Was JFK the last conservative democrat president?

[Bfgrn]

I doubt Putin has a soul, much like Obama..

Really?

"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue.

"I was able to get a sense of his soul.

"He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship,"
George W. Bush

I like this one better..

Putin said off the record:

"Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits on the board and
then struts around like it won the game."

Source?

 

[Bfgrn]

On the 50th anniversary of the death of JFK, I think the question should be asked. Was JFK the last conservative democrat president?

Jack Kennedy, a 'conservative' President...LOL. Who knew that Medicare, Civil Rights and The War on Poverty were 'conservative' initiatives?

Tell you what Votto, read through JFK's agenda and bring back all the 'conservative' stuff...

A big part of LBJ's Great Society was started by President Kennedy and the New Frontier.

Who was John F. Kennedy? The President who proposed and or planned the following:

Medicare
Civil Rights
The War on Poverty

Economy

The addition of a temporary thirteen-week supplement to jobless benefits,

The extension of aid to the children of unemployed workers,

The redevelopment of distressed areas,

An increase in Social Security payments and the encouragement of earlier retirement,

An increase in the minimum wage and an extension in coverage,

The provision of emergency relief to feed grain farmers, and

The financing of a comprehensive homebuilding and slum clearance program.

Labor

Amendments to the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1961 greatly expanded the FLSA's scope in the retail trade sector and increased the minimum wage

An Executive Order was issued (1962) which provided federal employees with collective bargaining rights.

The Federal Salary Reform Act (1962) established the principle of “maintaining federal white-collar wages at a level with those paid to employees performing similar jobs in private enterprises."

A Postal Service and Federal Employees Salary Act was passed (1962) to reform Federal white-collar statutory salary systems, adjust postal rates, and establish a standard for adjusting annuities under the Civil Service Retirement Act.

The Contract Work Hours and Safety Standards Act (1962) established “standards for hours, overtime compensation, and safety for employees working on federal and federally funded contracts and subcontracts”.

A pilot program was launched to train and place youths in jobs.

Paid overtime was granted to workers on government financed construction jobs for work in excess of 40 hours.

Education

Scholarships and student loans were broadened under existing laws by Kennedy, and new means of specialized aid to education were invented or expanded by the president, including an increase in funds for libraries and school lunches, the provision of funds to teach the deaf, the handicapped, the retarded, and the exceptional child, the authorization of literacy training under Manpower Development, the allocation of President funds to stop dropouts, a quadrupling of vocational education, and working together with schools on delinquency. Altogether, these measures attacked serious educational problems and freed up local funds for use on general construction and salaries.

Various measures were introduced which aided educational television, college dormitories, medical education, and community libraries.

The Educational Television Facilities Act (1962) provided federal grants for new station construction, enabling in-class-room instructional television to operate in thousands of elementary schools, offering primarily religious instruction, music, and arts.

The Health Professions Educational Assistance Act (1963) provided $175 million over a three-year period for matching grants for the construction of facilities for teaching physicians, dentists, nurses, podiatrists, optometrists, pharmacists, and other health professionals. The Act also created a loan program of up to $2000 per annum for students of optometry, dentistry, and medicine.

The Vocational Education Act (1963) significantly increased enrollment in vocational education.

A law was enacted (1961) to encourage and facilitate the training of teachers of the deaf.

The Fulbright-Hays Act of 1961 enlarged the scope of the Fulbright program while extending it geographically.

An estimated one-third of all major New Frontier programs made some form of education a vital element, and the Office of Education called it “the most significant legislative period in its hundred-year history”.

Welfare

Unemployment and welfare benefits were expanded.

In 1961, Social Security benefits were increased by 20% and provision for early retirement was introduced, enabling workers to retire at the age of sixty-two while receiving partial benefits.

The Social Security Amendments of 1961 permitted male workers to elect early retirement age 62, increased minimum benefits, liberalized the benefit payments to aged widow, widower, or surviving dependent parent, and also liberalized eligibility requirements and the retirement test.

The 1962 amendments to the Social Security Act authorized the federal government to reimburse states for the provision of social services.

The School Lunch Act was amended for authority to begin providing free meals in poverty-stricken areas.

A pilot food stamp program was launched (1961), covering six areas in the United States. In 1962, the program was extended to eighteen areas, feeding 240,000 people.

The Self-Employed Individuals Tax Retirement Act of 1962 provided self-employed people with a tax postponement for income set aside in qualified pension plans.

Various school lunch and school milk programs were extended, “enabling 700,000 more children to enjoy a hot school lunch and eighty-five thousand more schools, child care centers, and camps to receive fresh milk”.

