What Is It You Think You Can't Do Because of Political Correctness?

[theDoctorisIn]

Yep, murder is murder, doesn't matter how or who, that is unless you don't believe in equality, or some being more equal than others.

Really?

You think that two prison inmates killing each other is "equal" to, say, a child-murdering serial killer?

Yep, taking a life is taking a life, this notion that the life of a child is more important than any other is bull shit. And adding additional time for the reason some one commits a crime is bull shit, you punish the crime, not the reasoning behind it, or the tools used to commit it.

Well, I don't have much to say, other than I disagree completely. There is no one-size-fits-all "murder". Some ARE much worse than others.

 

[OKTexas]

Really?

You think that two prison inmates killing each other is "equal" to, say, a child-murdering serial killer?

Yep, taking a life is taking a life, this notion that the life of a child is more important than any other is bull shit. And adding additional time for the reason some one commits a crime is bull shit, you punish the crime, not the reasoning behind it, or the tools used to commit it.

Well, I don't have much to say, other than I disagree completely. There is no one-size-fits-all "murder". Some ARE much worse than others.

Really, then where is this great equality the left keeps harping about, if it's not in law, where can it be found? Or is equality circumstantial to the left like morals, truth and reality.

 

[Plasmaball]

You're too stupid to understand the reason you were being labeled that way, do I really have to explain it?

Yes you do. Let's hear it.

Better to just let you float around in your cloud of ignorance.......

and punt!

 

[Plasmaball]

Ever heard of a "Hate" crime. You know that little leftist invention to punish your thoughts and not your actions. It doesn't get any more PC than that.

Additional sentencing in the commission of a crime is PC? Killing a police officer gets additional penalties...so does using a gun instead of a knife. Those "PC" too?

Yep, murder is murder, doesn't matter how or who, that is unless you don't believe in equality, or some being more equal than others.

no it isnt. Thats why we have varying degrees of murder. You failed before you began. Pack it up and find a new thread.

Or let me guess. Those blacks that got hung back in the day where killed for the sheer idea of killing. Not because of the hate of blacks or anything.

the simple fact that this is your argument and people are agreeing with it is fucking sad.

 

[Plasmaball]

Yep, taking a life is taking a life, this notion that the life of a child is more important than any other is bull shit. And adding additional time for the reason some one commits a crime is bull shit, you punish the crime, not the reasoning behind it, or the tools used to commit it.

Well, I don't have much to say, other than I disagree completely. There is no one-size-fits-all "murder". Some ARE much worse than others.

Really, then where is this great equality the left keeps harping about, if it's not in law, where can it be found? Or is equality circumstantial to the left like morals, truth and reality.

this is one of the saddest things i've ever read on the internets. The idea you think this is a legit argument is pathetic.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

True, but you want the government to decide what is offensive and to punish anyone who says something that the government deems offensive.

This is not about manners or culture-------its about the government dictating what speech is permitted and what speech is not allowed.

Who does the government punish for not being politically correct?

Ever heard of a "Hate" crime. You know that little leftist invention to punish your thoughts and not your actions. It doesn't get any more PC than that.

No.

But we’ve all heard of the ignorance and stupidity common to most conservatives, particularly the conservative quoted above.

Enhanced sentencing when race or another personal factor is part of the crime is Constitutional:

Mitchell argues that the Wisconsin penalty enhancement statute is invalid because it punishes the defendant's discriminatory motive, or reason, for acting. But motive plays the same role under the Wisconsin statute as it does under federal and state antidiscrimination laws, which we have previously upheld against constitutional challenge.

The First Amendment, moreover, does not prohibit the evidentiary use of speech to establish the elements of a crime or to prove motive or intent. Evidence of a defendant's previous declarations or statements is commonly admitted in criminal trials subject to evidentiary rules dealing with relevancy, reliability, and the like.

Wisconsin v. Mitchell, 508 U.S. 47 (1993).

And Mitchell was a unanimous decision, meaning all the conservative justices concurred – Scalia, Thomas, and the opinion of the Court was written by Chief Justice Rehnquist – one can’t get anymore conservative than that.

So much for the rightist lie that enhanced sentencing is a ‘leftist invention.’

 

[OKTexas]

Additional sentencing in the commission of a crime is PC? Killing a police officer gets additional penalties...so does using a gun instead of a knife. Those "PC" too?

Yep, murder is murder, doesn't matter how or who, that is unless you don't believe in equality, or some being more equal than others.

no it isnt. Thats why we have varying degrees of murder. You failed before you began. Pack it up and find a new thread.

