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Something that does not work, is extremely expensive, destroys land by the square miles, requires constant replacement, is inefficient.Not at all what I said. Did you see me say inefficient anywhere?! Stop being so dishonest. The point I made was quite the opposite. I said if they produce more energy than it takes to make them then they are a NET positive. But you don’t understand what NET means and I have no simpler way to explain it to you
News headlines?! Haha, another ignorant statement.Something that does not work, is extremely expensive, destroys land by the square miles, requires constant replacement, is inefficient.
I do understand your position. Slade has no knowledge of electrical power plants and bases his/her opinion on news headlines
Ignorance in your case, is your lack of knowledge and common sense.News headlines?! Haha, another ignorant statement.
When I see inefficiencies I say let’s fix them and improve… not let’s dismiss them all together and demonize those who want to develope and utilize.
Look elektra. I’m not advocating to cover our entire country with turbines and stop using all other energy production sources. Location, energy needs, resources, costs, all play a factor. What I don’t understand are closed minded people like you with an agenda to demonize and shut down its use all together.Ignorance in your case, is your lack of knowledge and common sense.
Inefficiencies, fix and improve, is what led to Wind Turbines being replaced with Steam Powered Turbines. Wind Turbines are so inefficient, they were replaced.
Wind Turbines are inefficient, hence you must build 100s of thousands and have a fossil fuel backup plan for when they do not work. We also need nuclear and fossil fuels to supply the energy needed to manufacture wind turbines.
Fix and improve? I will translate that statement, make more and make them bigger.
That looks like pure projection to me.Ignorance in your case, is your lack of knowledge and common sense.
Electricity-generating wind turbines have not been replaced by steam powered turbines. And have you adopted the Trump School of Capitalization?Inefficiencies, fix and improve, is what led to Wind Turbines being replaced with Steam Powered Turbines. Wind Turbines are so inefficient, they were replaced.
Really? Would you like to compare the efficiency in $/kWh to any variety of fossil fuel energy? ANY? How about gallons or cubic feet or tons of fuel/kWh? Just what efficiency are you talking about? How much wind energy they capture? Cause, guess what, all the wind a turbine will use over its entire lifetime doesn't cost a single penny. That sure as FUCK can't be said for any fossil fuel plants.Wind Turbines are inefficient
To power the entire planet.hence you must build 100s of thousands
As do your fossil fuel plants.and have a fossil fuel backup plan for when they do not work
The manufacture of wind turbines requires only electricity. It doesn't matter how that electricity is generated.We also need nuclear and fossil fuels to supply the energy needed to manufacture wind turbines.
I can translate every word you post at one shot. It goes like this: "If Elektra said it, it's a lie".Fix and improve? I will translate that statement, make more and make them bigger.
Where to start with lil cricket's projection.The manufacture of wind turbines requires only electricity. It doesn't matter how that electricity is generated.
I can translate every word you post at one shot. It goes like this: "If Elektra said it, it's a lie".
100's of thousands of wind turbines can not provide 1% of the energy the world uses in a day!That looks like pure projection
To power the entire planet.
We can power the universe with wind turbines. That it takes a lot of them is irrelevant. No one is harmed by seeing a wind turbine and no one is attempting to power the entire planet with them. But they are currently supplying 7.33% of the entire planet's electricity demand with 341 hundred thousand turbines. Global wind energy share in electricity mix 2022 | Statista.100's of thousands of wind turbines can not provide 1% of the energy the world uses in a day!
The government and the green energy industry have never ever made the claim that we can power the world, or even 10% with wind turbines.
Moron
No part of my statement is false, you make a claim that is pure fiction, speculation.We can power the universe with wind turbines. That it takes a lot of them is irrelevant. No one is harmed by seeing a wind turbine and no one is attempting to power the entire planet with them. But they are currently supplying 7.33% of the entire planet's electricity demand with 341 hundred thousand turbines. Global wind energy share in electricity mix 2022 | Statista.
So your lead statement is demonstrably false. Why do you keep making incorrect statements that are easily checked? Why aren't YOU checking them before you post them? Perhaps because you are the moron.
I am not demonizing. I am stating fact!Look elektra. I’m not advocating to cover our entire country with turbines and stop using all other energy production sources. Location, energy needs, resources, costs, all play a factor. What I don’t understand are closed minded people like you with an agenda to demonize and shut down its use all together.
Oh, I did not know you studied energy in any way and that your career is in energy. I just assumed you are influenced by whatever Headline or Soundbite you heard.News headlines?! Haha, another ignorant statement.
The US didn't even BEGIN to electrify till the 1880s. And steam doesn't power anything. It transfers energy from a heat source to a turbine or perhaps a piston and cylinder arrangement.I am not demonizing. I am stating fact!
