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Why do you think we have immigration? I mean we have all told them we don't want more people coming in so what is the official reason(s) we take in so many immigrants every year. We must want or need them. What is the official reason we bring in 500,000 immigrants every year after year.All illegal aliens are CRIMINALS, even the nice mommies. You can not tell CRIMINALS what to do, that is just how it is.I'll allow migrants to come pick fruit. We always have. But don't come and cut grass, do construction or maid work. Not illegally.Someone here on this board actually said do you want higher prices for food when I pressed the slave labor pointYears ago I visited a local INS office to voice my anger over illegal aliens. WOW, was that ever an eye opener. Apparently Hispanic illegal aliens are not held to the same standards as legal immigrants from else where. Because Hispanic illegal aliens are in this moral/ethical twilight zone as they are exploited for cheap labor, which seems to be a saving grace. Hispanic illegal aliens allow themselves to be victimized by unethical employers, and unethical employers use "humanitarianism" as a hedge to exploit illegal aliens. What a mixed up mess. We don't need to build walls or raise the minimum wage, for that matter. No lectures, just use common sense and play fair. Then things will work out.Who's hiring them?I live in a border state where the minimum wage is 7.25. (7.25 x 8 = 58). You can go to most Home Depot or Lowe's parking lots every morning and hire an unskilled illegal for 35 bucks a day. They will work all day until the job is done, not just 8 hours. Same with a skilled mason or carpenter for a higher (negotiated) rate.
No rules or regulations to worry about. Immigration laws flagrantly broken every day and law enforcement doesn't do a damn thing about it. I asked a local cop about this a few years ago. He told me they don't arrest illegals unless they commit a felony. The ICE facility in the state stays full and they rarely accept those that are arrested so if our city arrests illegals, they're stuck with the bill of housing and feeding them. Our schools are stuck with the bill of their kids and our hospitals are stuck with caring for their sick since they won't pay.
But do you want to know the truth? Legal immigration will just go up if they crack down on illegal immigrants and illegal employers. Companies want the flood of labor. They will tell you companies can't find american people qualified to do those jobs
There is no reason to have any immigration, as long as there are unemployed Americans. Furthermore just because Democrats are looking the other way, and letting illegals get treated as slave labor, does not make it acceptable to moral Americans, like TrumpWhy do you think we have immigration? I mean we have all told them we don't want more people coming in so what is the official reason(s) we take in so many immigrants every year. We must want or need them. What is the official reason we bring in 500,000 immigrants every year after year.All illegal aliens are CRIMINALS, even the nice mommies. You can not tell CRIMINALS what to do, that is just how it is.I'll allow migrants to come pick fruit. We always have. But don't come and cut grass, do construction or maid work. Not illegally.Someone here on this board actually said do you want higher prices for food when I pressed the slave labor pointYears ago I visited a local INS office to voice my anger over illegal aliens. WOW, was that ever an eye opener. Apparently Hispanic illegal aliens are not held to the same standards as legal immigrants from else where. Because Hispanic illegal aliens are in this moral/ethical twilight zone as they are exploited for cheap labor, which seems to be a saving grace. Hispanic illegal aliens allow themselves to be victimized by unethical employers, and unethical employers use "humanitarianism" as a hedge to exploit illegal aliens. What a mixed up mess. We don't need to build walls or raise the minimum wage, for that matter. No lectures, just use common sense and play fair. Then things will work out.Who's hiring them?
But do you want to know the truth? Legal immigration will just go up if they crack down on illegal immigrants and illegal employers. Companies want the flood of labor. They will tell you companies can't find american people qualified to do those jobs
And if we get rid of illegals expect that number to go up. More legal Arabs and Hispanics and Asians oh yes.
He fucking hired illegals you God damn fool! Omg how dumb are you?There is no reason to have any immigration, as long as there are unemployed Americans. Furthermore just because Democrats are looking the other way, and letting illegals get treated as slave labor, does not make it acceptable to moral Americans, like TrumpWhy do you think we have immigration? I mean we have all told them we don't want more people coming in so what is the official reason(s) we take in so many immigrants every year. We must want or need them. What is the official reason we bring in 500,000 immigrants every year after year.All illegal aliens are CRIMINALS, even the nice mommies. You can not tell CRIMINALS what to do, that is just how it is.I'll allow migrants to come pick fruit. We always have. But don't come and cut grass, do construction or maid work. Not illegally.Someone here on this board actually said do you want higher prices for food when I pressed the slave labor pointYears ago I visited a local INS office to voice my anger over illegal aliens. WOW, was that ever an eye opener. Apparently Hispanic illegal aliens are not held to the same standards as legal immigrants from else where. Because Hispanic illegal aliens are in this moral/ethical twilight zone as they are exploited for cheap labor, which seems to be a saving grace. Hispanic illegal aliens allow themselves to be victimized by unethical employers, and unethical employers use "humanitarianism" as a hedge to exploit illegal aliens. What a mixed up mess. We don't need to build walls or raise the minimum wage, for that matter. No lectures, just use common sense and play fair. Then things will work out.
