Venezuela: What Is Trump To Do??

[bripat9643]

Leave them the hell alone to work it out for themselves.

The only thing they are working out is how long it will take everyone to starve to death.

Not my monkey,not my circus

In other words, you got yours, so fuck them if they all starve.

 

[Natural Citizen]

As per almost always on international affairs...neocons are clueless and Dr. Paul is dead right.

eeyep.

 

[JWBooth]

Leave them the hell alone to work it out for themselves.

The only thing they are working out is how long it will take everyone to starve to death.

Not my monkey,not my circus

In other words, you got yours, so fuck them if they all starve.

Nooooooooo.
They elected their problem, the US government is not empowered by God to determine the fate of other countries and regime change done by the US never works out well.

 

[bripat9643]

Leave them the hell alone to work it out for themselves.

The only thing they are working out is how long it will take everyone to starve to death.

Not my monkey,not my circus

In other words, you got yours, so fuck them if they all starve.

Nooooooooo.
They elected their problem, the US government is not empowered by God to determine the fate of other countries and regime change done by the US never works out well.

Those elections were rigged. The elections Saddam held were more honest.

You just can't stand knowing that another socialist Utopia is hated by the people who live in it.

 

[JWBooth]

You just can't stand knowing that another socialist Utopia is hated by the people who live in it.

You know better than that shit.

 

[bripat9643]

You just can't stand knowing that another socialist Utopia is hated by the people who live in it.

You know better than that shit.

That's the truth, isn't it?

 

[JWBooth]

Again, you know better.

 

[Lesh]

Both sides dislike us,,,,,There are no good guys

Then it is up to us to set the conditions to obtain the best outcome. Think the Trump Administration is up to it?

 

[JWBooth]

“Imagine what would happen to an American political leader actively attempting to recruit the US military to his side to overthrow the US government and using foreign funding to do so.” Daniel McAdams

 

[Marion Morrison]

So we should go to war for oil?

And this is why idiots should never be incharge of foreign policy

You're damn right you shouldn't! You just keep shilling here on USMB and things will be just fine.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Trump's buddy Putin is backing the "socialist" dictator Maduro that Trump has been verbally attacking for a while.

In fact they are reportedly sending "mercenaries" to back that corrupt POS.

Russian mercenaries reportedly in Venezuela to protect Maduro

Will Trump stand up to Putin here...in our own part of the world?

The Monroe Doctrine has been misused in the past to advance big business interests in Central and South America. Preventing a foreign government from getting involved in this way would be a different story and an appropriate use of the MD.

We live in interesting times folks

Maduro can't trust his own guards to protect his life. That shows what a thriving democracy he presides over

Collapse is inevitable, but strong arm tactics can keep him in power for years.

The right thing for the US to do is let him be deposed by his own people, but have an MEU/ARG and hospital ships ready to move in when a new government takes over and asks for help.

Not us along, but as a part of a South/Central American effort to bring order back once the fighting is over.

And how exactly is ANYTHING that goes on in Venezuela (outside of major genocide/starvation) ANY of America's business?

It's more our business than anything that goes on in Syria or Libya or Egypt.

Yeah but. Regime Change is bullshit. Let them figure it out for themselves. For now.

It's not our problem. They are their own sovereign country.

Chavez did forcefully take over one of the American oil company's interests there, though. They built it, and he did a "Gibs me dat."

 

[Marion Morrison]

I have a radical idea: stay the fuck out of it and let the nations of South America deal with it since they will be impacted the most by whatever occurs in that forsaken country.

Do you believe we should have followed that advice in 1941?

No, we didn’t have much choice considering we were attacked by the Empire of Japan and the other Axis Powers declared war upon us. Besides, what’s occurring now in Venezuela is nothing like 1941. I am tired of getting involved in conflicts all over the globe, aren’t you?

We've had a number of countries declare war on us without us responding. Furthermore, we provoked Japan into attacking us by conspiring with Britain and the Netherlands to cutoff their oil supplies.

I don't propose for the US to invade Venezuela, or bomb it as Obama did to Libya. I do propose that we supply weapons to the good guys.

