Voter I.D. law supresses the vote...that is why they had record vote turnout in Wisconsin, right?

[Redfish]

are you trying to point out that because voter ID might make a little difference that its main purpose is to stop legitimate voters from voting?
no. Its going to stop the dead, or the illegal or the double voters. but, that would be fraud anyway so I know you would agree that those people should be stopped.

Yes, that is the point I am making

Two percent of the vote can swing an election

And in spite of rightwing propaganda, dead people and illegals do not vote and there is no double voting

It has been proven in many precincts in many states that dead people and illegals have voted and that some people have voted in more than one precinct.

But for the last time, who in the USA does not have some form of ID? Who has been prevented from voting by voter ID laws? Give us some specifics or STFU.

What has been proven is dead people remain on the voting rolls after they have died. They are not too diligent in purging the records

Actual cases of voting are usually found to have been clerical errors

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

5%--------------? I call bullshit. Prove it.

I gave you 4 questions you only answered 2 of them. (with bullshit answers). Care to try again?

 

[Redfish]

are you trying to point out that because voter ID might make a little difference that its main purpose is to stop legitimate voters from voting?
no. Its going to stop the dead, or the illegal or the double voters. but, that would be fraud anyway so I know you would agree that those people should be stopped.

Yes, that is the point I am making

Two percent of the vote can swing an election

And in spite of rightwing propaganda, dead people and illegals do not vote and there is no double voting

It has been proven in many precincts in many states that dead people and illegals have voted and that some people have voted in more than one precinct.

But for the last time, who in the USA does not have some form of ID? Who has been prevented from voting by voter ID laws? Give us some specifics or STFU.

What has been proven is dead people remain on the voting rolls after they have died. They are not too diligent in purging the records

Actual cases of voting are usually found to have been clerical errors

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, that is the point I am making

Two percent of the vote can swing an election

And in spite of rightwing propaganda, dead people and illegals do not vote and there is no double voting

It has been proven in many precincts in many states that dead people and illegals have voted and that some people have voted in more than one precinct.

But for the last time, who in the USA does not have some form of ID? Who has been prevented from voting by voter ID laws? Give us some specifics or STFU.

What has been proven is dead people remain on the voting rolls after they have died. They are not too diligent in purging the records

Actual cases of voting are usually found to have been clerical errors

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, that is the point I am making

Two percent of the vote can swing an election

And in spite of rightwing propaganda, dead people and illegals do not vote and there is no double voting

It has been proven in many precincts in many states that dead people and illegals have voted and that some people have voted in more than one precinct.

But for the last time, who in the USA does not have some form of ID? Who has been prevented from voting by voter ID laws? Give us some specifics or STFU.

What has been proven is dead people remain on the voting rolls after they have died. They are not too diligent in purging the records

Actual cases of voting are usually found to have been clerical errors

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

5%--------------? I call bullshit. Prove it.

I gave you 4 questions you only answered 2 of them. (with bullshit answers). Care to try again?

Eric Holder says recent studies show 25 percent of African Americans, 8 percent of whites lack government-issued photo IDs

Other collections of data do not touch on exactly the same points, but most indicate that African Americans are less likely than whites to hold varied kinds of government-issued IDs, with percentages of blacks without such IDs ranging from nearly 4 percent to more than 26 percent and percentages of whites having such an ID ranging from 1 percent to nearly 14 percent.

We rate Holder’s claim as Mostly True

 

[Maryland Patriot]

It has been proven in many precincts in many states that dead people and illegals have voted and that some people have voted in more than one precinct.

But for the last time, who in the USA does not have some form of ID? Who has been prevented from voting by voter ID laws? Give us some specifics or STFU.

What has been proven is dead people remain on the voting rolls after they have died. They are not too diligent in purging the records

Actual cases of voting are usually found to have been clerical errors

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

It has been proven in many precincts in many states that dead people and illegals have voted and that some people have voted in more than one precinct.

But for the last time, who in the USA does not have some form of ID? Who has been prevented from voting by voter ID laws? Give us some specifics or STFU.

What has been proven is dead people remain on the voting rolls after they have died. They are not too diligent in purging the records

Actual cases of voting are usually found to have been clerical errors

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

5%--------------? I call bullshit. Prove it.

I gave you 4 questions you only answered 2 of them. (with bullshit answers). Care to try again?