But do you want to know the truth? Legal immigration will just go up if they crack down on illegal immigrants and illegal employers. Companies want the flood of labor. They will tell you companies can't find american people qualified to do those jobs
And if we get rid of illegals expect that number to go up. More legal Arabs and Hispanics and Asians oh yes.
I'll allow migrants to come pick fruit. We always have. But don't come and cut grass, do construction or maid work. Not illegally.Someone here on this board actually said do you want higher prices for food when I pressed the slave labor pointYears ago I visited a local INS office to voice my anger over illegal aliens. WOW, was that ever an eye opener. Apparently Hispanic illegal aliens are not held to the same standards as legal immigrants from else where. Because Hispanic illegal aliens are in this moral/ethical twilight zone as they are exploited for cheap labor, which seems to be a saving grace. Hispanic illegal aliens allow themselves to be victimized by unethical employers, and unethical employers use "humanitarianism" as a hedge to exploit illegal aliens. What a mixed up mess. We don't need to build walls or raise the minimum wage, for that matter. No lectures, just use common sense and play fair. Then things will work out.Who's hiring them?I live in a border state where the minimum wage is 7.25. (7.25 x 8 = 58). You can go to most Home Depot or Lowe's parking lots every morning and hire an unskilled illegal for 35 bucks a day. They will work all day until the job is done, not just 8 hours. Same with a skilled mason or carpenter for a higher (negotiated) rate.
No rules or regulations to worry about. Immigration laws flagrantly broken every day and law enforcement doesn't do a damn thing about it. I asked a local cop about this a few years ago. He told me they don't arrest illegals unless they commit a felony. The ICE facility in the state stays full and they rarely accept those that are arrested so if our city arrests illegals, they're stuck with the bill of housing and feeding them. Our schools are stuck with the bill of their kids and our hospitals are stuck with caring for their sick since they won't pay.
But do you want to know the truth? Legal immigration will just go up if they crack down on illegal immigrants and illegal employers. Companies want the flood of labor. They will tell you companies can't find american people qualified to do those jobs
we don't have a border security problem. we have imbalance in market forces. how much is your national and social program going to cost? only the right eschews capitalism and capital plans, for their national and social plans.you can't even control substances.Prohibition only increases corruption which increases costs. Only the right, never gets it.a wall is not going to fix that. anything more than nationalism and socialism?
A wall is certainly going to help. There have been many cases of high profile illegal criminals who have been deported multiple times.
I do not accept that this nation is incapable of securing our borders.
People are easier to track. Bigger and with more of a footprint.
My point stands.
I do not accept that this nation is incapable of securing our borders.
natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.10USC311 makes that distinction.why do you believe that? have you read, 10USC311.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
SO, what is your confusion on this subject?
Non US citizens do not have a right to come here.
That was a meaningless statement that did not address my point.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
we don't have a border security problem.you can't even control substances.Prohibition only increases corruption which increases costs. Only the right, never gets it.A wall is certainly going to help. There have been many cases of high profile illegal criminals who have been deported multiple times.
I do not accept that this nation is incapable of securing our borders.
People are easier to track. Bigger and with more of a footprint.
My point stands.
I do not accept that this nation is incapable of securing our borders.
we have imbalance in market forces.
how much is your national and social program going to cost? only the right eschews capitalism and capital plans, for their national and social plans.
a market friendly work visa solves our border security and our illegal problem, and generates revenue in a market recognizable manner.
natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.10USC311 makes that distinction.By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
SO, what is your confusion on this subject?
Non US citizens do not have a right to come here.
That was a meaningless statement that did not address my point.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
have you ever read or even heard of, our Declaration of Independence?
In any case, you may not have enough social worth, to take the blame for giving our Statue of Liberty back to the French, regardless of how rich in lucre you may be.