Both sides dislike us,,,,,There are no good guys

Wrong, turd, the Maduro regime are the bad guys. They are the reason people are starving. They are the ones who hold crooked elections. Whether the other side likes us is not a factor.

That doesn't mean Uncle Sam needs to stick his boot into that dog turd.

 

[martybegan]

Trump's buddy Putin is backing the "socialist" dictator Maduro that Trump has been verbally attacking for a while.

In fact they are reportedly sending "mercenaries" to back that corrupt POS.

Russian mercenaries reportedly in Venezuela to protect Maduro

Will Trump stand up to Putin here...in our own part of the world?

The Monroe Doctrine has been misused in the past to advance big business interests in Central and South America. Preventing a foreign government from getting involved in this way would be a different story and an appropriate use of the MD.

We live in interesting times folks

Maduro can't trust his own guards to protect his life. That shows what a thriving democracy he presides over

Collapse is inevitable, but strong arm tactics can keep him in power for years.

The right thing for the US to do is let him be deposed by his own people, but have an MEU/ARG and hospital ships ready to move in when a new government takes over and asks for help.

Not us along, but as a part of a South/Central American effort to bring order back once the fighting is over.

And how exactly is ANYTHING that goes on in Venezuela (outside of major genocide/starvation) ANY of America's business?

Let's see, it impacts the world oil market, which impacts our interests, it gives places like China and Russia an opportunity to expand their influence in the region, which impacts our interests, it's destabilizing to other countries in the area, which impacts our interests.

Plus if it keeps getting worse we could see the same level of piracy seen off the coast of somalia, which impacts our interests.

 

[martybegan]

Trump's buddy Putin is backing the "socialist" dictator Maduro that Trump has been verbally attacking for a while.

In fact they are reportedly sending "mercenaries" to back that corrupt POS.

Russian mercenaries reportedly in Venezuela to protect Maduro

Will Trump stand up to Putin here...in our own part of the world?

The Monroe Doctrine has been misused in the past to advance big business interests in Central and South America. Preventing a foreign government from getting involved in this way would be a different story and an appropriate use of the MD.

We live in interesting times folks

Maduro can't trust his own guards to protect his life. That shows what a thriving democracy he presides over

Collapse is inevitable, but strong arm tactics can keep him in power for years.

The right thing for the US to do is let him be deposed by his own people, but have an MEU/ARG and hospital ships ready to move in when a new government takes over and asks for help.

Not us along, but as a part of a South/Central American effort to bring order back once the fighting is over.

And how exactly is ANYTHING that goes on in Venezuela (outside of major genocide/starvation) ANY of America's business?

It's more our business than anything that goes on in Syria or Libya or Egypt.

Although Syria is also close to oil resources, and Syria is a proxy for Iran, which is our main problem in the area.

 

[martybegan]

Trump's buddy Putin is backing the "socialist" dictator Maduro that Trump has been verbally attacking for a while.

In fact they are reportedly sending "mercenaries" to back that corrupt POS.

Russian mercenaries reportedly in Venezuela to protect Maduro

Will Trump stand up to Putin here...in our own part of the world?

The Monroe Doctrine has been misused in the past to advance big business interests in Central and South America. Preventing a foreign government from getting involved in this way would be a different story and an appropriate use of the MD.

We live in interesting times folks

Maduro can't trust his own guards to protect his life. That shows what a thriving democracy he presides over

Collapse is inevitable, but strong arm tactics can keep him in power for years.

The right thing for the US to do is let him be deposed by his own people, but have an MEU/ARG and hospital ships ready to move in when a new government takes over and asks for help.

Not us along, but as a part of a South/Central American effort to bring order back once the fighting is over.

And how exactly is ANYTHING that goes on in Venezuela (outside of major genocide/starvation) ANY of America's business?

It's more our business than anything that goes on in Syria or Libya or Egypt.

Yeah but. Regime Change is bullshit. Let them figure it out for themselves. For now.

It's not our problem. They are their own sovereign country.

Chavez did forcefully take over one of the American oil company's interests there, though. They built it, and he did a "Gibs me dat."

As I stated above, we should only move in to help if a new government comes to power, taking over from Maduro, and asks for help.

