what so bad about socialism

dears, simply using the (other) People's tax monies is socialism.
Capitalism needs regulating and not everything should be run by capitalists.
Other than yours I could find no reference to Capitalism what are you talking about? Do you just post random words and thoughts to
message boards?
dear, true Capitalism is where those with the most gold make the most rules; not socialism and its concept of equality as Individuals, regardless of capital wealth.
 
dear, put up an encyclopedic reference or cede the point and the argument, due to simple shillery of not having a clue or a Cause.
I cede nothing show me authoritative sources citing encyclopedias as superior to dictionaries in definition.
dear, special pleading is just that, a fallacy.

Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership and/or social control[1] of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy,[2][3] as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.[4][5] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership (achieved by nationalization), citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[6] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[7]--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Ah I see you have no idea what an authority is.Wikipedia is not an accepted authority. The use of Wikipedia as reference material is sophomoric at best, ignorant at worst.
Since you bleat for an encyclopedic citation the following is from the Encyclopedia Britannica:
"A lexical definition simply reports the way in which a term is already used within a language community."
Lexical refers to lexicon. My use of the Merriam Webster definition is a lexical definition. Your allegation of it being a special pleading fails therefore.
dear, any encyclopedia is more authoritative than political-science jargon invented for the clueless and the Causeless, during the Cold War. That war is over and so is the need for that special pleading.

Socialism starts with a social Contract like our Constitutions. It really is that simple, except to the right.


Does your moms' basement seem to be closing in on you? Has your monitor been talking to you again? Are the bugs back under
you skin again? If so please, please tell you mom so she can make sure you get your meds.
still nothing but fallacy instead of a valid rebuttal? how typical of the clueless, the Causeless, and the right.
 
dears, simply using the (other) People's tax monies is socialism.
Capitalism needs regulating and not everything should be run by capitalists.

I have never seen any system in which capitalists ran everything.

It certainly isn't our system. And most of the systems where people claim as much, it's actually socialists running the companies. Like all those "private capitalists" companies in Tunisia, that just happened to all be run by members of the presidents family. All by random market forces I'm sure.

As for regulation, I'd be hard pressed to discover an example that actually was a benefit to the public. There was a documentary air a few years back, where at one point a guy in the auto industry listed off all the safety innovations found in Formula 1 racing cars, that are prevented by regulations from being introduced in production retail cars, and he also mentioned alternative cars that could not be sold retail, because regulations made it impossible to sell them to the public.

In fact there is a 'car' that is supposed to come onto the market sometime next year, with 3 wheels. The whole reason they made the vehicle with 3 wheels, is to avoid the expensive burden of regulations. (regulations on cars is massive, but 'car' is defined as 4 wheeled vehicle. 3 wheels avoids the regulations).

So as much as people claim regulations are so great, in reality, it only harms the consumer, at the benefit of the rich.
What ever you are referring to has nothing to do with the point being discussed. What is RCC I looked at the homepage and
found no "about us" I did find a request for donation.
dear, only shills have nothing but argumentum ad hominem instead of sound lines of reasoning.
Is mom not supervising your internet time like she's supposed to?
 
dears, simply using the (other) People's tax monies is socialism.
Capitalism needs regulating and not everything should be run by capitalists.

I have never seen any system in which capitalists ran everything.

It certainly isn't our system. And most of the systems where people claim as much, it's actually socialists running the companies. Like all those "private capitalists" companies in Tunisia, that just happened to all be run by members of the presidents family. All by random market forces I'm sure.

As for regulation, I'd be hard pressed to discover an example that actually was a benefit to the public. There was a documentary air a few years back, where at one point a guy in the auto industry listed off all the safety innovations found in Formula 1 racing cars, that are prevented by regulations from being introduced in production retail cars, and he also mentioned alternative cars that could not be sold retail, because regulations made it impossible to sell them to the public.

In fact there is a 'car' that is supposed to come onto the market sometime next year, with 3 wheels. The whole reason they made the vehicle with 3 wheels, is to avoid the expensive burden of regulations. (regulations on cars is massive, but 'car' is defined as 4 wheeled vehicle. 3 wheels avoids the regulations).