Why do you think we have immigration? I mean we have all told them we don't want more people coming in so what is the official reason(s) we take in so many immigrants every year. We must want or need them. What is the official reason we bring in 500,000 immigrants every year after year.All illegal aliens are CRIMINALS, even the nice mommies. You can not tell CRIMINALS what to do, that is just how it is.I'll allow migrants to come pick fruit. We always have. But don't come and cut grass, do construction or maid work. Not illegally.Someone here on this board actually said do you want higher prices for food when I pressed the slave labor point
But do you want to know the truth? Legal immigration will just go up if they crack down on illegal immigrants and illegal employers. Companies want the flood of labor. They will tell you companies can't find american people qualified to do those jobs
And if we get rid of illegals expect that number to go up. More legal Arabs and Hispanics and Asians oh yes.
There is no reason to have any immigration, as long as there are unemployed Americans. Furthermore just because Democrats are looking the other way, and letting illegals get treated as slave labor, does not make it acceptable to moral Americans, like Trump
He fucking hired illegals you God damn fool! Omg how dumb are you?
You suggesting Republicans haven't looked the other way tells me you really don't get it
I'll allow migrants to come pick fruit. We always have. But don't come and cut grass, do construction or maid work. Not illegally.Someone here on this board actually said do you want higher prices for food when I pressed the slave labor pointYears ago I visited a local INS office to voice my anger over illegal aliens. WOW, was that ever an eye opener. Apparently Hispanic illegal aliens are not held to the same standards as legal immigrants from else where. Because Hispanic illegal aliens are in this moral/ethical twilight zone as they are exploited for cheap labor, which seems to be a saving grace. Hispanic illegal aliens allow themselves to be victimized by unethical employers, and unethical employers use "humanitarianism" as a hedge to exploit illegal aliens. What a mixed up mess. We don't need to build walls or raise the minimum wage, for that matter. No lectures, just use common sense and play fair. Then things will work out.Who's hiring them?I live in a border state where the minimum wage is 7.25. (7.25 x 8 = 58). You can go to most Home Depot or Lowe's parking lots every morning and hire an unskilled illegal for 35 bucks a day. They will work all day until the job is done, not just 8 hours. Same with a skilled mason or carpenter for a higher (negotiated) rate.
No rules or regulations to worry about. Immigration laws flagrantly broken every day and law enforcement doesn't do a damn thing about it. I asked a local cop about this a few years ago. He told me they don't arrest illegals unless they commit a felony. The ICE facility in the state stays full and they rarely accept those that are arrested so if our city arrests illegals, they're stuck with the bill of housing and feeding them. Our schools are stuck with the bill of their kids and our hospitals are stuck with caring for their sick since they won't pay.
Agreed.
But do you want to know the truth? Legal immigration will just go up if they crack down on illegal immigrants and illegal employers. Companies want the flood of labor. They will tell you companies can't find american people qualified to do those jobs
Companies aren't in charge. If they were, Hillary would have won.
When the companies lie, we tell them to STFU.
I'll allow migrants to come pick fruit. We always have. But don't come and cut grass, do construction or maid work. Not illegally.Someone here on this board actually said do you want higher prices for food when I pressed the slave labor pointYears ago I visited a local INS office to voice my anger over illegal aliens. WOW, was that ever an eye opener. Apparently Hispanic illegal aliens are not held to the same standards as legal immigrants from else where. Because Hispanic illegal aliens are in this moral/ethical twilight zone as they are exploited for cheap labor, which seems to be a saving grace. Hispanic illegal aliens allow themselves to be victimized by unethical employers, and unethical employers use "humanitarianism" as a hedge to exploit illegal aliens. What a mixed up mess. We don't need to build walls or raise the minimum wage, for that matter. No lectures, just use common sense and play fair. Then things will work out.Who's hiring them?I live in a border state where the minimum wage is 7.25. (7.25 x 8 = 58). You can go to most Home Depot or Lowe's parking lots every morning and hire an unskilled illegal for 35 bucks a day. They will work all day until the job is done, not just 8 hours. Same with a skilled mason or carpenter for a higher (negotiated) rate.
No rules or regulations to worry about. Immigration laws flagrantly broken every day and law enforcement doesn't do a damn thing about it. I asked a local cop about this a few years ago. He told me they don't arrest illegals unless they commit a felony. The ICE facility in the state stays full and they rarely accept those that are arrested so if our city arrests illegals, they're stuck with the bill of housing and feeding them. Our schools are stuck with the bill of their kids and our hospitals are stuck with caring for their sick since they won't pay.