And we should only help if we can get other South/Central American countries to join in, under the banner of the OAS.

 

[McRocket]

Trump's buddy Putin is backing the "socialist" dictator Maduro that Trump has been verbally attacking for a while.

In fact they are reportedly sending "mercenaries" to back that corrupt POS.

Russian mercenaries reportedly in Venezuela to protect Maduro

Will Trump stand up to Putin here...in our own part of the world?

The Monroe Doctrine has been misused in the past to advance big business interests in Central and South America. Preventing a foreign government from getting involved in this way would be a different story and an appropriate use of the MD.

We live in interesting times folks

Maduro can't trust his own guards to protect his life. That shows what a thriving democracy he presides over

Collapse is inevitable, but strong arm tactics can keep him in power for years.

The right thing for the US to do is let him be deposed by his own people, but have an MEU/ARG and hospital ships ready to move in when a new government takes over and asks for help.

Not us along, but as a part of a South/Central American effort to bring order back once the fighting is over.

And how exactly is ANYTHING that goes on in Venezuela (outside of major genocide/starvation) ANY of America's business?

Let's see, it impacts the world oil market, which impacts our interests, it gives places like China and Russia an opportunity to expand their influence in the region, which impacts our interests, it's destabilizing to other countries in the area, which impacts our interests.

Plus if it keeps getting worse we could see the same level of piracy seen off the coast of somalia, which impacts our interests.

I did not ask what your neocon goals were...they all fall under the 'well duh' category.

And that does not make it America's business. That just makes it America's interest. BIG difference.

I realize you have problems with these simple questions, but:

Does America have the right - under international law - to militarily intervene in Venezuela's internal affairs (when there is no mass starvation or genocide)?

Yes or no?

 

[martybegan]

Trump's buddy Putin is backing the "socialist" dictator Maduro that Trump has been verbally attacking for a while.

In fact they are reportedly sending "mercenaries" to back that corrupt POS.

Russian mercenaries reportedly in Venezuela to protect Maduro

Will Trump stand up to Putin here...in our own part of the world?

The Monroe Doctrine has been misused in the past to advance big business interests in Central and South America. Preventing a foreign government from getting involved in this way would be a different story and an appropriate use of the MD.

We live in interesting times folks

Maduro can't trust his own guards to protect his life. That shows what a thriving democracy he presides over

Collapse is inevitable, but strong arm tactics can keep him in power for years.

The right thing for the US to do is let him be deposed by his own people, but have an MEU/ARG and hospital ships ready to move in when a new government takes over and asks for help.

Not us along, but as a part of a South/Central American effort to bring order back once the fighting is over.

And how exactly is ANYTHING that goes on in Venezuela (outside of major genocide/starvation) ANY of America's business?

Let's see, it impacts the world oil market, which impacts our interests, it gives places like China and Russia an opportunity to expand their influence in the region, which impacts our interests, it's destabilizing to other countries in the area, which impacts our interests.

Plus if it keeps getting worse we could see the same level of piracy seen off the coast of somalia, which impacts our interests.

I did not ask what your neocon goals were...they all fall under the 'well duh' category.

And that does not make it America's business. That just makes it America's interest. BIG difference.

I realize you have problems with these simple questions, but:

Does America have the right - under international law - to militarily intervene in Venezuela's internal affairs (when there is no mass starvation or genocide)?

Yes or no?

Please actually read my post. I have said we go in if invited by whatever government takes over after Maduro is deposed.

In that case, YES, we have the right and the responsibility to send aid and try to get them back on their feet again.

and something being out interest MAKES it our business. Sorry, it isn't the 1800's anymore when we can hide behind our Oceans and tell the rest of the world good luck.

 

[McRocket]

Maduro can't trust his own guards to protect his life. That shows what a thriving democracy he presides over

Collapse is inevitable, but strong arm tactics can keep him in power for years.

The right thing for the US to do is let him be deposed by his own people, but have an MEU/ARG and hospital ships ready to move in when a new government takes over and asks for help.

Not us along, but as a part of a South/Central American effort to bring order back once the fighting is over.