Or let me guess. Those blacks that got hung back in the day where killed for the sheer idea of killing. Not because of the hate of blacks or anything.

the simple fact that this is your argument and people are agreeing with it is fucking sad.

It's not illegal to hate, it is illegal to kill, it's the killing that should be punished, period end of story. And the degrees you refer to should be determined by the circumstances of the crime itself, nothing else.

 

[OKTexas]

Who does the government punish for not being politically correct?

Ever heard of a "Hate" crime. You know that little leftist invention to punish your thoughts and not your actions. It doesn't get any more PC than that.

No.

But we’ve all heard of the ignorance and stupidity common to most conservatives, particularly the conservative quoted above.

Enhanced sentencing when race or another personal factor is part of the crime is Constitutional:

Mitchell argues that the Wisconsin penalty enhancement statute is invalid because it punishes the defendant's discriminatory motive, or reason, for acting. But motive plays the same role under the Wisconsin statute as it does under federal and state antidiscrimination laws, which we have previously upheld against constitutional challenge.

The First Amendment, moreover, does not prohibit the evidentiary use of speech to establish the elements of a crime or to prove motive or intent. Evidence of a defendant's previous declarations or statements is commonly admitted in criminal trials subject to evidentiary rules dealing with relevancy, reliability, and the like.

Wisconsin v. Mitchell, 508 U.S. 47 (1993).

And Mitchell was a unanimous decision, meaning all the conservative justices concurred – Scalia, Thomas, and the opinion of the Court was written by Chief Justice Rehnquist – one can’t get anymore conservative than that.

So much for the rightist lie that enhanced sentencing is a ‘leftist invention.’

Discrimination has been codified by the courts before, this is just the pendulum swinging the other way, the fact that one victim is more special than another violates the 14th Amendment for equal protection, I don't give a shit what the court says.

 

[Redfish]

Ever heard of a "Hate" crime. You know that little leftist invention to punish your thoughts and not your actions. It doesn't get any more PC than that.

No.

But we’ve all heard of the ignorance and stupidity common to most conservatives, particularly the conservative quoted above.

Enhanced sentencing when race or another personal factor is part of the crime is Constitutional:

Mitchell argues that the Wisconsin penalty enhancement statute is invalid because it punishes the defendant's discriminatory motive, or reason, for acting. But motive plays the same role under the Wisconsin statute as it does under federal and state antidiscrimination laws, which we have previously upheld against constitutional challenge.

The First Amendment, moreover, does not prohibit the evidentiary use of speech to establish the elements of a crime or to prove motive or intent. Evidence of a defendant's previous declarations or statements is commonly admitted in criminal trials subject to evidentiary rules dealing with relevancy, reliability, and the like.

Wisconsin v. Mitchell, 508 U.S. 47 (1993).

And Mitchell was a unanimous decision, meaning all the conservative justices concurred – Scalia, Thomas, and the opinion of the Court was written by Chief Justice Rehnquist – one can’t get anymore conservative than that.

So much for the rightist lie that enhanced sentencing is a ‘leftist invention.’

Discrimination has been codified by the courts before, this is just the pendulum swinging the other way, the fact that one victim is more special than another violates the 14th Amendment for equal protection, I don't give a shit what the court says.

exactly, its thought control no matter what the lefties want to call it.

 

[JoeB131]

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No, I dislke the man because he's a racist and a homophobe.

Also, the Founding Slave Rapists were all Deists. They didn't believe in the Jesus fairy tale any more than I do.

nothing he said is racist or homophobic. There was no hate in his statements, he only said what he believes from his reading of the Bible.

about 1/10 of a second after you die you will know whether the "fairy tale" is true or not. I am confident and comfortable in my beliefs, and tolerant of your atheism.

What gives you the right to be intolerant of the beliefs of others?

Here's the thing, guy...

After we die, most of us are going to find out we were wrong.

If you are a Christian, 5 billion people are wrong.

If you are a Muslim, 5.5 Billion people are wrong.

If you are a Hindu or a Bhuddist, 6 billion people are wrong.

As far as being intolerant of your beliefs, when was the last time you were at a witch-burning.

I mean, it's in the bible. "Thou Shall Not Suffer a Witch to Live". So why aren't you burning witches?

Oh, that's right. The same reason you aren't beating your slave. Because some "intolerant" people said that shit was totally unacceptable, regardless of what the bible says.

