What do liberals think about Trump's statement he was spied on now?

[BlindBoo]

Manafort has a party, Comrade?

Is it the same party as his unidicted and uninvestigated partner in these crimes, John Podesta? You know, the chief of staff for Mafia Don Hillary Clinton?

Oddly, while the Grand Inquisitor seeks to crucify Manafort over SEC violations, which by all indications he is flat out guilty of; Mewler-Torquemada seems entirely uninterested in the two Podesta brothers who were 100% as involved in the deal as their equal partner Manafort.

Why is that? Why is this corrupt fucking shit Mewler applying different standards of law for the identical act?

Could it be that this corrupt pile of shit is nothing other than a hack attempting to stage a coup against the government of the United States>

You're damed right that I don't care about Flynn lying to corrupt traitor Peter Strzok.

Strzok should be lined up in front of a wall and shot.

We'll have to be satisfied with the scumbag spending the rest of his life in prison, but he should be shot for his attempted coup.

Now tell me how it is "illegal" to lie to FSB scum who are conspiring with the Kremlin to rig the presidential election the way Strzok and McCabe did?

Wasn't McCabe fired because the IG found he had repeatedly lied to the FSB and had engaged in perjury on multiple occasions?

Do you ever pause to wonder why you are ALWAYS wrong about this stuff? Let me guess:it's a vast conspiracy.

Approaching two years of Russia conspiracy paranoia investigation with no evidence

Not only do we have evidence- there Mueller has indictments against Russians who attempted to illegally influence our election.

But of course- Trumpsters don't believe Russia did anything.......because Russia is our friend.....

You have evidence of nothing that Herr Mewler is supposed to be investigating.

Then when we're talking Uranium, Russia's not a threat, we can sell them 20% of our supply ...

Leftists just:

Nice tune.

The 20% figure is 20% of total uranium ore output. Since we produce about 20% of our needs. The % of our total need of Uranium those mines represent is a mere 4 %. Then consider this bit of recent history:

The Megatons to Megawatts™ Program was a unique, commercially financed government-industry partnership in which bomb-grade uranium from dismantled Russian nuclear warheads was recycled into low enriched uranium used to produce fuel for American nuclear power plants. Centrus’ predecessor, the United States Enrichment Corporation, as executive agent for the U.S. government, and Joint Stock Company “TENEX” (TENEX), acting for the Russian government, implemented this 20-year, $8 billion program at no cost to taxpayers.

As of December 2013, the program has been completed: 500 metric tons of bomb-grade highly enriched uranium have been recycled into more than 14,000 metric tons of low enriched uranium – permanently eliminating enough bomb-grade material for 20,000 nuclear warheads.

Megatons to Megawatts - Centrus Energy Corp

 

[GreenBean]

'phony documentation' for Carter Page?

Obama government investigators [Inquisitors] grew suspicious of Page's Russian contacts and a trip he took to Moscow during the campaign, so they wiretapped him in late October 2016.

The Obama DOJ sought permission to surveil Page largely based on information from the infamous and discredited Clinton Steele dossier. That’s the document filled with bogus ludicrous blatantly false allegations re: Team Trump. This dossier was funded by Hillary Clinton’s campaign lawyer, on paper at least, meaning that Page was being surveilled in part because of a campaign’s bogus opposition research

 

[kaz]

Do you ever pause to wonder why you are ALWAYS wrong about this stuff? Let me guess:it's a vast conspiracy.

Approaching two years of Russia conspiracy paranoia investigation with no evidence

Not only do we have evidence- there Mueller has indictments against Russians who attempted to illegally influence our election.

But of course- Trumpsters don't believe Russia did anything.......because Russia is our friend.....

You have evidence of nothing that Herr Mewler is supposed to be investigating.

Then when we're talking Uranium, Russia's not a threat, we can sell them 20% of our supply ...

Leftists just:

Nice tune.

