US vs Flynn

How is it possible that there are thinking humans who believe, to this day, that Michael Flynn is an honest man who did nothing worthy of prison time?

Yeah, you know, being a 3-star general in the United States Army is the epitome of leading a life of crime.
/sarcasm
He didn't commit them until he tetired. He did still commit them.
 
The filings written by Flynn’s new lawyers are always so hilarious. They really turn the drama up to 11.

Anyone who thinks Flynn wasn’t lying to the FBI agents hasn’t really looked at the evidence against him in the indictment and plea deal. I dare anyone to try and make a case that he doesn’t remember talking about sanctions
And when your mind is closed to the ideas of others, why should their minds be open to YOUR ideas?

It’s not my ideas, but the facts laid out in the court filings.

Facts which are routinely ignored by the right.

Do you really think Flynn forgot he talked about sanctions with the Russian ambassador?
Do you not think the fbi threatened his family?
Do we think the FBI threatened whose family, Flynn's? They may have threatened his son with criminal charges as well. So what? The son is also guilty of crimes.


I am getting sick and tired with the constant defense that everyone indicted and convicted of crimes, who was associated with Trump is somehow a victim and innocent.
Even if they are in fact set up, we should be upset they didn't like it?
They weren’t.
 
The filings written by Flynn’s new lawyers are always so hilarious. They really turn the drama up to 11.

Anyone who thinks Flynn wasn’t lying to the FBI agents hasn’t really looked at the evidence against him in the indictment and plea deal. I dare anyone to try and make a case that he doesn’t remember talking about sanctions
And when your mind is closed to the ideas of others, why should their minds be open to YOUR ideas?

It’s not my ideas, but the facts laid out in the court filings.

Facts which are routinely ignored by the right.

Do you really think Flynn forgot he talked about sanctions with the Russian ambassador?
Do you not think the fbi threatened his family?
Do we think the FBI threatened whose family, Flynn's? They may have threatened his son with criminal charges as well. So what? The son is also guilty of crimes.


I am getting sick and tired with the constant defense that everyone indicted and convicted of crimes, who was associated with Trump is somehow a victim and innocent.
Even if they are in fact set up, we should be upset they didn't like it?
They weren’t.
then why did the FBI lie about FISA
why did they threaten his kid?
why are we having proof in court it *was* done and yet you still say "no it wasn't"?

if this were being done to liberals, would you still adamant they were full of shit based on the same evidence?

it's just as frustrating to see people delete evidence, destroy where the evidence was kept, stall for months on the initial request, get caught lying and so forth and hear people go "she didn't do nuffin..."

that's the gov we've created isn't it?
 
The filings written by Flynn’s new lawyers are always so hilarious. They really turn the drama up to 11.

Anyone who thinks Flynn wasn’t lying to the FBI agents hasn’t really looked at the evidence against him in the indictment and plea deal. I dare anyone to try and make a case that he doesn’t remember talking about sanctions
And when your mind is closed to the ideas of others, why should their minds be open to YOUR ideas?

It’s not my ideas, but the facts laid out in the court filings.

Facts which are routinely ignored by the right.

Do you really think Flynn forgot he talked about sanctions with the Russian ambassador?
Do you not think the fbi threatened his family?
Do we think the FBI threatened whose family, Flynn's? They may have threatened his son with criminal charges as well. So what? The son is also guilty of crimes.


I am getting sick and tired with the constant defense that everyone indicted and convicted of crimes, who was associated with Trump is somehow a victim and innocent.
Even if they are in fact set up, we should be upset they didn't like it?
They weren’t.
then why did the FBI lie about FISA
why did they threaten his kid?
why are we having proof in court it *was* done and yet you still say "no it wasn't"?

if this were being done to liberals, would you still adamant they were full of shit based on the same evidence?

it's just as frustrating to see people delete evidence, destroy where the evidence was kept, stall for months on the initial request, get caught lying and so forth and hear people go "she didn't do nuffin..."

that's the gov we've created isn't it?

