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sorry...NO Libertarian would agree with this.....you are not libertarian Nick!!!! at least not on this topic!I've already explained how the varying levels of infringement in privacy work on the constitutional level. Multiple times. I'm not going to go into again, go look it up for yourself. You're not being educated in this, you're just ranting.
Oh you're so full of shit - you have explained nothing...
Furthermore you wouldn't know the constitution if it slapped you upside your head...
Also, I'm the libertarian here...
You know you're wrong when you have a true libertarian arguing that the state has a right to drug test those living off of the taxpayers...
This policy is a requirement for a FREE SERVICE - if you cant meet the requirements then you don't get the FREE SERVICE..
Besides, pissing in a cup isn't intrusive at all...
yep, that's why i own my home outright, the cars too, and don't have to work anymore....to survive...because i never met personal responsibility!Liberals and Personal Responsibility have never met.
We regularly drug test where I work, in fact my job duties include administering the drug and alcohol program, so I am all for drug testing. The use of illicit drugs is forbidden and against the law. If you are not breaking the law you won't have anything to worry about. I have had to take several drug tests in my lifetime when getting hired for a job. If someone is giving you money whether its for actually working or for NOT working you need to play by the rules, thats part of the gig. Dont like it? Go elsewhere.
Does being poor in America enough to provide the government with "reasonable cause" under the Constitution for mandatory drug testing?
No, being poor is not "reasonable cause" for mandatory drug testing.
Neither is applying for welfare mandatory.
Both are voluntary.
If you are assaulted, there is no mandate that you report the crime to the police. It's a voluntary act. Should the police start mandating drug tests to ensure that you are sober, and thus giving an accurate reporting?
nick, whether rich or poor or getting a subsidy or not....breaking the 4th is breaking the fourth.....constitutional rights don't just go away..... find another method to weed out the abusers and leave the innocent ones alone....sorry...NO Libertarian would agree with this.....you are not libertarian Nick!!!! at least not on this topic!Oh you're so full of shit - you have explained nothing...
Furthermore you wouldn't know the constitution if it slapped you upside your head...
Also, I'm the libertarian here...
You know you're wrong when you have a true libertarian arguing that the state has a right to drug test those living off of the taxpayers...
This policy is a requirement for a FREE SERVICE - if you cant meet the requirements then you don't get the FREE SERVICE..
Besides, pissing in a cup isn't intrusive at all...
Don't confuse libertarian with anarchy...
Requirements for entitlements DO NOT violate the libertarian premise...
As a matter of fact there would be no "welfare" under true libertarianism...
If you want to live off the taxpayer you have to answer to the taxpayer...
Now, no one will go to jail if they fail the drug test - their free money will just be revoked...
Quite frankly I believe drugs should be legalized, and even if they were legal - I would still support drug testing welfare recipients..
Remember we're talking about welfare recipients here not those collecting their social security...
yep, that's why i own my home outright, the cars too, and don't have to work anymore....to survive...because i never met personal responsibility!Liberals and Personal Responsibility have never met.
you are good, really good willow! you've been blessed with your insight! bravo!
nick, whether rich or poor or getting a subsidy or not....breaking the 4th is breaking the fourth.....constitutional rights don't just go away..... find another method to weed out the abusers and leave the innocent ones alone....sorry...NO Libertarian would agree with this.....you are not libertarian Nick!!!! at least not on this topic!
Don't confuse libertarian with anarchy...
Requirements for entitlements DO NOT violate the libertarian premise...
As a matter of fact there would be no "welfare" under true libertarianism...
If you want to live off the taxpayer you have to answer to the taxpayer...
Now, no one will go to jail if they fail the drug test - their free money will just be revoked...
Quite frankly I believe drugs should be legalized, and even if they were legal - I would still support drug testing welfare recipients..
