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In italy they are practicing obama-style thinning of the tribe by giving grandma a pill to make her comfortable till she diesPlus Italy has the euro version of Medicare For All that America is not yet cursed with
There might be hope. My Dem gov, who was one of the first to close all schools, bars and restaurants state-wide, still has not pulled the trigger on a "stay at home" plan. Nor should this happen, as cases are most confined to urban areas.
This is a good sign that maybe even thick-headed Dems are seeing that the economic devastation is not worth the "safety measures"
uh-huh - - - that's right - 'cause there aren't any cars or mass transit that will transport infected persons from one part of a state to another part of the state or another state altogether ...
that germ can stay active & alive & very much contagious on surfaces up to 3 days. soooooooooooo............ someone who coughed spraying spittle or sneezed snot on - say a restaurant chair or any given door handle or a corner of the bar days b4 can still pick that germ up, bringing it home or work, exposing others.
Yep.
Still not worth entirely crashing our economy for.
After this 15 days is up, believe me--the majority of Americans will agree.
is it worth gramma dying?
and thats with a nationwide quarantine
with or without the virus will reach everyone in time
as a short-term measure I understand the need to stay home
but after a few weeks it has to stop
The “Bible thumper?”Noone is denied here, if they are sick. But here is Italy for you-Plus Italy has the euro version of Medicare For All that America is not yet cursed with
You mean people can actually GET into a hospital, even if they are poor?
Medical personnel works inside one of the emergency structures that were set up to ease procedures outside the hospital of Brescia, Northern Italy, Tuesday, March 10, 2020. For most people, the new coronavirus causes only mild or moderate symptoms, such as fever and cough. For some, especially older adults and people with existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia. (Claudio Furlan/LaPresse via AP)(Claudio Furlan/LaPresse/AP)
weeks ago, according to yer president - 'anybody who wants a test can have one ' & that was a lie.
weeks ago, according to the bible thumper - ' millions of tests will be available at the end of the week' that was a lie.
Is it faith in God that chaps your ass?
wow
i think that if anyone put out incorrect information it was the result of chaos not intentional deceit
And its overrun with wuhan chineseAlso....they have a huge Chinese migrant population.......due to their allowing China to buy up real estate in their country.....the region where the outbreak is the worst is where the Chinese community lived.....and they frequently travel back and forth from China.....from the very area where the virus outbreak occurred.......
Link?
Iran And Italy Are Paying A Hefty Price For Ties With Communist China
The reason these two countries are suffering the most outside China is mainly due to their close ties with Beijing, primarily through the “One Belt and One Road” (OBOR) initiative.
OBOR is Beijing’s foreign policy play disguised as infrastructure investment. Here’s how it works: China and country X agree to do an infrastructure project in country X. Country X has to borrow from a Chinese bank to finance the project. A contract is always awarded to Chinese companies, which then bring supplies and Chinese employees to country X to build the project. Clearly, the country that benefits most from this initiative is China.
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As part of the deal, Italy opened an array of sectors to Chinese investment, from infrastructure to transportation, including letting Chinese state-owned companies hold a stake in four major Italian ports. The deal gave communist China a foothold in the heart of Europe, but Conte downplayed it as “no big deal at all.”
Lombardy and Tuscany are the two regions that saw the most Chinese investment. Nearly a year later, the first Wuhan coronavirus infection case in Italy was reported in the Lombardy region on Feb. 21. Today, Italy is experiencing the worst coronavirus outbreak outside China, and Lombardy is the hardest-hit region in the country.
And the many many other countries that have been working very closely with China as part of this wide-ranging infrastructure program? You may be mistaking correlation for causation.
Belt and Road: past, present and future
Iran for example? I didn't say it was the only reason...it is one of a few reason Italy is suffering...and shouldn't be used to compare to the U.S. .....
1) 2nd Oldest population in the world. Only Japan has an older population.
2) Heavy smoking population.
3) Poorly functioning government.
4) Poorly functioning single payer healthcare system.
Does politaco have a name and direct quote of the alleged Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) spokesperson?In italy they are practicing obama-style thinning of the tribe by giving grandma a pill to make her comfortable till she diesThere might be hope. My Dem gov, who was one of the first to close all schools, bars and restaurants state-wide, still has not pulled the trigger on a "stay at home" plan. Nor should this happen, as cases are most confined to urban areas.
This is a good sign that maybe even thick-headed Dems are seeing that the economic devastation is not worth the "safety measures"
uh-huh - - - that's right - 'cause there aren't any cars or mass transit that will transport infected persons from one part of a state to another part of the state or another state altogether ...
that germ can stay active & alive & very much contagious on surfaces up to 3 days. soooooooooooo............ someone who coughed spraying spittle or sneezed snot on - say a restaurant chair or any given door handle or a corner of the bar days b4 can still pick that germ up, bringing it home or work, exposing others.
Yep.
Still not worth entirely crashing our economy for.
