Flopper
Diamond Member
Trump made only two really good decision. Too bad they came to late. On Feb. 2, he limited travel from China but it exempted U.S. citizens, green card holders, and a list of others. This should have been done weeks earlier when other countries were doing it. Cutting off travel from Europe was recommend by the Pandemic Response team in February but Trump refused. He ended up following their recommendation and travel from Europe was limited nearly a month later on Feb 14th. However the delay allowed over a hundred thousand Europeans, to enter the US. Some of these people were coming from countries that had infections. Scientists believe most of the earliest east coast infections came from Europe.No the death rate for covid is not low, compared to the last 3 months. Over the last week in Oct, deaths topped a thousand a day and averaged nearly 900 a day. What is creating all the warnings from the medical community is the big increase in the number of cases in Oct and the hospitalizations. And no, the increase in cases and hospitalizations are not due to just more testing. Whenever hospitalization across the country go up, deaths follow. Since we just entered the season for increased respiratory infections, it is no likely that this trend will reverse itself anytime soon and we may see the deaths running over 2500 a day within a few months.One thing is for sure Trump will never end covid by ignoring it, opposing preventive measures, and telling people they need to go back work.Part of the reason I think the polls may be way off is from looking at the RCP averages of Florida vs the USA as a whole:
If we look at Florida,
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Florida: Trump vs. Biden
And the US as a whole:
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Biden
We find that Florida and the US had very similar Trump/Biden totals, but over the last month the lead for Biden has all but disappeared in FL while it has stayed the same in the US.
The major difference is that pollsters have been factoring in the early voting data, and as they have done that, Biden's lead has essentially disappeared.
This is "The Model" colliding with reality.
Could the same be true for the US as a whole? we'll have to see. The error bars are far far higher than the modelers want to admit.... probably high enough to make their models useless.
I don't listen to the polls. I predicted this narrowing of numbers for months now because it happens every election. The Republican is always behind and catches up in the end. If anything, the polls should be swinging Biden's way with this new Covid surge.
People are getting tired of this Covid shit. They just want it to end.
Biden is running on a platform to shut more things down and even a stupid Federal requirement to wear a mask.
I suspect Biden lost votes by being a Covid Karen asshole.
Besides, nobody in their right mind would think that the post Covid economy would be better under this Biden clown than under Trump.
The thing that will end a very contagious disease like Covid is a vaccine. We aren't going to fix it by having dumb things like another national shutdown. It sure as hell has not worked in Europe.
In the meantime Trump has mitigated the damage of the virus on a Federal basis by quickly shutting down the country to foreigners and to organize American business to provide testing and treatment and to develop the vaccine.
The death rate from the virus is actually very low now and the total number would not be that high if the Democrat leadership in several big cities hadn't made some serious mistakes several months ago.
Biden is appealing to the fear of the uneducated Moon Bats by blaming the virus on Trump but in reality it was caused by the same people that made his family rich.
When you really listen to what this dishonest Biden is saying about what he would do most of it Trump has already done.
Biden is a lying asshole. A dumb one at that. Only a fool would vote for him.
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Yes, the vaccine is most likely going to end the epidemic in the US but that will not happen anytime soon. A survey done last month revealed 50% of the population is not eager to be vaccinated. They want to wait to see what happens when other get vaccinated. 20% said they would not get vaccinated. Why this is of such concern is elimination of a virus requires a high percentage of vaccinations. Less than 50% may reduce transmission but it will still be with us. To really eliminated the virus we will need a participation rate nearing 70%, about 230 million people and that is not going happen over next 12 months due to Americans hesitancy to vaccinate and the hesitancy of drug companies to vaccinate tens of millions of people with a brand new vaccine. Most likely it will be the end of 2021 before we start to see major improvements. And that is only if things go very well with the vaccine. In most case new vaccines have problems. More people are going to be getting sick and dying and the only way to save lives is follow the CDC guidelines.
Recovery in the economy is going to be slow no matter who becomes president. I expect in 2022, many people are still going to be wearing masks and avoiding crowds. There will still be travel restrictions between most countries because the rest of world will not be able to vaccinate as fast as the US. So don't expect a booming economy next year and probably not in 2022.
BTW Trump did not shutdown the country. The governors did that based on conditions in their state. Trump's contribution was basically verbal attacks telling the governors to open up businesses and schools even though the virus was raging.
United States Coronavirus: 9,686,555 Cases and 238,570 Deaths - Worldometer
Every year about 2.8million Americans die. We are on track for close to the same number this year. 2.1 million at the end of September.
The Democrats killed a shitload of old people in the big cities. Up to 40% of the total deaths.
Trump made a lot of good decisions that prevented many deaths and set up the path for cures and the vaccine.
If you want to blame any body blame the Democrat's mismanagement and Biden's Chicom buddies.
What followed was mostly Trump disagreeing with the scientists and criticizing the actions taken by governors which he agreed was their responsibility. Back in April and May it was debatable as to whether the CDC and Trump were on the same side in the fight.
Trump Is Lying About His Travel Ban on Europe
He’s rewriting history to pretend he acted early.
slate.com