WH Can’t Say When Joe Biden Believes Life Begins

[marvin martian]

Where does it mention science in that article.

Do you disagree with that definition?

 

[Donald H]

A few thoughts:

Thought 1: Until hearts and minds are changed, abortion will continue.

This is true in that until hearts and minds face up to taking a socially responsible position on a woman's perceived need for an abortion, abortion will continue. In plain words, prevent the perceived need at it's roots.

Lets take slavery: Hearts and minds had to change on race and slavery for us to get from where we were then to where we are today. As long as the Left teaches that abortion is okay, that will be difficult. Hearts and Minds

Slavery is a different issue but there's a parallel can be drawn. Where America is today isn't a desirable position. The more vocal racists are making that pretty clear. Mount your counterattack against them.

Thought 2: All decent people know that rape and murder is terrible. Even kids understand that. There are laws against it too. And yet, jails are full of rapists and murderers. So from that perspective, yes, abortion will always be around because the flagrant disregard for life will always be around.

Would increasing the incarceration rate and the punishment help to solve the problem. Or once again, addressing the problem at its roots do better?

Thought 3: Science: Young kids are more pro life today because they like science and science more and more shows how the baby in the womb is a living human being. DNA science also disproves the worn out slogan My Body My Choice because the NA proves that the baby is not part of the moans body, but rather a distinct individual.

I'm opposed to abortion so you don't have to preach to the choir. But I support socially responsible action aimed at decreasing a woman's perceived need for an abortion.

I think your sincerity has been terminated by dogma. I hope you can come back to the discussion.

 

[Donald H]

Science is an agenda. Progs say it all the time. Global climate change is an agenda. The science can be manipulated and the weather in extremes used to brainwash people to pay another ten per cent of their salary to the elites. NASA will launch a few preprogrammed earth satellites to show us the bullshit they have concocted. The Weather Channel shills, and other services are in compliance with them. All nice and neat. A half century ago they started this. It is selling it to the dumb asses. We are paying at least a few hundred dollars apiece already for this from what I read a few years ago. When it goes to a few thousand dollars it will be more painful.

You are aware of the counter argument on climate change, and of the accusation that the denialists are being led by their noses by big business.

I won't belabour the point further.

 

[BlindBoo]

Are you one of those that believes that born babies should be allowed to be killed?

Most Leftists believe babies can be killed after birth.

They hate children. They hate women too. In fact, I think they just hate everything.

Ya'll are hilarious.

To protect infants who are born alive. <<NOTE: Aug. 5, 2002 - [H.R.
2175]>>

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress <<NOTE: Born-Alive Infants
Protection Act of 2002.>> assembled,

SECTION 1. <<NOTE: 1 USC 1 note.>> SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of
2002''.

SEC. 2. DEFINITION OF BORN-ALIVE INFANT.

(a) In General.--Chapter 1 of title 1, United States Code, is
amended by adding at the end the following:

``Sec. 8. `Person', `human being', `child', and `individual' as
including born-alive infant

``(a) In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any
ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative
bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words `person', `human
being', `child', and `individual', shall include every infant member of
the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
``(b) As used in this section, the term `born alive', with respect
to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or
extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of
development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a
beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of
voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been
cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a
result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced
abortion.


Passed unanimously.

 

[Weatherman2020]

This is true in that until hearts and minds face up to taking a socially responsible position on a woman's perceived need for an abortion, abortion will continue. In plain words, prevent the perceived need at it's roots.

Slavery is a different issue but there's a parallel can be drawn. Where America is today isn't a desirable position. The more vocal racists are making that pretty clear. Mount your counterattack against them.

Would increasing the incarceration rate and the punishment help to solve the problem. Or once again, addressing the problem at its roots do better?

I'm opposed to abortion so you don't have to preach to the choir. But I support socially responsible action aimed at decreasing a woman's perceived need for an abortion.

I think your sincerity has been terminated by dogma. I hope you can come back to the discussion.

Would releasing over a hundred thousand career violent felons from prison early cause harm, knowing that 60% of all paroles are rearrested within 3 years and 90% in 5 years? And that’s just the ones caught.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Ya'll are hilarious.

To protect infants who are born alive. <<NOTE: Aug. 5, 2002 - [H.R.
2175]>>

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress <<NOTE: Born-Alive Infants
Protection Act of 2002.>> assembled,

SECTION 1. <<NOTE: 1 USC 1 note.>> SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of
2002''.

SEC. 2. DEFINITION OF BORN-ALIVE INFANT.