The 20% figure is 20% of total uranium ore output. Since we produce about 20% of our needs. The % of our total need of Uranium those mines represent is a mere 4 %. Then consider this bit of recent history:

The Megatons to Megawatts™ Program was a unique, commercially financed government-industry partnership in which bomb-grade uranium from dismantled Russian nuclear warheads was recycled into low enriched uranium used to produce fuel for American nuclear power plants. Centrus’ predecessor, the United States Enrichment Corporation, as executive agent for the U.S. government, and Joint Stock Company “TENEX” (TENEX), acting for the Russian government, implemented this 20-year, $8 billion program at no cost to taxpayers.

As of December 2013, the program has been completed: 500 metric tons of bomb-grade highly enriched uranium have been recycled into more than 14,000 metric tons of low enriched uranium – permanently eliminating enough bomb-grade material for 20,000 nuclear warheads.

Megatons to Megawatts - Centrus Energy Corp

It's amazing how much money people with interests in the Russian State nuclear company that bought Uranium One paid the Clintons for what leftists keep arguing wasn't that major of a deal ...

And again,

Russia & Trump, hysterical meltdown

Russia & Hillary, no big deal.

Russia & Trump, no evidence

Russia & Hillary, $145 million in interests in the Russia deal. $4 million paid to Hillary's foundation around the time of the deal, $500K paid directly to Hillary's bank account

Your position on Russia? Flip, Flop and Fly ...

[/QUOTE]

 

[Syriusly]

'phony documentation' for Carter Page?

Obama government investigators [Inquisitors] grew suspicious of Page's Russian contacts and a trip he took to Moscow during the campaign, so they wiretapped him in late October 2016.

Hmmm would that make Mueller a "Trump government investigator'?

Late October 2016? So a month after Page left the Trump campaign?

So this is another example of spying on someone not on Trump's campaign?

 

[GreenBean]

Who on the Trump campaign were they 'spying on'?

The foundation of the investigation into possible collusion with Team Trump and the Russians, along with the related leftist media coverage, was based on bogus information spread by associates of the Clintons and Obama.

Carter Page was no longer part of the Trump campaign when the court order was approved. So in actuality there is no evidence that they wiretapped Trump Tower - just like there was no ecidence that the Earth was round at one point in History - that's where you need to read between the lines and come to your Opinion Based Conclusions Do I think they wiretapped or in some way eavesdropped on Team Trump - Yes

 

[GreenBean]

They're both true, douchebag. You're hanging your claim on the use of the word "wiretap." That's antiquainted terminology for what the NSA does when it wants to spy on you, but what Trump said is a fact.

And we KNOW -- they got that warrant with phony documentation for Carter Page and RENEWED IT several times.. Hence ---- they were SPYING on Team Trump. With help of much of the Obama Admin appointees at FBI/DNI/CIA/STATE departments. It's a fact.

What was the 'phony documentation' for Carter Page?
Who on the Trump campaign were they 'spying on'?
Who authorized the renewal of the FISA warrant?

Because I don't think 'fact' means what you think it means.

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court

 

[GreenBean]

Mueller a "Trump government investigator'?

In the same sense that The members of the Watergate Committee were members of the Nixon Government

 

[Syriusly]

Approaching two years of Russia conspiracy paranoia investigation with no evidence

Not only do we have evidence- there Mueller has indictments against Russians who attempted to illegally influence our election.

But of course- Trumpsters don't believe Russia did anything.......because Russia is our friend.....

You have evidence of nothing that Herr Mewler is supposed to be investigating.

Then when we're talking Uranium, Russia's not a threat, we can sell them 20% of our supply ...

Leftists just:

Nice tune.

The 20% figure is 20% of total uranium ore output. Since we produce about 20% of our needs. The % of our total need of Uranium those mines represent is a mere 4 %. Then consider this bit of recent history:

The Megatons to Megawatts™ Program was a unique, commercially financed government-industry partnership in which bomb-grade uranium from dismantled Russian nuclear warheads was recycled into low enriched uranium used to produce fuel for American nuclear power plants. Centrus’ predecessor, the United States Enrichment Corporation, as executive agent for the U.S. government, and Joint Stock Company “TENEX” (TENEX), acting for the Russian government, implemented this 20-year, $8 billion program at no cost to taxpayers.

