Was Anyone Impressed with Chuck Hagel's Performance?

As I said yesterday.. this was planned.. he is a sacrificial lamb.. and while both sides froth over how bad he is... when he most probably gets denied, and the stink continues, Obama will slide in with who he really wants, under the radar

That could be true. Right now, only the true obamabelievers are still clinging to Hagel. The ones who think if obama speaks, it's the word of God. The only thing that doesn't sound exactly as you portray is obama's unshakable belief that he must be obeyed. He is so thin skinned that he can't imagine anyone he picks not being chosen unanimously.

Hagel did very badly, even to liberals.
 
I respect him for not crawling into the sandbox with baby McCain and Graham. I hope he is confirmed. Hagel is not a warmonger.

Like obama, hagel hates America. I don't see how either one is helpful to our country in terms of foreign policy.

I am sure that he does not want your idea of a warmongering America on the loose in the world, gwennie.
 
As I said yesterday.. this was planned.. he is a sacrificial lamb.. and while both sides froth over how bad he is... when he most probably gets denied, and the stink continues, Obama will slide in with who he really wants, under the radar

I hope you're right
 
From what I saw he was pathetic, if he were nominated by a Republican, he'd have been destroyed long ago, but since he's an Obama nominee, liberals defend him blindly. Do they principals?

i was less impressed with mccain who used to say he thought hagel should be his sec'y of state.

but why would facts matter when we're trying to satisfy mccain's bitterness.

What’s it got to do with McCain? this is about Chuck Hagel...You can't get past your MSNBC slap happy support of Obama, if you can support this incompetent then you have no principles, and like I said if Hagel were appointed by a Republican, you'd be all over this board calling him a Jew hater and a gay hater bigot...unbelievable:eusa_eh: Pat Buchanan loves the guy, another strike against him in my book. along with the Iran love thing

I think your sig. says it all. Why don't you just fly the Israel flag over the American flag as they clearly now control the Republican Party. Some of us with a libertarian bent are troubled by Israel's long standing influence.

Let's face it the only reason we went to war in Iraq was because they were a threat to Israel not to us. For that fact, US serviceman lost their lives in Iraq. If McCain were President we would be invading Iran tomorrow and then McCain could go and kiss Netanyahu's ass.

Hagel has the guts to tell the truth and for that he should be nominated.
 
I was really impressed by the Political Theater from the likes of McCain and Graham. Just a lot of innuendo an talking over Hagel's civil attempts to answer.

As usual, the unethical and dishonest Rs will do whatever they must to discredit any one or any thing from the president.
 
That is why the Pubs all opposed Kerry, Luddly, right? Oh, that's right, they didn't.

You need to stop the sweeping generalities if you wish to make a good point.
 
I respect him for not crawling into the sandbox with baby McCain and Graham. I hope he is confirmed. Hagel is not a warmonger.

Like obama, hagel hates America. I don't see how either one is helpful to our country in terms of foreign policy.

Hagel was born in North Platte, Nebraska, the son of Betty (née Dunn) and Charles Dean Hagel. His father was of German heritage, while his mother was of Polish and Irish descent.[4][5] He graduated from St. Bonaventure High School (now Scotus Central Catholic High School) in Columbus, Nebraska, in 1964, the Brown Institute for Radio and Television in 1966, and he earned a BA degree in History from the University of Nebraska at Omaha in 1971.[3][6]

Hagel is a Vietnam War veteran, having served in the United States Army infantry from 1967 to 1968. Holding the rank of Sergeant (E-5), he served as an infantry squad leader in the 9th Infantry Division.[7] Hagel served in the same infantry squad as his younger brother Tom, and they are believed to be the only American siblings to have done so during the Vietnam War.[8] They also ended up saving each other's lives on separate occasions.[8] While serving during the war, he received the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, two Purple Hearts, Army Commendation Medal, and the Combat Infantryman Badge.[9]

After returning from Vietnam, he worked as a radio newscaster and talk show host in Omaha from 1969 to 1971[10] while finishing college on VA assistance under the GI Bill.[11]

In 1971, Hagel was hired as a staffer for Congressman John Y. McCollister (R-NE), serving until 1977. For the next four years, he worked as a lobbyist for Firestone Tire and Rubber Company,[12] and, in 1980, he served as an organizer for the successful presidential campaign of former California Governor Ronald Reagan.[12]

After Reagan's inauguration as President, Hagel was named deputy administrator of the Veterans Administration. In 1982, however, he resigned his post over a disagreement with VA Administrator Robert P. Nimmo, who was intent on cutting funding for VA programs. Nimmo had referred to veterans groups as "greedy", and to Agent Orange as not much worse than a "little teenage acne."[13]

