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If you think I'm race baiting please don't reply.If you haven't been convicted of Bank Robbery, that doesn't mean you are a bank robber either. Can't you get it through your head, we have courts to determine guilt or innocence. That is not the responsibility of law enforcement.No, a person is an illegal immigrant only when the court says so. That is how our judicial system works. There is always a presumption of innocence regardless of the evidence. It is the foundation of American Jurisprudence
Also, half of those that are undocumented entered the country legally and are not in violation of any criminal statue.
You can Clintonize all you like, but if you're not here legally, you are here illegally regardless how or when you got here.
Just more of Flopper's racist crap. If you haven't been convicted of Bank Robbery, that doesn't mean you aren't a bank robber. He's just following the racist plan of exploiting Mexicans for Democrat votes. He hasn't been convicted of being a racist, yet here is is one!
I don't take race baits.
Your last sentence doesn't make sense. You are a race baiter. You constantly conflate illegal aliens with legal immigrants and focus on brown people to imply anyone who disagrees with you is a racist. You're a race baiter, which is itself racist since you're exploiting them for your own personal greed.
You don't want Mexicans, you want poor Mexicans to vote Democrat. I want people who can support themselves from wherever they are from and I don't want people who can't from wherever they are from
To vote they have to be a citizen and that requires them to pass an English proficiency test.A better question is what countries don't make ballots available in multiple languages since most countries are multilingual. For example half the people in Europe are bilingual compared to 20% in the US. In Europe 38% speak 3 languages or more. I know the UK makes ballots available in 5 languages and most countries in Europe will provide translations of their ballots in all the major languages.Learning the language is a key component of assimilating into a culture.Of course they do. That's why our police on the souther border have to know Spanish. That's why we are becoming a bilingual country against our will. That's why they ask me what language I want my ballot in when I go to vote; because these people are assimilating so well.
Yes, in other words, amnesty, just like the Democrats want. The more minorities in the country, the more likely Democrat votes. Plus many of the "legal" immigrants end up on our already strained social programs.
Since you seem to have no interest in understanding the viewpoint of anyone from a foreign country, learning a foreign language would be waste of your time.
No one is forcing you to be bilingual. 80% of this country speaks only English. Furthermore, most people in this country whose native language is not English speak English as a second language. However, just as Americans abroad, they prefer their native tongue.
I understand that, but how many other countries vote using ballots in different languages?
They may not be forcing me to personally be bilingual..........yet, but our industry and government they are. Bilingual signs drive me crazy. It's a reminder to me of those who surrendered our country to foreigners and continue today. It's something we never would have tolerated 30 years ago.
Most of communities in the US do not provide multilingual ballots. The Voters Act requires that a community with a certain percent of voters that speak a foreign language must be provide ballots in that language. There are about 280 communities in 23 states that meet that requirement.
Practically all voters in the US speak English. However people almost always have better comprehension in their native language. So to have the best informed voters, we make ballots available in different languages.
Or we could not allow them to vote (or be here) if they don't speak our language. Again, an assimilation problem.
I live in a mostly black and partially white community, yet they had three different ballots to choose from. So I doubt it has anything to do with percentages, and everything to do with foreigners making demands of our country that we bend over and accommodate. And how much is that costing the taxpayers to have those ballots designed and printed out? Probably most of them get thrown away anyhow.
A number of states go beyond the Voter Act requirements for the reason I mention. Having informed voters is a goal of every state.
I doubt the cost is very high for providing a translated ballot. If they don't provide translated ballots, voters with English as a second language tend to vote for candidates and skip the proposals because they are more difficult to read and understand.
And we all know that's all you have are insults and not a cogent argument. I would post links for you, but you never want to learn anything so you won't read them.
Your last sentence doesn't make sense. You are a race baiter. You constantly conflate illegal aliens with legal immigrants and focus on brown people to imply anyone who disagrees with you is a racist. You're a race baiter, which is itself racist since you're exploiting them for your own personal greed.
Your last sentence doesn't make sense. You are a race baiter. You constantly conflate illegal aliens with legal immigrants and focus on brown people to imply anyone who disagrees with you is a racist. You're a race baiter, which is itself racist since you're exploiting them for your own personal greed.
Again, your Trumpenfuhrer is arresting legal immigrants on flimsy pretexts.
It's not just people in the U.S. illegally — ICE is nabbing lawful permanent residents too
He has slowed the process for resident immigrants to become citizens down to a crawl.
A 'shocking increase' in citizenship application backlog, new report finds
Your Fuhrer is against all immigrants, not just the undocumented ones.