ADC was extended to whole families (1961).

Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) replaced the Aid to Dependent Children (ADC) program, as coverage was extended to adults caring for dependent children.

A major revision of the public welfare laws was carried out, with a $300 million modernization which emphasized rehabilitation instead of relief”.

A temporary antirecession supplement to unemployment compensation was introduced.

Food distribution to needy Americans was increased. In January 1961, the first executive order issued by Kennedy mandated that the Department of Agriculture increase the quantity and variety of foods donated for needy households. This executive order represented a shift in the Commodity Distribution Programs’ primary purpose, from surplus disposal to that of providing nutritious foods to low-income households.

Social Security benefits were extended to an additional five million Americans.

The Self-Employed Individuals Tax Retirement Act (1962) provided self-employed people with a tax postponement for income set aside in qualified pension plans.

The Public Welfare Amendments of 1962 provided for greater Federal sharing in the cost of rehabilitative services to applicants, recipients, and persons likely to become applicants for public assistance. It increased the Federal share in the cost of public assistance payments, and permitted the States to combine the various categories into one category. The amendments also made permanent the 1961 amendment which extended aid to dependent children to cover children removed from unsuitable homes.

Federal funds were made available for the payment of foster care costs for AFDC-eligible children who had come into state custody.

An act was approved (1963) which extended for one year the period during which responsibility for the placement and foster care of dependent children, under the program of aid to families with dependent children under Title IV of the Social Security Act.

Federal civil service retirement benefits were index-linked to changes in the Consumer Price Index (1962).

Civil rights

Various measures were carried out by the Kennedy Justice Department to enforce court orders and existing legislation. The Kennedy Administration promoted a Voter Education Project which led to 688,800 between the 1st of April 1962 and the 1st of November 1964, while the Civil Rights Division brought over forty-two suits in four states in order to secure voting rights for blacks. In addition, Kennedy supported the anti-poll tax amendment, which cleared Congress in September 1962 (although it was not ratified until 1964 as the Twenty-fourth Amendment). As noted by one student of black voting in the South, in relation to the attempts by the Kennedy Administration to promote civil rights, “Whereas the Eisenhower lawyers had moved deliberately, the Kennedy-Johnson attorneys pushed the judiciary far more earnestly.”

Executive Order 10925 (issued in 1961) combined the federal employment and government contractor agencies into a unified Committee on Equal Employment opportunity (CEEO). This new committee helped to put an end to segregation and discriminatory employment practices (such as only employing African-Americans for low-skilled jobs) in a number of workplaces across the United States.

Discrimination in public housing was prohibited.

The Interstate Commerce Commission made Jim Crow illegal in interstate transportation, having been put under pressure to do so by both the Freedom Riders and the Department of Justice.

Employment of African-Americans in federal jobs such as in the Post office, the Navy, and the Veterans Administration as a result of the Kennedy Administration’s affirmative action policies).

The Kennedy Administration forbade government contractors from discriminating against any applicant or employee for employment on the grounds of national origin, color, creed, or race.

The Plan for Progress was launched by the CEEO to persuade large employers to adopt equal opportunity practices. 268 firms with 8 million employees had signed on to this by 1964, while a nationwide study covering the period from May 1961 to June 1963 of 103 corporations “showed a Negro gain from 28,940 to 42,738 salaried and from 171,021 to 198,161 hourly paid jobs”.

Housing

The most comprehensive housing and urban renewal program in American history up until that point was carried out, including the first major provisions for middle-income housing, protection of urban open spaces, public mass transit, and private low-income housing.

Omnibus Housing Bill 1961. In March 1961 Kennedy sent Congress a special message, proposing an ambitious and complex housing program to spur the economy, revitalize cities, and provide affordable housing for middle- and low-income families. The bill proposed spending $3.19 billion and placed major emphasis on improving the existing housing supply, instead of on new housing starts, and creating a cabinet-level Department of Housing and Urban Affairs to oversee the programs. The bill also promised to make the Federal Housing Administration a full partner in urban renewal program by authorizing mortgage loans to finance rehabilitation of homes and urban renewal Committee on housing combined programs for housing, mass transportation, and open space land bills into a single bill.

Urban renewal grants were increased from $2 to $4 million, while an additional 100,000 units of public housing were constructed.

Opportunities were provided for coordinated planning of community development: technical assistance to state and local governments.

Under the Kennedy Administration, there was a change of focus from a wrecker ball approach to small rehabilitation projects in order to preserve existing ‘urban textures’.

Funds for housing for the elderly were increased.

Title V of the Housing Act was amended (1961) to make nonfarm rural residents eligible for direct housing loans from the Farmers Home Administration. These changes extended the housing program to towns with a population of up to 2,500.