Remember we're talking about welfare recipients here not those collecting their social security...
nick, whether rich or poor or getting a subsidy or not....breaking the 4th is breaking the fourth.....constitutional rights don't just go away..... find another method to weed out the abusers and leave the innocent ones alone....sorry...NO Libertarian would agree with this.....you are not libertarian Nick!!!! at least not on this topic!
Don't confuse libertarian with anarchy...
Requirements for entitlements DO NOT violate the libertarian premise...
As a matter of fact there would be no "welfare" under true libertarianism...
If you want to live off the taxpayer you have to answer to the taxpayer...
Now, no one will go to jail if they fail the drug test - their free money will just be revoked...
Quite frankly I believe drugs should be legalized, and even if they were legal - I would still support drug testing welfare recipients..
Remember we're talking about welfare recipients here not those collecting their social security...
that's just simply bulloney willow....nick, whether rich or poor or getting a subsidy or not....breaking the 4th is breaking the fourth.....constitutional rights don't just go away..... find another method to weed out the abusers and leave the innocent ones alone....Don't confuse libertarian with anarchy...
Requirements for entitlements DO NOT violate the libertarian premise...
As a matter of fact there would be no "welfare" under true libertarianism...
If you want to live off the taxpayer you have to answer to the taxpayer...
Now, no one will go to jail if they fail the drug test - their free money will just be revoked...
Quite frankly I believe drugs should be legalized, and even if they were legal - I would still support drug testing welfare recipients..
Remember we're talking about welfare recipients here not those collecting their social security...
if you don't want to be tested, walk away, don't take our money honey. it's all good. it's your choice.
that's just simply bulloney willow....nick, whether rich or poor or getting a subsidy or not....breaking the 4th is breaking the fourth.....constitutional rights don't just go away..... find another method to weed out the abusers and leave the innocent ones alone....
if you don't want to be tested, walk away, don't take our money honey. it's all good. it's your choice.
breaking the 4th amendment is breaking the 4th amendment....
the courts will decide....the gvt has no right to search the non drug users.
sure I have, a few times this past year alone, to your state to visit my parents, and I have not been searched at either airport....nor have they required a urine sample!that's just simply bulloney willow....if you don't want to be tested, walk away, don't take our money honey. it's all good. it's your choice.
breaking the 4th amendment is breaking the 4th amendment....
the courts will decide....the gvt has no right to search the non drug users.
they search the innocent by the thousands each and every day..
I guess youse never been on an aeroplane huh hunny?
sure I have, a few times this past year alone, to your state to visit my parents, and I have not been searched at either airport....nor have they required a urine sample!that's just simply bulloney willow....
breaking the 4th amendment is breaking the 4th amendment....
the courts will decide....the gvt has no right to search the non drug users.
they search the innocent by the thousands each and every day..
I guess youse never been on an aeroplane huh hunny?
Nearly 1,600 Fla. welfare applicants decline to take drug test, fueling debate over new law
MIAMI State figures show that hundreds of welfare applicants in Florida have declined to take drug tests that have been required for the assistance since mid-July.
Thirty-two applicants failed the test, 7,028 passed and 1,597 didnt take it, according figures released Tuesday the Department of Children and Families. People who decline to take the test arent required to explain.
Proponents of the law have suggested applicants would be deterred because they knew they would test positive. Critics say applicants may not have taken the test because they couldnt afford the fee that can be as much as $35 or didnt have easy access to a testing facility.
Not sure how I feel about this.
Truly, I don't get folks using the constitution as a means to justify illegal activity. Ya might consider putting down the bongs and come back to reality...brain cells are beginning to fade.
that's just simply bulloney willow....nick, whether rich or poor or getting a subsidy or not....breaking the 4th is breaking the fourth.....constitutional rights don't just go away..... find another method to weed out the abusers and leave the innocent ones alone....
if you don't want to be tested, walk away, don't take our money honey. it's all good. it's your choice.
breaking the 4th amendment is breaking the 4th amendment....
the courts will decide....the gvt has no right to search the non drug users.
