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at the end of the day, i very much doubt that someone in new zealand knows a whole lot about american conservatives who don't post on messageboards.
that means his liberal supporters gave him a pass
now, back to the OP
is she a self hating lesbian?
did she lie about her personal experiences?
So because a couple of supposedly Liberal supporters gave him a pass, that says what exactly? Nothing. So you made no point whatsoever and still haven't proved your original premise.
I never called her a self-hating lesbian. I think she is biased about her past with Liberals due to the way her relationship with NOW ended, yes.
Moddikins... You DO realize that most Conservatives ARE tolerant of homosexuals.. The one's that really are NOT are so far right wing it's just as spooky as the far left wingers...
Surely even you can tell the difference?
She's a very smart woman. Ever read her...listened to her? What you are saying is pretty much the same as saying she is a liar. I call bs on THAT.
that means his liberal supporters gave him a pass
now, back to the OP
is she a self hating lesbian?
did she lie about her personal experiences?
So because a couple of supposedly Liberal supporters gave him a pass, that says what exactly? Nothing. So you made no point whatsoever and still haven't proved your original premise.
I never called her a self-hating lesbian. I think she is biased about her past with Liberals due to the way her relationship with NOW ended, yes.
She's a very smart woman. Ever read her...listened to her? What you are saying is pretty much the same as saying she is a liar. I call bs on THAT.
She's a very smart woman. Ever read her...listened to her? What you are saying is pretty much the same as saying she is a liar. I call bs on THAT.
What I'm saying is that she was fine as a Liberal until she got censured by NOW for racially insensitive comments. You see nothing odd about the timing to suddenly start talking about how wrong the political left is? Nothing at all?
umm she didn't just now become a conservative. No, I see nothing odd...and it isn't sudden. I have heard her talk against the political left many times over the last few years.
In 1996, the NOW Executive Board voted nearly unanimously to censure Bruce for what it claimed were "racially insensitive comments" during the O.J. Simpson murder trial.[5] After months of infighting, Bruce resigned as president of Los Angeles NOW in June 1996.[6] Bruce claimed that the censure was due to her focus on domestic violence, as opposed to defense attorney Johnnie Cochran's "racial issues" trial argument.[4] Since then, Bruce has written about the dispute in her critique on what she sees as the failings of NOW, and the political left in general. She believes that the feminist establishment in the U.S. has abandoned authentic feminism.[7]
umm she didn't just now become a conservative. No, I see nothing odd...and it isn't sudden. I have heard her talk against the political left many times over the last few years.
What? Let me repost it so you can get the full context.
Tammy Bruce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In 1996, the NOW Executive Board voted nearly unanimously to censure Bruce for what it claimed were "racially insensitive comments" during the O.J. Simpson murder trial.[5] After months of infighting, Bruce resigned as president of Los Angeles NOW in June 1996.[6] Bruce claimed that the censure was due to her focus on domestic violence, as opposed to defense attorney Johnnie Cochran's "racial issues" trial argument.[4] Since then, Bruce has written about the dispute in her critique on what she sees as the failings of NOW, and the political left in general. She believes that the feminist establishment in the U.S. has abandoned authentic feminism.[7]
Like I said, she seemed to be fine as a Liberal up until she got censured by NOW. Then all of a sudden she turned over a new leaf.
On that note, I'm logging off for the night, night.
Apples and oranges. g'nite bert.
She's a very smart woman. Ever read her...listened to her? What you are saying is pretty much the same as saying she is a liar. I call bs on THAT.
What I'm saying is that she was fine as a Liberal until she got censured by NOW for racially insensitive comments. You see nothing odd about the timing to suddenly start talking about how wrong the political left is? Nothing at all?
umm she didn't just now become a conservative. No, I see nothing odd...and it isn't sudden. I have heard her talk against the political left many times over the last few years.
take a look at the real truthWhat I'm saying is that she was fine as a Liberal until she got censured by NOW for racially insensitive comments. You see nothing odd about the timing to suddenly start talking about how wrong the political left is? Nothing at all?
umm she didn't just now become a conservative. No, I see nothing odd...and it isn't sudden. I have heard her talk against the political left many times over the last few years.
Well, if wikipedia says it, it MUST be true!