The Senior Citizens Housing Act (1962) established loans for low-rent apartment projects which were “designed to meet the needs of people age 62 and over”.

Unemployment

To help the unemployed, Kennedy broadened the distribution of surplus food, created a “pilot” Food Stamp program for poor Americans, directed that preference be given to distressed areas in defense contracts, and expanded the services of U.S. Employment Offices.

Social security benefits were extended to each child whose father was unemployed.

The first accelerated public works program for areas of unemployment since the New Deal was launched.

The first full-scale modernization and expansion of the vocational education laws since 1946 were carried out.

Federal grants were provided to the states enabling them to extend the period covered by unemployment benefit.

The Manpower Development and Training Act of 1962 authorized a three-year program aimed at retraining workers displaced by new technology. The bill did not exclude employed workers from benefiting and it authorized a training allowance for unemployed participants. Even though 200,000 people were recruited, there was minimal impact, comparatively. The Area Redevelopment Act, a $394 million spending package passed in 1961, followed a strategy of investing in the private sector to stimulate new job creation. It specifically targeted businesses in urban and rural depressed areas and authorized $4.5 million annually over four years for vocational training programs.

The 1963 amendments to the National Defense Education Act included $731 million in appropriations to states and localities maintaining vocational training programs.

Health

In 1963 Kennedy, who had a mentally ill sister named Rosemary, submitted the nation's first Presidential special message to Congress on mental health issues. Congress quickly passed the Mental Retardation Facilities and Community Mental Health Centers Construction Act (P.L. 88-164), beginning a new era in Federal support for mental health services. The National Institute of Mental Health assumed responsibility for monitoring community mental health centers programs. This measure was a great success as there was a sixfold increase in people using Mental Health facilities.

A Medical Health Bill for the Aged (later known as Medicare) was proposed, but Congress failed to enact it.

The Community Health Services and Facilities Act (1961) increased the amount of funds available for nursing home construction and extended the research and demonstration grant program to other medical facilities.

The Health Services for Agricultural Migratory Workers Act (1962) established “a program of federal grants for family clinics and other health services for migrant workers and their families”.

The first major amendments to the food and drug safety laws since 1938 were carried out. The Drug Amendments of 1962 amended the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (1938) by strengthening the provisions related to the regulation of therapeutic drugs. The Act required evidence that new drugs proposed for marketing were both safe and effective, and required improved manufacturing processes and procedures.

The responsibilities of the Food and Drug Administration were significantly enlarged by the Kefauver-Harris Drug Amendments (1962).

The Vaccination Assistance Act (1962) provided for the vaccination of millions of children against a number of diseases.

The Social Security Act Amendments of 1963 improved medical services for crippled children and established a new project grant program to improve prenatal care for women from low income families with very high risks of mental retardation and other birth defects. Authorizations for grants to the states under the Maternal and Child Health and Crippled Children's programs were also increased and a research grant program was added.

The Mental Retardation Facilities Construction Act of 1963 authorized federal support for the construction of university-affiliated training facilities, mental retardation research centers, and community service facilities for adults and children with mental retardation.

Equal rights for women

The President’s Commission on the Status of Women was an advisory commission established on December 14, 1961, by Kennedy to investigate questions regarding women's equality in education, in the workplace, and under the law. The commission, chaired by Eleanor Roosevelt until her death in 1962, was composed of 26 members including legislators and philanthropists who were active in women's rights issues. The main purpose of the committee was to document and examine employment policies in place for women. The commission's final report, American Woman (also known as the Peterson Report after the Commission's second chair, Esther Peterson), was issued in October 1963 and documented widespread discrimination against women in the workplace. Among the practices addressed by the group were labor laws pertaining to hours and wages, the quality of legal representation for women, the lack of education and counseling for working women, and federal insurance and tax laws that affected women's incomes. Recommendations included affordable child care for all income levels, hiring practices that promoted equal opportunity for women, and paid maternity leave.

In early 1960s, full-time working women were paid on average 59 percent of the earnings of their male counterparts. In order to eliminate some forms of sex-based pay discrimination, Kennedy signed the Equal Pay Act into law on June 10, 1963. During the law's first ten years, 171,000 employees received back pay totaling about 84 million dollars.

Environment

The Clean Air Act (1963) expanded the powers of the federal government in preventing and controlling air pollution.

The first major additions to the National Park System since 1946 were made, which included the preservation of wilderness areas and a fund for future acquisitions.

The water pollution prevention program was doubled.

More aid was provided to localities to combat water pollution.

