What We Believe In....

[PoliticalChic]

1. There is no Far Right in this country....only a Far Left....

Disagreed, but feel free to dream on, girl.

What???

You require yet another spanking???

No prob:

The terms far right and far left are relative to some understood center.

To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center.
American traditions, values, and history represent that center.


Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer.'


"WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court on Monday narrowly upheld the centuries-old tradition of offering prayers to open government meetings, even if the prayers are overwhelmingly Christian and citizens are encouraged to participate.

The 5-4 ruling, supported by the court's conservative justices and opposed by its liberals, was based in large part on the history of legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution." Supreme Court upholds prayer at government meetings



See this? "... legislative prayer dating back to the Framers of the Constitution."
Clearly this is at the center of American tradition.


But... "Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job

Yesterday, Joe Kennedy, an assistant high-school–football coach in Bremerton, Wash., was suspended. His offense? Kneeling for a short on-field prayer after football games. According to multiple news reports, for the last several years Kennedy has waited until each game ends and the players leave the field before walking to the 50-yard line and offering a quiet prayer for his students. He never asks anyone to join him, nor does he stop anyone who wants to do so."
Lawless Judges Have Created an America Where Praying Gets a Man Suspended from His Job


So....as far as the concept of prayer in the public arena, where do we find the radical position?

Hence, far left.


If you have used the fallacy "Far Right," see if you can come up with any radical positions by conservatives, the right wing.


If you need more examples...just say the word.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hey PoliticalChic chickadee: Did you hear about how the Republicans in Congress decided to keep Obamacare for themselves, in this newest bill that strips it from everyone else?

Now, why on earth would they want to keep a failed disaster of a health care law for themselves?

Wait.....aren't you the moron who wrote this?

"All You Have To Know About Obama

• Best president in over 50 years
• Restored respect for America globally

That was you, right??????

 

[Divine Wind]

Question:
"What is it like to view the world in simply black and white terms?"

Answer:
Imperative....

That explains a lot. So in the war to come, it's take no prisoners, kill all who don't swear fealty to the cause regardless of age or gender.

Awesome. Some people need killing, but a pure black and white view of the world seems wasteful of human assets.

 

[Divine Wind]

What???

You require yet another spanking??....

Have another wine and do your best honey.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What???

You require yet another spanking??....

Have another wine and do your best honey.

As your attempt to dispute my well constructed argument that there is no Far Right, can only be characterized as ...comatose.....
...I'll chalk this up to one more of my victories.


Of course, should you refer to Far Right again, it will mark you as a liar and an individual of low character.

Time will tell.

 

[Divine Wind]

As your attempt to dispute my well constructed argument that there is no Far Right...

Ummm, not as well constructed a fantasy as you want to believe. Do you also believe breast enlargement is good for women? Any other plastic surgery for purely cosmetic reasons? Drinking a box of wine a week?

 

[PoliticalChic]

As your attempt to dispute my well constructed argument that there is no Far Right...

Ummm, not as well constructed a fantasy as you want to believe. Do you also believe breast enlargement is good for women? Any other plastic surgery for purely cosmetic reasons? Drinking a box of wine a week?

Seems I've left you mumbling and sputtering.....just the way you began.

 

[Divine Wind]

As your attempt to dispute my well constructed argument that there is no Far Right...

Ummm, not as well constructed a fantasy as you want to believe. Do you also believe breast enlargement is good for women? Any other plastic surgery for purely cosmetic reasons? Drinking a box of wine a week?

Seems I've left you mumbling and sputtering.....just the way you began.

LOL. Cheers, baby. Is it White Zinfandel or Chardonnay tonight?

 

[PoliticalChic]

As your attempt to dispute my well constructed argument that there is no Far Right...

Ummm, not as well constructed a fantasy as you want to believe. Do you also believe breast enlargement is good for women? Any other plastic surgery for purely cosmetic reasons? Drinking a box of wine a week?

Seems I've left you mumbling and sputtering.....just the way you began.

LOL. Cheers, baby. Is it White Zinfandel or Chardonnay tonight?

I fully understand why you'd rather change the subject....but it makes no diff....

You will always be exactly what you are today.

 

[Divine Wind]

As your attempt to dispute my well constructed argument that there is no Far Right...

Ummm, not as well constructed a fantasy as you want to believe. Do you also believe breast enlargement is good for women? Any other plastic surgery for purely cosmetic reasons? Drinking a box of wine a week?

Seems I've left you mumbling and sputtering.....just the way you began.

LOL. Cheers, baby. Is it White Zinfandel or Chardonnay tonight?

I fully understand why you'd rather change the subject....but it makes no diff....