"Here's what happened," Ms. Bruce said. "We have a policy to not participate in shows that A, are not about domestic violence, or B, really inflame a racial confrontation.
"And what they said to me is that there are a bunch of black women here in Philadelphia who think what you're doing is racist, and they want to confront you on that, and I said to them, over the phone, 'I don't have time to do that.' " And somehow, she added, "that became paraphrased into, 'I don't have time to argue with a bunch of black women.' "
What I'm saying is that she was fine as a Liberal until she got censured by NOW for racially insensitive comments. You see nothing odd about the timing to suddenly start talking about how wrong the political left is? Nothing at all?
umm she didn't just now become a conservative. No, I see nothing odd...and it isn't sudden. I have heard her talk against the political left many times over the last few years.
Well, if wikipedia says it, it MUST be true!
take a look at the real truthumm she didn't just now become a conservative. No, I see nothing odd...and it isn't sudden. I have heard her talk against the political left many times over the last few years.
Well, if wikipedia says it, it MUST be true!
"Here's what happened," Ms. Bruce said. "We have a policy to not participate in shows that A, are not about domestic violence, or B, really inflame a racial confrontation.
"And what they said to me is that there are a bunch of black women here in Philadelphia who think what you're doing is racist, and they want to confront you on that, and I said to them, over the phone, 'I don't have time to do that.' " And somehow, she added, "that became paraphrased into, 'I don't have time to argue with a bunch of black women.' "
yuptake a look at the real truthWell, if wikipedia says it, it MUST be true!
"Here's what happened," Ms. Bruce said. "We have a policy to not participate in shows that A, are not about domestic violence, or B, really inflame a racial confrontation.
"And what they said to me is that there are a bunch of black women here in Philadelphia who think what you're doing is racist, and they want to confront you on that, and I said to them, over the phone, 'I don't have time to do that.' " And somehow, she added, "that became paraphrased into, 'I don't have time to argue with a bunch of black women.' "
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A little louder this time...
Moddikins... You DO realize that most Conservatives ARE tolerant of homosexuals.. The one's that really are NOT are so far right wing it's just as spooky as the far left wingers...
Surely even you can tell the difference?
you do, and she was right on that pointYou know what tickles the crap outta me? When liberals find a Republican homosexual they treat them like crap. Just like they do African American Republicans. Oh! and i might add Republican women don't fare well either.
And you say I generalize.
if a republican comes out the libs go apeshit on him/her
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh now I see why your panties are in a bunch; how dare anyone try and say conservatives are more tolerant on ANYTHING.
Actually, it has more to do with the fact that the statement was bullshit. Why mispresent what I say and believe? You don't see me doing it to you, do you? Think I can get just as much of a fair shake in return?
Fair shake? LMAO! I post an op-ed, which was certainly fair game for you to respond to, but you chose to personally attack me. Then my posting style in general. Why? Who knows? You've been doing so for months. If you did it to all conservatives, well then you just would be a poor poster, but you seem to go after me. Again, your problem, but I'm tired of trying to ignore you.
did you actually read the opinion piece? how can you say it's bullshit-it's one woman's opinion based on her experiences-you can disagree with her opinion, but it's hardly bullshit.
Yes. She said the following:
The real story of bigotry and intolerance is the fact that it lives and thrives on the left. As a gay woman who spent most of her adult life pushing the cart for liberal causes with liberal friends in a liberal city, I found that sexism, racism and homophobia are staples in the liberal world.
The woman is biased in the first place against Liberals as she was censured out of NOW for making racially insensitive comments as I previously pointed out. Up until that point, she was going along as just another Liberal. After that, she started to go against the political left.
so you're saying that bigotry and intolerance don't thrive on the left.
that also would be bullshit
What evidence do you cite? Was there a poll taken and I missed it? Least I was honest enough to accurately say many and not try to make claims by pulling them out of my ass.
Only one trolling here is Annie and now yourself. Seems whenever I call out Annie out on her bullshit, you aren't far behind with some snarky reply instead of a real response.
So, anyone who disagrees with the MODMORON is a troll? Good show.
I maybe sensitive, but seems he really does load that accusation for me. In this case, I posted an op-ed and he went meltdown. He could simply have disagreed, but nope, went personal once again.