After this 15 days is up, believe me--the majority of Americans will agree.
is it worth gramma dying?
and thats with a nationwide quarantine
with or without the virus will reach everyone in time
as a short-term measure I understand the need to stay home
but after a few weeks it has to stop
if we had the numbers that italy has - & we are on track to do that ... no cadillac insurance plan is gonna save you. btw -
White House mulling reopening of ObamaCare enrollment: reports
By Marina Pitofsky - 03/21/20 08:56 PM EDT
White House mulling reopening of ObamaCare enrollment: reports
As a true believer in science tell us when an unborn child becomes humanThe “Bible thumper?”Noone is denied here, if they are sick. But here is Italy for you-Plus Italy has the euro version of Medicare For All that America is not yet cursed with
You mean people can actually GET into a hospital, even if they are poor?
Medical personnel works inside one of the emergency structures that were set up to ease procedures outside the hospital of Brescia, Northern Italy, Tuesday, March 10, 2020. For most people, the new coronavirus causes only mild or moderate symptoms, such as fever and cough. For some, especially older adults and people with existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia. (Claudio Furlan/LaPresse via AP)(Claudio Furlan/LaPresse/AP)
weeks ago, according to yer president - 'anybody who wants a test can have one ' & that was a lie.
weeks ago, according to the bible thumper - ' millions of tests will be available at the end of the week' that was a lie.
Is it faith in God that chaps your ass?
wow
i think that if anyone put out incorrect information it was the result of chaos not intentional deceit
first of all - i am a christian. but i also believe in science. real hard core factual science.
ya - the buble thumper - when he was governor of indiana wrote an op/ed declaring that tobacco & its use didn't kill.... & when it had an HIV outbreak, he closed down the one & only planned parenthood clinic that tested for the disease & when the EXPERTS were pleading for a needle exchange program to be implemented because the vast majority of the cases were from IV drug use - pence refused & instead wanted to 'pray on it'. when the numbers were still rising depite his draconian answer to combat it - he finally relented, signing an order for needle exchange & the numvbers immediatley started to go down.
Made in Italy, by Chinese workers | Pictures | ReutersAnd its overrun with wuhan chineseLink?
Iran And Italy Are Paying A Hefty Price For Ties With Communist China
The reason these two countries are suffering the most outside China is mainly due to their close ties with Beijing, primarily through the “One Belt and One Road” (OBOR) initiative.
OBOR is Beijing’s foreign policy play disguised as infrastructure investment. Here’s how it works: China and country X agree to do an infrastructure project in country X. Country X has to borrow from a Chinese bank to finance the project. A contract is always awarded to Chinese companies, which then bring supplies and Chinese employees to country X to build the project. Clearly, the country that benefits most from this initiative is China.
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As part of the deal, Italy opened an array of sectors to Chinese investment, from infrastructure to transportation, including letting Chinese state-owned companies hold a stake in four major Italian ports. The deal gave communist China a foothold in the heart of Europe, but Conte downplayed it as “no big deal at all.”
Lombardy and Tuscany are the two regions that saw the most Chinese investment. Nearly a year later, the first Wuhan coronavirus infection case in Italy was reported in the Lombardy region on Feb. 21. Today, Italy is experiencing the worst coronavirus outbreak outside China, and Lombardy is the hardest-hit region in the country.
And the many many other countries that have been working very closely with China as part of this wide-ranging infrastructure program? You may be mistaking correlation for causation.
Belt and Road: past, present and future
Iran for example? I didn't say it was the only reason...it is one of a few reason Italy is suffering...and shouldn't be used to compare to the U.S. .....
1) 2nd Oldest population in the world. Only Japan has an older population.
2) Heavy smoking population.
3) Poorly functioning government.
4) Poorly functioning single payer healthcare system.
Proof?
I thought that Ziemer did, the guy you accused of being fired... Don’t believe everything you read.-As 2aguy proved, he did not fire the pandemic team, he actually strengthened our response teams through reorganization.How did Trump "Crash the economy" Honey Boo Boo?
He ignored this crisis for months, called it a hoax, gave stupid orders, and dismantled the agencies to deal with it.
click on times to hear the actual audio. He never declared it a hoax.
He never called the cirus a hoax. Never.-
Rev Transcription Editor
Donald Trump: (05:44)
We are stronger, we are better, but while we are building a great future, the radical left Democrats in Washington are trying to burn it all down. They have spent the last three years, and I can even go further than that, three years since the election, but we go before the election, working to erase your ballots and overthrow our democracy. But with your help, we have exposed the far left’s corruption and defeated their sinister schemes and let’s see what happens in the coming months. Let’s watch. Let’s just watch. Very dishonest people. Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that right? Coronavirus, they’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, “How’s President Trump doing?” They go, “Oh, not good, not good.” They have no clue. They don’t have any clue. They can’t even count their votes in Iowa. They can’t even count. No, they can’t. They can’t count their votes.
Donald Trump: (07:07)
One of my people came up to me and said, “Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.” That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was not a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They’d been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning. They lost. It’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax.
December 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization.
January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus.
January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus.
January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China.
January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles.
January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus.
January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response.
January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test.
January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.
January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the president.
January 31: The Trump Administration:
January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U.S. airports.
- Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
- Announced Chinese travel restrictions.
- Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.
February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government.
February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.
February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs.
February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington.
February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine.
I ran the White House pandemic office. Trump closed it.
The federal government is moving too slowly, due to a lack of leadership.
ByBeth Cameron
Beth Cameron is vice president for global biological policy and programs at the Nuclear Threat Initiative. She previously served as the senior director for global health security and biodefense on the White House National Security Council.
March 13, 2020 at 9:32 AM EDT
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...0de09c-6491-11ea-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html
Development of the Global Health Security Strategy was directed in the Fiscal Year 2018 Omnibus and the Joint Explanatory Statement notes: The strategy shall: (i) detail the role and responsibility of each relevant agency of the United States Government in implementing the strategy; (ii) include multi-year cost estimates for opera- tions and programs necessary to implement such strategy, disaggregated by agency; (iii) describe the mech- anisms for coordination and oversight of such programs; (iv) review lessons learned from previous efforts to promote global health security; and (v) identify any obstacles to the implementation of such strategy in policy and legislation, and include specific recommendations for addressing such obstacles.
2 https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/NSS-Final-12-18-2017-0905.pdf.
3 https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/National-Biodefense-Strategy.pdf.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/GHSS.pdf
Statement from the Press Secretary on the Global Health Security Agenda | The White House
Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response - Wikipedia
In 2019, Kadlec supported passage of the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness and Advancing Innovation Act (PAHPAIA), writing in July 2019, "PAHPAIA increases the budget authorization and provides ten-year funding for product development. We know next-generation medical countermeasures aren’t developed overnight – in fact, getting a product across the finish line takes many years. Multi-year funding helps BARDA continue building the strong public-private partnerships needed to spur innovation and provide the private sector with the stability needed to produce potentially lifesaving medical countermeasures."[9][10].
Statement from the President on the National Biodefense Strategy and National Security Presidential Memorandum | The White House
Trump administration outlines new biodefense approach
donny dismantled the response team in 2018, citing he didn't want people just sitting around. part of that entailed having people involved on a global scale especially when most pandemics start outside the united states. what we have now in place, by donny's own words - is much too inadequate for the large scale fight we are having against this thing.
Lying partisan hacks are the worst. Why do you hate America so much?
And what would this “pandemic response team” do any differently then we have done or that Europe has done?
All CDC “plans” just track the new virus and keep the public informed while they work on getting a vaccine made.
Iran for example? I didn't say it was the only reason...it is one of a few reason Italy is suffering...and shouldn't be used to compare to the U.S. .....
1) 2nd Oldest population in the world. Only Japan has an older population.
2) Heavy smoking population.
3) Poorly functioning government.
4) Poorly functioning single payer healthcare system.
Lying partisan hacks are the worst. Why do you hate America so much?
I'm not the one who dropped the ball on this virus we all knew was coming three months ago.
Iran for example? I didn't say it was the only reason...it is one of a few reason Italy is suffering...and shouldn't be used to compare to the U.S. .....
1) 2nd Oldest population in the world. Only Japan has an older population.
2) Heavy smoking population.
3) Poorly functioning government.
4) Poorly functioning single payer healthcare system.
So when we are worse off than Italy, who are you going to blame then?
Neither was Trump when he declared a public national emergency and banned travel from China in Jan 31st. Joe Biden called him a xenophobe while Democrats pushed a bogus impeachment. Meanwhile the President was already getting updates from the CDC and taking action in January. If Biden was in charge we'd look like Italy right now.
And what would this “pandemic response team” do any differently then we have done or that Europe has done?
All CDC “plans” just track the new virus and keep the public informed while they work on getting a vaccine made.
Well, for starters, they'd have come up with a plan to screen people at the airports.
They wouldn't have rejected a test that the WHO had developed.
They wouldn't have alienated not only the Chinese but our own allies in the EU.
Plus Italy has the euro version of Medicare For All that America is not yet cursed with
You mean people can actually GET into a hospital, even if they are poor?
We are six times the size of Italy. We have half the number of cases they do. They have had 13 times the number of deaths we do. And that’s with their socialist healthcare system where you have this laughable idea everybody’s getting to see a doctor.They can get medical care in America also
but thanks to the private sector we have better hospitals
also italy is chinas first bitch in europe and has a large number of chinese living and working there
Again, we are going to surpass Italy in the number of Covid-19 cases pretty soon. Up to 26K this morning.
There is no virus ‘panic crowd’ – that’s a lie.Not only is Italy's population significantly older, sicker and more dense than ours in the US, but the way they report death in hospitals is different than ours.
Except in isolated, urban areas where the virus is very bad, America needs to get back to work and school, and we need to do it SOON. Before the economy cannot be fixed!
But Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.
“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.
Why have so many coronavirus patients died in Italy?
How about Italian citizens first, migrants and illegal aliens after?Plus Italy has the euro version of Medicare For All that America is not yet cursed with
You mean people can actually GET into a hospital, even if they are poor?
No
Israeli doctor in Italy: We no longer help those over 60