As of December 2013, the program has been completed: 500 metric tons of bomb-grade highly enriched uranium have been recycled into more than 14,000 metric tons of low enriched uranium – permanently eliminating enough bomb-grade material for 20,000 nuclear warheads.

Megatons to Megawatts - Centrus Energy Corp

It's amazing how much money people with interests in the Russian State nuclear company that bought Uranium One paid the Clintons for what leftists keep arguing wasn't that major of a deal ...

Russia & Hillary, $145 million in interests in the Russia deal. $4 million paid to Hillary's foundation around the time of the deal, $500K paid directly to Hillary's bank account
..]

Now you dance away from your 20% claim- which is good- since that was such an easy lie to show.

Remember- no one paid the Clinton's anything. Unlike Trump's Foundation, the Clinton's didn't use the Clinton Foundation like a piggy bank for personal expenses.

So what about that $145 billion? That you claim was around the same time as the deal? Another lie.

The Timing of Most of the Clinton Foundation Donations Does Not Match

Of the $145 million allegedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation by Uranium One investors, the lion’s share — $131.3 million — came from a single donor, Frank Giustra, the company’s Canadian founder. But Giustra sold off his entire stake in the company in 2007, three years before the Russia deal and at least 18 months before Clinton became secretary of state.

Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer (also a Canadian), the company’s chairman:

His donations through the Fernwood Foundation included $1 million reported in 2009, the year his company appealed to the American Embassy to help it keep its mines in Kazakhstan; $250,000 in 2010, the year the Russians sought majority control; as well as $600,000 in 2011 and $500,000 in 2012. Mr. Telfer said that his donations had nothing to do with his business dealings, and that he had never discussed Uranium One with Mr. or Mrs. Clinton. He said he had given the money because he wanted to support Mr. Giustra’s charitable endeavors with Mr. Clinton. “Frank and I have been friends and business partners for almost 20 years,” he said.

 

[GreenBean]

Late October 2016? So a month after Page left the Trump campaign?

So in the arena of Trump Collusion with Russia - in your warped little mind - Yes Carter Page was part of Team Trump

However - in the arena of did the Obama DOJ eavesdrop on Team Trump - No Carter Page was not a part of Team Trump

So which is it ? In your depraved opinion - was he or wasn't he ? [And we all know how much your opinion is worth ...lmao]

 

[Syriusly]

They're both true, douchebag. You're hanging your claim on the use of the word "wiretap." That's antiquainted terminology for what the NSA does when it wants to spy on you, but what Trump said is a fact.

And we KNOW -- they got that warrant with phony documentation for Carter Page and RENEWED IT several times.. Hence ---- they were SPYING on Team Trump. With help of much of the Obama Admin appointees at FBI/DNI/CIA/STATE departments. It's a fact.

What was the 'phony documentation' for Carter Page?
Who on the Trump campaign were they 'spying on'?
Who authorized the renewal of the FISA warrant?

Because I don't think 'fact' means what you think it means.

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court

Timelines, Paul Manafort, Fusion GPS & Illegal Surveillance

On October 21, 2016, the FBI and DOJ obtained the initial FISA warrant targeting Carter Page and later obtained three FISA renewals from the FISC.


A FISA order on an American citizen must be renewed by the FISC (FISA Court) every 90 days and each renewal requires a separate finding of probable cause.


October 21, 2016 – First FISA Warrant requested AND granted.


January 19, 2017 – First FISA renewal (90 days).


April 19, 2017 – Second FISA renewal (90 days).


July 18, 2017 – Third FISA renewal (90 days).


October 16, 2017 – Final FISA extension expires.


Then-DAG Sally Yates, then-Acting DAG Dana Boente, and DAG Rod Rosenstein – each signed one or more FISA applications on behalf of DOJ. Per the Memo, Lynch never signed a FISA application.


January 20, 2017 – AG Loretta Lynch retires on Inauguration Day.