10USC246 is more Important than Any federal Immigration laws.Being arrested does not make you guilty of anything. Without a fair trial, victims can have no confidence that justice will be done. Without fair trials, trust in government and the rule of law collapses. It doesn't matter whether the accused is a kid sneaking across the border or someone accused of a mass murder, the principals are the same and violating those principals will lead to the same results.IncorrectNo, a person is an illegal immigrant only when the court says so. That is how our judicial system works. There is always a presumption of innocence regardless of the evidence. It is the foundation of American JurisprudenceI should have said being undocumented makes it more difficult to assimilate into the culture. The lack of proper documentation and fear of exposure makes people trepidatious, particularly around police and government workers. Activities such as renewing a drivers license, meeting with school personnel about your children, changing jobs, disputing a traffic ticket, or just about any activity that draws public attention can be a landmine.
My grandson dated a girl in high school whose parents were undocumented. She was born in the US but both parents overstayed visas many years ago. They settled in the US, and raised a family.
Although the family spoke English, lived in a nice house in the suburbs, they were always reluctant to do anything that would call attention to the family. They wanted their kids to excel but not to standout. The parents wanted better jobs but were reluctant to change jobs. I suspect that many families do not do as well as this family assimilating into our culture.
And I have the perfect solution to that: kick their asses out of the country.
You just said it well: these illegals lived in the suburbs, had jobs, had drivers licenses, sent their kids to our schools, let their Visa's expire without a second thought. And no, I don't call them undocumented, I call them illegals because that's what they are. Calling illegals undocumented is like calling the guy that broke into your house an uninvited guest.
I don't know where these people are from, but don't you think they talked to their family back home and told them about how nobody will bother you if you are here illegally? This is what has to stop.
Also, half of those that are undocumented entered the country legally and are not in violation of any criminal statue.
Forms of visual observation as well as conduct are sufficient for arrest. You are criminal by your own act, no court Must declare you so
A guy pointing a gun does not go to court first and become arrested second
You have illegally gained access to this country without any court having to so “certify”. What you are engaging in is semantics and an element of that is emotionalism. Those rebutting you are engaging in facts and not pretzel twists.
Of course they can read English. We provide ballots and supporting information in the native language because the voter's comprehension is better in one's native language.To vote they have to be a citizen and that requires them to pass an English proficiency test.A better question is what countries don't make ballots available in multiple languages since most countries are multilingual. For example half the people in Europe are bilingual compared to 20% in the US. In Europe 38% speak 3 languages or more. I know the UK makes ballots available in 5 languages and most countries in Europe will provide translations of their ballots in all the major languages.Learning the language is a key component of assimilating into a culture.
Since you seem to have no interest in understanding the viewpoint of anyone from a foreign country, learning a foreign language would be waste of your time.
No one is forcing you to be bilingual. 80% of this country speaks only English. Furthermore, most people in this country whose native language is not English speak English as a second language. However, just as Americans abroad, they prefer their native tongue.
I understand that, but how many other countries vote using ballots in different languages?
They may not be forcing me to personally be bilingual..........yet, but our industry and government they are. Bilingual signs drive me crazy. It's a reminder to me of those who surrendered our country to foreigners and continue today. It's something we never would have tolerated 30 years ago.
Most of communities in the US do not provide multilingual ballots. The Voters Act requires that a community with a certain percent of voters that speak a foreign language must be provide ballots in that language. There are about 280 communities in 23 states that meet that requirement.
Practically all voters in the US speak English. However people almost always have better comprehension in their native language. So to have the best informed voters, we make ballots available in different languages.
Or we could not allow them to vote (or be here) if they don't speak our language. Again, an assimilation problem.
I live in a mostly black and partially white community, yet they had three different ballots to choose from. So I doubt it has anything to do with percentages, and everything to do with foreigners making demands of our country that we bend over and accommodate. And how much is that costing the taxpayers to have those ballots designed and printed out? Probably most of them get thrown away anyhow.
A number of states go beyond the Voter Act requirements for the reason I mention. Having informed voters is a goal of every state.
I doubt the cost is very high for providing a translated ballot. If they don't provide translated ballots, voters with English as a second language tend to vote for candidates and skip the proposals because they are more difficult to read and understand.
Well maybe if it's that difficult, they shouldn't be voting. What kind of proficiency test is it where they can pass and still not able to read a ballot?
I know you're kind of sticking up for them, but this is one of many reasons I'm a closed border guy; at least until the people here can understand and speak the language.
After 424 pages have we arrived at the logical conclusion that the human cost of illegal immigration falls on the criminals not us as US citizens?