So as much as people claim regulations are so great, in reality, it only harms the consumer, at the benefit of the rich.
What ever you are referring to has nothing to do with the point being discussed. What is RCC I looked at the homepage and
found no "about us" I did find a request for donation.
dear, only shills have nothing but argumentum ad hominem instead of sound lines of reasoning.
Is mom not supervising your internet time like she's supposed to?
no clue, no Cause; i got it; shill.
 
dears, simply using the (other) People's tax monies is socialism.
Capitalism needs regulating and not everything should be run by capitalists.

I have never seen any system in which capitalists ran everything.

It certainly isn't our system. And most of the systems where people claim as much, it's actually socialists running the companies. Like all those "private capitalists" companies in Tunisia, that just happened to all be run by members of the presidents family. All by random market forces I'm sure.

As for regulation, I'd be hard pressed to discover an example that actually was a benefit to the public. There was a documentary air a few years back, where at one point a guy in the auto industry listed off all the safety innovations found in Formula 1 racing cars, that are prevented by regulations from being introduced in production retail cars, and he also mentioned alternative cars that could not be sold retail, because regulations made it impossible to sell them to the public.

In fact there is a 'car' that is supposed to come onto the market sometime next year, with 3 wheels. The whole reason they made the vehicle with 3 wheels, is to avoid the expensive burden of regulations. (regulations on cars is massive, but 'car' is defined as 4 wheeled vehicle. 3 wheels avoids the regulations).

So as much as people claim regulations are so great, in reality, it only harms the consumer, at the benefit of the rich.
Republicans got you brainwashed and your post proves it. Republicans talk like all regulations are bad. They are not. There are good regulations and there are bad regulations. I'm not worried about the car regulations you mentioned. I'm worried about companies polluting and corporations gouging and when companies get too greedy I want OUR government to regulate them and STOP them.

Like snowflakes, no two regulations are exactly the same.

Empty claims about brainwashing from the left, are both ironic and silly.

Moving on.

You claim that regulations stop companies from polluting, and yet I know of specific instances with the Ohio river, and elsewhere, where companies did deals with local authorities and communities on pollution controls, and then the EPA stepped in, and changed the deal making it so they could pollute more. Regulations allowed them to pollute MORE than they would have under local deals with local authorities and communities.

If anything, regulations make the rich, richer, and the poor, poorer.

dears, simply using the (other) People's tax monies is socialism.
Capitalism needs regulating and not everything should be run by capitalists.

I have never seen any system in which capitalists ran everything.

It certainly isn't our system. And most of the systems where people claim as much, it's actually socialists running the companies. Like all those "private capitalists" companies in Tunisia, that just happened to all be run by members of the presidents family. All by random market forces I'm sure.

As for regulation, I'd be hard pressed to discover an example that actually was a benefit to the public. There was a documentary air a few years back, where at one point a guy in the auto industry listed off all the safety innovations found in Formula 1 racing cars, that are prevented by regulations from being introduced in production retail cars, and he also mentioned alternative cars that could not be sold retail, because regulations made it impossible to sell them to the public.

In fact there is a 'car' that is supposed to come onto the market sometime next year, with 3 wheels. The whole reason they made the vehicle with 3 wheels, is to avoid the expensive burden of regulations. (regulations on cars is massive, but 'car' is defined as 4 wheeled vehicle. 3 wheels avoids the regulations).

So as much as people claim regulations are so great, in reality, it only harms the consumer, at the benefit of the rich.
What ever you are referring to has nothing to do with the point being discussed. What is RCC I looked at the homepage and
found no "about us" I did find a request for donation.

RCC is just my own podcast. It's basically podcast about the topics discussed on this forum. Nothing special. It's a hobby.

Sorry about butting into what you are discussing, but I bugs me when people talk about regulations, as if they do anything good. I have yet to see evidence of that.
 
dears, simply using the (other) People's tax monies is socialism.
Capitalism needs regulating and not everything should be run by capitalists.