You will always be exactly what you are today.

Not quite true, but close. What will you be tomorrow? Next year? Five years from now?

 

[Redfish]

allowing women to vote was not a liberal/conservative issue. It was a right/wrong issue and the country got it right. everything is not partisan, once you grasp that you might gain some cred.

You are hypocrite redux. The suffrage movement was progressive and moral, don't you get that? The most regressive conservatives states, mostly in the South, would not support the proposed amendment.

wrong again. the womens suffrage movement was conservative. Its conservatives who believe that all people are equal and should have an equal voice in government. Its you libs who want to limit free speech, suppress the vote, and manipulate the electorate.

Right that is why conservative men and no women were in the group who made up the GOP TrumpTaxCut/ health care non plan.

Pro women voting were progressives. If conservatives had their way , they'd be barefoot and pg.

if it was a group of black females and came up with the same bill, would you hate them too?

sounds like you are the racist and sexist in this discussion.

fallacy of false dichotomy

only you are talking about black females

you are lost in this discussion

isn't black female the opposite of white male? I was just pointing out the other poster's hypocrisy

 

[Redfish]

PC, the NK fascist, is once again lost.

The Constitution has a supremacy clause that makes the states inferior.

End of discussion.

does that apply to sanctuary cities when they ignore federal law?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Then let the feds enforce the law, redfish.

You need to start thinking for yourself.

 

[Hum Dinger]

The Political Compass above reveals that Trump is more Authoritarian than any of the other names.

Yup. If we have a shooting revolution in this country, it will be a 3-way fight; freedom lovers shooting authoritarian assholes.

I'm all set for sniping:

So you dream of shooting people and say that THEY are authoritarian?

Could you possibly be that stupid?

I agree.....and fervently hope you have the same response here:
"Attacks Against Conservatives

July 2016:

-A Hillary Clinton supporter lights a flag on fire and attacks a Trump supporter in Pittsburgh.

-Protesters jumped on cars, stole hats, fought with and threw eggs at Trump supporters outside a Trump rally in downtown San Jose. Trump supporters sued San Jose over the violence.

August 2016:

-Anti-Trump protesters attacked pushed, spit on and verbally harassed attendees forced to walk a “gauntlet” as they left a Trump fundraiser in Minneapolis, Minn., and beat an elderly man. Protesters also attacked Trump’s motorcade.

–A Tennessee man was assaulted at a garage sale for being a Trump supporter.

-A Trump supporter in New Jersey was attacked with a crowbar on the street.

September 2016:

-Protesters in El Cajon, Calif., chased and beat up a Trump supporter.

October 2016:

-A GOP office in North Carolina was firebombed and spray painted with “Nazi Republicans get out of town or else.”

November 2016:

-A high school student was attacked after she wrote that she supported Trump on social media. The perpetrator ripped her glasses off and punched her in the face.

-The president of Cornell University’s College Republicans was assaulted the night after Trump won the election.

-Students protesting Trump punched and kicked a Maryland high school student wearing a Make America Great Again hat.

-A high school student was arrested in Florida after he punched a classmate for carrying a Trump sign at school.

-A group of black men in Chicago attacked a white man while raging against Trump.

-Maryland high school students punched a student who was demonstrating in support of Trump, and then kicked him repeatedly while he was on the ground.

-“You support Trump. You hate Mexicans,” a California high school student yelled at a Trump supporter, before viciously beating the girl.

-An anti-bullying ambassador was arrested for shoving a 74-year-old man to the ground in a fight outside Trump tower where people upset over his win had gathered. The woman tied to Black Lives Matter caused the man to hit his head on the sidewalk.

-A Texas elementary school student was beaten by his classmates for voting for Trump in a mock election.

-Two men punched and kicked a Connecticut man who was standing with an American flag and a Trump sign.

December 2016:

-A Trump supporter was beaten and dragged by a car.

January 2017:

-A Trump supporter was knocked unconscious after airport protesters repeatedly beat him on the head.

-A Trump supporter was attacked after putting out a fire started by anti-Trump protesters.

-When Trump protesters encountered a driver with a pro-Trump flag on his car, they surrounded the vehicle, ripped off and began burning the flag, and pounded the car. They also punctured on the tires.

February 2017:

-California GOP Rep. Tom McClintock had to be escorted to his car after a town hall because of angry protesters. The tires of at least four vehicles were slashed.

-Protestors knocked a 71-year-old female staffer for California GOP Rep. Dana Rohrabacher unconscious during a protest outside the representative’s office.

-Milo Yiannopoulos speech at the University of California-Berkeley was cancelled after rioters set the campus on fire and threw rocks through windows. Milo tweeted that one of his supporters wearing a Trump hat was thrown to the ground and kicked.