Eric Holder says recent studies show 25 percent of African Americans, 8 percent of whites lack government-issued photo IDs

Other collections of data do not touch on exactly the same points, but most indicate that African Americans are less likely than whites to hold varied kinds of government-issued IDs, with percentages of blacks without such IDs ranging from nearly 4 percent to more than 26 percent and percentages of whites having such an ID ranging from 1 percent to nearly 14 percent.

We rate Holder’s claim as Mostly True

I call bullshit on 25% not having ID.
and if they dont, its not like it takes an advanced degree to get one.
Unless he is talking about the 25% of them that are in prison.

 

[rightwinger]

What has been proven is dead people remain on the voting rolls after they have died. They are not too diligent in purging the records

Actual cases of voting are usually found to have been clerical errors

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

What has been proven is dead people remain on the voting rolls after they have died. They are not too diligent in purging the records

Actual cases of voting are usually found to have been clerical errors

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

5%--------------? I call bullshit. Prove it.

I gave you 4 questions you only answered 2 of them. (with bullshit answers). Care to try again?

Eric Holder says recent studies show 25 percent of African Americans, 8 percent of whites lack government-issued photo IDs

Other collections of data do not touch on exactly the same points, but most indicate that African Americans are less likely than whites to hold varied kinds of government-issued IDs, with percentages of blacks without such IDs ranging from nearly 4 percent to more than 26 percent and percentages of whites having such an ID ranging from 1 percent to nearly 14 percent.

We rate Holder’s claim as Mostly True

I call bullshit on 25% not having ID.
and if they dont, its not like it takes an advanced degree to get one.
Unless he is talking about the 25% of them that are in prison.

Show me a credible study that shows otherwise

 

[Correll]

Yes...an excellent point...they have voter I.D. in Wisconsin....and it supressed voters...right? Er....what? What was that you say? There was record voter turn out....? Really? Even with Voter I.D.....? Really?


Never mind........



Another democrat lie put to rest.......by the truth, the facts and reality......which are never the friend of leftwing/regressives......

Record Wisconsin Turnout Destroys Liberal Argument Voter ID Laws Disenfranchise Voters

Senators Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders were able to net big victories this week when they won the Wisconsin presidential primaries for their respective parties, but there was also another big winner of Tuesday night's contests: Voter Identification laws.

Based on reports from the ground in Wisconsin, Tuesday's primary elections pulled in record turnout and the most voter participation since the 1970s.

Wisconsin saw a record breaking voter turnout for the spring primary elections.

Election organizers say this is the largest turnout for a primary race in Wisconsin since 1972. Throughout the state the voter turnout was about 47.5%. In Dane County the estimated turnout was about 66%.

Organizers estimated a 40% turn out before the race started, but Dane County Clerk Scott McDonell says right away they knew they would exceed that estimate.

"Even by one in the afternoon there were places that had 50% turnout already. The state average was predicted at 40% so we were clearly early on out performing those state estimates. We ended up almost closing in on 70 percent turnout which is just unheard of in April," McDonell says.

But wait, what's this?

Across the state, poll workers are reporting larger-than-usual turnouts and long lines at some locales. Though this is the first major election under Wisconsin's voter ID law, there have been few reports of problems at polling places.
And this?

Despite changes in voter ID and registration laws, election organizers say besides slowing down the poll lines, the new rules hardly had an impact on election night.

"A lot of that had to do with just the fact that the fact that you have to show id is that it takes more time. There's nothing you can do about that. It's an extra step for the poll workers," Government Accountability Board Director and General Counsel Kevin Kennedy says.

"That's actually a good sign because that tells us that very few people had problems with photo ID," Kennedy says.
Liberals have been demagoguing for years about how Voter I.D. laws disenfranchise voters. The 2016 Wisconsin presidential primary once again exposed their argument as completely false.


So....left wing regressives.......please Shut the F**k up about voter I.D. laws....you will just have to find another way to cheat....

This is truly ignorant and idiotic; it's minority voters who are adversely affected, not voter turnout overall.

It's not surprising that this sort of stupidity is common to most on the right.

You are being dishonest. If your view was correct, you would have expected a drop in voting, not an increase.

This is strong evidence that you are wrong.

Even if there was an increase in other demographics, if suppression was a real problem, it very well could have masked the other increase.

Or at least made it appear smaller.

Record turnout makes your claim of voter suppression very unlikely at this point.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

5%--------------? I call bullshit. Prove it.

I gave you 4 questions you only answered 2 of them. (with bullshit answers). Care to try again?