Senate voting record

According to David Boaz, during the Bush administration, Hagel maintained a "traditionally Republican" voting record, receiving "a lifetime rating of 84 percent from the American Conservative Union and consistent A and B grades from the National Taxpayers Union."[21] On the Issues describes Hagel as a "libertarian-leaning conservative."[22] According to Boaz, among his most notable votes, Hagel:

Voted for the Patriot Act[23]
Voted for the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts[24][25]
Voted against No Child Left Behind[26]
Voted against Bush’s Medicare prescription drug bill[27]
Voted against McCain-Feingold[28]

Source: Chuck Hagel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You far righties are great at being on the internet and calling Vietnam Era Veterans communists and making up all kinds of bullshit about them. You obviously don't consider it a sin to bear false witness against a person, you don't even know. The man's record shows he had to do something in his two years of service more than getting wounded twice to get promoted to Sergeant during that amount of time. You can't become a squad leader in the Vietnam War without proving yourself. The man's record shows, he cared more about veterans than his job at the VA.

I don't pretend to know that much about Chuck Hagel, but I don't see anything in his record to indicate he didn't serve America with a clear conscience. I do see evidence that you are talking out of your ass.

So....because some on this board think hagel is bad for this country, that somehow means we are "far righties"??? Well, then I guess those who support hagel are far lefties. And if you can find anywhere in my posts where I have accused veterans of being communists, I'd love to see it.....because it's never happened. hagel is bad for this country....without question. The man performed in a very pathetic and incompetent manner during the hearings, which tells me that is how he will perform in the job of SoD. If he can't answer simple questions, then he has no business being head of that department. It is YOU who is talking out of your ass.
 
I respect him for not crawling into the sandbox with baby McCain and Graham. I hope he is confirmed. Hagel is not a warmonger.

Like obama, hagel hates America. I don't see how either one is helpful to our country in terms of foreign policy.

I am sure that he does not want your idea of a warmongering America on the loose in the world, gwennie.

Hmmm, what exactly is my idea of "warmongering"? Come on Jake, you can do much better than that!
 
i was less impressed with mccain who used to say he thought hagel should be his sec'y of state.

but why would facts matter when we're trying to satisfy mccain's bitterness.

What’s it got to do with McCain? this is about Chuck Hagel...You can't get past your MSNBC slap happy support of Obama, if you can support this incompetent then you have no principles, and like I said if Hagel were appointed by a Republican, you'd be all over this board calling him a Jew hater and a gay hater bigot...unbelievable:eusa_eh: Pat Buchanan loves the guy, another strike against him in my book. along with the Iran love thing

I think your sig. says it all. Why don't you just fly the Israel flag over the American flag as they clearly now control the Republican Party. Some of us with a libertarian bent are troubled by Israel's long standing influence.

Let's face it the only reason we went to war in Iraq was because they were a threat to Israel not to us. For that fact, US serviceman lost their lives in Iraq. If McCain were President we would be invading Iran tomorrow and then McCain could go and kiss Netanyahu's ass.

Hagel has the guts to tell the truth and for that he should be nominated.

Um....no.....that's not at all why America went to war with Iraq. That is paranoid delusion. If libertarians want to be taken seriously at all, you've got to stop with this kind of shit. Frankly, if people who can't stand America (libs, radical islamists, jihadists, screwy libertarians, etc...) would just leave rather than whine incessantly about how terrible it is to live here, things would actually be much better in this country.
 
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From what I saw he was pathetic, if he were nominated by a Republican, he'd have been destroyed long ago, but since he's an Obama nominee, liberals defend him blindly. Do they principals?

Yep pathetic, your typical republican.
Very fitting for a Bush III administration.

LOL, yeah and I bet you think Obama had to Nominate him and it's not his fault at all right?

You are such an idiot. Dems loved the man, and Obama Nominated the man, Exactly because he is not "YOUR TYPICAL Republican".
 
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Was Anyone Impressed with Chuck Hagel's Performance?


Super PAC noise machine gave the GOP Romney over other GOP contenders attacks Hagel


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Yes reasonable and rational Americans of all political stripes were impressed with Chuck Hagel's Performance.