You are determined to talk about Hillary Clinton in this thread, which you began, about the convicted felon Michael Flynn.

Did Flynn attempt to profit personally from his close connections to the president-elect? Did he lie under oath to congress and to law enforcement? Did he plead guilty?
 
You’re dreaming if you think the Trump administration is going to prosecute Obama’s people. They won’t, because they know the succeeding D administration might do it to them, whether justified or not.


The democrats have shown they will go after people no matter what, so if the democrats take office after Trump, they are going to go after his family regardless of what he does in office...... there will be no pass when he leaves office.
 
then why did the FBI lie about FISA

Has nothing to do with Flynn

why did they threaten his kid?

His kid was implicated in federal crimes committed by Flynn since they were both part of his illegal lobbying schemes.

why are we having proof in court it *was* done and yet you still say "no it wasn't"?

There is no proof he was set up. The facts of Flynn’s case are completely unaffected by anything presented here. There is no real defense of Flynn’s crimes. Just whining about other issues.
 
The filings written by Flynn’s new lawyers are always so hilarious. They really turn the drama up to 11.

Anyone who thinks Flynn wasn’t lying to the FBI agents hasn’t really looked at the evidence against him in the indictment and plea deal. I dare anyone to try and make a case that he doesn’t remember talking about sanctions
And when your mind is closed to the ideas of others, why should their minds be open to YOUR ideas?

It’s not my ideas, but the facts laid out in the court filings.

Facts which are routinely ignored by the right.

Do you really think Flynn forgot he talked about sanctions with the Russian ambassador?
Do you not think the fbi threatened his family?
Do we think the FBI threatened whose family, Flynn's? They may have threatened his son with criminal charges as well. So what? The son is also guilty of crimes.


I am getting sick and tired with the constant defense that everyone indicted and convicted of crimes, who was associated with Trump is somehow a victim and innocent.
Even if they are in fact set up, we should be upset they didn't like it?
They weren’t.
then why did the FBI lie about FISA
why did they threaten his kid?
why are we having proof in court it *was* done and yet you still say "no it wasn't"?

if this were being done to liberals, would you still adamant they were full of shit based on the same evidence?

it's just as frustrating to see people delete evidence, destroy where the evidence was kept, stall for months on the initial request, get caught lying and so forth and hear people go "she didn't do nuffin..."

that's the gov we've created isn't it?

You are determined to talk about Hillary Clinton in this thread, which you began, about the convicted felon Michael Flynn.

Did Flynn attempt to profit personally from his close connections to the president-elect? Did he lie under oath to congress and to law enforcement? Did he plead guilty?


The only thing he did was plead guilty under coercion from a false investigation......... even the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn under false pretenses stated that they did not believe he was lying.
 
You’re dreaming if you think the Trump administration is going to prosecute Obama’s people. They won’t, because they know the succeeding D administration might do it to them, whether justified or not.


The democrats have shown they will go after people no matter what, so if the democrats take office after Trump, they are going to go after his family regardless of what he does in office...... there will be no pass when he leaves office.

All of the supposed corruption that this thread is discussing has taken place under republican leadership. Fuckwit.
 
The filings written by Flynn’s new lawyers are always so hilarious. They really turn the drama up to 11.

Anyone who thinks Flynn wasn’t lying to the FBI agents hasn’t really looked at the evidence against him in the indictment and plea deal. I dare anyone to try and make a case that he doesn’t remember talking about sanctions
And when your mind is closed to the ideas of others, why should their minds be open to YOUR ideas?

It’s not my ideas, but the facts laid out in the court filings.

Facts which are routinely ignored by the right.

Do you really think Flynn forgot he talked about sanctions with the Russian ambassador?
Do you not think the fbi threatened his family?
Do we think the FBI threatened whose family, Flynn's? They may have threatened his son with criminal charges as well. So what? The son is also guilty of crimes.