March 2017:

-Masked protesters at Middlebury College rushed AEI scholar and political scientist Charles Murray and professor Allison Stranger, pushing and shoving Murray and grabbing Stranger by her hair and twisting her neck as they were leaving a campus building. Stranger suffered a concussion. Protesters then surrounded the car they got into, rocking it back and forth and jumping on the hood.

April 2017:

-A parade in Portland, Ore.,was canceled after threats of violence were made against a Republican organization.

-Fears of violent protests shut down Ann Coulter’s UC Berkeley speech. Campus police had gathered intel on protesters who were planning to commit violence.

May 2017:

– Republican Rep. Tom Garrett, his family and his dog were targeted by a series of repeated death threats deemed credible by authorities.

-FBI agents arrested a person for threatening to shoot Republican Rep. Martha McSally over her support for Trump.

-Police in Tennessee charged a woman for allegedly trying to run Republican Rep. David Kustoff off the road.

-Police in North Dakota ejected a man after he became physical with Republican Rep. Kevin Cramer at a town hall.

-A former professor was arrested after police said they identified him on video beating Trump supporters with a U-shaped bike lock, leaving three people with “significant injuries.”

June 2017:

-James Hodgkinson opened fire on a congressional GOP baseball practice, injuring five, including House Majority Whip Steve Scalise.

-Republican Rep. Claudia Tenney received an email threat that read, “One down, 216 to go,” shortly after the shooting at the Republican congressional baseball practice.

-A man driving a white Malibu reportedly fired several shots at a man driving a truck displaying a “Make America Great Again” flag in Indiana."
This List Of Attacks Against Conservatives Is Mind Blowing

I agree that anyone that uses violence to force their political opinion on others, or because they are angry about other's political opinions, is authoritarian and fundamentally anti-American.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I agree that anyone that uses violence to force their political opinion on others, or because they are angry about other's political opinions, is authoritarian and fundamentally anti-American.

Oh, I believe there are fundamentally American authoritarian strains in the far left and the far right of our nation.

 

[Chuz Life]

You left out your belief in horseshit.

We believe that libtardz are full of horseshit.

Thanks.

 

[Chuz Life]

...versus what they believe in.


That's the way Mark Levin put it in comparing the traditional American view, that of our Founders, and the Progressive view, formed in the bubbling cauldron stirred by the three witches, Hegel and Marx and Rousseau.


Levin gives the political juxtaposition, thus:


1. We believe in the Constitution, they believe in centralized power.

2. We believe in individualism, they believe in conformity

3. We believe in private property, they believe in collective property

4. We believe in prosperity, they believe in redistribution

5. We believe in separation of powers, they believe in a single administrative state

6. We believe in eternal truths, they believe in situational ethics

7. We believe in cultural stability, they believe in constant transformation

8. We believe in real science, they believe in social science

9. We believe in the rights of man, they believe in the power of government

10. We believe in liberty, they believe in authoritarianism

11. We believe in education, they believe in indoctrination

12. We believe in a civil society, they believe in a federal Leviathan.








The time to restore America is almost past.

In the words of the great philosopher, Yogi...
"When you come to a fork in the road....take it."

We believe that a child's life and rights begin at conception, they believe that neither begins until the child lives too long and develops past an arbitrarily drawn point where they just can't be denied anymore.

 

[Hum Dinger]

...versus what they believe in.


" We believe in the Constitution, they believe in centralized power."

I don't have to beyond that statement to show just how stupid you and Mark Levin are:

The U.S. Constitution is the document that created the U.S. Federal government..A CENTRALIZED POWER!

Saying that you are for the Constitution, but against centralized power is just plain idiotic. Apparently you do not have the intelligence to understand what the U.S. Constitution is.

Clearly you have never read the Constitution...exactly what I'd expect.

When you do, have someone explain Article 1, section 8 to you.

After some time mulling it over, you may, in fact, recognize that this federal government is not the one memorialized in the Constitution.


Then again....based on your lack of ability....you many not recognize it.

Whether you think the Government has exceeded the powers granted in the Constitution, the fact remains that the Constitution created the Federal government - a 'Centralized power'.

So it's obvious that your statement:

"We believe in the Constitution, they believe in centralized power."

Is absolutely idiotic!

Since. it's obvious that you are a moron, your opinion as the whether the Government has exceeded it's Constitutional powers is irrelevant.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The founders did not believe in a decentralized government.

 

[Divine Wind]

The founders did not believe in a decentralized government.

Correct, but they certainly believed in semi-autonomous States with a small, loose Federal government.