January 30, 2017 – Acting AG Sally Yates fired by President Trump for refusing to uphold Travel Ban.


April 25, 2017 – Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein confirmed by Senate.


This would imply that Yates signed two FISA applications – 10/21/16 & 1/19/17.


Boente signed one – 4/19/17.


Rosenstein signed one – 7/18/17.


Of greater importance is the fact that surveillance of Page – which allowed surveillance of the Trump Campaign and President Trump & his administration – was in place from October 21, 2016 through October 16, 2017.

All when Page was no longer part of the Trump campaign.

 

[Syriusly]

Late October 2016? So a month after Page left the Trump campaign?

So in the arena of Trump Collusion with Russia - in your warped little mind - Yes Carter Page was part of Team Trump

However - in the arena of did the Obama DOJ eavesdrop on Team Trump - No Carter Page was not a part of Team Trump]

I don't know of any Trump collusion with Russia- I am awaiting the conclusion of Robert Mueller's investigation- you remember- the Republican appointed by a Repubican- and then we will all find out whether there was any collusion.

Trump proclaimed that he was wiretapped. That Trump Tower was wiretapped.

Carter Page was not Trump. And the Trump campaign had publicly announced he was not a member of the campaign.

So:
A) Page cannot be used to support Trump's lie that Trump was spied on.
B) Page cannot be used to support Trump's lie that his campaign was spied on.

Hell if they were willing to 'break the law' which you idiots claim they did- they would have actually wiretapped someone- on the actual campaign- not people not on the campaign.

 

[Syriusly]

Mueller a "Trump government investigator'?

In the same sense that The members of the Watergate Committee were members of the Nixon Government

Great just so I know we can all agree to call Mueller's a Trump government investigator.

 

[flacaltenn]

They're both true, douchebag. You're hanging your claim on the use of the word "wiretap." That's antiquainted terminology for what the NSA does when it wants to spy on you, but what Trump said is a fact.

And we KNOW -- they got that warrant with phony documentation for Carter Page and RENEWED IT several times.. Hence ---- they were SPYING on Team Trump. With help of much of the Obama Admin appointees at FBI/DNI/CIA/STATE departments. It's a fact.

What was the 'phony documentation' for Carter Page?
Who on the Trump campaign were they 'spying on'?
Who authorized the renewal of the FISA warrant?

Because I don't think 'fact' means what you think it means.

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court

Timelines, Paul Manafort, Fusion GPS & Illegal Surveillance

On October 21, 2016, the FBI and DOJ obtained the initial FISA warrant targeting Carter Page and later obtained three FISA renewals from the FISC.


A FISA order on an American citizen must be renewed by the FISC (FISA Court) every 90 days and each renewal requires a separate finding of probable cause.


October 21, 2016 – First FISA Warrant requested AND granted.


January 19, 2017 – First FISA renewal (90 days).


April 19, 2017 – Second FISA renewal (90 days).


July 18, 2017 – Third FISA renewal (90 days).


October 16, 2017 – Final FISA extension expires.


Then-DAG Sally Yates, then-Acting DAG Dana Boente, and DAG Rod Rosenstein – each signed one or more FISA applications on behalf of DOJ. Per the Memo, Lynch never signed a FISA application.


January 20, 2017 – AG Loretta Lynch retires on Inauguration Day.


January 30, 2017 – Acting AG Sally Yates fired by President Trump for refusing to uphold Travel Ban.


April 25, 2017 – Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein confirmed by Senate.


This would imply that Yates signed two FISA applications – 10/21/16 & 1/19/17.


Boente signed one – 4/19/17.


Rosenstein signed one – 7/18/17.


Of greater importance is the fact that surveillance of Page – which allowed surveillance of the Trump Campaign and President Trump & his administration – was in place from October 21, 2016 through October 16, 2017.

All when Page was no longer part of the Trump campaign.

Hey.. You MUST BE a very slow learner. Didn't understand a word of what I said. It is of NO IMPORTANCE that the PAge warrants were issued AFTER Page left the campaign.