I am getting sick and tired with the constant defense that everyone indicted and convicted of crimes, who was associated with Trump is somehow a victim and innocent.
Even if they are in fact set up, we should be upset they didn't like it?
They weren’t.
then why did the FBI lie about FISA
why did they threaten his kid?
why are we having proof in court it *was* done and yet you still say "no it wasn't"?

if this were being done to liberals, would you still adamant they were full of shit based on the same evidence?

it's just as frustrating to see people delete evidence, destroy where the evidence was kept, stall for months on the initial request, get caught lying and so forth and hear people go "she didn't do nuffin..."

that's the gov we've created isn't it?

You are determined to talk about Hillary Clinton in this thread, which you began, about the convicted felon Michael Flynn.

Did Flynn attempt to profit personally from his close connections to the president-elect? Did he lie under oath to congress and to law enforcement? Did he plead guilty?


The only thing he did was plead guilty under coercion from a false investigation......... even the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn under false pretenses stated that they did not believe he was lying.

Bullshit.
 
The filings written by Flynn’s new lawyers are always so hilarious. They really turn the drama up to 11.

Anyone who thinks Flynn wasn’t lying to the FBI agents hasn’t really looked at the evidence against him in the indictment and plea deal. I dare anyone to try and make a case that he doesn’t remember talking about sanctions
And when your mind is closed to the ideas of others, why should their minds be open to YOUR ideas?

It’s not my ideas, but the facts laid out in the court filings.

Facts which are routinely ignored by the right.

Do you really think Flynn forgot he talked about sanctions with the Russian ambassador?
Do you not think the fbi threatened his family?
Do we think the FBI threatened whose family, Flynn's? They may have threatened his son with criminal charges as well. So what? The son is also guilty of crimes.


I am getting sick and tired with the constant defense that everyone indicted and convicted of crimes, who was associated with Trump is somehow a victim and innocent.
Even if they are in fact set up, we should be upset they didn't like it?
They weren’t.
then why did the FBI lie about FISA
why did they threaten his kid?
why are we having proof in court it *was* done and yet you still say "no it wasn't"?

if this were being done to liberals, would you still adamant they were full of shit based on the same evidence?

it's just as frustrating to see people delete evidence, destroy where the evidence was kept, stall for months on the initial request, get caught lying and so forth and hear people go "she didn't do nuffin..."

that's the gov we've created isn't it?

You are determined to talk about Hillary Clinton in this thread, which you began, about the convicted felon Michael Flynn.

Did Flynn attempt to profit personally from his close connections to the president-elect? Did he lie under oath to congress and to law enforcement? Did he plead guilty?


The only thing he did was plead guilty under coercion from a false investigation......... even the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn under false pretenses stated that they did not believe he was lying.

Bullshit.


If the current reports are true....you are about to get bitch slapped by the Durham investigation......and the lovers at the FBI, comey, brennan are maybe going to actually see the inside of a courtroom...
 
You’re dreaming if you think the Trump administration is going to prosecute Obama’s people. They won’t, because they know the succeeding D administration might do it to them, whether justified or not.


The democrats have shown they will go after people no matter what, so if the democrats take office after Trump, they are going to go after his family regardless of what he does in office...... there will be no pass when he leaves office.

All of the supposed corruption that this thread is discussing has taken place under republican leadership. Fuckwit.


No, dipshit....the illegal spying on the Trump campaign happened under obama, with his direct knowledge.......they used fake information paid for by the DNC and hilary and created by actual Russians to get illegal FISA warrants 4 times............

The worst political scandal in our history......it extends beyond the U.S. since those morons pulled in foreign agents to attack the opposition party during an election...
 
The filings written by Flynn’s new lawyers are always so hilarious. They really turn the drama up to 11.

Anyone who thinks Flynn wasn’t lying to the FBI agents hasn’t really looked at the evidence against him in the indictment and plea deal. I dare anyone to try and make a case that he doesn’t remember talking about sanctions
And when your mind is closed to the ideas of others, why should their minds be open to YOUR ideas?

It’s not my ideas, but the facts laid out in the court filings.

Facts which are routinely ignored by the right.