Eric Holder says recent studies show 25 percent of African Americans, 8 percent of whites lack government-issued photo IDs

Other collections of data do not touch on exactly the same points, but most indicate that African Americans are less likely than whites to hold varied kinds of government-issued IDs, with percentages of blacks without such IDs ranging from nearly 4 percent to more than 26 percent and percentages of whites having such an ID ranging from 1 percent to nearly 14 percent.

We rate Holder’s claim as Mostly True

I call bullshit on 25% not having ID.
and if they dont, its not like it takes an advanced degree to get one.
Unless he is talking about the 25% of them that are in prison.

Show me a credible study that shows otherwise

Why waste my time. nothing will be credible to you. I suspect you are either illegal or collecting money from other peoples paychecks.
If you live in Maryland my guess would be Baltimore or PG county.

 

[Redfish]

It has been proven in many precincts in many states that dead people and illegals have voted and that some people have voted in more than one precinct.

But for the last time, who in the USA does not have some form of ID? Who has been prevented from voting by voter ID laws? Give us some specifics or STFU.

What has been proven is dead people remain on the voting rolls after they have died. They are not too diligent in purging the records

Actual cases of voting are usually found to have been clerical errors

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

Ok, so next election I am going to show up at your polling place, say I am you, sign your name and cast a vote in your name for every candidate that you hate. Then when you show up they will say "you already voted, are you trying to cheat?".

You are so FOS on this. I get a new voter registration card in the mail every year. And we show an ID when we vote, so do the democrats in the precincts in the central city.

Funny, the poor blacks in Louisiana have voter IDs, but he poor blacks in the elite northeast states don't???? Bullshit, total bullshit.

 

[rightwinger]

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

5%--------------? I call bullshit. Prove it.

I gave you 4 questions you only answered 2 of them. (with bullshit answers). Care to try again?

Eric Holder says recent studies show 25 percent of African Americans, 8 percent of whites lack government-issued photo IDs

Other collections of data do not touch on exactly the same points, but most indicate that African Americans are less likely than whites to hold varied kinds of government-issued IDs, with percentages of blacks without such IDs ranging from nearly 4 percent to more than 26 percent and percentages of whites having such an ID ranging from 1 percent to nearly 14 percent.

We rate Holder’s claim as Mostly True

I call bullshit on 25% not having ID.
and if they dont, its not like it takes an advanced degree to get one.
Unless he is talking about the 25% of them that are in prison.

Show me a credible study that shows otherwise

Why waste my time. nothing will be credible to you. I suspect you are either illegal or collecting money from other peoples paychecks.
If you live in Maryland my guess would be Baltimore or PG county.

Cecil County

 

[Redfish]

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

5%--------------? I call bullshit. Prove it.

I gave you 4 questions you only answered 2 of them. (with bullshit answers). Care to try again?

Eric Holder says recent studies show 25 percent of African Americans, 8 percent of whites lack government-issued photo IDs

Other collections of data do not touch on exactly the same points, but most indicate that African Americans are less likely than whites to hold varied kinds of government-issued IDs, with percentages of blacks without such IDs ranging from nearly 4 percent to more than 26 percent and percentages of whites having such an ID ranging from 1 percent to nearly 14 percent.

We rate Holder’s claim as Mostly True

I call bullshit on 25% not having ID.
and if they dont, its not like it takes an advanced degree to get one.
Unless he is talking about the 25% of them that are in prison.

Show me a credible study that shows otherwise

Why waste my time. nothing will be credible to you. I suspect you are either illegal or collecting money from other peoples paychecks.
If you live in Maryland my guess would be Baltimore or PG county.

I doubt if winger is even a human being, he/she/it may be nothing but a dem/lib talking point repeater hooked up to a computer.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

5%--------------? I call bullshit. Prove it.

I gave you 4 questions you only answered 2 of them. (with bullshit answers). Care to try again?

Eric Holder says recent studies show 25 percent of African Americans, 8 percent of whites lack government-issued photo IDs

Other collections of data do not touch on exactly the same points, but most indicate that African Americans are less likely than whites to hold varied kinds of government-issued IDs, with percentages of blacks without such IDs ranging from nearly 4 percent to more than 26 percent and percentages of whites having such an ID ranging from 1 percent to nearly 14 percent.

We rate Holder’s claim as Mostly True

I call bullshit on 25% not having ID.
and if they dont, its not like it takes an advanced degree to get one.
Unless he is talking about the 25% of them that are in prison.

