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Back to the subject, with an example. The fat dude hopes that no one knows this, but he states that there are no left handed guns. That's a flat out lie. Why it was even relevant is beyond me.
But crooked prosecutors have been playing little tricks like this for a long dayum time. Hoping and praying the jurors are too stupid to realize what's fact or fiction.
37:30 mark comes the stupid comment.
That’s not quite correct. In some jurisdictions, to preserve an argument for appeal, an objection not only must be made, it must be made in a timely fashion.There is nothing in closing arguments that must be based on fact. It is the lawyers' chance to lie their asses off to make their cases. They could have said it was a BB gun. There are no objections allowed in closings.
I sat on a jury MANY years ago and that point was made during the trial. A lawyer can say the sky is fuscia and Hawaii sunk under the waves in closing arguments if they so desire. The testimony has been closed when the two sides rest.That’s not quite correct. In some jurisdictions, to preserve an argument for appeal, an objection not only must be made, it must be made in a timely fashion.
No lawyer is supposed to lie his or her ass off. Sure it happens from time to time. But that doesn’t mean it ever is allowed to. One of my only negative comments about the defense, in fact, is that I think I should have heard more objections even on summation.
There is nothing in closing arguments that must be based on fact. It is the lawyers' chance to lie their asses off to make their cases. They could have said it was a BB gun. There are no objections allowed in closings.
YoursTruly
Did you run out of tinfoil dude? I can spare enough for you to fashion a new cap!
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Premeditation in this case would mean Rittenhouse intended to put himself in the position of being by himself and chased by a mob of anarchists determined to beat him senseless. Do you really think that's the case, Donald?In Canada and other democracies the killer wouldn't have even attempted to go hunting people with his military style weapon on public streets.
But Kyle did and it can be said to be pre-meditated.
At least the judge disallowed the self defense claim on one of the charges. Now the judge is only left with finding an excuse to reduce the penalty to a slap on the wrist.
I believe he would have had to have known who the victims would be to prove premeditation.Premeditation in this case
A double edged sword, in my opinion.DNA has changed the world. It's helped good prosecutors send actual guilty people to prison. It's helped free innocent ones. It's brought families together.
The judge didn’t disallow anything. He just allowed the prosecution to attempt to argue it in their closing argument.In Canada and other democracies the killer wouldn't have even attempted to go hunting people with his military style weapon on public streets.
But Kyle did and it can be said to be pre-meditated.
At least the judge disallowed the self defense claim on one of the charges. Now the judge is only left with finding an excuse to reduce the penalty to a slap on the wrist.
Yep and even fewer of you speculate about arresting people for “hate speech”.I hear you. In Canada very few of us even speculate on the possibility of needed to kill each other on our streets.
I know what you mean. I don't let anyone take my picture if I can help it, I might find out that I'm liable for child support going back a long way all over the country. LOLA double edged sword, in my opinion.
I have wondered how many people have had a DNA test for whatever reason and discovered that son, daughter, dad is not who they believed all those years.
There has to have been a lot of bombshells.
California has a larger population than all of Canada.Our gun thing here is based on fear. And partially for good reason. We have a LOT of violent thugs in our country. But then again, our population is EXTREMELY higher than yours. I think y'alls population is about the same our one state of California. We have a lot more good people here. But a lot more bad too.
That’s really funny since gun violence has been increasing In Canada for the past twenty years while it has been decreasing in the USA for the same period.Living in denial doesn't change the facts canuck--maybe you should look on your side of the border and stay out of ours. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fact-check-gun-violence-1.6166328
He dismissed the gun charge because there is a loophole in it that Kyle fell into. Something the Prosecution should have known.Why did that judge dismiss the gun charge?
Was it worth it to blow the cover of trying to claim it was an unbiased court?
If there is no guilt found by the jury on the existing charges then the effort will be proven to be worthwhile. The severity of the gun charge in Kyle's case would have demanded the maximum 9 months in jail.
I'm still betting on a 5 year suspended sentence.
Why is everybody else so afraid of making a guess?
Nope, almost identical but Canada is slightly lower, 38,204,788. Canada Population (2021) - Worldometer . CA, 39,613,493, California Population 2021 (Demographics, Maps, Graphs)California has a larger population than all of Canada.
That’s what is known in legal circles as a loophole in a badly written law.The law says 16 and under blah blah blah. Then 18 & over blah blah blah.. Kyle was 17.
Use a little logic for a change. If Rittenhouse had been “hunting” there would have been a much higher body count and he would have been carrying more than the single magazine that was in the rifle. When I was in the Army and it was “hunting” Vietnam Cong and North Vietnamese Regulars, the standard load was five twenty round magazines. If Rittenhouse intended to “hunt” rioters he would have carried multiple magazines.You will already know of standards adhered to by Canada and most of the world's other democracies on disallowing killers to go hunting for people.
Is it a matter of pride that American permits the sort of behaviour demonstrated by Rittenhouse? Or is there shame attached?
That’s a million and a half higher. California does have a larger population.Nope, almost identical but Canada is slightly lower, 38,204,788. Canada Population (2021) - Worldometer . CA, 39,613,493, California Population 2021 (Demographics, Maps, Graphs)
So it is possible that a poor but good kid will be sacrificed so the city will not be burned down again and the mayor will save his job.Actually the Mayor is in all kinds of hot water politically for encouraging and allowing the riots because he is a democrat and wanted the rioting just like Seattle and Portland.
So he has been breathing down the DA and assistant DA to get a prosecution in this case regardless of how it's accomplished.
That's why Grosskreutz hasn't been charged with anything and protected.
That's why everyone shot by Kyle is a hero to the DA.
And it's absolutely disgusting as to why this is happening...they actually know the truth but they just don't care. They would rather flush a poor but good kid than face the consequences of their own actions.
That's a literal David vs Goliath.