And how exactly is ANYTHING that goes on in Venezuela (outside of major genocide/starvation) ANY of America's business?

Let's see, it impacts the world oil market, which impacts our interests, it gives places like China and Russia an opportunity to expand their influence in the region, which impacts our interests, it's destabilizing to other countries in the area, which impacts our interests.

Plus if it keeps getting worse we could see the same level of piracy seen off the coast of somalia, which impacts our interests.

I did not ask what your neocon goals were...they all fall under the 'well duh' category.

And that does not make it America's business. That just makes it America's interest. BIG difference.

I realize you have problems with these simple questions, but:

Does America have the right - under international law - to militarily intervene in Venezuela's internal affairs (when there is no mass starvation or genocide)?

Yes or no?

Please actually read my post. I have said we go in if invited by whatever government takes over after Maduro is deposed.

In that case, YES, we have the right and the responsibility to send aid and try to get them back on their feet again.

Juan Guaidó has won no election. He is NOT the legal leader of Venezuela (even though Trump says he is).

America has ZERO right under international law to send in troops to help him.

Show me a link to unbiased, factual proof that I am wrong.

You cannot.

and something being out interest MAKES it our business.

LOL...the neocon credo.

So ANYTHING that someone else is interested in - MAKES it their business?

Okay...so it's China's business everything America does? It's Iran's business everything America does.

And why stop at countries?

So if I am interested in my neighbor's wife - that automatically makes whatever she does my business?

Interesting arrogance you neocons have.

 

[Rustic]

Trump's buddy Putin is backing the "socialist" dictator Maduro that Trump has been verbally attacking for a while.

In fact they are reportedly sending "mercenaries" to back that corrupt POS.

Russian mercenaries reportedly in Venezuela to protect Maduro

Will Trump stand up to Putin here...in our own part of the world?

The Monroe Doctrine has been misused in the past to advance big business interests in Central and South America. Preventing a foreign government from getting involved in this way would be a different story and an appropriate use of the MD.

We live in interesting times folks

Let them fuckers destroy each other...

 

[martybegan]

Collapse is inevitable, but strong arm tactics can keep him in power for years.

The right thing for the US to do is let him be deposed by his own people, but have an MEU/ARG and hospital ships ready to move in when a new government takes over and asks for help.

Not us along, but as a part of a South/Central American effort to bring order back once the fighting is over.

And how exactly is ANYTHING that goes on in Venezuela (outside of major genocide/starvation) ANY of America's business?

Let's see, it impacts the world oil market, which impacts our interests, it gives places like China and Russia an opportunity to expand their influence in the region, which impacts our interests, it's destabilizing to other countries in the area, which impacts our interests.

Plus if it keeps getting worse we could see the same level of piracy seen off the coast of somalia, which impacts our interests.

I did not ask what your neocon goals were...they all fall under the 'well duh' category.

And that does not make it America's business. That just makes it America's interest. BIG difference.

I realize you have problems with these simple questions, but:

Does America have the right - under international law - to militarily intervene in Venezuela's internal affairs (when there is no mass starvation or genocide)?

Yes or no?

Please actually read my post. I have said we go in if invited by whatever government takes over after Maduro is deposed.

In that case, YES, we have the right and the responsibility to send aid and try to get them back on their feet again.

Juan Guaidó has won no election. He is NOT the legal leader of Venezuela (even though Trump says he is).

America has ZERO right under international law to send in troops to help him.

Show me a link to unbiased, factual proof that I am wrong.

You cannot.

and something being out interest MAKES it our business.

LOL...the neocon credo.

So ANYTHING that someone else is interested in - MAKES it their business?

Okay...so it's China's business everything America does? It's Iran's business everything America does.

And why stop at countries?

So if I am interested in my neighbor's wife - that automatically makes whatever she does my business?

Interesting arrogance you neocons have.

He is the rightful leader of the National Assembly, the legitimate legislative branch of the Venezuelan government that was suppressed by a sham "Constitutional Assembly" when Maduro's party lost power in said National Assembly. Of course the Maduro packed Supreme Court said it was all legal.

The only people supporting Maduro are leftists and authoritarians, good company you are keeping there.