Why you are falling in line behind the Super PAC noise machine that gave the GOP Romney over all other GOP contenders?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/276243-billionaires-super-pacs-policy-cabinet-fights.html

You use the terms 'Republican' and 'Liberals' as opposing factions. Very interesting. Why? Because smaht people know Conservative and GOP have become one, whereas Democrats and Liberals are two distinct groups
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Sorry I don't fall in line with anybody I never liked Hagel as a Senator besides being no friend to Israel he's not competent to run the defense dept. period

What specifically in Chuck Hagel's background makes you conclude he is no friend to Israel? I've heard that statement from others, but no one backed it up with facts.

Do you mean your kind of "facts" or the real facts? There is a difference, ya know. Liberals always want to define what facts are, but it's only their interpretation of the facts that seem to count.
 
The OP sure has it ass backwards!! I was less impressed by Graham and McCain. If Hagel had been a George W. Bush nominee they would have been as sweet as pie to him. Instead they acted like immature ass holes. After all, he is Barack Obama's nominee. So it just wouldn't do to act like civil human beings towards him.

They hate the president so much that they turned on a member of their own party!! The Republican leadership absolutely sucks. They are the reason the party is heading for extinction, along with the cuckoo right wing party members.

I actually feel sorry for normal, intelligent conservatives. They have really been screwed.
 
Like obama, hagel hates America. I don't see how either one is helpful to our country in terms of foreign policy.

I am sure that he does not want your idea of a warmongering America on the loose in the world, gwennie.

Hmmm, what exactly is my idea of "warmongering"? Come on Jake, you can do much better than that!

Denying as you did above that you are infected with neo-conservatism (warmongering R us) will not help you.
 
Sorry I don't fall in line with anybody I never liked Hagel as a Senator besides being no friend to Israel he's not competent to run the defense dept. period

What specifically in Chuck Hagel's background makes you conclude he is no friend to Israel? I've heard that statement from others, but no one backed it up with facts.

Do you mean your kind of "facts" or the real facts? There is a difference, ya know. Liberals always want to define what facts are, but it's only their interpretation of the facts that seem to count.

In other words, you have no facts. In fact, the facts are that Hagel is a friend of Israel.
 
What’s it got to do with McCain? this is about Chuck Hagel...You can't get past your MSNBC slap happy support of Obama, if you can support this incompetent then you have no principles, and like I said if Hagel were appointed by a Republican, you'd be all over this board calling him a Jew hater and a gay hater bigot...unbelievable:eusa_eh: Pat Buchanan loves the guy, another strike against him in my book. along with the Iran love thing

I think your sig. says it all. Why don't you just fly the Israel flag over the American flag as they clearly now control the Republican Party. Some of us with a libertarian bent are troubled by Israel's long standing influence.

Let's face it the only reason we went to war in Iraq was because they were a threat to Israel not to us. For that fact, US serviceman lost their lives in Iraq. If McCain were President we would be invading Iran tomorrow and then McCain could go and kiss Netanyahu's ass.

Hagel has the guts to tell the truth and for that he should be nominated.

Um....no.....that's not at all why America went to war with Iraq. That is paranoid delusion. If libertarians want to be taken seriously at all, you've got to stop with this kind of shit. Frankly, if people who can't stand America (libs, radical islamists, jihadists, screwy libertarians, etc...) would just leave rather than whine incessantly about how terrible it is to live here, things would actually be much better in this country.

And you think we went to war in Iraq for what purpose?.........

Weapons on mass destruction..... come on you could read in overseas papers the nuclear pancake story was a fabrication. Our intelligence was not that bad...... We were doing Israel's bidding end of story. It was Karl Rove's attempt to split the Jewish vote from the Democratic Party and a pipe dream of the neocon's all at the same time.
 
Like I wrote on another thread about Hagel

-Typical weak and stupid Obama's lap dog kind of nominee.-

What else can you expect?
 
Sorry I don't fall in line with anybody I never liked Hagel as a Senator besides being no friend to Israel he's not competent to run the defense dept. period

What specifically in Chuck Hagel's background makes you conclude he is no friend to Israel? I've heard that statement from others, but no one backed it up with facts.

Do you mean your kind of "facts" or the real facts? There is a difference, ya know. Liberals always want to define what facts are, but it's only their interpretation of the facts that seem to count.

Everyone knows it's a Republican tactic to court the Jewish and Christian right vote by labeling people as anti-Israel that they don't like. I asked for specific examples so you can back your case. Just saying things doesn't mean they are true, so where are the examples to prove Hagel is no friend of Israel? You already have the support of the stupid people in America who will believe something just because you say it is so. I want proof, so post where you received that information and proof requires more than somebody running their fool mouth. Proof is specific examples of statements made by Hagel or things he voted on that was against Israel.
 

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