The FACT you're missing is that the Big Brother Patriot Act Domestic Spy system was DESIGNED to suck up EVERYTHING and STORE IT. So when you GET a FISC warrant -- you get that target persons associates and history. You have no fucking clue how awesome that actually is.

Have you ever SEEN this brand new Spy Palace we built for the Patriotic Act and NSA? It's a brand new small CITY in the middle of nowhere Utah. Here it is..

 

[Syriusly]

They're both true, douchebag. You're hanging your claim on the use of the word "wiretap." That's antiquainted terminology for what the NSA does when it wants to spy on you, but what Trump said is a fact.

And we KNOW -- they got that warrant with phony documentation for Carter Page and RENEWED IT several times.. Hence ---- they were SPYING on Team Trump. With help of much of the Obama Admin appointees at FBI/DNI/CIA/STATE departments. It's a fact.

What was the 'phony documentation' for Carter Page?
Who on the Trump campaign were they 'spying on'?
Who authorized the renewal of the FISA warrant?

Because I don't think 'fact' means what you think it means.

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court

Timelines, Paul Manafort, Fusion GPS & Illegal Surveillance

On October 21, 2016, the FBI and DOJ obtained the initial FISA warrant targeting Carter Page and later obtained three FISA renewals from the FISC.


A FISA order on an American citizen must be renewed by the FISC (FISA Court) every 90 days and each renewal requires a separate finding of probable cause.


October 21, 2016 – First FISA Warrant requested AND granted.


January 19, 2017 – First FISA renewal (90 days).


April 19, 2017 – Second FISA renewal (90 days).


July 18, 2017 – Third FISA renewal (90 days).


October 16, 2017 – Final FISA extension expires.


Then-DAG Sally Yates, then-Acting DAG Dana Boente, and DAG Rod Rosenstein – each signed one or more FISA applications on behalf of DOJ. Per the Memo, Lynch never signed a FISA application.


January 20, 2017 – AG Loretta Lynch retires on Inauguration Day.


January 30, 2017 – Acting AG Sally Yates fired by President Trump for refusing to uphold Travel Ban.


April 25, 2017 – Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein confirmed by Senate.


This would imply that Yates signed two FISA applications – 10/21/16 & 1/19/17.


Boente signed one – 4/19/17.


Rosenstein signed one – 7/18/17.


Of greater importance is the fact that surveillance of Page – which allowed surveillance of the Trump Campaign and President Trump & his administration – was in place from October 21, 2016 through October 16, 2017.

All when Page was no longer part of the Trump campaign.

Hey.. You MUST BE a very slow learner. Didn't understand a word of what I said. It is of NO IMPORTANCE that the PAge warrants were issued AFTER Page left the campaign.

So show us the evidence that shows Page's communications while he was on the campaign were read as part of the investigation.

Either you have evidence that his communications while he was part of the campaign were read- or you don't.

Go.

 

[flacaltenn]

And we KNOW -- they got that warrant with phony documentation for Carter Page and RENEWED IT several times.. Hence ---- they were SPYING on Team Trump. With help of much of the Obama Admin appointees at FBI/DNI/CIA/STATE departments. It's a fact.

What was the 'phony documentation' for Carter Page?
Who on the Trump campaign were they 'spying on'?
Who authorized the renewal of the FISA warrant?

Because I don't think 'fact' means what you think it means.

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court

Timelines, Paul Manafort, Fusion GPS & Illegal Surveillance

On October 21, 2016, the FBI and DOJ obtained the initial FISA warrant targeting Carter Page and later obtained three FISA renewals from the FISC.


A FISA order on an American citizen must be renewed by the FISC (FISA Court) every 90 days and each renewal requires a separate finding of probable cause.


October 21, 2016 – First FISA Warrant requested AND granted.


January 19, 2017 – First FISA renewal (90 days).


April 19, 2017 – Second FISA renewal (90 days).


July 18, 2017 – Third FISA renewal (90 days).


October 16, 2017 – Final FISA extension expires.