 

[Clementine]

Yep, murder is murder, doesn't matter how or who, that is unless you don't believe in equality, or some being more equal than others.

no it isnt. Thats why we have varying degrees of murder. You failed before you began. Pack it up and find a new thread.

Or let me guess. Those blacks that got hung back in the day where killed for the sheer idea of killing. Not because of the hate of blacks or anything.

the simple fact that this is your argument and people are agreeing with it is fucking sad.

It's not illegal to hate, it is illegal to kill, it's the killing that should be punished, period end of story. And the degrees you refer to should be determined by the circumstances of the crime itself, nothing else.

It's only considered politically incorrect hate speech if you call Obama an arrogant socialist, disagree with any liberal policies, fear radical Muslims or say that illegals have no right to come here and demand anything. Everyone else is fair game.

If the left bashes Republicans or capitalism, it's not hate speech, it's just free speech.

This is a prime example of how political correctness is controlling speech. No Democrat politician will come out and condemn this and will chalk it up to free speech. Had this been said about Reid, they would have come out, ginned up public outrage and demanded apologies. It's politically correct, in their eyes, to bash the right. It's only hateful when one of their own is the target.

Check out these hateful Twitter posts where lefties are happy about Barbara Bush being in the hospital and hoping she dies. If the left didn't have double standards, these would be the very definition of hate speech. Would Mrs. Bush be in danger if she met any of these posters on the street or is it just talk? Of course, the left will recognize that it's just a bunch of idiots spouting off and it's the same thing when idiots on the right insult gays, though they get treated differently by the left.


?Die f*cking bitch?: Depraved cretins wish death on ailing former first lady Barbara Bush | Twitchy

This is why PC is dangerous. It seeks to silence one side and vilifies them for doing the same exact thing the other side is doing. When the media sides with the left, you will see the liberals being excused while the right is vilified. To casual viewers of the news, it gives the impression that one side is kind while the other is mean. If the media doesn't bother to report the facts on both sides, you see where public opinion is shaped, and not on facts, but on spin.

 

[Jroc]

no it isnt. Thats why we have varying degrees of murder. You failed before you began. Pack it up and find a new thread.

Or let me guess. Those blacks that got hung back in the day where killed for the sheer idea of killing. Not because of the hate of blacks or anything.

the simple fact that this is your argument and people are agreeing with it is fucking sad.

It's not illegal to hate, it is illegal to kill, it's the killing that should be punished, period end of story. And the degrees you refer to should be determined by the circumstances of the crime itself, nothing else.

It's only considered politically incorrect hate speech if you call Obama an arrogant socialist, disagree with any liberal policies, fear radical Muslims or say that illegals have no right to come here and demand anything. Everyone else is fair game.

If the left bashes Republicans or capitalism, it's not hate speech, it's just free speech.

This is a prime example of how political correctness is controlling speech. No Democrat politician will come out and condemn this and will chalk it up to free speech. Had this been said about Reid, they would have come out, ginned up public outrage and demanded apologies. It's politically correct, in their eyes, to bash the right. It's only hateful when one of their own is the target.

Check out these hateful Twitter posts where lefties are happy about Barbara Bush being in the hospital and hoping she dies. If the left didn't have double standards, these would be the very definition of hate speech. Would Mrs. Bush be in danger if she met any of these posters on the street or is it just talk? Of course, the left will recognize that it's just a bunch of idiots spouting off and it's the same thing when idiots on the right insult gays, though they get treated differently by the left.


?Die f*cking bitch?: Depraved cretins wish death on ailing former first lady Barbara Bush | Twitchy

This is why PC is dangerous. It seeks to silence one side and vilifies them for doing the same exact thing the other side is doing. When the media sides with the left, you will see the liberals being excused while the right is vilified. To casual viewers of the news, it gives the impression that one side is kind while the other is mean. If the media doesn't bother to report the facts on both sides, you see where public opinion is shaped, and not on facts, but on spin.

Liberals in general are the most hateful people you'd ever meet.... Watch MSNBC

 

[Clementine]

It's not illegal to hate, it is illegal to kill, it's the killing that should be punished, period end of story. And the degrees you refer to should be determined by the circumstances of the crime itself, nothing else.

It's only considered politically incorrect hate speech if you call Obama an arrogant socialist, disagree with any liberal policies, fear radical Muslims or say that illegals have no right to come here and demand anything. Everyone else is fair game.

If the left bashes Republicans or capitalism, it's not hate speech, it's just free speech.

