant apply even if he claims he declassified them....which is another lie Sit on that and spin....

What we see is an FBI raid in which an anti-Trump judge allowed a warrant to search anywhere and everywhere, with the papers being taken limited to….get this….those created between the first day of Trump’s presidency and the last.

The search was in violation of Trump’s 4th Amendment rights. And the idiot Dems didn’t think this through. Even if they manage to convince useful idiots that Trump was in violation of the Espionage Act (what a joke….considering the FBI is protecting Hunter and his connection to the Big Guy), there will be such a swelling of outrage for what our government has become under Dems that DeSantis will win every state, possibly excluding NY and CA.

IOW, the Dems have just sealed a win for the Republican in 2024, and also an even stronger win in the midterms.

Oh BULLSHIT!
Trump stole U.S. secrets he thought might be useful to him in his future dealings with his handler (and pimp) Vladimir Putin....since he is no longer in a position to help Vlad directly from The Oval Office like he did for four years.

We should have listened to Hillary back in 2016 before Putin installed the lesser qualified Trump into the presidency.

 

[Rigby5]

He's not president.

But we are talking about the documents he was sent and read, when president.
We are not talking about any new document created after he was no longer president.