Most conservatives don't hire illegals and the businesses who hire illegals are not just run by conservatives. Most conservatives think they should be fined or jailed. This just isn't accurate
Really?
I've worked at two companies that knew damned well that the "day laborers" the temp company sent over weren't here legally. And both cases,the bosses were right wing assholes.
Temp agencies are supposed to check out their own workers--not their customers.
Again, Hitler, did you actually read the article? It doesn't say that we're processing fewer applications, just that the backlog is up to 20 months. You of course misrepresent it and present it as if the administration isn't processing applications because you're a liar.
That article is about cracking down on people with criminal records, Hitler. Did you read it?
Most conservatives don't hire illegals and the businesses who hire illegals are not just run by conservatives. Most conservatives think they should be fined or jailed. This just isn't accurate
Really?
I've worked at two companies that knew damned well that the "day laborers" the temp company sent over weren't here legally. And both cases,the bosses were right wing assholes.
Temp agencies are supposed to check out their own workers--not their customers.
True. One of the benefits you pay for when using an employment/temp agency is having them do the work of screening prospective employees for you. And if I'm not mistaken, the contract you sign with them does specify that the agency bears the responsibility for the outcome of that screening.
Of course they can read English. We provide ballots and supporting information in the native language because the voter's comprehension is better in one's native language.To vote they have to be a citizen and that requires them to pass an English proficiency test.A better question is what countries don't make ballots available in multiple languages since most countries are multilingual. For example half the people in Europe are bilingual compared to 20% in the US. In Europe 38% speak 3 languages or more. I know the UK makes ballots available in 5 languages and most countries in Europe will provide translations of their ballots in all the major languages.I understand that, but how many other countries vote using ballots in different languages?
They may not be forcing me to personally be bilingual..........yet, but our industry and government they are. Bilingual signs drive me crazy. It's a reminder to me of those who surrendered our country to foreigners and continue today. It's something we never would have tolerated 30 years ago.
Most of communities in the US do not provide multilingual ballots. The Voters Act requires that a community with a certain percent of voters that speak a foreign language must be provide ballots in that language. There are about 280 communities in 23 states that meet that requirement.
Practically all voters in the US speak English. However people almost always have better comprehension in their native language. So to have the best informed voters, we make ballots available in different languages.
Or we could not allow them to vote (or be here) if they don't speak our language. Again, an assimilation problem.
I live in a mostly black and partially white community, yet they had three different ballots to choose from. So I doubt it has anything to do with percentages, and everything to do with foreigners making demands of our country that we bend over and accommodate. And how much is that costing the taxpayers to have those ballots designed and printed out? Probably most of them get thrown away anyhow.
A number of states go beyond the Voter Act requirements for the reason I mention. Having informed voters is a goal of every state.
I doubt the cost is very high for providing a translated ballot. If they don't provide translated ballots, voters with English as a second language tend to vote for candidates and skip the proposals because they are more difficult to read and understand.
Well maybe if it's that difficult, they shouldn't be voting. What kind of proficiency test is it where they can pass and still not able to read a ballot?
I know you're kind of sticking up for them, but this is one of many reasons I'm a closed border guy; at least until the people here can understand and speak the language.
Not sure what your ballot looks like but mine always contains propositions which are discussed in detail with accompanying information.
To provide ballots in English only would accomplish nothing other than having less informed voters voting on important ballot issues such tax proposals, infrastructure and schools.
And we all know that's all you have are insults and not a cogent argument. I would post links for you, but you never want to learn anything so you won't read them.
Naw, nothing to learn from your links to Stormfront, buddy.
The reality is, Mexican immigrants are just like every other immigrant group. They come here, they work hard and they take the jobs Americans don't want to do.
Just like the Poles did 50 years ago
The Germans and Italians did 100 years ago
The Irish did 150 years ago.
Oh, you mean all those groups of people that came here legally and followed by the rules?
Most conservatives don't hire illegals and the businesses who hire illegals are not just run by conservatives. Most conservatives think they should be fined or jailed. This just isn't accurate
Really?
I've worked at two companies that knew damned well that the "day laborers" the temp company sent over weren't here legally. And both cases,the bosses were right wing assholes.
Temp agencies are supposed to check out their own workers--not their customers.
True. One of the benefits you pay for when using an employment/temp agency is having them do the work of screening prospective employees for you. And if I'm not mistaken, the contract you sign with them does specify that the agency bears the responsibility for the outcome of that screening.
Several of our customers use temp agencies. One of my friends works for a company that does the same thing. Years ago even I signed up with several temp agencies during the Reagan recession. Unlike the Obama recession, there wasn't even a McDonald's job around. Only one called me for work, but after the first job, they got such a positive evaluation from their customer they had me working every day somewhere. They even asked me to work two shifts. I stayed with them for about six or eight months.