Then-DAG Sally Yates, then-Acting DAG Dana Boente, and DAG Rod Rosenstein – each signed one or more FISA applications on behalf of DOJ. Per the Memo, Lynch never signed a FISA application.


January 20, 2017 – AG Loretta Lynch retires on Inauguration Day.


January 30, 2017 – Acting AG Sally Yates fired by President Trump for refusing to uphold Travel Ban.


April 25, 2017 – Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein confirmed by Senate.


This would imply that Yates signed two FISA applications – 10/21/16 & 1/19/17.


Boente signed one – 4/19/17.


Rosenstein signed one – 7/18/17.


Of greater importance is the fact that surveillance of Page – which allowed surveillance of the Trump Campaign and President Trump & his administration – was in place from October 21, 2016 through October 16, 2017.

All when Page was no longer part of the Trump campaign.

Hey.. You MUST BE a very slow learner. Didn't understand a word of what I said. It is of NO IMPORTANCE that the PAge warrants were issued AFTER Page left the campaign.

So show us the evidence that shows Page's communications while he was on the campaign were read as part of the investigation.

Either you have evidence that his communications while he was part of the campaign were read- or you don't.

Go.

THAT"S WHY THEY NEEDED THE FISC warrants dumnbass...

That gives them the abilities I just told you that the system was designed to do...

 

[flacaltenn]

If Page was their only concern, they could have gone to CIVIL court for a traditional monitoring warrant. The entire purpose of the FISC court warrants was tie PAGE to the phony RUssian collusion charges during the campaign. And the ONLY PLACE that evidence in the past exists is on Big Brother.

It was WEAPONIZED to SPY on an opposition political campaign. It could be weaponized in the future for DOMESTIC law enforcement or even FINANCIAL manipulation. The ENTIRE CONCEPT of allowing this magnitude of American Domestic spying is insidious and tyrannical...

Don't believe me. Even if I had seven years in the Intel area. Ask the ACLU about the OTHER abuses of this system that have already occurred. Or The Nation --- a leading left- wing journal and former home of Rachael Maddow. Civil Libertarians are fired about this huge mistake and YOU sit fat and happy consuming partisan sludge that never TOLD you about the awesome capabilities and potential for abuse of this monstrous system..

 

[Syriusly]

What was the 'phony documentation' for Carter Page?
Who on the Trump campaign were they 'spying on'?
Who authorized the renewal of the FISA warrant?

Because I don't think 'fact' means what you think it means.

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court

Timelines, Paul Manafort, Fusion GPS & Illegal Surveillance

On October 21, 2016, the FBI and DOJ obtained the initial FISA warrant targeting Carter Page and later obtained three FISA renewals from the FISC.


A FISA order on an American citizen must be renewed by the FISC (FISA Court) every 90 days and each renewal requires a separate finding of probable cause.


October 21, 2016 – First FISA Warrant requested AND granted.


January 19, 2017 – First FISA renewal (90 days).


April 19, 2017 – Second FISA renewal (90 days).


July 18, 2017 – Third FISA renewal (90 days).


October 16, 2017 – Final FISA extension expires.


Then-DAG Sally Yates, then-Acting DAG Dana Boente, and DAG Rod Rosenstein – each signed one or more FISA applications on behalf of DOJ. Per the Memo, Lynch never signed a FISA application.


January 20, 2017 – AG Loretta Lynch retires on Inauguration Day.


January 30, 2017 – Acting AG Sally Yates fired by President Trump for refusing to uphold Travel Ban.


April 25, 2017 – Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein confirmed by Senate.


This would imply that Yates signed two FISA applications – 10/21/16 & 1/19/17.


Boente signed one – 4/19/17.


Rosenstein signed one – 7/18/17.


Of greater importance is the fact that surveillance of Page – which allowed surveillance of the Trump Campaign and President Trump & his administration – was in place from October 21, 2016 through October 16, 2017.

All when Page was no longer part of the Trump campaign.