Agreed.
But do you want to know the truth? Legal immigration will just go up if they crack down on illegal immigrants and illegal employers. Companies want the flood of labor. They will tell you companies can't find american people qualified to do those jobs
Companies aren't in charge. If they were, Hillary would have won.
When the companies lie, we tell them to STFU.
Why do you think we have immigration? I mean we have all told them we don't want more people coming in so what is the official reason(s) we take in so many immigrants every year. We must want or need them. What is the official reason we bring in 500,000 immigrants every year after year.All illegal aliens are CRIMINALS, even the nice mommies. You can not tell CRIMINALS what to do, that is just how it is.I'll allow migrants to come pick fruit. We always have. But don't come and cut grass, do construction or maid work. Not illegally.
But do you want to know the truth? Legal immigration will just go up if they crack down on illegal immigrants and illegal employers. Companies want the flood of labor. They will tell you companies can't find american people qualified to do those jobs
And if we get rid of illegals expect that number to go up. More legal Arabs and Hispanics and Asians oh yes.
There is no reason to have any immigration, as long as there are unemployed Americans. Furthermore just because Democrats are looking the other way, and letting illegals get treated as slave labor, does not make it acceptable to moral Americans, like Trump
He fucking hired illegals you God damn fool! Omg how dumb are you?
You suggesting Republicans haven't looked the other way tells me you really don't get it
Does that make a difference to an unemployed African American parent who has children to feed?
The USA has NO responsibility to feed and provide medical insurance to Mexicans, just because they are Mexicans.
Why do you think we have immigration? I mean we have all told them we don't want more people coming in so what is the official reason(s) we take in so many immigrants every year. We must want or need them. What is the official reason we bring in 500,000 immigrants every year after year.All illegal aliens are CRIMINALS, even the nice mommies. You can not tell CRIMINALS what to do, that is just how it is.
And if we get rid of illegals expect that number to go up. More legal Arabs and Hispanics and Asians oh yes.
There is no reason to have any immigration, as long as there are unemployed Americans. Furthermore just because Democrats are looking the other way, and letting illegals get treated as slave labor, does not make it acceptable to moral Americans, like Trump
He fucking hired illegals you God damn fool! Omg how dumb are you?
You suggesting Republicans haven't looked the other way tells me you really don't get it
Does that make a difference to an unemployed African American parent who has children to feed?
The USA has NO responsibility to feed and provide medical insurance to Mexicans, just because they are Mexicans.
Why are you making a statement that everyone agrees with and then pretending like I don't agree with that?
That isn't a border security problem but a market inspection problem. The several States merely need our federal Congress to be more ambitious and proactive regarding a market friendly visa, that includes a federal ID, for the market ease, and market convenience, of the several, United States. The general government should be generating revenue not merely dictating unfunded mandates.we don't have a border security problem.you can't even control substances.Prohibition only increases corruption which increases costs. Only the right, never gets it.
I do not accept that this nation is incapable of securing our borders.
People are easier to track. Bigger and with more of a footprint.
My point stands.
I do not accept that this nation is incapable of securing our borders.
The millions and millions of foreign citizens living here against our laws says otherwise.
we have imbalance in market forces.
Not enough, as shown by the stagnation of us wages.
how much is your national and social program going to cost? only the right eschews capitalism and capital plans, for their national and social plans.
No one supports unfettered capitalism, outside of some drunk college kid anarchists.
a market friendly work visa solves our border security and our illegal problem, and generates revenue in a market recognizable manner.
At the cost of permanent wage stagnation for the American citizens.
We have a Statue of Liberty and our Founding Fathers subscribed to the concept of natural rights, not merely, American (exceptionalism) Rights.natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.10USC311 makes that distinction.
SO, what is your confusion on this subject?
Non US citizens do not have a right to come here.
That was a meaningless statement that did not address my point.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
have you ever read or even heard of, our Declaration of Independence?
In any case, you may not have enough social worth, to take the blame for giving our Statue of Liberty back to the French, regardless of how rich in lucre you may be.
That was a meaningless statement that did not address my point.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
Retard, no one passed thru Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty illegally. Grow upWe have a Statue of Liberty and our Founding Fathers subscribed to the concept of natural rights, not merely, American (exceptionalism) Rights.natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.SO, what is your confusion on this subject?