Do you really think Flynn forgot he talked about sanctions with the Russian ambassador?
Do you not think the fbi threatened his family?
Do we think the FBI threatened whose family, Flynn's? They may have threatened his son with criminal charges as well. So what? The son is also guilty of crimes.


I am getting sick and tired with the constant defense that everyone indicted and convicted of crimes, who was associated with Trump is somehow a victim and innocent.
Even if they are in fact set up, we should be upset they didn't like it?
They weren’t.
then why did the FBI lie about FISA
why did they threaten his kid?
why are we having proof in court it *was* done and yet you still say "no it wasn't"?

if this were being done to liberals, would you still adamant they were full of shit based on the same evidence?

it's just as frustrating to see people delete evidence, destroy where the evidence was kept, stall for months on the initial request, get caught lying and so forth and hear people go "she didn't do nuffin..."

that's the gov we've created isn't it?

You are determined to talk about Hillary Clinton in this thread, which you began, about the convicted felon Michael Flynn.

Did Flynn attempt to profit personally from his close connections to the president-elect? Did he lie under oath to congress and to law enforcement? Did he plead guilty?


The only thing he did was plead guilty under coercion from a false investigation......... even the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn under false pretenses stated that they did not believe he was lying.

Bullshit.


If the current reports are true....you are about to get bitch slapped by the Durham investigation......and the lovers at the FBI, comey, brennan are maybe going to actually see the inside of a courtroom...

OK! Can’t wait.
 
You’re dreaming if you think the Trump administration is going to prosecute Obama’s people. They won’t, because they know the succeeding D administration might do it to them, whether justified or not.


The democrats have shown they will go after people no matter what, so if the democrats take office after Trump, they are going to go after his family regardless of what he does in office...... there will be no pass when he leaves office.

All of the supposed corruption that this thread is discussing has taken place under republican leadership. Fuckwit.


No, dipshit....the illegal spying on the Trump campaign happened under obama, with his direct knowledge.......they used fake information paid for by the DNC and hilary and created by actual Russians to get illegal FISA warrants 4 times............

The worst political scandal in our history......it extends beyond the U.S. since those morons pulled in foreign agents to attack the opposition party during an election...

Riiiiiiigggghhhhhhtttt!
 
You’re dreaming if you think the Trump administration is going to prosecute Obama’s people. They won’t, because they know the succeeding D administration might do it to them, whether justified or not.


The democrats have shown they will go after people no matter what, so if the democrats take office after Trump, they are going to go after his family regardless of what he does in office...... there will be no pass when he leaves office.

All of the supposed corruption that this thread is discussing has taken place under republican leadership. Fuckwit.


No, dipshit....the illegal spying on the Trump campaign happened under obama, with his direct knowledge.......they used fake information paid for by the DNC and hilary and created by actual Russians to get illegal FISA warrants 4 times............

The worst political scandal in our history......it extends beyond the U.S. since those morons pulled in foreign agents to attack the opposition party during an election...
Which is mostly bullshit. The only bad FISA warrant was for Page, not Trump. The FISA court was aware of Steele’s connection as opposition research.

Obama was aware there was a counterintelligence investigation but did not know any details and never asked for any.

Nothing in this investigation was used to attack the opposition party during an election. It was not political.
 
How is it possible that there are thinking humans who believe, to this day, that Michael Flynn is an honest man who did nothing worthy of prison time?

Easy. Libs lied the whole time. This isn't real difficult.
Libs lied? This had nothing to do with the libs. It had to do with Flynn's nefarious activity. Trump will pardon all his grifter friends.
 
The filings written by Flynn’s new lawyers are always so hilarious. They really turn the drama up to 11.

Anyone who thinks Flynn wasn’t lying to the FBI agents hasn’t really looked at the evidence against him in the indictment and plea deal. I dare anyone to try and make a case that he doesn’t remember talking about sanctions
And when your mind is closed to the ideas of others, why should their minds be open to YOUR ideas?

It’s not my ideas, but the facts laid out in the court filings.

Facts which are routinely ignored by the right.