Hey.. You MUST BE a very slow learner. Didn't understand a word of what I said. It is of NO IMPORTANCE that the PAge warrants were issued AFTER Page left the campaign.

So show us the evidence that shows Page's communications while he was on the campaign were read as part of the investigation.

Either you have evidence that his communications while he was part of the campaign were read- or you don't.

Go.

THAT"S WHY THEY NEEDED THE FISC warrants dumnbass...

That gives them the abilities I just told you that the system was designed to do...

So you don't have any evidence that any of Page's communications while he was part of the campaign were monitored- you are just ASSuming.

 

[Syriusly]

If Page was their only concern, they could have gone to CIVIL court for a traditional monitoring warrant. The entire purpose of the FISC court warrants was tie PAGE to the phony RUssian collusion charges during the campaign. And the ONLY PLACE that evidence in the past exists is on Big Brother.

It was WEAPONIZED to SPY on an opposition political campaign. It could be weaponized in the future for DOMESTIC law enforcement or even FINANCIAL manipulation. The ENTIRE CONCEPT of allowing this magnitude of American Domestic spying is insidious and tyrannical...

Don't believe me. Even if I had seven years in the Intel area. Ask the ACLU about the OTHER abuses of this system that have already occurred. Or The Nation --- a leading left- wing journal and former home of Rachael Maddow. Civil Libertarians are fired about this huge mistake and YOU sit fat and happy consuming partisan sludge that never TOLD you about the awesome capabilities and potential for abuse of this monstrous system..

Oh I am not saying this system cannot be abused.

You just haven't shown that the system was abused in this case.

I would be very happy to have the whole system reformed- but clearly that didnt' happen when the system was reauthorized in January.

 

[flacaltenn]

If Page was their only concern, they could have gone to CIVIL court for a traditional monitoring warrant. The entire purpose of the FISC court warrants was tie PAGE to the phony RUssian collusion charges during the campaign. And the ONLY PLACE that evidence in the past exists is on Big Brother.

It was WEAPONIZED to SPY on an opposition political campaign. It could be weaponized in the future for DOMESTIC law enforcement or even FINANCIAL manipulation. The ENTIRE CONCEPT of allowing this magnitude of American Domestic spying is insidious and tyrannical...

Don't believe me. Even if I had seven years in the Intel area. Ask the ACLU about the OTHER abuses of this system that have already occurred. Or The Nation --- a leading left- wing journal and former home of Rachael Maddow. Civil Libertarians are fired about this huge mistake and YOU sit fat and happy consuming partisan sludge that never TOLD you about the awesome capabilities and potential for abuse of this monstrous system..

Oh I am not saying this system cannot be abused.

You just haven't shown that the system was abused in this case.

I would be very happy to have the whole system reformed- but clearly that didnt' happen when the system was reauthorized in January.

We shouldn't be HAVING a Domestic Spy system run by the world's greatest Spy agency. It was only done after 9/11 because the FBI was hopelessly in the tech Stone Age. We ended ALL Domestic Spy operations in the 70s because of abuse. The Swamp never learns its lessons.


It is AMPLY documented that the system was used. The Flynn persecution used this data base. Many of the 100s of "leaks" that emerged towards the end of the campaign and into the transition could ONLY come from this system. And THATS WHY they dummied up a warrants to GET ACCESS to the system in the 1st place. Not to pursue PAGE... He was cooperating with the FBI for YEARS about his dealings in Russia. He was PROVIDING intel to US agencies during those years. They wanted to probe the Trump Campaign for "Russian Collusion" and HE was the best evidence they had at the time.

That's the way history is gonna record this when it all comes out. Tick Tick Tick. The IG report will open this up like a Christmas gift between now and 2018 elections. The roles of FBI/DNI et al in marketing and selling that POS Russian Intel dossier will be clearly released to the public by then. You got 10 high ranking FBI officials now fired, demoted or taking early retirement.

It's the largest scandal since the Clinton Impeachment but MUCH MORE sinister..

 

[flacaltenn]

Get right with the Lord and start consuming better media, because Judgement Day is a comin'....