Non US citizens do not have a right to come here.
That was a meaningless statement that did not address my point.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
have you ever read or even heard of, our Declaration of Independence?
In any case, you may not have enough social worth, to take the blame for giving our Statue of Liberty back to the French, regardless of how rich in lucre you may be.
That was a meaningless statement that did not address my point.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
i am not fantastical enough to believe, all immigrants Only came through that port. Our militia laws reflect our reality; not, right wing fantasy.Retard, no one passed thru Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty illegally. Grow upWe have a Statue of Liberty and our Founding Fathers subscribed to the concept of natural rights, not merely, American (exceptionalism) Rights.natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.
That was a meaningless statement that did not address my point.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
have you ever read or even heard of, our Declaration of Independence?
In any case, you may not have enough social worth, to take the blame for giving our Statue of Liberty back to the French, regardless of how rich in lucre you may be.
That was a meaningless statement that did not address my point.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
No matter, Ellis Island was considered the gateway to America, so if America really needed immigrants in 1954, the facility would have been renovated as the statue eventually was. So you are saying that you enjoy paying for the health insurance of 12 million illegal Mexicans?i am not fantastical enough to believe, all immigrants Only came through that port. Our militia laws reflect our reality; not, right wing fantasy.Retard, no one passed thru Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty illegally. Grow upWe have a Statue of Liberty and our Founding Fathers subscribed to the concept of natural rights, not merely, American (exceptionalism) Rights.natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.That was a meaningless statement that did not address my point.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
have you ever read or even heard of, our Declaration of Independence?
In any case, you may not have enough social worth, to take the blame for giving our Statue of Liberty back to the French, regardless of how rich in lucre you may be.
That was a meaningless statement that did not address my point.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
For some; it is Only one port of entry, specifically to "bailout" some, but not others.No matter, Ellis Island was considered the gateway to America, so if America really needed immigrants in 1954, the facility would have been renovated as the statue eventually was. So you are saying that you enjoy paying for the health insurance of 12 million illegal Mexicans?i am not fantastical enough to believe, all immigrants Only came through that port. Our militia laws reflect our reality; not, right wing fantasy.Retard, no one passed thru Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty illegally. Grow upWe have a Statue of Liberty and our Founding Fathers subscribed to the concept of natural rights, not merely, American (exceptionalism) Rights.natural rights are not Only American. we simply need a market friendly work visa.
have you ever read or even heard of, our Declaration of Independence?
In any case, you may not have enough social worth, to take the blame for giving our Statue of Liberty back to the French, regardless of how rich in lucre you may be.
That was a meaningless statement that did not address my point.
By definition a citizen of a nation state has the right to live there and a non-citizen does NOT.
I'll allow migrants to come pick fruit. We always have. But don't come and cut grass, do construction or maid work. Not illegally.Someone here on this board actually said do you want higher prices for food when I pressed the slave labor pointYears ago I visited a local INS office to voice my anger over illegal aliens. WOW, was that ever an eye opener. Apparently Hispanic illegal aliens are not held to the same standards as legal immigrants from else where. Because Hispanic illegal aliens are in this moral/ethical twilight zone as they are exploited for cheap labor, which seems to be a saving grace. Hispanic illegal aliens allow themselves to be victimized by unethical employers, and unethical employers use "humanitarianism" as a hedge to exploit illegal aliens. What a mixed up mess. We don't need to build walls or raise the minimum wage, for that matter. No lectures, just use common sense and play fair. Then things will work out.Who's hiring them?
Agreed.
But do you want to know the truth? Legal immigration will just go up if they crack down on illegal immigrants and illegal employers. Companies want the flood of labor. They will tell you companies can't find american people qualified to do those jobs
Companies aren't in charge. If they were, Hillary would have won.
When the companies lie, we tell them to STFU.
Stop being stupid. These corporations have invested heavily in the Republicans. You only mind when they bribe Democrats and you ignore they own your party too. You hold Democrats to a higher standard.
Three systems theorists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich have taken a database listing 37 million companies and investors worldwide and analyzed all 43,060 transnational corporations and share ownerships linking them. They built a model of who owns what and what their revenues are and mapped the whole edifice of economic power.
They discovered that global corporate control has a distinct bow-tie shape, with a dominant core of 147 firms radiating out from the middle. Each of these 147 own interlocking stakes of one another and together they control 40% of the wealth in the network. A total of 737 control 80% of it all.