Do you really think Flynn forgot he talked about sanctions with the Russian ambassador?
Do you not think the fbi threatened his family?
Do we think the FBI threatened whose family, Flynn's? They may have threatened his son with criminal charges as well. So what? The son is also guilty of crimes.


I am getting sick and tired with the constant defense that everyone indicted and convicted of crimes, who was associated with Trump is somehow a victim and innocent.
Even if they are in fact set up, we should be upset they didn't like it?
They weren’t.
then why did the FBI lie about FISA
why did they threaten his kid?
why are we having proof in court it *was* done and yet you still say "no it wasn't"?
1. What did that have to do with Flynn?
2. What court proof?
3. Why did they threaten his kid?

The extensive reporting around the involvement of Flynn’s son certainly suggests there is legitimate justification for interpreting the Flynn component of the investigation as a prosecutable family affair. Federal prosecutors leveraging one family member against another is a page directly out of a four-decade old prosecutorial playbook used successfully in Wall Street prosecutions. One need not look beyond the Enron prosecutions and guilty pleas of Andrew and Lea Fastow, husband and wife, and the Drexel-related guilty plea of Michael Milken, with Lowell Milken (his brother) averting prosecution, to find the use of this tactic in high profile white-collar prosecutions, that is outside of organized crime and gang prosecutions.

5. Why did he lie to tbe FBI? we aren’t talking minor lies, we are talking pretty major omissions of fact.

if this were being done to liberals, would you still adamant they were full of shit based on the same evidence?

Yes.

it's just as frustrating to see people delete evidence, destroy where the evidence was kept, stall for months on the initial request, get caught lying and so forth and hear people go "she didn't do nuffin..."

that's the gov we've created isn't it?

If that happens they should be held accountable and based on what the IG report found, the FBI be gone through with a fine tooth comb. I am guessing you are talking about Clinton. It is frustrating to see a person repeatedly investigated over and over despite nothing ever being found, for what seems more and more like partisan political reasons.

Flynn’s fate is in the courts. There is nothing there that does not suggest he did not do what he claimed Initially. He changed lawyers and then suddenly his tune.

According to prosecutors:
They also highlighted the severity of Mr. Flynn’s crime. They said he lied repeatedly to F.B.I. agents as a high-ranking White House official about whether he discussed sanctions with Mr. Kislyak before Mr. Trump assumed office — potentially conducting foreign policy while President Obama was still in power.
Prosecutors noted that others who pleaded guilty to lying to investigators in the Russia inquiry — including the former foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos and Alex van der Zwaan, a lawyer — were sentenced to prison, and they were private citizens. As a longtime government employee, Mr. Flynn should have known better, they suggested.
“Neither defendant was a high-ranking government official, held a position of trust vis-à-vis the United States, held a security clearance, had a special understanding of the impact of providing misleading information to investigators or denied responsibility for his unlawful conduct,” prosecutors wrote.


He wasn’t coerced to lie. He didn’t “forget” and suddenly “remember. He was treated the same as other white collar criminals. If the little guys got jail time, why does Flynn get off?
 
The filings written by Flynn’s new lawyers are always so hilarious. They really turn the drama up to 11.

Anyone who thinks Flynn wasn’t lying to the FBI agents hasn’t really looked at the evidence against him in the indictment and plea deal. I dare anyone to try and make a case that he doesn’t remember talking about sanctions
And when your mind is closed to the ideas of others, why should their minds be open to YOUR ideas?

It’s not my ideas, but the facts laid out in the court filings.

Facts which are routinely ignored by the right.

Do you really think Flynn forgot he talked about sanctions with the Russian ambassador?
Do you not think the fbi threatened his family?
Do we think the FBI threatened whose family, Flynn's? They may have threatened his son with criminal charges as well. So what? The son is also guilty of crimes.