So I know how they work. No matter where they sent me, I had to stop by the Manpower office every Friday to pickup my paycheck. Even though it wasn't much, they gave me a great reference when I applied for full-time work at other companies.
Most conservatives don't hire illegals and the businesses who hire illegals are not just run by conservatives. Most conservatives think they should be fined or jailed. This just isn't accurate
Really?
I've worked at two companies that knew damned well that the "day laborers" the temp company sent over weren't here legally. And both cases,the bosses were right wing assholes.
Temp agencies are supposed to check out their own workers--not their customers.
True. One of the benefits you pay for when using an employment/temp agency is having them do the work of screening prospective employees for you. And if I'm not mistaken, the contract you sign with them does specify that the agency bears the responsibility for the outcome of that screening.
Several of our customers use temp agencies. One of my friends works for a company that does the same thing. Years ago even I signed up with several temp agencies during the Reagan recession. Unlike the Obama recession, there wasn't even a McDonald's job around. Only one called me for work, but after the first job, they got such a positive evaluation from their customer they had me working every day somewhere. They even asked me to work two shifts. I stayed with them for about six or eight months.
So I know how they work. No matter where they sent me, I had to stop by the Manpower office every Friday to pickup my paycheck. Even though it wasn't much, they gave me a great reference when I applied for full-time work at other companies.
Thankfully, most of them have direct deposit now.
I did the temp-to-hire thing when I moved to Phoenix, because I didn't know the employers and the job market well, and it was a good way to get working quickly.
Oh, you mean all those groups of people that came here legally and followed by the rules?
No, those groups that came here and were hated by small minded bigots...
Again, Hitler, did you actually read the article? It doesn't say that we're processing fewer applications, just that the backlog is up to 20 months. You of course misrepresent it and present it as if the administration isn't processing applications because you're a liar.
Shouldn't be 20 months when Obama had it down to 5.
That article is about cracking down on people with criminal records, Hitler. Did you read it?
Yes, I did. And they are arresting people with minor offenses from years ago, not people who are an actual danger.
Most conservatives don't hire illegals and the businesses who hire illegals are not just run by conservatives. Most conservatives think they should be fined or jailed. This just isn't accurate
Really?
I've worked at two companies that knew damned well that the "day laborers" the temp company sent over weren't here legally. And both cases,the bosses were right wing assholes.
Temp agencies are supposed to check out their own workers--not their customers.
True. One of the benefits you pay for when using an employment/temp agency is having them do the work of screening prospective employees for you. And if I'm not mistaken, the contract you sign with them does specify that the agency bears the responsibility for the outcome of that screening.
Several of our customers use temp agencies. One of my friends works for a company that does the same thing. Years ago even I signed up with several temp agencies during the Reagan recession. Unlike the Obama recession, there wasn't even a McDonald's job around. Only one called me for work, but after the first job, they got such a positive evaluation from their customer they had me working every day somewhere. They even asked me to work two shifts. I stayed with them for about six or eight months.
So I know how they work. No matter where they sent me, I had to stop by the Manpower office every Friday to pickup my paycheck. Even though it wasn't much, they gave me a great reference when I applied for full-time work at other companies.
Most conservatives don't hire illegals and the businesses who hire illegals are not just run by conservatives. Most conservatives think they should be fined or jailed. This just isn't accurate
Really?
I've worked at two companies that knew damned well that the "day laborers" the temp company sent over weren't here legally. And both cases,the bosses were right wing assholes.
Temp agencies are supposed to check out their own workers--not their customers.
True. One of the benefits you pay for when using an employment/temp agency is having them do the work of screening prospective employees for you. And if I'm not mistaken, the contract you sign with them does specify that the agency bears the responsibility for the outcome of that screening.
Several of our customers use temp agencies. One of my friends works for a company that does the same thing. Years ago even I signed up with several temp agencies during the Reagan recession. Unlike the Obama recession, there wasn't even a McDonald's job around. Only one called me for work, but after the first job, they got such a positive evaluation from their customer they had me working every day somewhere. They even asked me to work two shifts. I stayed with them for about six or eight months.
So I know how they work. No matter where they sent me, I had to stop by the Manpower office every Friday to pickup my paycheck. Even though it wasn't much, they gave me a great reference when I applied for full-time work at other companies.
Thankfully, most of them have direct deposit now.
I did the temp-to-hire thing when I moved to Phoenix, because I didn't know the employers and the job market well, and it was a good way to get working quickly.