Show me a credible study that shows otherwise

do illegals vote in maryland - Google Search

 

[rightwinger]

What has been proven is dead people remain on the voting rolls after they have died. They are not too diligent in purging the records

Actual cases of voting are usually found to have been clerical errors

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

Ok, so next election I am going to show up at your polling place, say I am you, sign your name and cast a vote in your name for every candidate that you hate. Then when you show up they will say "you already voted, are you trying to cheat?".

You are so FOS on this. I get a new voter registration card in the mail every year. And we show an ID when we vote, so do the democrats in the precincts in the central city.

Funny, the poor blacks in Louisiana have voter IDs, but he poor blacks in the elite northeast states don't???? Bullshit, total bullshit.

That is exactly what I propose you do

Show up at the polls and try to vote under my name

What happens when you give my name and it turns out I have already voted?
What happens when you botch the signature so badly that it is obvious you are a fraud?

Are you willing to go to jail just to cast one vote out of millions?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

Ok, so next election I am going to show up at your polling place, say I am you, sign your name and cast a vote in your name for every candidate that you hate. Then when you show up they will say "you already voted, are you trying to cheat?".

You are so FOS on this. I get a new voter registration card in the mail every year. And we show an ID when we vote, so do the democrats in the precincts in the central city.

Funny, the poor blacks in Louisiana have voter IDs, but he poor blacks in the elite northeast states don't???? Bullshit, total bullshit.

That is exactly what I propose you do

Show up at the polls and try to vote under my name

What happens when you give my name and it turns out I have already voted?
What happens when you botch the signature so badly that it is obvious you are a fraud?

Are you willing to go to jail just to cast one vote out of millions?

How does the polling official know what your signature looks like?

 

[Redfish]

Ok, just for drill lets assume that you are correct.

Now, the questions for you:

1. What US citizens do not have some form of ID?
2. If they have no ID, how did they register to vote?
3. Which people are/were prevented from voting in 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014 specifically because of voter ID laws? Who and where?
4. Why do you want illegals to be allowed to vote in the US elections?


answer all 4 truthfully, or go away forever.

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

Ok, so next election I am going to show up at your polling place, say I am you, sign your name and cast a vote in your name for every candidate that you hate. Then when you show up they will say "you already voted, are you trying to cheat?".

You are so FOS on this. I get a new voter registration card in the mail every year. And we show an ID when we vote, so do the democrats in the precincts in the central city.

Funny, the poor blacks in Louisiana have voter IDs, but he poor blacks in the elite northeast states don't???? Bullshit, total bullshit.

That is exactly what I propose you do

Show up at the polls and try to vote under my name

What happens when you give my name and it turns out I have already voted?
What happens when you botch the signature so badly that it is obvious you are a fraud?

Are you willing to go to jail just to cast one vote out of millions?

I'll get there early, be the first one in line. Then you will be arrested when you show up. Do you really think they compare signatures? are you that dumb?

 

[Redfish]

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

Ok, so next election I am going to show up at your polling place, say I am you, sign your name and cast a vote in your name for every candidate that you hate. Then when you show up they will say "you already voted, are you trying to cheat?".

You are so FOS on this. I get a new voter registration card in the mail every year. And we show an ID when we vote, so do the democrats in the precincts in the central city.

Funny, the poor blacks in Louisiana have voter IDs, but he poor blacks in the elite northeast states don't???? Bullshit, total bullshit.

That is exactly what I propose you do

Show up at the polls and try to vote under my name

What happens when you give my name and it turns out I have already voted?
What happens when you botch the signature so badly that it is obvious you are a fraud?

Are you willing to go to jail just to cast one vote out of millions?

How does the polling official know what your signature looks like?

winger is a left wing moron. intelligent conversation with him is impossible.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

Ok, so next election I am going to show up at your polling place, say I am you, sign your name and cast a vote in your name for every candidate that you hate. Then when you show up they will say "you already voted, are you trying to cheat?".

You are so FOS on this. I get a new voter registration card in the mail every year. And we show an ID when we vote, so do the democrats in the precincts in the central city.

Funny, the poor blacks in Louisiana have voter IDs, but he poor blacks in the elite northeast states don't???? Bullshit, total bullshit.

That is exactly what I propose you do

Show up at the polls and try to vote under my name

What happens when you give my name and it turns out I have already voted?
What happens when you botch the signature so badly that it is obvious you are a fraud?

Are you willing to go to jail just to cast one vote out of millions?