(a) In General.--Chapter 1 of title 1, United States Code, is
amended by adding at the end the following:

``Sec. 8. `Person', `human being', `child', and `individual' as
including born-alive infant

``(a) In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any
ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative
bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words `person', `human
being', `child', and `individual', shall include every infant member of
the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
``(b) As used in this section, the term `born alive', with respect
to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or
extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of
development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a
beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of
voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been
cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a
result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced
abortion.


Passed unanimously.

Do I get $20 for every elected Democrat who has openly called for infanticide?

 

[BlindBoo]

Do I get $20 for every elected Democrat who has openly called for infanticide?

Only if I get 20 for every time I prove you're lying about who said what.

 

[Not a Monkeys Uncle]

Life begins at conception

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Ya'll are hilarious.

To protect infants who are born alive. <<NOTE: Aug. 5, 2002 - [H.R.
2175]>>

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress <<NOTE: Born-Alive Infants
Protection Act of 2002.>> assembled,

SECTION 1. <<NOTE: 1 USC 1 note.>> SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of
2002''.

SEC. 2. DEFINITION OF BORN-ALIVE INFANT.

(a) In General.--Chapter 1 of title 1, United States Code, is
amended by adding at the end the following:

``Sec. 8. `Person', `human being', `child', and `individual' as
including born-alive infant

``(a) In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any
ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative
bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words `person', `human
being', `child', and `individual', shall include every infant member of
the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
``(b) As used in this section, the term `born alive', with respect
to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or
extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of
development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a
beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of
voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been
cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a
result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced
abortion.


Passed unanimously.

So, we talk about leftist morals, or the lack thereof, and you talk about law.

Way to be relevant, loser.

 

[marvin martian]

Life begins at conception

Yup, that's what the science says, too! Pro-life is science-based. Pro-abort is just bloodlust.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Yup, that's what the science says, too! Pro-life is science-based. Pro-abort is just bloodlust.

And sluttery.

 

[BlindBoo]

So, we talk about leftist morals, or the lack thereof, and you talk about law.

Way to be relevant, loser.

Lying pieces of shit have no morals.

Yup, that's what the science says, too! Pro-life is science-based. Pro-abort is just bloodlust.

Everyone who ever lived began as a one cell zygote. Not every conceived zygote begins a new life.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I have doubts Slow Joe could tell you what he had for breakfast, asking him when life begins is a real stretch

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Lying pieces of shit have no morals.


Everyone who ever lived began as a one cell zygote. Not every conceived zygote begins a new life.

I iterate, way to be relevant.

 

[j-mac]

Ask my four kids

So, you resisted killing them?

I wasn't asking if you have done so dolt....I was asking if you believe in that....You do see the difference don't you?

 

[j-mac]

Ya'll are hilarious.

To protect infants who are born alive. <<NOTE: Aug. 5, 2002 - [H.R.
2175]>>

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress <<NOTE: Born-Alive Infants
Protection Act of 2002.>> assembled,

SECTION 1. <<NOTE: 1 USC 1 note.>> SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of
2002''.

SEC. 2. DEFINITION OF BORN-ALIVE INFANT.

(a) In General.--Chapter 1 of title 1, United States Code, is
amended by adding at the end the following:

``Sec. 8. `Person', `human being', `child', and `individual' as
including born-alive infant

``(a) In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any
ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative
bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words `person', `human
being', `child', and `individual', shall include every infant member of
the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
``(b) As used in this section, the term `born alive', with respect
to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or
extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of
development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a
beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of
voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been
cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a
result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced
abortion.


Passed unanimously.

The very fact that a law had to be passed to ensure that, shows that there are enough out there that believe that should be an option...Sad...

 

[Dragonlady]

The answer is simple for an atheist with morality.

I’m not sure so I will error on the side of life and assume at the earliest point.

It doesn't matter when the President believes life begins. What matter is that no one has the right to impose their beliefs onto other people.

If you believe abortion is wrong, don't have an abortion. That's the ONLY right you have.

 

[BlindBoo]

The very fact that a law had to be passed to ensure that, shows that there are enough out there that believe that should be an option...Sad...

It was passed in response to an incident that had the Nations attention. Most states already had laws on the books that criminalized neglect of baby born alive.

The Neo-GOP tried to pass another one just like it some 20 years later.

 

[j-mac]

It was passed in response to an incident that had the Nations attention. Most states already had laws on the books that criminalized neglect of baby born alive.

The Neo-GOP tried to pass another one just like it some 20 years later.

Hmmm...And why do you suppose GOP members felt they needed to pass such legislation?

 

[BlindBoo]

Hmmm...And why do you suppose GOP members felt they needed to pass such legislation?

It was publicity stunt that backfired on them. They were apparently ignorant of the existing law.