I have never seen any system in which capitalists ran everything.

It certainly isn't our system. And most of the systems where people claim as much, it's actually socialists running the companies. Like all those "private capitalists" companies in Tunisia, that just happened to all be run by members of the presidents family. All by random market forces I'm sure.

As for regulation, I'd be hard pressed to discover an example that actually was a benefit to the public. There was a documentary air a few years back, where at one point a guy in the auto industry listed off all the safety innovations found in Formula 1 racing cars, that are prevented by regulations from being introduced in production retail cars, and he also mentioned alternative cars that could not be sold retail, because regulations made it impossible to sell them to the public.

In fact there is a 'car' that is supposed to come onto the market sometime next year, with 3 wheels. The whole reason they made the vehicle with 3 wheels, is to avoid the expensive burden of regulations. (regulations on cars is massive, but 'car' is defined as 4 wheeled vehicle. 3 wheels avoids the regulations).

So as much as people claim regulations are so great, in reality, it only harms the consumer, at the benefit of the rich.
Republicans got you brainwashed and your post proves it. Republicans talk like all regulations are bad. They are not. There are good regulations and there are bad regulations. I'm not worried about the car regulations you mentioned. I'm worried about companies polluting and corporations gouging and when companies get too greedy I want OUR government to regulate them and STOP them.

Like snowflakes, no two regulations are exactly the same.

Empty claims about brainwashing from the left, are both ironic and silly.

Moving on.

You claim that regulations stop companies from polluting, and yet I know of specific instances with the Ohio river, and elsewhere, where companies did deals with local authorities and communities on pollution controls, and then the EPA stepped in, and changed the deal making it so they could pollute more. Regulations allowed them to pollute MORE than they would have under local deals with local authorities and communities.

If anything, regulations make the rich, richer, and the poor, poorer.

dears, simply using the (other) People's tax monies is socialism.
Capitalism needs regulating and not everything should be run by capitalists.

I have never seen any system in which capitalists ran everything.

It certainly isn't our system. And most of the systems where people claim as much, it's actually socialists running the companies. Like all those "private capitalists" companies in Tunisia, that just happened to all be run by members of the presidents family. All by random market forces I'm sure.

As for regulation, I'd be hard pressed to discover an example that actually was a benefit to the public. There was a documentary air a few years back, where at one point a guy in the auto industry listed off all the safety innovations found in Formula 1 racing cars, that are prevented by regulations from being introduced in production retail cars, and he also mentioned alternative cars that could not be sold retail, because regulations made it impossible to sell them to the public.

In fact there is a 'car' that is supposed to come onto the market sometime next year, with 3 wheels. The whole reason they made the vehicle with 3 wheels, is to avoid the expensive burden of regulations. (regulations on cars is massive, but 'car' is defined as 4 wheeled vehicle. 3 wheels avoids the regulations).

So as much as people claim regulations are so great, in reality, it only harms the consumer, at the benefit of the rich.
What ever you are referring to has nothing to do with the point being discussed. What is RCC I looked at the homepage and
found no "about us" I did find a request for donation.

RCC is just my own podcast. It's basically podcast about the topics discussed on this forum. Nothing special. It's a hobby.

Sorry about butting into what you are discussing, but I bugs me when people talk about regulations, as if they do anything good. I have yet to see evidence of that.
I love libertarians who think they make perfect sense but they are just bat shit crazy.
 
dears, simply using the (other) People's tax monies is socialism.
Capitalism needs regulating and not everything should be run by capitalists.

I have never seen any system in which capitalists ran everything.

It certainly isn't our system. And most of the systems where people claim as much, it's actually socialists running the companies. Like all those "private capitalists" companies in Tunisia, that just happened to all be run by members of the presidents family. All by random market forces I'm sure.

As for regulation, I'd be hard pressed to discover an example that actually was a benefit to the public. There was a documentary air a few years back, where at one point a guy in the auto industry listed off all the safety innovations found in Formula 1 racing cars, that are prevented by regulations from being introduced in production retail cars, and he also mentioned alternative cars that could not be sold retail, because regulations made it impossible to sell them to the public.