The Rivers and Harbors Act of 1962 reiterated and expanded upon “previous authorizations for outdoor recreation.”

Crime

Under Kennedy, the first significant package of anti crime bills since 1934 were passed. Amongst the Kennedy Administration's anti crime measures included the Juvenile Delinquency and Youth Offenses Control Act, which was signed into law on September 22, 1961. This program aimed to prevent youth from committing delinquent acts. In 1963, 288 mobsters were brought to trial by a team that was headed by Kennedy's brother, Robert.

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[Lumpy 1]

Really?

"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue.

"I was able to get a sense of his soul.

"He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship,"
George W. Bush

I like this one better..

Putin said off the record:

"Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits on the board and
then struts around like it won the game."

Source?

I just remember it from some fellow member, I thought it was funny, the visual is perfect but the truth questionable...

 

[Bfgrn]

I like this one better..

Putin said off the record:

"Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits on the board and
then struts around like it won the game."

Source?

I just remember it from some fellow member, I thought it was funny, the visual is perfect but the truth questionable...

So you prefer a lie over the truth > BBC News | EUROPE | Bush and Putin: Best of friends

snopes.com: Pigeon Chess

 

[Lumpy 1]

Source?

I just remember it from some fellow member, I thought it was funny, the visual is perfect but the truth questionable...

So you prefer a lie over the truth > BBC News | EUROPE | Bush and Putin: Best of friends

snopes.com: Pigeon Chess

How did I lie...?

..and don't bore me with another quote..

Btw. I know Bush said that..who cares?

 

[Bfgrn]

I just remember it from some fellow member, I thought it was funny, the visual is perfect but the truth questionable...

So you prefer a lie over the truth > BBC News | EUROPE | Bush and Putin: Best of friends

snopes.com: Pigeon Chess

How did I lie...?

..and don't bore me with another quote..

Btw. I know Bush said that..who cares?

Putin never said that. Unable to read???

 

[Lumpy 1]

So you prefer a lie over the truth > BBC News | EUROPE | Bush and Putin: Best of friends

snopes.com: Pigeon Chess

How did I lie...?

..and don't bore me with another quote..

Btw. I know Bush said that..who cares?

Putin never said that. Unable to read???

I said I liked the quote and it was questionable, are you particularly slow today.. Maybe it's time for a quote no one will ever read, even you...

 

[peach174]

President Kennedy was a Conservative Democrat.
He was Anti Communist and was Fiscally responsible.
Conservative Dems are for social programs but you pay for them.
He was the same type of Dem (Blue Dog) that the Dem's of today have gotten rid of.

 

[Lumpy 1]

President Kennedy was a Conservative Democrat.
He was Anti Communist and was Fiscally responsible.
Conservative Dems are for social programs but you pay for them.
He was the same type of Dem (Blue Dog) that the Dem's of today have gotten rid of.

Can you imagine Pelosi and Kennedy working together, especially if he had an "R" next to his name?...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

JFK was a strong progressive president, but was also ironclad on national security like Obama.

bull shit Kennedy was not as liberal as you think. Hell he might have been a classic liberal but not this modern day bull shit that you push.

A tax cut means higher family income and higher business profits and a balanced federal budget.... As the national income grows, the federal government will ultimately end up with more revenues. Prosperity is the real way to balance our budget. By lowering tax rates, by increasing jobs and income, we can expand tax revenues and finally bring our budget into balance.

 

[Peterf]

Was JFK the last Democrat candidate to have a Daddy rich and corrupt enough to buy him the Presidency?

(From an outsider's perspective Kennedy was the most absurdly over-praised of all US presidents. Getting killed a short way in was a smart move, historical reputation wise).

 

[NYcarbineer]

JFK was a strong progressive president, but was also ironclad on national security like Obama.

bull shit Kennedy was not as liberal as you think. Hell he might have been a classic liberal but not this modern day bull shit that you push.

A tax cut means higher family income and higher business profits and a balanced federal budget.... As the national income grows, the federal government will ultimately end up with more revenues. Prosperity is the real way to balance our budget. By lowering tax rates, by increasing jobs and income, we can expand tax revenues and finally bring our budget into balance.

Kennedy's tax cuts didn't balance the budget. Reagan's tax cuts didn't balance the budget. Bush's tax cuts didn't balance the budget.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Democratic Party has moved so far left that JFK couldn't even win the nomination today.

Prove it.

 

[peach174]

The Democratic Party has moved so far left that JFK couldn't even win the nomination today.

Prove it.

How many Blue Dogs are left in the party today?
Very, very few, there is your proof.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

JFK was a strong progressive president, but was also ironclad on national security like Obama.

bull shit Kennedy was not as liberal as you think. Hell he might have been a classic liberal but not this modern day bull shit that you push.