This is a prime example of how political correctness is controlling speech. No Democrat politician will come out and condemn this and will chalk it up to free speech. Had this been said about Reid, they would have come out, ginned up public outrage and demanded apologies. It's politically correct, in their eyes, to bash the right. It's only hateful when one of their own is the target.

Check out these hateful Twitter posts where lefties are happy about Barbara Bush being in the hospital and hoping she dies. If the left didn't have double standards, these would be the very definition of hate speech. Would Mrs. Bush be in danger if she met any of these posters on the street or is it just talk? Of course, the left will recognize that it's just a bunch of idiots spouting off and it's the same thing when idiots on the right insult gays, though they get treated differently by the left.


?Die f*cking bitch?: Depraved cretins wish death on ailing former first lady Barbara Bush | Twitchy

This is why PC is dangerous. It seeks to silence one side and vilifies them for doing the same exact thing the other side is doing. When the media sides with the left, you will see the liberals being excused while the right is vilified. To casual viewers of the news, it gives the impression that one side is kind while the other is mean. If the media doesn't bother to report the facts on both sides, you see where public opinion is shaped, and not on facts, but on spin.

Liberals in general are the most hateful people you'd ever meet.... Watch MSNBC

That is why I can't stand watching MSNBC. Some of the most vile comments are made there and rarely do they get called on it. They laugh out loud as they bash people and their scant audience likely does the same. No wonder their viewership has decreased significantly.


Liberals who burned Bush in effigy probably didn't get a visit from the feds the way Nugent did for a stupid comment. It's a double standard.

PC is all about those in power putting out propaganda and impugning those who speak out against it. Bashing the right is what they want from media and the public, so no one will get criticized for that. Can you imagine if tweets hoping for Reid's death had been posted? It would have outraged the left.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What Is It You Think You Can't Do Because of Political Correctness?

The answer to this question is still 'nothing,' ‘political correctness’ is still a myth, and most conservatives are still ignorant and stupid – this thread alone is proof of that.

 

[Mac1958]

What Is It You Think You Can't Do Because of Political Correctness?

The answer to this question is still 'nothing,' ‘political correctness’ is still a myth...

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[zeke]

Bitch piss and moan. Is that ALL a Republican EVER does? Yep. And right here we have our proof of the day.

White people are treated so bad. That they have most of the money and control most of the jobs. Poor poor white people.

And it is all those damn black people that were brought over here as slaves and allowed to breed and look at the fucking mess us white people created and have to live with now.

Poor poor white people.

And the meanness of those bad MSNBC people. How dare they dislike assholes who call themselves Republican.

Of course, what is there TO like about those that call themselves Republican you might ask?
Not a fucking thing that I can tell. Of course, I am a participant on a message board that is founded on dislike and distrust. Maybe the rest of America thinks better of Repubs. I don't really know or care.
I sure as fuck don't like them (Republicans).

But at least I don't hear the Democrats bitch, piss and moan because the Repubs treat them so mean.

LMAO.

 

[zeke]

Bitch piss and moan. Is that ALL a Republican EVER does? Yep. And right here we have our proof of the day.

White people are treated so bad. That they have most of the money and control most of the jobs. Poor poor white people.

And it is all those damn black people that were brought over here as slaves and allowed to breed and look at the fucking mess us white people created and have to live with now.

Poor poor white people.

And the meanness of those bad MSNBC people. How dare they dislike assholes who call themselves Republican.

Of course, what is there TO like about those that call themselves Republican you might ask?
Not a fucking thing that I can tell. Of course, I am a participant on a message board that is founded on dislike and distrust. Maybe the rest of America thinks better of Repubs. I don't really know or care.
I sure as fuck don't like them (Republicans).

But at least I don't hear the Democrats bitch, piss and moan because the Repubs treat them so mean.

LMAO.

 

[Seawytch]

I want to sound like an ass, but don't want the dirty looks that follow...fucking PC.

 

[martybegan]

I want to sound like an ass, but don't want the dirty looks that follow...fucking PC.

But if you sound like a certain type of ass, you can get fired, not just dirty looks.

And only certain people get to decide which flavor of ass is offensive enough to deserve "special" treatment.

 

[Seawytch]

I want to sound like an ass, but don't want the dirty looks that follow...fucking PC.

But if you sound like a certain type of ass, you can get fired, not just dirty looks.

And only certain people get to decide which flavor of ass is offensive enough to deserve "special" treatment.

Yeah...certain people...like religious folks. You can fire me for being gay, but I can't fire you for being Christian. Fix one of them.