Wind Turbines failed in the 1800's. Wind Turbines were replaced by water power, then steam power. Today, steam power is the most powerful source of electricity on the planet.
That is false. For instance, no coastline on the planet is wind free for days or weeks. At the base of mountains, winds are a daily occurrence.Location? The best locations in the World always have days or weeks, of no wind.
Where are the data that those wind turbines failed to produce electricity?We are now on a 3rd generation of wind turbines, that are being replaced with the 4th generation of wind turbines.
Like the oil industry I guess.The profit is the government subsidy for the installation of wind turbines. Damn, that only results in bankruptcy for the corporations, after the investors are paid off and the top corporate officials all make million dollar bonuses
Why not? It was granted to EVERY producer. It didn't affect the level of the field.The solution to all these bankruptcies? Congress granted a subsidy for every kilowatt generated.
We know longer have a free market where the best, most efficient product makes our lives,
our standard of living better.
Is Wall St somehow immune from the cost of running a large scale utility? They are taking advantage of the system like any company with money to invest would do. In the process, the utility customers are served and state of the nation continues to improve as non-emitting technologies replace fossil fuel systems.We have a market dictated by the government that makes the most profit for Wall st.
Do you somehow believe these three groups didn't have precisely as much control over the fossil fuel industries? Do you think they've had no involvement in the coal and petroleum industries over the last century?The Federal Reserve, The International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank.
Wind turbines have replaced significant amounts of fossil fuel systems and the CO2 they emitted with a working system with unlimited free fuel.In other words, your idea that Wind Turbines are somehow good, is only correct if you are stating that Wind Turbines have increased the profits big oil corporations make.
None of the three largest producers: Vestas, Siemens and Shanghai Electric originated or involved the fossil fuel industry. Vestas started as a blackshop and went into metal manufacturing and then light cranes. Siemens has always been into the elecricity and electronics business. They made generators before they made wind generators. Shanghai Electric grew out of a government run 'business' to manufacture generators and auxiliary equipment for power plants. None ever drilled, mined, refined, distributed or sold fossil fuels.Wind Turbines are a product of the fossil fuel industry.
Dirt is much older than utility scale wind turbine generation systems. The first 3MW (ie: utility scale) wind turbine was erected in 1983. Dirt (I had to look this up just now), it seems, is a good deal older. According to good ole'Popular Science , most of the dirt we see, it says, is from two million years ago.What industry would not want to have square miles of their products, working or not. They are all sold, they make the profit, we are left with a technology as old as dirt.
Big Oil is losing market from increases in the fleet mileage rates due to hybrids and EVs entering. Big Banks and Wall St have always been filthy rich. It's rather why they exist, isn't it.Big Oil, Big Banks, Wall st., all are getting filthy rich.
Wind does not power anything, nor does the sun. Thank you for clarifying your pure stupidity.The US didn't even BEGIN to electrify till the 1880s. And steam doesn't power anything. It transfers energy from a heat source to a turbine or perhaps a piston and cylinder arrangement.
Wind Turbines are made with dirt, dumb ass. You must believe in Fairy Dust and Unicorns as well. Everything a Wind Turbine is made from, originates from dirt. Iron ore mines, Quartz rocks, etc..Dirt is much older than utility scale wind turbine generation systems. The first 3MW (ie: utility scale) wind turbine was erected in 1983. Dirt (I had to look this up just now), it seems, is a good deal older. According to good ole'Popular Science , most of the dirt we see, it says, is from two million years ago.
I don’t and it’s not and I’m not. You shouldn’t assume so much.Oh, I did not know you studied energy in any way and that your career is in energy. I just assumed you are influenced by whatever Headline or Soundbite you heard.
I did not assume, I asked a question to point out that you are making claims you heard or learned about as a soundbite or news headline.I don’t and it’s not and I’m not. You shouldn’t assume so much.
Why does ones education matter, when you claim to know so much about Wind Turbines? Gee, maybe, so you know more than the propaganda.I studied mechanical engineering in school and have been a serial entrepreneur since. Do mostly consulting type stuff now. Dont see why any of that matters but I’m it one to dodge questions
Well this is fun…I did not assume
I just assumed you are influenced by whatever Headline or Soundbite you heard.
I didn’t confirm that. You’re assuming againThank you for confirming that you know nothing about Wind Turbines other than that they got big, and sometimes spin, and they are extremely expensive cause they barely work.
You asked about my education. I literally said in my reply that I don’t see why it matters but I wanted to answer your question.Why does ones education matter, when you claim to know so much about Wind Turbines? Gee, maybe, so you know more than the propaganda.