A tax cut means higher family income and higher business profits and a balanced federal budget.... As the national income grows, the federal government will ultimately end up with more revenues. Prosperity is the real way to balance our budget. By lowering tax rates, by increasing jobs and income, we can expand tax revenues and finally bring our budget into balance.

Kennedy's tax cuts didn't balance the budget. Reagan's tax cuts didn't balance the budget. Bush's tax cuts didn't balance the budget.

You're talking bull shit without knowing what you are talking about.
JFK was assassinated before his tax cut policy was voted for in the senate. So duces bag tell me how in the hell could JFK tax cut policy be deemed a failure?

It is quite possible that the tax cut would have died in the Senate, but the political landscape changed strikingly before the Senate could act, when President Kennedy was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/50-years-after-the-house-vote-for-the-kennedy-tax-cut/

And Reagan you're joking of course.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The Democratic Party has moved so far left that JFK couldn't even win the nomination today.

JFK wouldn't be a democrat today.

 

[Smilodonfatalis]

On the 50th anniversary of the death of JFK, I think the question should be asked. Was JFK the last conservative democrat president?

JFK lowered taxes and fought to keep debt low.

President Kennedy on Raising Revenue through Tax Cuts and Economic Growth - YouTube

He even opposed the Fed via Executive order 11110

John F. Kennedy Assassination and Executive Order 11110 (The Real Reason He Was Killed) - YouTube

JFK asked the nation to ask what they could do for their country, rather than what their country could do for them.

So was JFK the last of the Mohicans in terms of conservatives in the democrat party?

No wonder a leftist killed him. They had to get LBJ in there to wage war in Vietnam, and then run of deficits, and pass massive entitlements that would cripple the gold standard. It then forced Nixon to capitulate to the Fed and create a worthless fiat currency, so that they could just print limitless funny money and run trillion dollar deficits.

There is no doubt about it, JFK had to die. May he rest in peace.

He was no more conservative than Obama.

Obama has also cut taxes and fought to decrease the debt.

 

[Smilodonfatalis]

bull shit Kennedy was not as liberal as you think. Hell he might have been a classic liberal but not this modern day bull shit that you push.

Kennedy's tax cuts didn't balance the budget. Reagan's tax cuts didn't balance the budget. Bush's tax cuts didn't balance the budget.

You're talking bull shit without knowing what you are talking about.
JFK was assassinated before his tax cut policy was voted for in the senate. So duces bag tell me how in the hell could JFK tax cut policy be deemed a failure?

It is quite possible that the tax cut would have died in the Senate, but the political landscape changed strikingly before the Senate could act, when President Kennedy was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/50-years-after-the-house-vote-for-the-kennedy-tax-cut/

And Reagan you're joking of course.

It's a well known fact that Reagan's tax cuts increased the debt and of course never balanced the budget.

 

[AceRothstein]

bull shit Kennedy was not as liberal as you think. Hell he might have been a classic liberal but not this modern day bull shit that you push.

Kennedy's tax cuts didn't balance the budget. Reagan's tax cuts didn't balance the budget. Bush's tax cuts didn't balance the budget.

You're talking bull shit without knowing what you are talking about.
JFK was assassinated before his tax cut policy was voted for in the senate. So duces bag tell me how in the hell could JFK tax cut policy be deemed a failure?

It is quite possible that the tax cut would have died in the Senate, but the political landscape changed strikingly before the Senate could act, when President Kennedy was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/50-years-after-the-house-vote-for-the-kennedy-tax-cut/

And Reagan you're joking of course.

As I've said numerous times, dumbest poster around here. Reagan ran up massive deficits.

 

[Freewill]

Kennedy's tax cuts didn't balance the budget. Reagan's tax cuts didn't balance the budget. Bush's tax cuts didn't balance the budget.

You're talking bull shit without knowing what you are talking about.
JFK was assassinated before his tax cut policy was voted for in the senate. So duces bag tell me how in the hell could JFK tax cut policy be deemed a failure?

It is quite possible that the tax cut would have died in the Senate, but the political landscape changed strikingly before the Senate could act, when President Kennedy was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/50-years-after-the-house-vote-for-the-kennedy-tax-cut/

And Reagan you're joking of course.

It's a well known fact that Reagan's tax cuts increased the debt and of course never balanced the budget.

They also ushered in the greatest peacetime expansion of the economy in history. Well worth the cost, very unlike the MASSIVE debt we have accumulated under Obama and the Democrats. We got NOTHING out of their using the Chinese credit card except massive debt.