I am getting sick and tired with the constant defense that everyone indicted and convicted of crimes, who was associated with Trump is somehow a victim and innocent.
Even if they are in fact set up, we should be upset they didn't like it?
They weren’t.
then why did the FBI lie about FISA
why did they threaten his kid?
why are we having proof in court it *was* done and yet you still say "no it wasn't"?

if this were being done to liberals, would you still adamant they were full of shit based on the same evidence?

it's just as frustrating to see people delete evidence, destroy where the evidence was kept, stall for months on the initial request, get caught lying and so forth and hear people go "she didn't do nuffin..."

that's the gov we've created isn't it?

You are determined to talk about Hillary Clinton in this thread, which you began, about the convicted felon Michael Flynn.

Did Flynn attempt to profit personally from his close connections to the president-elect? Did he lie under oath to congress and to law enforcement? Did he plead guilty?


The only thing he did was plead guilty under coercion from a false investigation......... even the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn under false pretenses stated that they did not believe he was lying.

Bullshit.


If the current reports are true....you are about to get bitch slapped by the Durham investigation......and the lovers at the FBI, comey, brennan are maybe going to actually see the inside of a courtroom...
That’s your political wet dream I am sure.
 
How is it possible that there are thinking humans who believe, to this day, that Michael Flynn is an honest man who did nothing worthy of prison time?

Easy. Libs lied the whole time. This isn't real difficult.
Libs lied? This had nothing to do with the libs. It had to do with Flynn's nefarious activity. Trump will pardon all his grifter friends.
And most of those on the FBI side were Republicans if I recall...

Of course that only matters if you believe career civil servants can’t possibly act in a professional and bipartisan way
 
How is it possible that there are thinking humans who believe, to this day, that Michael Flynn is an honest man who did nothing worthy of prison time?

Easy. Libs lied the whole time. This isn't real difficult.
Libs lied? This had nothing to do with the libs. It had to do with Flynn's nefarious activity. Trump will pardon all his grifter friends.
And most of those on the FBI side were Republicans if I recall...

Of course that only matters if you believe career civil servants can’t possibly act in a professional and bipartisan way
I believe that they can and do for the most part. Most of them are patriots who give their lives for America. Many do not have to take a salary of one half that they would make in the private sector. Trump hates authority--hence his attacks on our institutions.
 
The filings written by Flynn’s new lawyers are always so hilarious. They really turn the drama up to 11.

Anyone who thinks Flynn wasn’t lying to the FBI agents hasn’t really looked at the evidence against him in the indictment and plea deal. I dare anyone to try and make a case that he doesn’t remember talking about sanctions
And when your mind is closed to the ideas of others, why should their minds be open to YOUR ideas?

It’s not my ideas, but the facts laid out in the court filings.

Facts which are routinely ignored by the right.

Do you really think Flynn forgot he talked about sanctions with the Russian ambassador?
Do you not think the fbi threatened his family?
Do we think the FBI threatened whose family, Flynn's? They may have threatened his son with criminal charges as well. So what? The son is also guilty of crimes.


I am getting sick and tired with the constant defense that everyone indicted and convicted of crimes, who was associated with Trump is somehow a victim and innocent.
Even if they are in fact set up, we should be upset they didn't like it?
They weren’t.
then why did the FBI lie about FISA
why did they threaten his kid?
why are we having proof in court it *was* done and yet you still say "no it wasn't"?

if this were being done to liberals, would you still adamant they were full of shit based on the same evidence?

it's just as frustrating to see people delete evidence, destroy where the evidence was kept, stall for months on the initial request, get caught lying and so forth and hear people go "she didn't do nuffin..."

that's the gov we've created isn't it?

You are determined to talk about Hillary Clinton in this thread, which you began, about the convicted felon Michael Flynn.

Did Flynn attempt to profit personally from his close connections to the president-elect? Did he lie under oath to congress and to law enforcement? Did he plead guilty?


The only thing he did was plead guilty under coercion from a false investigation......... even the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn under false pretenses stated that they did not believe he was lying.

Bullshit.


If the current reports are true....you are about to get bitch slapped by the Durham investigation......and the lovers at the FBI, comey, brennan are maybe going to actually see the inside of a courtroom...
Now that would be a perfect example of a witch hunt. The only thing that they did was to expose Trump for the grifter that he is.
 

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