In fact there is a 'car' that is supposed to come onto the market sometime next year, with 3 wheels. The whole reason they made the vehicle with 3 wheels, is to avoid the expensive burden of regulations. (regulations on cars is massive, but 'car' is defined as 4 wheeled vehicle. 3 wheels avoids the regulations).

So as much as people claim regulations are so great, in reality, it only harms the consumer, at the benefit of the rich.
What ever you are referring to has nothing to do with the point being discussed. What is RCC I looked at the homepage and
found no "about us" I did find a request for donation.
dear, only shills have nothing but argumentum ad hominem instead of sound lines of reasoning.

daniels sound reasoning is that capitalism caused the Great Depression and that China didn't switch to capitalism and instantly eliminate 40% of the entire world's poverty.
 
dears, simply using the (other) People's tax monies is socialism.
Capitalism needs regulating and not everything should be run by capitalists.

I have never seen any system in which capitalists ran everything.

It certainly isn't our system. And most of the systems where people claim as much, it's actually socialists running the companies. Like all those "private capitalists" companies in Tunisia, that just happened to all be run by members of the presidents family. All by random market forces I'm sure.

As for regulation, I'd be hard pressed to discover an example that actually was a benefit to the public. There was a documentary air a few years back, where at one point a guy in the auto industry listed off all the safety innovations found in Formula 1 racing cars, that are prevented by regulations from being introduced in production retail cars, and he also mentioned alternative cars that could not be sold retail, because regulations made it impossible to sell them to the public.

In fact there is a 'car' that is supposed to come onto the market sometime next year, with 3 wheels. The whole reason they made the vehicle with 3 wheels, is to avoid the expensive burden of regulations. (regulations on cars is massive, but 'car' is defined as 4 wheeled vehicle. 3 wheels avoids the regulations).

So as much as people claim regulations are so great, in reality, it only harms the consumer, at the benefit of the rich.
What ever you are referring to has nothing to do with the point being discussed. What is RCC I looked at the homepage and
found no "about us" I did find a request for donation.
dear, only shills have nothing but argumentum ad hominem instead of sound lines of reasoning.

daniels sound reasoning is that capitalism caused the Great Depression and that China didn't switch to capitalism and instantly eliminate 40% of the entire world's poverty.

Actually, that was Milton's Friedman's reasoning.
You know, the Fed didn't act fast enough to make up for the fuck ups of Free Market Capitalism.
 
dears, simply using the (other) People's tax monies is socialism.
Capitalism needs regulating and not everything should be run by capitalists.

I have never seen any system in which capitalists ran everything.

It certainly isn't our system. And most of the systems where people claim as much, it's actually socialists running the companies. Like all those "private capitalists" companies in Tunisia, that just happened to all be run by members of the presidents family. All by random market forces I'm sure.

As for regulation, I'd be hard pressed to discover an example that actually was a benefit to the public. There was a documentary air a few years back, where at one point a guy in the auto industry listed off all the safety innovations found in Formula 1 racing cars, that are prevented by regulations from being introduced in production retail cars, and he also mentioned alternative cars that could not be sold retail, because regulations made it impossible to sell them to the public.

In fact there is a 'car' that is supposed to come onto the market sometime next year, with 3 wheels. The whole reason they made the vehicle with 3 wheels, is to avoid the expensive burden of regulations. (regulations on cars is massive, but 'car' is defined as 4 wheeled vehicle. 3 wheels avoids the regulations).

So as much as people claim regulations are so great, in reality, it only harms the consumer, at the benefit of the rich.
What ever you are referring to has nothing to do with the point being discussed. What is RCC I looked at the homepage and
found no "about us" I did find a request for donation.
dear, only shills have nothing but argumentum ad hominem instead of sound lines of reasoning.

daniels sound reasoning is that capitalism caused the Great Depression and that China didn't switch to capitalism and instantly eliminate 40% of the entire world's poverty.
dear, why not make up more accurate, red herrings. Capitalism failed in 1929 and had to be bailed out by Socialism, like usual.
 