How does the polling official know what your signature looks like?

winger is a left wing moron. intelligent conversation with him is impossible.

obviously.

 

[rightwinger]

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

About five percent of Americans do not have acceptable ID. Mainly because they do not drive, are unable to get birth certificates or the birt certificate has an error
Not only are they registered to vote but have been voting for decades

Nobody wants illegals to vote and there is sparse evidence that they do.

5%--------------? I call bullshit. Prove it.

I gave you 4 questions you only answered 2 of them. (with bullshit answers). Care to try again?

Eric Holder says recent studies show 25 percent of African Americans, 8 percent of whites lack government-issued photo IDs

Other collections of data do not touch on exactly the same points, but most indicate that African Americans are less likely than whites to hold varied kinds of government-issued IDs, with percentages of blacks without such IDs ranging from nearly 4 percent to more than 26 percent and percentages of whites having such an ID ranging from 1 percent to nearly 14 percent.

We rate Holder’s claim as Mostly True

I call bullshit on 25% not having ID.
and if they dont, its not like it takes an advanced degree to get one.
Unless he is talking about the 25% of them that are in prison.

Show me a credible study that shows otherwise

do illegals vote in maryland - Google Search

Here is your "proof"

The group, Virginia Voters Alliance, says that it compared how voters in Frederick County filled out jury duty statements compared with their voting records. The group's investigation found that thousands of people in Frederick County who stated that they are not U.S. citizens on jury duty forms went on to cast votes in elections. Either they failed to tell the truth when they were summoned for jury duty, or they cast illegal votes. Both are crimes. The same group previously foundthat about 40,000 people are registered to vote in both Virginia and Maryland.


So do people lie on jury forms to avoid jury duty?
How are people registered to vote in two states? They move and register in a new state and the old state never gets around to purging their voter lists
Doesn't prove people vote twice

 

[rightwinger]

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

Ok, so next election I am going to show up at your polling place, say I am you, sign your name and cast a vote in your name for every candidate that you hate. Then when you show up they will say "you already voted, are you trying to cheat?".

You are so FOS on this. I get a new voter registration card in the mail every year. And we show an ID when we vote, so do the democrats in the precincts in the central city.

Funny, the poor blacks in Louisiana have voter IDs, but he poor blacks in the elite northeast states don't???? Bullshit, total bullshit.

That is exactly what I propose you do

Show up at the polls and try to vote under my name

What happens when you give my name and it turns out I have already voted?
What happens when you botch the signature so badly that it is obvious you are a fraud?

Are you willing to go to jail just to cast one vote out of millions?

How does the polling official know what your signature looks like?

winger is a left wing moron. intelligent conversation with him is impossible.

I have little difficulty in dealing with you

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Ok, if these non-ID persons have been registered and voting for decades, why not show up at the polling place with their voter registration card?

your entire left wing argument on voter ID is a steaming pile of hot bullshit on a cold day.

I have been voting since the 70s and I have never had a voter ID card or been asked for ID

A signature serves just as well

5%--------------? I call bullshit. Prove it.

I gave you 4 questions you only answered 2 of them. (with bullshit answers). Care to try again?

Eric Holder says recent studies show 25 percent of African Americans, 8 percent of whites lack government-issued photo IDs

Other collections of data do not touch on exactly the same points, but most indicate that African Americans are less likely than whites to hold varied kinds of government-issued IDs, with percentages of blacks without such IDs ranging from nearly 4 percent to more than 26 percent and percentages of whites having such an ID ranging from 1 percent to nearly 14 percent.

We rate Holder’s claim as Mostly True

I call bullshit on 25% not having ID.
and if they dont, its not like it takes an advanced degree to get one.
Unless he is talking about the 25% of them that are in prison.

Show me a credible study that shows otherwise

do illegals vote in maryland - Google Search

Here is your "proof"

The group, Virginia Voters Alliance, says that it compared how voters in Frederick County filled out jury duty statements compared with their voting records. The group's investigation found that thousands of people in Frederick County who stated that they are not U.S. citizens on jury duty forms went on to cast votes in elections. Either they failed to tell the truth when they were summoned for jury duty, or they cast illegal votes. Both are crimes. The same group previously foundthat about 40,000 people are registered to vote in both Virginia and Maryland.


So do people lie on jury forms to avoid jury duty?
How are people registered to vote in two states? They move and register in a new state and the old state never gets around to purging their voter lists
Doesn't prove people vote twice

if they are illegal they are not allowed to vote even once.
stop trying to deflect