Capitalism needs regulating and not everything should be run by capitalists.

I have never seen any system in which capitalists ran everything.

It certainly isn't our system. And most of the systems where people claim as much, it's actually socialists running the companies. Like all those "private capitalists" companies in Tunisia, that just happened to all be run by members of the presidents family. All by random market forces I'm sure.

As for regulation, I'd be hard pressed to discover an example that actually was a benefit to the public. There was a documentary air a few years back, where at one point a guy in the auto industry listed off all the safety innovations found in Formula 1 racing cars, that are prevented by regulations from being introduced in production retail cars, and he also mentioned alternative cars that could not be sold retail, because regulations made it impossible to sell them to the public.

In fact there is a 'car' that is supposed to come onto the market sometime next year, with 3 wheels. The whole reason they made the vehicle with 3 wheels, is to avoid the expensive burden of regulations. (regulations on cars is massive, but 'car' is defined as 4 wheeled vehicle. 3 wheels avoids the regulations).

So as much as people claim regulations are so great, in reality, it only harms the consumer, at the benefit of the rich.
What ever you are referring to has nothing to do with the point being discussed. What is RCC I looked at the homepage and
found no "about us" I did find a request for donation.
dear, only shills have nothing but argumentum ad hominem instead of sound lines of reasoning.

daniels sound reasoning is that capitalism caused the Great Depression and that China didn't switch to capitalism and instantly eliminate 40% of the entire world's poverty.
dear, why not make up more accurate, red herrings. Capitalism failed in 1929 and had to be bailed out by Socialism, like usual.
Well, yeah. MF said so himself...Too much foreign investment.
Are you incapable of going on YouTube and searching for MF's video on The Great Depression?
 
DemocRATS = Socialists

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I have never seen any system in which capitalists ran everything.

It certainly isn't our system. And most of the systems where people claim as much, it's actually socialists running the companies. Like all those "private capitalists" companies in Tunisia, that just happened to all be run by members of the presidents family. All by random market forces I'm sure.

As for regulation, I'd be hard pressed to discover an example that actually was a benefit to the public. There was a documentary air a few years back, where at one point a guy in the auto industry listed off all the safety innovations found in Formula 1 racing cars, that are prevented by regulations from being introduced in production retail cars, and he also mentioned alternative cars that could not be sold retail, because regulations made it impossible to sell them to the public.

In fact there is a 'car' that is supposed to come onto the market sometime next year, with 3 wheels. The whole reason they made the vehicle with 3 wheels, is to avoid the expensive burden of regulations. (regulations on cars is massive, but 'car' is defined as 4 wheeled vehicle. 3 wheels avoids the regulations).

So as much as people claim regulations are so great, in reality, it only harms the consumer, at the benefit of the rich.
What ever you are referring to has nothing to do with the point being discussed. What is RCC I looked at the homepage and
found no "about us" I did find a request for donation.
dear, only shills have nothing but argumentum ad hominem instead of sound lines of reasoning.

daniels sound reasoning is that capitalism caused the Great Depression and that China didn't switch to capitalism and instantly eliminate 40% of the entire world's poverty.
dear, why not make up more accurate, red herrings. Capitalism failed in 1929 and had to be bailed out by Socialism, like usual.
Well, yeah. MF said so himself...Too much foreign investment.
Are you incapable of going on YouTube and searching for MF's video on The Great Depression?
no, dear; he didn't; because, he knows it was the outright communism of our wartime economy that finally bailed out capitalism and ended the Great Depression and the typical response of the right regarding zoning ordinances for "Hooverville's".
 
What ever you are referring to has nothing to do with the point being discussed. What is RCC I looked at the homepage and
found no "about us" I did find a request for donation.
dear, only shills have nothing but argumentum ad hominem instead of sound lines of reasoning.

daniels sound reasoning is that capitalism caused the Great Depression and that China didn't switch to capitalism and instantly eliminate 40% of the entire world's poverty.
dear, why not make up more accurate, red herrings. Capitalism failed in 1929 and had to be bailed out by Socialism, like usual.
Well, yeah. MF said so himself...Too much foreign investment.
Are you incapable of going on YouTube and searching for MF's video on The Great Depression?
no, dear; he didn't; because, he knows it was the outright communism of our wartime economy that finally bailed out capitalism and ended the Great Depression and the typical response of the right regarding zoning ordinances for "Hooverville's".

It is true that prior to Dickhead Cheney, wartime supplies were manufactures in the US, thus boosting the economy.
Scumbag Cheney off-shored our war.
 
dear, only shills have nothing but argumentum ad hominem instead of sound lines of reasoning.

daniels sound reasoning is that capitalism caused the Great Depression and that China didn't switch to capitalism and instantly eliminate 40% of the entire world's poverty.
dear, why not make up more accurate, red herrings. Capitalism failed in 1929 and had to be bailed out by Socialism, like usual.
Well, yeah. MF said so himself...Too much foreign investment.
Are you incapable of going on YouTube and searching for MF's video on The Great Depression?
no, dear; he didn't; because, he knows it was the outright communism of our wartime economy that finally bailed out capitalism and ended the Great Depression and the typical response of the right regarding zoning ordinances for "Hooverville's".

It is true that prior to Dickhead Cheney, wartime supplies were manufactures in the US, thus boosting the economy.
Scumbag Cheney off-shored our war.
an opportunity cost forgone, is production runs as long as our wars on the abstractions of crime, drugs, poverty, and terror; combined; and a fixed Standard for (Post) Infrastructure upgrades to state-of-the-Art, whenever possible.
 
daniels sound reasoning is that capitalism caused the Great Depression and that China didn't switch to capitalism and instantly eliminate 40% of the entire world's poverty.
dear, why not make up more accurate, red herrings. Capitalism failed in 1929 and had to be bailed out by Socialism, like usual.
Well, yeah. MF said so himself...Too much foreign investment.
Are you incapable of going on YouTube and searching for MF's video on The Great Depression?
no, dear; he didn't; because, he knows it was the outright communism of our wartime economy that finally bailed out capitalism and ended the Great Depression and the typical response of the right regarding zoning ordinances for "Hooverville's".

It is true that prior to Dickhead Cheney, wartime supplies were manufactures in the US, thus boosting the economy.
Scumbag Cheney off-shored our war.
an opportunity cost forgone, is production runs as long as our wars on the abstractions of crime, drugs, poverty, and terror; combined; and a fixed Standard for (Post) Infrastructure upgrades to state-of-the-Art, whenever possible.

Both parties have Clubs and Small Business Authorities around the country.
Many patronage jobs are created for these problems to reward members who go to Meetings, Rallies and Political Fundraising Dinners.
These jobs have to be perpetual to give people a reason to support a party.
A sham and a shame.
 
dear, why not make up more accurate, red herrings. Capitalism failed in 1929 and had to be bailed out by Socialism, like usual.
Well, yeah. MF said so himself...Too much foreign investment.
Are you incapable of going on YouTube and searching for MF's video on The Great Depression?
no, dear; he didn't; because, he knows it was the outright communism of our wartime economy that finally bailed out capitalism and ended the Great Depression and the typical response of the right regarding zoning ordinances for "Hooverville's".

It is true that prior to Dickhead Cheney, wartime supplies were manufactures in the US, thus boosting the economy.
Scumbag Cheney off-shored our war.
an opportunity cost forgone, is production runs as long as our wars on the abstractions of crime, drugs, poverty, and terror; combined; and a fixed Standard for (Post) Infrastructure upgrades to state-of-the-Art, whenever possible.

Both parties have Clubs and Small Business Authorities around the country.
Many patronage jobs are created for these problems to reward members who go to Meetings, Rallies and Political Fundraising Dinners.
These jobs have to be perpetual to give people a reason to support a party.
A sham and a shame.
i believe we should be upgrading infrastructure with the Peoples' tax monies rather than wars on the abstractions of crime, drugs, poverty, and terror.
 

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